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Office Depot is now taking orders for the m505 on its webstore and promising delivery within 3 days. However, the site's m505 page doesn't inspire confidence, as it is just a product name and a price.
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Just bought 2 M505 and got 2 16 Meg SD chip free!!!
dteky
RE: Order from Office Depot
RE: Order from Office Depot
They also will pick up and return the unit for free if you want to return it, must be done within 7 days!
Folks, those of you that have it (east coast OD's have them, thanks Palm...you're preorder customers, wait and love you, NOT)
those that have it...please keep pics and first impressions coming and THANKS!
I have an m505!
Just got it at the Office Depot in Annapolis/Parole, Maryland. They got in 4 today, bought one for me and one for the wife.
Yes, that leaves 2 left.
It's cool! Screen looks fine...but is better with backlight on...of course, haven't even charged the thing fully yet!
Haven't played much with it yet...very small...
Anyway, they're out there...
Good luck!
Randy Hash
I AM NOT KIDDING BTW.
RE: I have an m505!
-RobZombie
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RE: I have an m505!
-Eric
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RE: I have an m505!
I'm not sure how to prove to you guys that I have one...I hate to do this, but call the office depot if you want...410 573-0020...but at this point, you should probably ask if they HAD them, not if they HAVE them....
Remember, I am the guy who pointed out the community first that office depot had m500s a week or so ago (may have been at Palmstation)....I do my homework, I am diligent about finding out who has what when....I have called every morning to office depot, specifically to their receiving manager...and now i have one.
Randy
RE: I have an m505!
-RobZombie
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Mike H
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RE: I have an m505!
BTW, lying?
I think I'm taking all of this abuse pretty well, don't you? I mean, considering that I'm not really bragging about having one, I'm just letting everyone know that they are out there...
RE: I have an m505!
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Randy, no bashing here. Thanks for the info!
RE: I have an m505!
Personally I would be happy if I found out my order shipped from Office Depot's website for arrival on Monday the 7th, and I could kick back for the weekend watching the slew of amatuer reviews and digital camera picks of the new m505 roll in.
RE: I have an m505!
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Palm Infocenter
RE: I have an m505!
It's just that no less than half a dozen other posts have been fakes in the past, so, if you're the first one to get one in the U.S., you will get a lot of attention.
By the way, is it metal in the front and back or just the front like the m500?
RE: I have an m505!
THANKS RANDY FOR THE EARLY POST TODAY. IT GOT ME MINE.
RE: I have an m505!
When it's all charged, post a quick review! esp curious about the screen and comparison with Vx. pics? I sure hope other places get them soon!
RE: I have an m505!
NY NY ...
30th and 2nd Ave. They only had 4 now there are 3 and I heard someone calling in to get one while I was there...
Tearing the plastic off the box right now...
RE: I have an m505!
RE: I have an m505! True
their shipment yesterday for a promotion, but expect shipment this week for promotion next week.
Promotion
1. Buy the 505 from office depot and receive a free travel card
2. Sign up for 3 months of AOL with 505 also receive a free game card
RE: I have an m505!
This is so cool. Its like Windows 95 or something :)
This thing will crush Clie. Mark my words. Everyone and their mother will have to have one. The Clie is just too bulky. Vive la Palm.
I just baught mine at OD in Oregon
Enjoy!
Mirza
RE: I have an m505!
RE: I have an m505!
-ryan
p.s. I will have photos on palmpilot classifieds when i get a chance...madproductions.homestead.com
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RE: I have an m505!
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Good luck to everyone else.
btw, I was reading the manual; I hadn't noticed previously that 4.0 OS support timezones and daylight savings time... about time. And no I haven't looked at the screen yet. I fouled up a Vx once by not fully charging it, I'm not going to repeat the mistake, just in case.
m505 vs. IIIc?
RE: I have an m505!
OfficeDepot has more than a price now ...
-Eric
Office Depot Website
1) The item is a "3 Day Delivery" item as it is coming from the "manufacturer." (Huh? Weird...)
2) Currently I am supposed to have the item 5/7 (3 weekdays from today when I ordered it) but someone who ordered it yesterday is supposed to get it 5/5 or so another post says.
My biggest concern is these "instock" website orders will never really arrive on time (I can easily wait till Monday) but this week brick and mortar Office Depots will get the units, I will be waiting for mine... and they will sell out.
Geez!!! I hope when I call tommorow there is a way I check if it shipped, or check my credit card to see if it was charged.
RE: Office Depot Website
Just called my local OD office and the guy in Electronics didn't know when they would have them in.
RE: Office Depot Website
Hard Case
Office Depot
Depot in Manhattan. Neither have received their m505 allotments.
-Al
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RE: Office Depot
RE: Office Depot
this afternoon and try and round up a manager to give me better info.
-Al
RE: Office Depot
I am not registered but have been an avid reader several times a day here. Boy did it pay off!
RE: Office Depot
I have called all the places in Philly. Nobody has it. Aaaagh!
-Al (yes, I have nothing better to do)
RE: Office Depot
Harry
RE: Office Depot
I'm off for the 2 hour round trip to collect it!
RE: Office Depot
m505 in Chicago: Nope
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
Dean
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
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RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
Dean
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
Going to pick one up on the 12th, my bday. Can't wait to load intelligolf and hitting the lynx.
RE: m505 in Atanta: YES
m505 Pictures: Box, Contents, Receipt
http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/img_m505_user_box.jpg
http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/img_m505_user_contents.jpg
http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/img_m505_user_receipt.jpg
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RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
RE: m505 in Atlanta
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
scouter075@mindspring.com
RE: m505 in Chicago: Hyde park
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
RE: m505 in Chicago: YES!!!
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
The date was always May 10th....
Dave
RE: The date was always May 10th....
RE: The date was always May 10th....
RE: The date was always May 10th....
Take a deep breath, relax...
Dave is legit and the information that he posts is always very informative. Don't bash the guy just because he is commenting on the release date from a his unique viewpoint.
RE: The date was always May 10th....
Yes we are very grateful to all of our customers, I don't know why you think we aren't...
While a good number of m505's will be trickling into the channel this week (I'm not gonna squeal :-) ), the 10th is the day when you should see good availability of the product in all retail outlets.
That came from left field....
Dave
RE: The date was always May 10th....
Thanks for any input...Mike H.
RE: The date was always May 10th....
The screen is what is was intended to be - extremely low power and thin. Is it as bright as the iPaq - no way, but the batteries really do run for 3 to 4 weeks and it's about the same size as a Vx.
As far as I know, there's no way to turn up the brightness. You could always use a hack to have the sidelights on, I guess - if it's too dark for you.
Outdoors, it is great.
Dave
RE: The date was always May 10th....
RE: The date was always May 10th....
If you leave the sidelights on all the time, in your opinion, how long will the battery last? Rough estimate would be fine (a week at the most?).
Thank you
Edd
RE: The date was always May 10th....
Dave
M505 Screen....
Sorry folks, buy IMHO, the screen isn't what I expected. I've used a Visor Deluxe for about a year.
Even with the backlight on, the colors appear washed out. Look nothing like what appears on the box. Perhaps just my unit, perhaps just my perception.
But...please judge for yourself. I'm trading this guy back for the m500.
RE: The date was always May 10th....
SCREEN: With the backlight, it is PERFECT. We need a HACK!
With EasyView program from PalmGear, Screen is PERFECT!!!!!!
Dave - That is NOT the point!!!
>Not sure yet, but if you drop it in the cradle
>overnight, it shouldn't be an issue, right? I'm
>looking int this now.
WRONG!!!
If you argue like this, what is the point of telling customers something about a 3 to 4 week battery life ? That makes absolutely NO sense.
Battery life is important for people who are NOT around a cradle everyday. If people are around cradles everyday, battery life has NO significance in my opinion, except if the battery life is less than an hour....
I thought the idea for the Palm was to have a "handheld, to be carried everywhere" [your website] as well as "handheld devices to provide access to and management of corporate information for mobile professionals".
Mobile is the operative word. Mobile for most people means leaving the office and leaving the cradle behind, not merely mobile movement to a meeting room and back to the desk.
Another beatiful quote from your site:
"Feature overload diminishes battery life, adds additional costs, and compromises the wearability and usability of handhelds. Our philosophy is simple. Start with the basics, make them affordable, and let customers add functionality as they see fit."
So now I want to use a feature (sidelight) that according to your design philosophy is not an overloaded feature that dimishes battery life, why do i have to put the palm back into the cradle overnight...?
I am sorry, I appreciate your input, and until a few weeks ago, I was a die-hard "no-way Handspring, Sony, Handera" Palm fan. Times surely have changed extremely rapidly for me over the last few days.
ex-Palm/new-Handera-user
Well, well?!
It now turns out that Sony has allowed the American version of their color CLIE the ability to play unconverted and unecrypted native MP3 files. With the color hi-res screen, I am back in a buying dilemma.
m505 or color CLIE?
Sheesh. (Sorry if this was slightly OT!)
RE: Well, well?!
I think I buy the 505 for the slim (Vx) design and SD Slot.. the Clie only got (expensive) MemoryCard for expansion.. The SD slot of the 505 offers a lot more..
It is difficult, but I think I buy the palm 505..
But I think I have to wait a little longer :(
Netherlands / Europe..
>>m505 or color CLIE?
RE: Well, well?!
I think i can hold out another few months on my trusted IIIx...
HandEra 330 delivery?
RE: HandEra 330 delivery?
RE: HandEra 330 delivery?
I'd go with the 330 myself.
RE: HandEra 330 delivery?
Maniacal Bicycle Messengers
My on-line Staples order is to be delivered by "Staples courier." I take that to mean that a Staples employee will get on a bike and deliver my m505 to me. So I'm guessing my on-line order will be treated pretty much like a bricks-and-mortar order.
I live in New York, and my delivery address is Midtown, ground zero for Staples deliveries, so they may not do it the same way everywhere.
Best Buy - Los Angeles
Does anyone know if the BEst Buy stores have gotten any yet? Particularly in the Ventura or L.A. County Areas? Thanks.
RE: Best Buy - Los Angeles
RE: Best Buy - Los Angeles
m505 Ship Date
RE: FranklinCovey Delays
Ever since the IIIxe's and IIIc's came out I have found this to be true, FC has always been a week behind every other channel. The m100's came out about 5 days after the public release, but that was the best scenario I've seen for them.
Landware stylus in Palm m505
Harry
Got it !
It is charging right now. But to be honest guys I'm not to pleased with the screen. With the backlight turned on it is okay. But it is dark with the backlight off. I also have a IIIc and it is much brighter.
RE: Got it !
449.00, I have not opened it yet. The picture on the box did not impress me, and the view of the photo suite images on the box did not impress me either.
Sony screen on picture looks very impressive, however its not all about the screen.
If you notice, palm is shipping with more software, and accordign to them you can also play mp3s from multimedia cards (for those of you interested).
Anyway, I will play with this device now and post my opinions at 4:00pm eastern time
Until then
Later
RE: Got it !
Are the icons and text just as visible.
Thanks for any feedback on this.
RE: Got it !
RE: Got it !
Where does it say that? I have only read on Palm's web site that you can STORE mp3 files on a card. Nothing abut playing them on the m50x.
Maryland
Well, they had one. They weren't on display (and then I was really getting pissed off), I had to ask the person at the customer service desk. As they went to get it, I was thinking "I bet they are confused and are going to bring me an m500."
I can't tell you how happy I was to see 505 on the box.
Anyhow, the person on the desk told me that someone came earlier this morning and got 2. And the one I was getting was the LAST ONE.
So, instead of flaming you, I have to say thank you for leaving me one!
And to everyone else - don't call - just go to the store and ask for "the new Palm Pilot - the 505" and if they have it, they will produce it.
My opinion
first version of a Sony Brand Palm OS type. This is the one I have. I am only emphasisng
in atributes I think sony has advantage over (in my opinion) or just to evaluate diferences.
When I do not mention a comparison its because I do not thingkthere is an impact in
features or I do not care about the differences
CASING
whether is metal or plastic, I cannot really tell. The front and back looks like metal, the
middle of it, like plastic.
Sony S300 its metal on the sides and back, plastic on the font.
STYLUS
Thick and ugly, almost had to step on the thing to take it out. ( It took me 10 minutes and
a penny to pull it out of the rail).
When put back, does not go all the way in and stays sort of too loose, bound to get lost.
Sony S300 stylus goes in and out smoothly and makes a clicking sound to let you know that is
secure.
front flip cover??? Its hiddeous, I do not know why hey boter to put it in the box. I, it
doesn't look or feel right
SCREEN
Dark. with the back light looks ok, not impressive. The m500 screen is clearer even in
black and white. The picture on the box is displayed with the light on
No contrast adjustment button. Bad, bad, so your screen is alway going to be dark, unless
you alway use the back light or are standing in the sun (bright iluminated place). On the
sun you can actually see the screen, but its not more diffent than a well iluminated place
Acording to the Palm tech representative when used with the back light your batery life
won't be impacted too much ( charge every 3 weeks instead of every month ) We will see
that!
If you do not have the back (lime light on) you won't be able to tell if its in color or
not. (barely)
If you are under a lamp, the screen is still dark even with the back light. I you go to a
darker place or a regular iluminated place, then the backlight gives it an OK view of your
screen.
When I put my S300 on a regular lit room, the m505 looks slightly better but not by much.
When I turn on the backlight on both units, m505 is significally better.
CRADDLE
Heavy. This might be a good thing. rustick! And pulling the thing off it is like lifting
weights and it feels like its going to break. I called TEch support on this. This is the
way to pull it out.
1. move the device forwade (I would say 60 degree angle)
2. pull straight up. It comes out easy.
While taking it to the 60 degree angle, it sounds like you are actually going to break.
Palm says its intentional, and it won't break. "With wear and tear it should come out
easier with time".
Another way to know when to pull out, is to wait for that "beep" while moving the device
forward, when you do, pull in upward direction, it will come out easy.
SUPPORT
palm does not have an 800 number for US continental technical support. it does for Puerto
Rico technical support.??? (what is that all about?) Luckily I speak spanish, but we lost
communications (or he hanged up on me) and I decided to call Palm number (which is not an
800 number) according to them, they will have one within 30 days (just a rumor). This is
the catch
After 30 days of having your device, you have to pay by incident on your call. In other
words if you call tech support after 30 days of having your device, they will charge you a
fee for trying to fix it????? (Boy are they getting smarter???? I guess they really want to
loose the BUSINESS!!!!)
SOFTWARE
Contains additional Note pad, where you can scribble notes.
It seems you will be able to dial out from the palm I assume with a modem or phone.
Date book has no changes in its fields, that I've noticed so far.
Sony S300 has the ability to put a picture along with contact information. I think this is
neet, but not a necesity. I did not carry a picture in my palm of my contacts, but now that
I do have a color device, I think I want that feature incorporated!!!
I had asked palm about this feature in the past and the answer was yes it includes it. WELL,
IT DOESN'T.
no changes for the calculator, except the buttons, from circles to square
Botton line: It seems like this equipment is a Vx with color (when you turn the backlitght
on)
SYNCKING WITH YOUR OLD INFO.
a snap. I had already installed the Palm desktop 4 on my device. Had not problem.
Applications that supported color switched to color automatically.
**************** MY ADVISE TO YOU *************************
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT,... Wait so you can check out the color on the Sony N710 and compare it to
the M505 when they are on display, and see if its worth your money. If the screen is the
only important thing to you.
Also check on accessories, if you are going to spend the money on them. Sony is so much
more expensive.
In my case I have so much SONY JUNK that I am looking at other brands, sometimes propretiary
is not a good thing.
Reason why MAC is not what we have every household today!!!
Color Vs B&W. Honest opinion, if color is going to be defined by the Palm m505 displays you
are better off with B&W, unless you use the backlight, that that case, it will depend on the
user.
Color is nicer, 65million to 254? if you have better resulution tan 160X160 maybe, since I
have not seen the 320 resolution I cannot say, but I have seen the IIIc and that is
defenitly brighter than the m505.
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For now this is all I am adding. On a needed basis I will post more comments is I need to
PS why would anyone like to store mp3 files if they cannot play it?
GOT IT @ OD IN HOUSTON!!!!
Forget what you've read, you can only judge the M505 when you have it in your hands. Having said that, this is one sweet unit. I drove 70mph in a 45 zone just to get home and even at that i kept staring at the box on the freeway just to convince myself i really had one unit. btw i couldn't wait to get home to thank the folks that posted the message about getting theirs on this board. Palminfocenter RULES BABY!!!
Now on to the 505. as i write this, my darling (thats right) sits in her cradle happily lapping up volts of electricity. Its a nice unit. For those who have not seen it, wait and test one out for yourself b4 you pass judgment.
Indoors, in low light, the screen sucks, yep i said it, it sucks, I guess the only way to enjoy the screen is to have the side light come on probably all the time. Having said that, the screen is beautiful with the light on. Having used a Vx for two years this a wonderful departure from the dull background. It feels great in the hands as well. The rail on the left side of the unit is too small except for the flap cover.
I guess everything else you can read from the palm website. Thats my little take on my 6 mins of use.
P/s it had about 25% charge out the box.
Being a student, i guess i have mega mega bragging rights to be one of the first to own this in school!!
To those that ordered from Palm, i say cancell your orders cos those a**holes really did you bad. I almost ordered one as well but decided to wait.
To those that haven't got it yet, i'm sorry, i was in the same dilemma. Hoping, lusting (yep), drooling, but take heart, when you do get yours you'll MOST DEFINITELY LOVE IT!!
AL
TO KEEP BACKLIGHT ON:
RE: Got it !
RE: Keep the Light On: EasyView 1.0
Looks like keeping the backlight on will turn out to be a no-brainer. Not only will GlowHack work apparently, but for those of us who don't like HackMaster hacks for whatever reason, you can also use EasyView 1.0. It's also available at PalmGear.
Still waiting for my M505 in Ithaca, NY... 8-)
whats the best setting for easyview for all-the-time light?
anyone know anything about west coast?
like "i don't know, don't have a sku..." how come we have the sku's for both stores and the stores don't?
what a drag...
waiting for word.
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
Nothing at OD in Los Angeles right now. I guess everyone went on strike. :(
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
Got mine in Portland, OR this morning
Mirza
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
Just a friendly tip.
Viva la Palm M505!!!
The SkyTraveler
RE: Anyone know about Minnesota?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: West Coast 505 Delivery
Any suggestions when I should take action on my quest for the 505? Opening? Afternoon? Close?
Also, I have a pre-order at Staples... not sure when the heck they will kick in. Wondering if that release date of May 8th is true and/or if it will be earlier now that Office Depots are selling them.
Any suggestions or help would be great.
Party On!
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
California, Here they come.....
RE: Westcoast Arrivals
But now I'm pissed... Because I have to order a serial Cradle, due to I don't have a frappin USB.
Happy with the screen although I'll know more when I SYNC
Not Frustrated Anymore
RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
M505-back metal or plasitc?
Multi-Voltage Charger?
RE: M505-back metal or plasitc?
I got one too. Thank you you guys for telling me!
Enjoy!!
RE: I got one too. Thank you you guys for telling me!
RE: I got one too. Thank you you guys for telling me!
M505 Screen protector
RE: M505 Screen protector
RE: M505 Screen protector
RE: M505 Screen protector
screen protectors
Cut out a rectangle of overhead transparency so it is .2-.3 inches larger on all sides. slip it in (sort of hard, but you hardly ever have to replace it-only when you get it really mocked up & it looks like crap) and use. it doesn't break any seals or anything, and your warenty isn't void. I've used this on all of my models since my old palm pro (god, I loved that baby!) and it's been great so far)
RE: M505 Screen protector
M505 Is available
m505 Charging in Portland, OR
Good luck to everyone else in their hunting. This is the third time that either PalmStation or PalmInfocenter has aided me in snagging a new Palm the first day they became available.
RE: m505 Charging in Portland, OR
RE: m505 Charging in Portland, OR
Works like a charm...
Ahab
M505 in SF?
Just picked up my M505 from Office Deopt in Kingston, NY
RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
RCS Computer Experience
575 Madison Ave
New York, NY 10016
Phone: (212)949-6935
RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
What is RCS charging for the 505?
RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
Got mine at RCS!!!!! NYorkers they got loads!!!!!!!!!!!
RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
I just got off the phone with RCS also, got mine comming over night - Friday Delivery. Thank you for posting this contact here for this purchase. Now when I get it tomarrow I'll be sitting on the phone all day canceling my wait lists every where else - Including Palms.
I think I'll be up all night.
Scott
ScottG
I get no respect ...
Looks like the best plan was to wait and then waltz into Office Depot and wait for some dope to dig through today's heap of boxes and pull one out for you.
Further proof that the world revolves around me and it is revolving in the wrong direction.
RE: I get no respect ...
RE: I get no respect ...
I got mines this morning, paid less too. Called palm center, cancelled my order. and moved on. No questions asked!!!
GOT MINE
p.s. the color screen is nice! fits my needs!
RE: GOT MINE
Will Palm V Cases fit.
RE: Will Palm V Cases fit.
RE: Will Palm V Cases fit.
i'm using the Coach Palm V case and the m505 fits great.
RE: Will Palm V Cases fit.
using for my Palm V and I'm hoping that it'll work with the m505.
re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software
But this software appears to require a specific driver for your phone. Of course, the CD only comes with drivers for three phone! The people at both Palm and Motorola were not very helpful.
Two questions:
1) Has anyone out there made this work and/or have this driver for me?
2) Does anybody know if this is this the same software as on the MIK CD, since it explicitly support my L7089. Perhaps someone could send me just the driver file from that CD? (Probably something like Motorola_L7089.PRC).
Chad Conrad
ceconrad(remove this part)@usa.net
RE: re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software
Dave
RE: re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software
RE: re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software
Thanks for the info. It didn't really occur to me that they had changed the architecture, though it makes sense. I just wish there were more driver available at the start, I guess.
So I guess this means that unless someone can point me in the direction of an L7089 driver, I'll have to register one of the shareware SMS applications that I've seen out there, and not have integrated phone support in my OS yet.
Chad
OfficeMax and m505
RE: Is the SERIAL CRADLE for sale too??? Thanks.
USB To Serial Adapter will NOT work. We must wait for
Got m505, Review Coming Soon
http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/img_m505_ed_1.jpg
p.s. Picture has another lovely view of my ugly wallpaper.
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RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
Bander
RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
Side by side shots of the same app, datebook for example, would be great.
RE: Got m505, First Impressions
The screen is dim and the black grid is there. I'm going to run the sidelight most of the time. Looks good with the sidelight on.
It feels solid. I don't much like the flip cover; it adds too much to the depth. I can't use the V series hardcase I have. My SLIMpoint stylus works better than the original.
OK, that will have to do for a while. Gotta go write the review.
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RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
First ever...BrightHand Editors Choice Award
RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
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kHiTeDev
Review Available Now
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1867
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Free SD Cards?
RE: Free SD Cards?
RE: Free SD Cards?
RE: Free SD Cards?
RE: Free SD Cards?
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kHiTeDev
Minneapolis OD has it in stock!
I have the m505--Dallas, TX
The screen: it's not that bad, really. Had I thought it was going to be like the iiic, then I would be disappointed. But I thought it was going to totally SUCK, and it does not--with the backlight turned on. Without the backlight it's comparable to the ipaq in sunlight without its backlight.
I feel the screen overall is better than the prism simply because the black grid isn't very noticeable. That is worth alot to me. But the screen is nowhere near as bright, but it's good enough if you ask me.
Email with more questions. I have pics to prove I have it, but by now there are so many people claiming they have it I don't think I'll be labeled a false prophet.
It's not a great screen, but you can live with it.
RE: I have the m505--Dallas, TX
I have an S300, wondering if I could just save the money!!
None in Rockville, MD so far
No m505's at the Office Despot in Rockville (on the Pike) or Gaithersburg (Shady Grove Rd). All things considered, I will probably call again before I leave work...
The Staples on Rockville Pike is clueless (that's where I put in one of my pre-orders -- the other is with Outpost.com). The salesguy said, "End of May, the official release is May 26," and refused to believe me when I told him the pre-order sign had promised they would be in by May 8th. If OD gets them in first around here, I'll forego my free game card just to not have to deal with the Staples confusion.
Have they shown up at _any_ Staples or other retail outlets, or is it just Office Despot so far?
Bander
RE: None in Rockville, MD so far
We don't have any Office Depots within an hour's drive from Columbus. AARGH!
RE: None in Rockville, MD so far
RE: Columbus, OH so far
RE: Columbus, OH
I didn't check any CompUSAs, because they told me a few days ago that they get things about a month after they come out.
I decided I'd just order from OfficeDepot.com and see how it turns out... I called to confirm my order and they said it would be shipping from a warehouse in Hamilton (?), and delivered tomorrow (5/3). I asked them to double-check, and they came back and said that they weren't sure their Web site was accurate, because this was a "low-stock" item... when I asked exactly what that meant, she said it meant that they had five.
Wish me luck... :-)
RE: Columbus, OH update
If you haven't ordered from OfficeDepot.com yet, you might want to... I called again and was told that mine was definitely going to be delivered tomorrow, and they said they have 4 in stock (of which I have one). If you order this late, it might not arrive until Friday, though.
Office Depot in New England
RE: Office Depot in New England
RE: Office Depot in New England
I have the m505--Dallas, TX
The screen: it's not that bad, really. Had I thought it was going to be like the iiic, then I would be disappointed. But I thought it was going to totally SUCK, and it does not--with the backlight turned on. Without the backlight it's comparable to the ipaq in sunlight without its backlight.
I feel the screen overall is better than the prism simply because the black grid isn't very noticeable. That is worth alot to me. But the screen is nowhere near as bright, but it's good enough if you ask me.
Email with more questions. I have pics to prove I have it, but by now there are so many people claiming they have it I don't think I'll be labeled a false prophet.
It's not a great screen, but you can live with it.
OD in Pittsburgh, PA has 'em
Palm Customer Service
"We have no idea when the units will be shipping from Palm. Office Depot does not have m505s, only m500s. You must be mistaken."
Guess so... my eyes aften read the number 5 as the number 0, and "color" as "black and white LCD."
Was there ANY point to preordering? It seems to be the most expensive, slowest way to get them.
RE: Palm Customer Service
RE: Palm Customer Service
RE: Palm Customer Service
I found another store with them
RE: I found another store with them
RE: I found another store with them
RE: I found another store with them
RE: I found another store with them
Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
So I hurried out some calls to local Office Depots (NYC), and found noofin'!! (All had them, all sold out.)
It's a shutout. I'm going to go play with my abacus for three more weeks.
RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
I'll probably end up canceling my Staples.com order and going to Office Depot when they get them again. (Assuming they still give out something free.)
RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
"Your Palm M505 is scheduled to arrive no later than 5/7/2001."
do you have any details on who said it won't be shipping until the 22nd? (did you have a pre-order
in? Maybe it's the 22nd for people who didn't pre
order?)
RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
RE: Southern California
The first 500 appeared in my area and now while 505's are showing up all over there are none around here. Is it me or do I just have to go in and ask; rather then call on the phone.
Really Frustrated
RE: RE: Southern California
RE: Southern California
Something is up, and Staples is now saying May 22.
Still Really Frustrated
RE: RE: Southern California
I live in the San Diego area, and called Office Depot (4), Staples, Best Buy, and Circuit City, a complete strike out at this time.
I have got to say, it's pretty bad form for Palm to ignore the pre orders. And I placed my order 3/18.
It's like this, I want it now! give it up!
Joe Gomolski
RE: RE: Southern California
I've got one for sale- M505
I bought it at office depot, its still wrapped. For verification i can give you my phone number and we can talk - I will also scan my receipt and take a photo of the unit to verify.
No flames please, if you don't want it, don't email me.
Thank you- FYI I bought the last of 5 at office depot in Englewood, CO
nhl@dim.com is my address.
RE: I've got one for sale- M505
RE: I've got one for sale- M505
Unless you went to a different one. I got mine at Arap and I-25 about 60 minutes ago.
RE: I've got one for sale- M505
RE: I've got one for sale- M505
Personally I'll wait the extra 2 weeks. I'm poor and can't spring for the xtra $.
RE: I've got one for sale- M505
My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
What is this unit? It is a Palm V with useable color. Period. That is the selling point and it works. Putting this unit next to my IIIc right makes the IIIc look like a towering monster, I am so glad I finally have a Palm V (emmm.. m505) back (gave my V to my wife and never stopped regreting it.)
How about the screen? Wow, it is *different*. In the car in the parking lot of Office Depot (yep, I had to... it had 25% battery power by the way.) I turned it on and I thought the display was very good (cloudy day). It had a greyish background but readibility was very good and color was clearly visible, forget that *you can't see color* BS because it just isn't true.
When I got home I locked myself in the bathroom for darkness (yep, I am a complete and total nerd) and turned the backlight on and wham up comes the milky white type of backlight you see on the iPAQ, and the screen was *beautiful* and *colorful* but not in the blinding way of the IIIc.
Now what about in between, a sorta dark room (no overhead lighting) in my house like the living room on a cloudy day with the windows open and the lights off. The m505 was weakest here. My wifes Palm V was a little more clear in readibility unless you tilted the m505 to try to capture more light. If I turned the backlight on it made it more readible but was hard to see the backlight was on. Is it good... yes... but not fantastic.
In general about the screen: In office lighting it will equal a Palm V in readibilty, show USEABLE color (not muddy but not IIIc), outdoors it is very good, in pure darkness it is good, and in dim lighting needs some twisting and the backlight but is *ok*. Is it better than the IIIc... HELL YES, HELL YES, HELL YES. It is managable in ALL lighting, shows color in all lighting, AND DAMN IT IS SO SO SO SO much smaller.
The case is great, ALL metal front AND back, the buttons looks SO much better than the m500 (which got the off color black buttons.) and the sides are nicely rounded. The built in calculator is now in color. The backlighting of the grafitti area (which I have never seen anyone talk about) works GREAT with the white markings on the area being transparent and lit from behind so it seems the lines light up from BELOW (I thought until I had the unit that the light would wash over the grafitti area but this is MUCH better.)
I will post more later... in summary THE BEST PALM EVER with a DIFFERENT but still GREAT color screen.
RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
Wow, just beamed over AOL (wanted to see what it would like in color and it really messes up in LauncherIII). Made it's on folder for it... The color did look good on the welcome screen. OK, just went in and downloaded the latest ver of LauncherIII, all better. I'll kick myself later.... (I can already hear everyone!) ;)
So... for the most part it looks pretty good, love the color and can't wait for it to be fully charged... I'm psyched that... Wait, it doesn't fit! The stylus for the palm M505 is about 1/8 of an inch shorter than the one I had for the palmV. What gives??? I tried to stick my stylus, a Pilot Pentopia Chameleon V, and it didn't fit, damn. Well, that's two things I'm ticked about, the other was the hardcase not fitting... I guess that's another thing that goes to my wife when I pass on the palmV....
More to come....
Free 16 MB card from Office Depot?
One M505 for sale
Thanks;
Mark
RE: One M505 for sale
RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
To those of you with 505s now, can you answer me simply this: In normal, indoor lighting, will the 505 still be as legible as my Vx was? (I don't care if the colours aren't brilliant; I'm just asking about basic contrast on text.)
RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
I love the form factor and the quality of build, but IMHO the screen could be brighter.
I think you should wait to see a M505 before rushing to trade in your M500.
m505 Screen not dark anymore !
Works great! I highly recommend.
RE: m505 Screen not dark anymore !
RE: m505 Screen not dark anymore !
Office Depot web site now says "Unavailable"
No Office Depot stores in Southern California (or from reading the comments, Northern CA) have recieved the 505 yet, although M500's seem to be readily available.
My guess is that they released them to everywhere EXCEPT California today; CA will probably show up tomorrow. :-( The price we pay for Sunshine, I guess.
Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
Happy Hunting,
Eric from Indiana
RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
You are correct. I called and they have four and are hlding one for me. I'll be there soon.
Thanks,
George
RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
-jeremy
RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
So I looked on here again and saw even more of you guys finding them. So at 4:45 I called OD again and talked to someone
who said yes They have them. I asked again "505 not the 500" Oh your right we only have the 500. Then out of the blue some guy yelled over
and said he found 4 of them on the cart. I asked can I come right over and get it. Well by 5:20 I had it in my hands, it's my first and this
Web page has been such a great help. The 505 looks great! So there my be 2 left at the Rochester OD on Jefferson Rd. I could not get the Memory
Card, if anyone knows if that is a official deal please let me know. They said for the 500 only, I picked up the game card for kicks and it works great.
BLT from Dansville
RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
RCS 56th and Madison has 2 left
2 more sitting there. I have a nice FedEx package heading my way. Should be in my
hands tomorrow morning.
FWIW, the Office Depot in Plymouth Meeting, PA (Phila area) has no idea when they're
coming in. They gave me a blank look when I went in and asked them. I called twice
today and went in as well.
-Al
If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
i think i'll take the m505 thanks
RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
The Sony clie N710 weighs 5.6 oz
Not a huge difference in weight.
Plus the Clie screen demolishes the M505. I have seen them side by side.
You M505 zealots better hang on to that receipt...
RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
Good luck if you think it was only the first batch
that will be shipped on May 28th and that the rest
will ship soon after - it may be a very long wait...
from the sonystyle.com site when you click on "buy":
"Product Availability: Backordered. Shipping date not available. Please select a different item or submit your order for this item and we will notify you via email upon shipment. You may cancel this order at any time prior to shipment."
Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505
Reserved mine and picked it up just now.
It is currently on the charger...
Screen is a little duller than I'd have hoped, but with the front light on it's sweet!
I'm still 'evaluating'.
I don't see any 'alarm manager' though...and can't figure how to get the LED to blink or the thing to vibrate. Maybe it has to be off the cradle for that.
We will see.
Adam
RE: Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505
RE: Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505
I took a look at an m500 at a CompUSA, and it was an option in the General tab of the Preferences app.
RE: Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505
RE: Alarm Manager: Where is it?
Still waiting for the M505 to appear in Ithaca, NY! 8-)
Vibrating and LED alarms
sorry of the repeat if this has been answered already!
just got my m505 :)
Palm are still quoting 7-14 days & No M505's in the Bay Area
I also called around some Office Depots here in the Bay Area and there is nothing here yet expect m500's...no m505's.
Almost makes you want to buy an iPAQ....sorry...I'll wash my mouth out with Soap and Bill Gates.
RE: Palm are still quoting 7-14 days & No M505's in the Bay Area
Puzzled?
RE: M505 photos on TPUG
RE: M505 photos on TPUG
RE: M505 photos on TPUG
I ALSO HAVE AN M505
Desktop Upgrade Pain
I'm still glad to have my new toy. :)
Any one in AZ know any place available yet?
I p*ss of at Palm and cancel my preorder with them this morning. At least Staple give me a free game card.
RE: Any one in AZ know any place available yet?
RE: Any one in AZ know any place available yet?
Use the SKU!
Bander
p.s. Yay! Charging now, but it's beautiful!
Office Depot in Marietta, GA
Got one there this evening 5/2 -- guy said they have three more. 119 N. Cobb Pkwy, Marietta, GA
Just got my m505 at Office Depot with a free 16mb SD Card
Anyway, it's sitting on the charger right now but before I did I had to see the screen for myself. The color is a little washed out but with the backlight on it's pretty good. But don't take my word for it..see it for yourself.
btw, while i was at OD, I watched theguy punch in the sku and the m505's info popped up. OD's cost is for the palm is like 360 or something like that.
Hope you're all enjoying/will be enjoying your palm!
Thanks for the help Palm Infocenter!
$360? my company . . .
RE: Just got my m505 at Office Depot with a free 16mb SD Card
Staple Preorder
They verified they would ship them out on the 21st and I asked about why thy said the 10th on the preorder. Well to sum things up I canceled my preorder and they refunded my money.
Figure the way things are going I'm better off trying to snag one from the stores.
Any sighting in Canada ???
or ANYTHINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG
I am talking about the M-505... Not the 500.
RE: Any sighting in Canada ???
2 of the 3 Staples stores in London, Ont have them (in the back, not on display yet). Future shop is still saying mid May.
Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
to ease the hassle, i ordered from OD by phone, they said 3 day deliverly- promise...
might as well re-order my pre-order from palm, might get it faster here in palms backyard...(not)...
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
they said it's in stock and will ship w/in 3 days- you're looking at a tues. del. if you order now.
it's coming from the fremont csc warehouse.
try that, it seemed to work for me, i ordered yesterday,
and called back today- they said it in process should receive fri.(tommorrow) or mon. latest.
i must have faith...i must believe...
ps ask them to check which warehouse is closest to you and check stock before placing order.also mention sku#.
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
M505 IN SAN DIEGO, CA!!
Fresh off the truck! sweet!
The West was not forgotten (at least for not too long!)
Gonna charge it up and get on with my life finally!
Thanks for all the great posts!
this site rules!
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
customers can wait the longest...
have fun!!
wish the rest of us luck...
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
i hope you guys in nor cal get it soon!
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
They're out there. Good luck everyone!
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
Southern California Orange County
They are finally in Southern California.
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
Palm M505 in the West!
Viva la Palm M505!!!
The SkyTraveler
RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
Yea! My life is complete, and I can now die a happy man!
More Specific
Re: M505 IN SAN DIEGO, CA!!
Palm m505 in Toronto!
Sadly up here, we don't get the same free SD card deal you've been getting in the US. Just an entry form for "a chance to win a BMW Z3". Which kind of sucks, unless of course I win the Bimmer!
Chris
Travel Charger?
Got m505 in New Jersey, free 16 Mb SD did not fly...
RE: Got m505 in New Jersey, free 16 Mb SD did not fly...
in Totowa (973)256-8020
Like everyone else in this board helping the ODP during those hard times...
m505's in Boston yet?
thanks,
mike
RE: m505's in Boston yet?
I gave up waiting and ordered from RCSeshop.com.
Damn.. I would have left right now.
mike
RE: m505's in Boston yet?
Office Depot
They said they are in stock. So give them a call and hopefully you too can get a palm overnight.
RE: Office Depot
RE: Office Depot
(they said they couldn't ship overnight because it was coming from the manufacturer or something like that).
Free 16MB Expansion Card with M505 @ Office Depot
If you can find the coupons it's a savings of $50 + tax.
RE: Free 16MB Expansion Card with M505 @ Office Depot
RE: Free 16MB Expansion Card with M505 @ Office Depot
Nada at Staples Nor Cal
This is suspicious.
RE: Nada at Staples Nor Cal
RE: Nada at Staples Nor Cal
Which south bay OD?
BEST BUY??
Does ANYONE know of a best buy in L.A. area that has the M505 yet?? I can only buy from Best Buy (so I can trade my Prism in, I have the PSP)
HELP! Thanks.
M505 In Naperville
Good luck, George Kenney
505 IN LOS ANGELES!
Just picked up M505 at Office Depot on Figueroa and 20th St. That is just north of USC and south of Staples Center (ironic?). Could not get the free 16mb card out of them, but I was able to get the free game card because that is what Staples offered. They have 2 left. Pasadena store did not get any in so far today.
finally in SF Bay Area!!!
geary @ masonic
i got one,
they have 1 left out of 3 that came in...
RE: finally in SF Bay Area!!!
Nor Cal -- Eureka!
I think the gold miners had an easier time!
Got 1 in Vancouver, Canada
What is included in the Palm m505 box?
RE: What is included in the Palm m505 box?
RE: What is included in the Palm m505 box?
O.D.at Bailey's XRoads, VA has M505
What about CDW?
RE: What about CDW?
Just got a M505 (Defective?)
I just got the M505 and I tried using the IR port from the Palm III to beam things over to the M505 and It seems that if they are both flat on the desk pointing to each other they can't see each other but if I raise one on an angle it will beam.
Is this normal or defective?
SD Card usage and IIIc Comparison
Alarm on 505 is maybe 10-20% louder. 505 is not quite 3/4" shorter, and a little thinner, lighter too. The vibrating alarm is not super strong, nowhere near my StarTAC phone vibration. You might not feel it in a suit pocket, but you'd likely feel it if it was closer to your body in a pants pocket or shirt pocket if you dared.
On to the SD card. Beamed over a few apps from my IIIc. Tried "Froggy" game. Copied it onto expansion card then deleted app from main memory. Game worked fine, but would write its highscore/preferences database to main memory every time. Tried copying the db to expansion card, then deleting from main memory, and it would not remember the high scores or prefs I had set. Tried again, and set the expansion card "protection lock slider" to lock. Deleted db in main memory, and same situation, didn't remember any highscores or settings.
Not quite sure whats going on here.
The manual for the exp. card mentions setting up different directories for apps/dbs/pics etc when using a card reader/writer. Maybe this would make some difference. Its hard to say, as I don't have any SD card "aware" apps yet, or a reader/writer.
Card does not report correct memory usage. Reported 32k then 48k used with nothing else on card. Then with 166k FireViewer on there, reported 240kb used. Oh yeah, card only reports 14.0 Meg total when empty, not 16M. After deleting fireviewer, CardInfo now reports 64k used, with no apps whatsoever on card. This keeps getting higher and higher in 16k increments. Whats going on here? After reformatting the card, drops back down to 32k though.
Removing card turns unit back on, and makes it beep?
Anyone know what HypT-View, RootObj-View, LMCache-View are? They're listed in the handheld Info screen.
Got my m505 today in Atlanta, GA
My m505 unit is manufactured in the USA, its screen looks fine, no defect, and it is now charging: I just opened the box: simply beautiful.
Shipping date from Palm to Office Depot (mentioned on the package) was May 6, yesterday: they just arrived at Office Depot today.
I happily canceled my Palm store order :-)
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