Comments on: More Reports on Possible m505 Delivery Dates

Many Palm users are becoming increasingly frustrated and cynical as companies pass their promised delivery dates with no m505s in site. As one Palm enthusiast put it, "this whole 505 thing lies somewhere between 'sport' and 'obsession' ".

Office Depot is now taking orders for the m505 on its webstore and promising delivery within 3 days. However, the site's m505 page doesn't inspire confidence, as it is just a product name and a price.

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Order from Office Depot

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:50:28 AM #
I've ordered the 505 via Office Depot's website and will wait. When it gets here it gets here.

RE: Order from Office Depot
xynos @ 5/2/2001 10:54:23 AM #
The website is now saying that the item is currently unavailable :(

Just bought 2 M505 and got 2 16 Meg SD chip free!!!
dteky @ 5/2/2001 11:38:57 AM #
Damn! I could hardly believe it! I Just bought 2 M505 and got 2 16 Meg SD chip free!!! I live in a podunk town...so not too many people know too much about palms...anyways. Went out to Office Depote this morning and they had three in. I bought 2 of them. I asked the manager there if he was able to give me the free SD Card per adds out with Staples/Best Buy etc...He said that it really is only for the M500 but for me he will do. Sorry guys, I can't give you the store or location due to the fact that I promise I would keep the store location anonymous. Thumbs up for Office Depote!!!

dteky

RE: Order from Office Depot
xynos @ 5/2/2001 12:19:33 PM #
called OD in downtown Minneapolis and they don't have any m505 yet.. Anyone knows when it'll be arriving?

RE: Order from Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:04:31 PM #
Office Depot now reorts that they ahve 400 in stock and ready to ship! Ordered mine and they promise a three business day deliverly.
They also will pick up and return the unit for free if you want to return it, must be done within 7 days!
Folks, those of you that have it (east coast OD's have them, thanks Palm...you're preorder customers, wait and love you, NOT)

those that have it...please keep pics and first impressions coming and THANKS!

I have an m505!

rhash @ 5/2/2001 8:08:27 AM #
Woo Hoo!

Just got it at the Office Depot in Annapolis/Parole, Maryland. They got in 4 today, bought one for me and one for the wife.

Yes, that leaves 2 left.

It's cool! Screen looks fine...but is better with backlight on...of course, haven't even charged the thing fully yet!

Haven't played much with it yet...very small...

Anyway, they're out there...

Good luck!

Randy Hash

I AM NOT KIDDING BTW.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:21:25 AM #
How did you manage to buy it before 8 am? Doesn't Staples open at 9? I think this guy is a troll.

-RobZombie

RE: I have an m505!
rhash @ 5/2/2001 8:25:27 AM #
A troll! I don't know where you come from, but the Office Depot opens at 7am around these parts, mister.



RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:26:12 AM #
If he is a troll, he is the first troll to have a legit user account and leave his name. I hope it is true.

-Eric

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:27:10 AM #
Troll!

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:28:55 AM #
rhash...if u have it tell us what came in the box? How many CD's did u get w/ it?

RE: I have an m505!
rhash @ 5/2/2001 8:32:01 AM #
There are two CDs..one is Palm Desktop software, the other is mobile connectivity software, which says it contains web clipping for palm os, palm sms, multimail se v1.0, and documentation.

I'm not sure how to prove to you guys that I have one...I hate to do this, but call the office depot if you want...410 573-0020...but at this point, you should probably ask if they HAD them, not if they HAVE them....

Remember, I am the guy who pointed out the community first that office depot had m500s a week or so ago (may have been at Palmstation)....I do my homework, I am diligent about finding out who has what when....I have called every morning to office depot, specifically to their receiving manager...and now i have one.

Randy

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:36:43 AM #
Ok, I screwed up. He said Office Depot and I read Staples. And he's right, OD opens at 7. Sorry called you a troll so fast. I need more coffee.

-RobZombie

Annapolis store
alee @ 5/2/2001 8:38:55 AM #
The Annapolis, MD store is open from 7am-9pm M-F. This could
be legit.

-Al

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:48:11 AM #
I just called and they have 1 left in stock...this is legit.

Mike H

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:51:27 AM #
You know, you're supposed to charge the thing for several hours before you use it, don't you? Perhaps you didn't know. Perhaps you don't care. Perhaps you are lying.

RE: I have an m505!
rhash @ 5/2/2001 8:56:56 AM #
Yeah, I know I am supposed to be charging it...and I am...2 hours at first it says...but there was enough juice to turn it on...I mean, come on, are you going to not at least take a peek at the screen when you take it out of the box?

BTW, lying?

I think I'm taking all of this abuse pretty well, don't you? I mean, considering that I'm not really bragging about having one, I'm just letting everyone know that they are out there...


RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:58:59 AM #
I heard they come with a few minutes charge. Maybe this is for customers who want to make sure it works before buying. Maybe just part of the manufacturing process.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:59:46 AM #
I called my local OD and Staples and they have none in stock. OD said May 8th. I was put on hold while they checked for stock. I also don't see where the M505 is offered on the Office Depot web site. I would like to see a pick of the box and receipt of the person that swears they have one.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:02:19 AM #
You can use them in the cradle. It charges and runs the thing at the same time. I'm deep in that ugliest of emotions, envy.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:03:03 AM #
Palm does ship the units with a minimal charge and you can turn it on depending on how long the unit has been sitting on the shelf, in this case absolutely possible since the unit is fresh from the assembly line.

Randy, no bashing here. Thanks for the info!

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:06:25 AM #
My Palm V and Palm IIIc had a TINY charge in them out of the box, and you can use them in the cradle while they are charging. I heard you should fully charge them before trying to use them, but like many I take a "peek" of my new toy for a minute or two before it is fully charged. I checked many of the Office Depots in Chicago (10+) and none have the m505. I canceled my order with Palm, ordered via the "3 Day delivery" Office Depot Instock website offer. I have doubts on that. If they haven't shipped by tommorow or charged my card I will attempt, yet again to find one in Chicago. I think I am getting the vibe that between today and 48 hours from now many Office Depots and perhaps Staples (based on the rumored stock arriving in the warehouses) will finally have some limited quantites.

Personally I would be happy if I found out my order shipped from Office Depot's website for arrival on Monday the 7th, and I could kick back for the weekend watching the slew of amatuer reviews and digital camera picks of the new m505 roll in.

RE: I have an m505!
Ed @ 5/2/2001 9:07:24 AM #
Randy, you are being really patient about all the suspicion. Thanks for the info. Now would you mind boxing the m505 up and FedExing it to me so I can write a review? I promise I'll send it back as soon as I'm done. ; - )

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter
RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:10:31 AM #
OK, all bashing aside, it looks like people are really posting some useful info here. I mean, mostly the "they don't have them" posts. It will certainly save me all the useless daily trips I would otherwise have to make to my local brick and mortar retailer.

It's just that no less than half a dozen other posts have been fakes in the past, so, if you're the first one to get one in the U.S., you will get a lot of attention.

By the way, is it metal in the front and back or just the front like the m500?

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:26:59 AM #
I read Randy's post at 8.20 this morning, went onto the Office Depot web site to get the number and called the store. I said I heard you had 4 and now have 2. She said how did u know. I had her hold one for me to ship, as I am out of state. So I too have one, or will have one tomorrow am. I can't wait. I also ordered the case and the 16 meg card. I had to talk to the Manager to have it send Fed Ex, at my cost. But certainly worth it. I feel like a kid in the candy store.
THANKS RANDY FOR THE EARLY POST TODAY. IT GOT ME MINE.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:27:05 AM #
Thanks for the heads up Randy...

When it's all charged, post a quick review! esp curious about the screen and comparison with Vx. pics? I sure hope other places get them soon!



RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:59:05 AM #
I just snagged 2 at Ofiice Depot (Maryland). Thanks for the heads-up.

NY NY ...
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:20:38 AM #
Just picked mine up in NY at Office Depot.

30th and 2nd Ave. They only had 4 now there are 3 and I heard someone calling in to get one while I was there...

Tearing the plastic off the box right now...

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:49:25 AM #
Any other Marylanders get a 505? I just called the one in Hunt Valley and Catonsville and they say they are still expecting. There's an anon post about someone who got 2 from Maryland - where in MD?

RE: I have an m505! True
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:18:23 AM #
Called a couple of office deopts and found a helpful Manager in Houston. They were supposed to receive
their shipment yesterday for a promotion, but expect shipment this week for promotion next week.
Promotion
1. Buy the 505 from office depot and receive a free travel card
2. Sign up for 3 months of AOL with 505 also receive a free game card



Where in Maryland?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:40:39 AM #
Timonium.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:42:33 PM #
I just called Anapolis Office Depot per the number above and the lady on the phone was soooo nice. She said she had one left and could I get in there quickly. I live in Georgia, so no, I can't. She said they are expecting another shipment tomorrow and she would place one on hold if I wanted.

This is so cool. Its like Windows 95 or something :)

This thing will crush Clie. Mark my words. Everyone and their mother will have to have one. The Clie is just too bulky. Vive la Palm.

I just baught mine at OD in Oregon
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:03:38 PM #
I just picked up my m505 at the Office depot located in Tigard, OR. It was a sweet experience, since there is no sales tax here in Oregan and I am on a business trip from California. When I called them this morning, first they told me they didn't have any. Then I said to him that someone I know in the eastcoast bought one, then the salesperson went to check. He told me afterwards that they had 4 or 5 in this morning, of which one they have already sold. When I went to get mine, he told me that they still have 2 or 3 units left in the store. Their phone number is (503) 639-3880. Hope this will help.

Enjoy!

Mirza

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:00:42 PM #
Just got one from Clayton OD, St. Louis. Not that impressed with the screen. It is OK with the back light but deff. dark compared to IIIc.

RE: I have an m505!
mad212 @ 5/2/2001 2:15:33 PM #
Hey i just wanna thank the org. poster. Because of him I got mine today with a free sd card!! Thanks alot man!!!

-ryan


p.s. I will have photos on palmpilot classifieds when i get a chance...madproductions.homestead.com

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:54:25 PM #
I bought mine today in Atlanta, Georgia at the office depot on Pleasant Hill Road. I called this morning and the truck had just pulled in and the man said they had four. He held one for me and when I got there the other 3 were gone, but I got mine. Nice unit. The screen is darker than the IIIc and does look better with the backlight on. It is a shame that you cannot adjust the screen. I will definitely keep this one, but would of liked to have seen a little brighter screen.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:08:05 PM #
anyone know how to activate the vibrating alarm....i can't find it!

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:17:55 PM #
OD does have them in Cincinnati. 4 in stock (now 3 :) Screen is a bit light and slightly uneven in brightness. 16 MB card free with purchase! Springfield Pike store has 3 left!

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:50:21 PM #
Office Depot, Appleton WI has them as well. I had two reserved I picked them up on the way home from work tonight. They are charging right now. I didn't ask if they got more than 2 in.

Good luck to everyone else.

btw, I was reading the manual; I hadn't noticed previously that 4.0 OS support timezones and daylight savings time... about time. And no I haven't looked at the screen yet. I fouled up a Vx once by not fully charging it, I'm not going to repeat the mistake, just in case.


m505 vs. IIIc?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:36:33 PM #
If someone could shed some light on the issue, for those who have compared it with the IIIc, how do the screens match up? I've been hearing that even with the sidelight on, the m505 is dimmer than the IIIc but but what brightness setting is the IIIc set at?? I have a IIIc and the m505 is sounding MIGHTY tempting so it would be nice to get some objective opinions before I decide one way or the other.

RE: I have an m505!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 7:28:07 PM #
The Corpus Christi Office Depot store has the m505 in their Moore Plaza store. Just bought one and it is great!

OfficeDepot has more than a price now ...

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:29:53 AM #
Now the web site says the unit is "in stock" and has a complete description.

-Eric

Office Depot Website

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:35:39 AM #
I just canceled my Palm Store m505 order (I ordered first day but it is clear they will ship long after Office Depot, Staples, and other stores have the product). I went to the Office Depot website found the m505 item #749241 (they need it when you call as the item won't come up with a search of m505). I then called customer service to ask for myself if the item was instock and the answer... YES. So I ordered it but still have some concerns.

1) The item is a "3 Day Delivery" item as it is coming from the "manufacturer." (Huh? Weird...)

2) Currently I am supposed to have the item 5/7 (3 weekdays from today when I ordered it) but someone who ordered it yesterday is supposed to get it 5/5 or so another post says.

My biggest concern is these "instock" website orders will never really arrive on time (I can easily wait till Monday) but this week brick and mortar Office Depots will get the units, I will be waiting for mine... and they will sell out.

Geez!!! I hope when I call tommorow there is a way I check if it shipped, or check my credit card to see if it was charged.

RE: Office Depot Website
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:47:59 AM #
I ordered from OD yesterday and they haven't charged my credit card yet. But they did confirm that I have the ~$480 available, tying up that amount for a couple of days. My supposed delivery date is Friday but I no longer believe anything a store tells me.

Just called my local OD office and the guy in Electronics didn't know when they would have them in.

RE: Office Depot Website
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:57:22 PM #
I bet I would have gotten my order on 5/7 as promised but I finally found a Chicagoland Office Depot with the m505, canceled the OD order and went and picked it up TODAY! Yeah...!

Hard Case

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:47:47 AM #
I talked with a palm guy yesterday, and he DID say that Palm had to scrap and redesign the case, something was wrong with them not closing all the way or something. So I believe that all you palm hard case lovers (Including myself) are going to have to hurry up and wait.

Office Depot

alee @ 5/2/2001 8:54:42 AM #
Checked the Office Depot in Philadelphia and had a friend check Office
Depot in Manhattan. Neither have received their m505 allotments.

-Al

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:00:07 AM #
I just checked the two office depots in Washington DC and they said no m505's in stock. Of course I'll go by one of them at lunch and check again. When the m500 came out the first clerk I asked said no they were not in yet and the manager overheard the question and said that they were in, just not on the shelves yet. I believe this guy in Anapolis. If he does know the receiving clerk he would have the real info. The people that answer the phone sometimes wouldn't know a palm if it bit them in the ass.

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:00:40 AM #
Al, did they give you any indication when they will be recieving the units?

RE: Office Depot
alee @ 5/2/2001 9:02:29 AM #
Got the same standard response. Sometime this month. I'm going to drive up there
this afternoon and try and round up a manager to give me better info.

-Al

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:38:08 AM #
Rhonda is the shipping person at the Annapolis store. I talked with her and with Jennifer this morning. I posted earlier to say they are shipping their third of 4 units to me. They were real nice to deal with. Very unusual now adays. Again thanks to Randy for the info.
I am not registered but have been an avid reader several times a day here. Boy did it pay off!

RE: Office Depot
alee @ 5/2/2001 10:11:07 AM #
I have this overwhelming urge to skip out of work to go to Office Depot. Is that wrong? :)

I have called all the places in Philly. Nobody has it. Aaaagh!

-Al (yes, I have nothing better to do)

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:58:18 AM #
I just called back the DC store (19th and L) and they now have the m505 (amazing what 2 hours does). I just picked it up. They are out there.

Harry

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:20:21 AM #
Just called my nearest OD and they got 4 - say they know they have at least two left and they are holding mine at the service desk. Whoo hoo!!
I'm off for the 2 hour round trip to collect it!

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:57:56 PM #
I just bought the last 505 at Office Depot in NYC, 30th St. and 2nd Ave. I called the Greenwich Village Office Depot first, but they said they'd have none till next week or later...

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:56:16 PM #
ALLENTOWN, PA OD has 3 left. Nice people.

m505 in Chicago: Nope

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:59:39 AM #
I just checked 10 Office Depots in and around Chicago, no m505's yet...

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:13:55 AM #
I just had Office Depot call me and tell me to come get my M505. He had 4 of them. This is not bullshit, I have been waiting like the rest of you!!! I am the one that posted that I would like to see the picture of the box and receipt so I have a camera here at work, just need to know how to upload the pic and I will post it. I am leaving work right now to go get it. So it will be a 1 1/2 hours before I respond here again. Dont ask me to post the Office depote location because I dont want them getting a million calls just to see if I am lying. I will post a pic of the box and the receipt to prove I have it.

Dean

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:31:31 AM #
wow, this is exciting... eagerly awaiting pics!

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
Ed @ 5/2/2001 9:38:46 AM #
If you can e-mail the pics to ed@palminfocenter.com, I can handle uploading them and posting a link.

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:03:58 AM #
I just e-mail ED the pics. Including receipt.

Dean

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:13:53 AM #
this is sweeeet!
Going to pick one up on the 12th, my bday. Can't wait to load intelligolf and hitting the lynx.

RE: m505 in Atanta: YES
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:14:04 AM #
I just picked one up at the Office Depot in Kennesaw. They received 4 in total. It's currently in the cradle charging. It did have a few minutes of juice already in it. Preliminary screen feedback is that it looks pretty good overall, the front light is probably not quite as bright as I expected, but still good. Personal opinions may vary.

m505 Pictures: Box, Contents, Receipt
Ed @ 5/2/2001 11:19:28 AM #
RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:25:24 PM #
Odessa Texas (yes) on reserve for me They got 3 in on the truck this am. morningstar1844@hotmail.com (Jerry F. Giardina) I will post comments on the web this evening after I charge it. Probably around 11:00 p.m. CST This is for real this time guys!! Good luck in hitting your local Office depot stores. I will check on Staples before I post this message! None at Staples in Odessa, Texas this am 11:35 a.m.

RE: m505 in Atlanta
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:25:41 PM #
Just got mine from the OD on Pleasant Hill. They got 4 but they were all spoken for. I got a call back from the OD on Jimmy Carter and they had 4 as of 12:15pm today.

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
scouter075 @ 5/2/2001 12:27:33 PM #
OD in Kennesaw has no more. I got the last! Sure wish I had a serial cradle!

scouter075@mindspring.com
RE: m505 in Chicago: Hyde park
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:22:06 PM #
just baught one..they just got delivery. finally...

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:26:28 PM #
What is the phone number to the Hyde Paek OD

RE: m505 in Chicago: YES!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:54:32 PM #
I was the orginal poster saying I couldn't find a m505 in Chicago this morning... well all the Office Depots got them in the morning and they have 'em now... SO DO I! See my review further down the posts...

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:32:09 PM #
Which Chicago? I just called the Ridgeland ave. OD in Naperville and they said they did not get them yet.

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:03:09 PM #
Downers Grove location on Ogden near Chicago has at least 1 or 2 left... I got one there about 2 hours ago.

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:07:27 PM #
PS: Ask for the free 16 meg card, I got one.

RE: m505 in Chicago: Nope
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:32:21 PM #
Yes there here in chicago , got mine this morning at 10.30 at schaumburg, il at office depot. Now home after working all day and excited to see how it works, have being charging it at work all day.

The date was always May 10th....

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:05:37 AM #
I work for Palm - all along, the expected retail availability date for the m505 has been May 10th. Sit tight for a few more days...

Dave

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:10:57 AM #
I belive you work for Palm, I also belive that many will be getting m505's before the end of this week... or this day.

RE: The date was always May 10th....
MadMax @ 5/2/2001 10:04:50 AM #
Palm Guy, go away. We don't want to hear about May 10th. And don't go squealing to your superiors about this "early release" either. We're just happy to get a product made by your company so, think about it: We are why you have a job. Don't blow it!


RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:24:16 AM #
Madmax,

Take a deep breath, relax...

Dave is legit and the information that he posts is always very informative. Don't bash the guy just because he is commenting on the release date from a his unique viewpoint.

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:01:57 AM #
Max,

Yes we are very grateful to all of our customers, I don't know why you think we aren't...

While a good number of m505's will be trickling into the channel this week (I'm not gonna squeal :-) ), the 10th is the day when you should see good availability of the product in all retail outlets.

That came from left field....

Dave

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:16:18 AM #
Question for Dave....How is the screen in your opinion and do you know why Palm isn't going to give the user the option to change the brightness on the device? Could a hack possibly fix this and provide this?

Thanks for any input...Mike H.

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:19:29 AM #
Mike,

The screen is what is was intended to be - extremely low power and thin. Is it as bright as the iPaq - no way, but the batteries really do run for 3 to 4 weeks and it's about the same size as a Vx.

As far as I know, there's no way to turn up the brightness. You could always use a hack to have the sidelights on, I guess - if it's too dark for you.

Outdoors, it is great.

Dave

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:22:17 AM #
Mike here is the best comparative review I have seen regarding the m5xx scree. The comparison includes all the units except the new clie witch the author (Shawn Barnett) did not have.

http://www.pencomputing.com/palm/stest/stest.html

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:50:46 AM #
Dave,

If you leave the sidelights on all the time, in your opinion, how long will the battery last? Rough estimate would be fine (a week at the most?).

Thank you
Edd

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:20:47 PM #
Not sure yet, but if you drop it in the cradle overnight, it shouldn't be an issue, right? I'm looking int this now.

Dave

M505 Screen....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:49:47 PM #
Just picked up my m505 at Office Depot in Timonium, MD; as of 11:00 EDT, they had 1 left after I bought mine.

Sorry folks, buy IMHO, the screen isn't what I expected. I've used a Visor Deluxe for about a year.

Even with the backlight on, the colors appear washed out. Look nothing like what appears on the box. Perhaps just my unit, perhaps just my perception.

But...please judge for yourself. I'm trading this guy back for the m500.

RE: The date was always May 10th....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:55:42 PM #
i agree.....very washed out and very dim....thought it would be a bit brighter especially from some of the pics i've seen online....it definitely is worse than the pics i've seen....another thing....the m505 on my logo seems like it's going to rub off within a day....it's not raised like the palm logo is on the device....hope i got the right one and not a closer to pre-production model?

SCREEN: With the backlight, it is PERFECT. We need a HACK!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:13:02 PM #
nt

With EasyView program from PalmGear, Screen is PERFECT!!!!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:48:44 PM #
nt

Dave - That is NOT the point!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 4:03:04 AM #
Dave said:

>Not sure yet, but if you drop it in the cradle
>overnight, it shouldn't be an issue, right? I'm
>looking int this now.

WRONG!!!

If you argue like this, what is the point of telling customers something about a 3 to 4 week battery life ? That makes absolutely NO sense.

Battery life is important for people who are NOT around a cradle everyday. If people are around cradles everyday, battery life has NO significance in my opinion, except if the battery life is less than an hour....

I thought the idea for the Palm was to have a "handheld, to be carried everywhere" [your website] as well as "handheld devices to provide access to and management of corporate information for mobile professionals".

Mobile is the operative word. Mobile for most people means leaving the office and leaving the cradle behind, not merely mobile movement to a meeting room and back to the desk.


Another beatiful quote from your site:
"Feature overload diminishes battery life, adds additional costs, and compromises the wearability and usability of handhelds. Our philosophy is simple. Start with the basics, make them affordable, and let customers add functionality as they see fit."

So now I want to use a feature (sidelight) that according to your design philosophy is not an overloaded feature that dimishes battery life, why do i have to put the palm back into the cradle overnight...?

I am sorry, I appreciate your input, and until a few weeks ago, I was a die-hard "no-way Handspring, Sony, Handera" Palm fan. Times surely have changed extremely rapidly for me over the last few days.

ex-Palm/new-Handera-user


Well, well?!

mikecane @ 5/2/2001 9:47:17 AM #
Has anyone gotten it and havce pix to post?!

It now turns out that Sony has allowed the American version of their color CLIE the ability to play unconverted and unecrypted native MP3 files. With the color hi-res screen, I am back in a buying dilemma.

m505 or color CLIE?

Sheesh. (Sorry if this was slightly OT!)

RE: Well, well?!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:08:40 AM #
If you want a .MP3 player, view images, movies etc.. why not buy a IPaQ ?? it has a good resolution & screen and great expandable..
I think I buy the 505 for the slim (Vx) design and SD Slot.. the Clie only got (expensive) MemoryCard for expansion.. The SD slot of the 505 offers a lot more..
It is difficult, but I think I buy the palm 505..
But I think I have to wait a little longer :(
Netherlands / Europe..


>>m505 or color CLIE?

RE: Well, well?!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:26:06 AM #
Hell, why not wait till the .... eh... shoot, might as well wait till next year's new palm with ARM processor... this pathetic display of "is it there yet" / "yes it is there", "no it isn't" .... I have had enough...it has taken to dam*ed long

I think i can hold out another few months on my trusted IIIx...



HandEra 330 delivery?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:00:44 AM #
So how about HandEra 330 delivery dates? I have heard that some places will have them on the 8th.

RE: HandEra 330 delivery?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:18:58 AM #
but this is out of league with the m505 - no color!!

RE: HandEra 330 delivery?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:24:11 PM #
Out of the m505's league? That is debatable - which is better: slim with colour or Palm III size with CF and SD, higher resolution, voice recording, soft Graffiti area, jog dial and cheaper?

I'd go with the 330 myself.

RE: HandEra 330 delivery?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:45:03 PM #
yea...and the handera 330 is $100 cheaper than the m505! I already ordered my handera from palmgear. They say it will ship May 7th....

Maniacal Bicycle Messengers

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:59:00 AM #
Re: Whether brick-and-mortar will result in faster delivery than on-line

My on-line Staples order is to be delivered by "Staples courier." I take that to mean that a Staples employee will get on a bike and deliver my m505 to me. So I'm guessing my on-line order will be treated pretty much like a bricks-and-mortar order.

I live in New York, and my delivery address is Midtown, ground zero for Staples deliveries, so they may not do it the same way everywhere.



Best Buy - Los Angeles

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:30:24 AM #
Hey guys I don't know if I can contain this excitement I NEED my new M505!

Does anyone know if the BEst Buy stores have gotten any yet? Particularly in the Ventura or L.A. County Areas? Thanks.

RE: Best Buy - Los Angeles
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:07:03 AM #
me again... also does anyone have an item or SKU # for best buy stores? that way i can call and ask them to look it up by that

RE: Best Buy - Los Angeles
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 9:07:20 PM #
got my m505 at office depot at tarzana ca

m505 Ship Date

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:57:57 AM #
Franklin Covey has always been the first in the past to get the latest Palm before anyone else. This being the case their ship date is May 18th. I stopped by a local store and they were taking pre-orders because they were only going to get 10 in stock. I snatched up the last 3 pre-orders. They even have their box that the m505 will come in on the floor. Take a look, its pretty cool!

RE: FranklinCovey Delays
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:55:53 PM #
I buy a lot from FranklinCovey. "Frankly" they normally have about a one week delay compared to direct sale outlets like Staples, Office Depot, etc. due to the fact that they choose to open up and unpack each box and then repack it with their own desktop software.

Ever since the IIIxe's and IIIc's came out I have found this to be true, FC has always been a week behind every other channel. The m100's came out about 5 days after the public release, but that was the best scenario I've seen for them.

Landware stylus in Palm m505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:09:31 AM #
I just picked up my m505 at office depot in DC (19th and L). One bit of good news - my Landware stylus will fit in the m505 notwithstanding the statement to the contrary on the landware web site. Just unscrew the top of the landware stylus and replace it with the top of the m505 stylus (it's shorter). At least this is one accessory I won't have to replace - now if it would only be that easy to replace my keyboard, Rhinoskin hard case, travel charger, etc.

Harry

RE: Landware stylus in Palm m505
scouter075 @ 5/2/2001 1:10:51 PM #
Harry

email me some info on that stylus please.

Thanks


scouter075@mindspring.com

Got it !

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:10:46 AM #
Yep! It's in! I just got it! Office Depot in Oklahoma City. They had 3 in stock.

It is charging right now. But to be honest guys I'm not to pleased with the screen. With the backlight turned on it is okay. But it is dark with the backlight off. I also have a IIIc and it is much brighter.

RE: Got it !
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:15:22 AM #
Yep. Office Depot in Melbourne Fl. They've got 4 in stock, have not displayed them yet.

449.00, I have not opened it yet. The picture on the box did not impress me, and the view of the photo suite images on the box did not impress me either.

Sony screen on picture looks very impressive, however its not all about the screen.

If you notice, palm is shipping with more software, and accordign to them you can also play mp3s from multimedia cards (for those of you interested).

Anyway, I will play with this device now and post my opinions at 4:00pm eastern time

Until then

Later

RE: Got it !
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:29:20 AM #
How does the screen compare to a monochrome screen in the same lighting condition ?

Are the icons and text just as visible.

Thanks for any feedback on this.

RE: Got it !
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:09:09 PM #
To me the screen is a lot darker than the monochrome version that I seen in the store. I wish it had a setting to have the backlight come on by default.

RE: Got it !
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:10:19 PM #
"accordign to them you can also play mp3s from multimedia cards"

Where does it say that? I have only read on Palm's web site that you can STORE mp3 files on a card. Nothing abut playing them on the m50x.

Maryland
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:10:49 PM #
I called the Timonium Office Depot. They said they had none and never did. I then started to compose a biting flame to post for the inaccurate information. But I stopped myself and decided to drop by the Office Depot instead.

Well, they had one. They weren't on display (and then I was really getting pissed off), I had to ask the person at the customer service desk. As they went to get it, I was thinking "I bet they are confused and are going to bring me an m500."

I can't tell you how happy I was to see 505 on the box.

Anyhow, the person on the desk told me that someone came earlier this morning and got 2. And the one I was getting was the LAST ONE.

So, instead of flaming you, I have to say thank you for leaving me one!

And to everyone else - don't call - just go to the store and ask for "the new Palm Pilot - the 505" and if they have it, they will produce it.

My opinion
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:25:53 PM #
Before you start reading keep in mind that the comparison with the Sony PEG-S300 is the B&W

first version of a Sony Brand Palm OS type. This is the one I have. I am only emphasisng

in atributes I think sony has advantage over (in my opinion) or just to evaluate diferences.

When I do not mention a comparison its because I do not thingkthere is an impact in

features or I do not care about the differences

CASING
whether is metal or plastic, I cannot really tell. The front and back looks like metal, the

middle of it, like plastic.

Sony S300 its metal on the sides and back, plastic on the font.

STYLUS
Thick and ugly, almost had to step on the thing to take it out. ( It took me 10 minutes and

a penny to pull it out of the rail).

When put back, does not go all the way in and stays sort of too loose, bound to get lost.

Sony S300 stylus goes in and out smoothly and makes a clicking sound to let you know that is

secure.

front flip cover??? Its hiddeous, I do not know why hey boter to put it in the box. I, it

doesn't look or feel right

SCREEN
Dark. with the back light looks ok, not impressive. The m500 screen is clearer even in

black and white. The picture on the box is displayed with the light on

No contrast adjustment button. Bad, bad, so your screen is alway going to be dark, unless

you alway use the back light or are standing in the sun (bright iluminated place). On the

sun you can actually see the screen, but its not more diffent than a well iluminated place

Acording to the Palm tech representative when used with the back light your batery life

won't be impacted too much ( charge every 3 weeks instead of every month ) We will see

that!

If you do not have the back (lime light on) you won't be able to tell if its in color or

not. (barely)

If you are under a lamp, the screen is still dark even with the back light. I you go to a

darker place or a regular iluminated place, then the backlight gives it an OK view of your

screen.

When I put my S300 on a regular lit room, the m505 looks slightly better but not by much.

When I turn on the backlight on both units, m505 is significally better.

CRADDLE
Heavy. This might be a good thing. rustick! And pulling the thing off it is like lifting

weights and it feels like its going to break. I called TEch support on this. This is the

way to pull it out.

1. move the device forwade (I would say 60 degree angle)
2. pull straight up. It comes out easy.

While taking it to the 60 degree angle, it sounds like you are actually going to break.

Palm says its intentional, and it won't break. "With wear and tear it should come out

easier with time".

Another way to know when to pull out, is to wait for that "beep" while moving the device

forward, when you do, pull in upward direction, it will come out easy.
SUPPORT
palm does not have an 800 number for US continental technical support. it does for Puerto

Rico technical support.??? (what is that all about?) Luckily I speak spanish, but we lost

communications (or he hanged up on me) and I decided to call Palm number (which is not an

800 number) according to them, they will have one within 30 days (just a rumor). This is

the catch

After 30 days of having your device, you have to pay by incident on your call. In other

words if you call tech support after 30 days of having your device, they will charge you a

fee for trying to fix it????? (Boy are they getting smarter???? I guess they really want to

loose the BUSINESS!!!!)

SOFTWARE
Contains additional Note pad, where you can scribble notes.
It seems you will be able to dial out from the palm I assume with a modem or phone.

Date book has no changes in its fields, that I've noticed so far.

Sony S300 has the ability to put a picture along with contact information. I think this is

neet, but not a necesity. I did not carry a picture in my palm of my contacts, but now that

I do have a color device, I think I want that feature incorporated!!!

I had asked palm about this feature in the past and the answer was yes it includes it. WELL,

IT DOESN'T.

no changes for the calculator, except the buttons, from circles to square

Botton line: It seems like this equipment is a Vx with color (when you turn the backlitght

on)

SYNCKING WITH YOUR OLD INFO.

a snap. I had already installed the Palm desktop 4 on my device. Had not problem.

Applications that supported color switched to color automatically.

**************** MY ADVISE TO YOU *************************

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT,... Wait so you can check out the color on the Sony N710 and compare it to

the M505 when they are on display, and see if its worth your money. If the screen is the

only important thing to you.

Also check on accessories, if you are going to spend the money on them. Sony is so much

more expensive.

In my case I have so much SONY JUNK that I am looking at other brands, sometimes propretiary

is not a good thing.

Reason why MAC is not what we have every household today!!!

Color Vs B&W. Honest opinion, if color is going to be defined by the Palm m505 displays you

are better off with B&W, unless you use the backlight, that that case, it will depend on the

user.

Color is nicer, 65million to 254? if you have better resulution tan 160X160 maybe, since I

have not seen the 320 resolution I cannot say, but I have seen the IIIc and that is

defenitly brighter than the m505.

****************************************************************************************

For now this is all I am adding. On a needed basis I will post more comments is I need to

PS why would anyone like to store mp3 files if they cannot play it?

GOT IT @ OD IN HOUSTON!!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:21:53 PM #
my goodness, first of all i have to say thanks to the palminfocenter message boards. I checked it this morning and people were reporting that they had gotten theirs so i called around some OD stores in Houston and finally got one, and they still have some available.
Forget what you've read, you can only judge the M505 when you have it in your hands. Having said that, this is one sweet unit. I drove 70mph in a 45 zone just to get home and even at that i kept staring at the box on the freeway just to convince myself i really had one unit. btw i couldn't wait to get home to thank the folks that posted the message about getting theirs on this board. Palminfocenter RULES BABY!!!
Now on to the 505. as i write this, my darling (thats right) sits in her cradle happily lapping up volts of electricity. Its a nice unit. For those who have not seen it, wait and test one out for yourself b4 you pass judgment.
Indoors, in low light, the screen sucks, yep i said it, it sucks, I guess the only way to enjoy the screen is to have the side light come on probably all the time. Having said that, the screen is beautiful with the light on. Having used a Vx for two years this a wonderful departure from the dull background. It feels great in the hands as well. The rail on the left side of the unit is too small except for the flap cover.
I guess everything else you can read from the palm website. Thats my little take on my 6 mins of use.
P/s it had about 25% charge out the box.
Being a student, i guess i have mega mega bragging rights to be one of the first to own this in school!!

To those that ordered from Palm, i say cancell your orders cos those a**holes really did you bad. I almost ordered one as well but decided to wait.
To those that haven't got it yet, i'm sorry, i was in the same dilemma. Hoping, lusting (yep), drooling, but take heart, when you do get yours you'll MOST DEFINITELY LOVE IT!!

AL

TO KEEP BACKLIGHT ON:
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:27:04 PM #
GlowHack. U can get it from PalmGear :)

RE: Got it !
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:52:27 PM #
In Chicagoland: I got it at Office Depot in Niles, IL. Yes, the screen is pallid, as we were warned. But given the small size and other features, the trade-off is acceptable (for me). Outside, the screen looks nice. Indoors it is VERY dark; I am going to have to install GlowHack to turn the backlight on automatically. I'm sure this will reduce battery life, but I cradle my Palm at least a couple times a day, so I'm not concerned.

RE: Keep the Light On: EasyView 1.0
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:09:31 PM #
Folks:

Looks like keeping the backlight on will turn out to be a no-brainer. Not only will GlowHack work apparently, but for those of us who don't like HackMaster hacks for whatever reason, you can also use EasyView 1.0. It's also available at PalmGear.

Still waiting for my M505 in Ithaca, NY... 8-)

whats the best setting for easyview for all-the-time light?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:39:36 PM #
00/00????

anyone know anything about west coast?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:23:31 AM #
i've called most all the OD's and Staples in the bay area (less than 1 hr. from Palm HQ's) and they are
like "i don't know, don't have a sku..." how come we have the sku's for both stores and the stores don't?
what a drag...
waiting for word.

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:38:26 AM #
I called 4 O.D.s at 7am this morning in the Bay Area and nobody has them, though they all had the sku in their system. One person told me that "3" were reported to be delivered to the district tomorrow. I am guessing that Palm shipped to the east coast first and will ship to the west coast second, hoping to have product arrive at both places at the same time. That is how a company I previously worked for did it.

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:44:03 AM #
I've checked in Northern CA, too, and no luck...it may be the West Coast really won't be seeing these in stores until May 10th... =(

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:14:22 PM #
Kind of like not being invited to the big party...

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:22:11 PM #
We are in Palm's backyard. If any retailers are going to hold to the 'official' sales date, it would be those in the bay area.

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:38:47 PM #
I just got a 505 from the Lynwood store near seattle. Off to play...

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:46:06 PM #
Gosh, can't believe they don't have it for ppl in Bay Area... :(

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:06:32 PM #

Nothing at OD in Los Angeles right now. I guess everyone went on strike. :(

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:16:23 PM #
But ppl in Porland Got already.. how come not US in California????

Got mine in Portland, OR this morning
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:22:30 PM #
Well I just got mine at OD in Tualatin, OR area. I live in the east bay but currently on a business trip here in Portland. I guess I am lucky, since they don't have a sales tax here either.

Mirza

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
skytraveler @ 5/2/2001 1:30:12 PM #
A good idea for anyone looking for the Palm M505 on the West Coast is to ask the people at Office Depot if they have received their freight yet today. Many of the stores I have called said they will be getting their freight around 11:00am to Noon. The product could be in that freight, so its good to find out and visit the store right after the freight comes in. But of course, give them a little time to unload it first : )

Just a friendly tip.

Viva la Palm M505!!!

The SkyTraveler

RE: Anyone know about Minnesota?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:35:33 PM #
How bout sitings in Minnesota?

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:50:55 PM #
This really sucks! m505 is available everywhere except in the freakin' Bay Area. The guy at OD in SF said mid-May.

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:58:31 PM #
gosh..... that's so not far.. why not ppl in Bay Area .. I have been waiting for this for so long now.

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:54:47 PM #
Just called Most of the OD in Bay Area.. they'll had their shipment in already for today, but none of them have M505 :(

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:00:18 PM #
I just confirmed that no office depot in the bay area got them in today. Oh well, maybe tomorrow.

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:24:05 PM #
Provo, UT OD sold all theirs this morning. I drove to Salt Lake where all ODs have/had them.

RE: West Coast 505 Delivery
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:51:57 PM #
Called the OD's in my area (Ventura County, CA) and no one there knows when they are expecting them. The sales guy gave me the date of May 10th. But after reading post of lucky people (from all over except California) recieving them today... I am keeping my fingers crossed that the 505's will arrive tomorrow.

Any suggestions when I should take action on my quest for the 505? Opening? Afternoon? Close?

Also, I have a pre-order at Staples... not sure when the heck they will kick in. Wondering if that release date of May 8th is true and/or if it will be earlier now that Office Depots are selling them.

Any suggestions or help would be great.

Party On!

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:40:17 PM #
Office depot on Barrington and Olympic has 3 left...will not put on hold, first come first served.

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:44:08 PM #
With respect to prior message that's in Los angeles

California, Here they come.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 3:01:44 PM #
In Orange County they are hitting the OD all over the place. I bought one in South Orange County at 9am today. Yipee!

RE: Westcoast Arrivals
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 6:35:53 PM #
Ventura County now has the 505!! Bought mine this morning.

But now I'm pissed... Because I have to order a serial Cradle, due to I don't have a frappin USB.

Happy with the screen although I'll know more when I SYNC

Not Frustrated Anymore

RE: anyone know anything about west coast?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 9:08:26 PM #
bought my m505 today at tarzana ca office depot no free 16mb memory

M505-back metal or plasitc?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:30:37 AM #
Is the back of the unit plastic like the M500, or metal?

RE: M505-back metal or plasitc?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:33:52 AM #
it's metal...

Dave

Multi-Voltage Charger?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:32:08 PM #
Does it come with a multi-voltage AC charger? Or is it only good for 110Volts?

RE: M505-back metal or plasitc?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:10:12 PM #
Kinda seems like plastic to me....definitely doesn't have the same metal feel of the Vx. Also all of the buttons are connected on one grid....put your finger on one of the buttons and move from side to side...all of your buttons will move around...

I got one too. Thank you you guys for telling me!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 11:44:41 AM #
I am in Manhattan. I just got it at Office Depot, Broadway and 4th street. I will then now start to look at it.

Enjoy!!

RE: I got one too. Thank you you guys for telling me!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:01:59 PM #
Birmingham, AL has them. Greensprings store. Had 5, now has 4. I posted yesterday that Jim said they were in the warehouse on the 30th and would get to him today. Sure enough, good ol' Jim! Of course, boot it up on the minimal charge, and guess what - it's just a Palm. Screen looks good, but nothing to blow you away. I haven't tried the backlight, as it is only minimally charged.

RE: I got one too. Thank you you guys for telling me!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:18:46 PM #
Thanks... I just went to OD at B'way and 4th St. and bought the last m505 from their first batch

M505 Screen protector

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:28:07 PM #
Does anyone know what kind I should get for my new M505?

RE: M505 Screen protector
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:57:49 PM #
Yeah, I've got 10 of those d*mn ScreenWrite Protectors left over from my Palm Vx. Do you know if the new screen is the same size?

RE: M505 Screen protector
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:08:05 PM #
I bought some of the Screenwrite type protectors and I have not tried them with my M505 yet. Didn't the IIIc require a different type from the other III series models because of the color screen?

RE: M505 Screen protector
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:56:07 PM #
Tried the WrightRights and the dim the screen very badly even with the backlight on. Hopefully someone will release a screen protector designed for the m505 soon.

screen protectors
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:20:39 PM #
here's how to protect the screen & save the $$:

Cut out a rectangle of overhead transparency so it is .2-.3 inches larger on all sides. slip it in (sort of hard, but you hardly ever have to replace it-only when you get it really mocked up & it looks like crap) and use. it doesn't break any seals or anything, and your warenty isn't void. I've used this on all of my models since my old palm pro (god, I loved that baby!) and it's been great so far)

RE: M505 Screen protector
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 9:32:48 AM #
I use the "clear" protectors from www.vsps.com. These aren't like the WriteRights in that they're not textured so they work on color or monochrome Palms.

M505 Is available

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 12:58:43 PM #
I just got off the phone with J&R Music world where 3 separate sales people advised that the M505 just came in and I am on the way to pickt it up.

m505 Charging in Portland, OR

Jason @ 5/2/2001 1:02:59 PM #
After reading the posts here, I called the dowtown Portland Office Depot this morning and found out they had just received four m505s. The guy I spoke with, Shane, put one on hold for me and currently I'm charging it up. I did have to take a quick peak at the screen before I started the charging and am quite pleased with it, but without the sidelight on it's only fair and is definitely darker then the Vx or m500. I'm looking forward to the first hack that will make the sidelight go on by default.

Good luck to everyone else in their hunting. This is the third time that either PalmStation or PalmInfocenter has aided me in snagging a new Palm the first day they became available.

RE: m505 Charging in Portland, OR
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:19:07 PM #
could you please give instructions about how to do this hack?


RE: m505 Charging in Portland, OR
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:48:37 PM #
It's called "GlowHack.prc" use it with Hackmaster or X-Master.

Works like a charm...

Ahab

M505 in SF?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:07:42 PM #
Anyone PLEASEeee post a message if M505 shows up in SF area Office Depot (Geary & Masonic)? Thanks

Just picked up my M505 from Office Deopt in Kingston, NY

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:15:22 PM #
Hi All.. This is true... I just pickedup an M505 from Kingston, NY OfficeDepot. They got in 2 and held 1 for display... LOVE IT


RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:17:02 PM #
Hi, RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505. Got mine on the Madison Avenue and 56th Street store. I asked and they will ship overnight for anyone who wants one.I love mine. Color is fine and the backlight is bright enough for my needs... ignore the naysayers and check it out for yourself. Color for an extra $50 is a no brainer.

RCS Computer Experience
575 Madison Ave
New York, NY 10016
Phone: (212)949-6935


RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:28:44 PM #
I just called them and they denied that they even have one. Please respect people anctious to get it and post true info only.

RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:48:27 PM #
well then you can call the sales guydirectly.. Jose Malina. 212-949-8012 x1764 He sold me mine and they will ship ovenight. Whether you believe me or not is irreleveant...I got mine

RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:07:03 PM #

What is RCS charging for the 505?

RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:10:32 PM #
$449 and NYC tax... I called and got mine.. thanks

RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:19:22 PM #
I just called and indeed they supposedly got 500 in stock today. The only drawback if you aren't sure about the screen is that their return policy is 10 days and only if it is defective. You can't just return it because you don't like the screen.

Got mine at RCS!!!!! NYorkers they got loads!!!!!!!!!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:50:10 PM #
They have many many of them...

RE: RCS in Manhattan has 20 cases of the 505
ScottG @ 5/3/2001 3:16:41 PM #
Yeah Baby!!!!

I just got off the phone with RCS also, got mine comming over night - Friday Delivery. Thank you for posting this contact here for this purchase. Now when I get it tomarrow I'll be sitting on the phone all day canceling my wait lists every where else - Including Palms.

I think I'll be up all night.

Scott

ScottG

I get no respect ...

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:19:07 PM #
Typical. Not only do the Palm.com pre-orderers who fired up their puters at midnight on March 19 to be the first m505 owners get screwed, but EVERYONE who thought they were beating the system by preordering is getting screwed.

Looks like the best plan was to wait and then waltz into Office Depot and wait for some dope to dig through today's heap of boxes and pull one out for you.

Further proof that the world revolves around me and it is revolving in the wrong direction.

RE: I get no respect ...
jddiog1 @ 5/2/2001 1:45:23 PM #
Got mine at OD in Richmond, VA. They got five at each store here. Limited peripherals and NO SERIAL CRADLE! All I can do is charge and play with the unit itself until I get home to sync it with my laptop. I have pre-ordered a serial cradle from Palm.com but if past experience is any indicator of future performance, I might as well just camp out in front of Office Depot..........

RE: I get no respect ...
maddie @ 5/2/2001 5:11:24 PM #
No you are not getting screwed. All you have to do call and cancel.

I got mines this morning, paid less too. Called palm center, cancelled my order. and moved on. No questions asked!!!

GOT MINE

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:34:07 PM #
Orlando, fl Colonial Drive Office depot has them! I walked in casual said do you have them in? and then lady told yes do you need one! I was shocked and didn't want to believe it untill she brought the box out. Then i asked her if she had a memory cards and told her i wanted to put them on two different cards. And she told me that it came with it? Cool! Calling Palm to cancel my order right now!

p.s. the color screen is nice! fits my needs!

RE: GOT MINE
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:35:47 PM #
Seems like all the Office Depots in Orlando got 4 each. I got mine at the Kirkman store but they didn't know anything about the free card. Was there a flyer in the Sunday paper?

Will Palm V Cases fit.

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:44:03 PM #
Does the size of the left slot prevent Palm V cases from fitting?

RE: Will Palm V Cases fit.
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:56:21 PM #
yes its alot smaller so the old one will not fit, btw i still haven't been able to get the stylus out!!! Its really tightly fitted.

RE: Will Palm V Cases fit.
xynos @ 5/2/2001 4:18:40 PM #
stylus is definitely tight.. had to 'whack' them with the table before they got loose. *grin*

i'm using the Coach Palm V case and the m505 fits great.

RE: Will Palm V Cases fit.
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:31:01 PM #
Thanks for the info. Are you using the Coach zip-around Palm V case? That's what I'm
using for my Palm V and I'm hoping that it'll work with the m505.

re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:38:41 PM #
I've been trying to get the SMS application on the second CD to work with my Motorola L7089. In theory this shouldn't be difficult, since I've used 3rd party SMS programs with my old Palm Vx and my phone with no problem.

But this software appears to require a specific driver for your phone. Of course, the CD only comes with drivers for three phone! The people at both Palm and Motorola were not very helpful.

Two questions:
1) Has anyone out there made this work and/or have this driver for me?
2) Does anybody know if this is this the same software as on the MIK CD, since it explicitly support my L7089. Perhaps someone could send me just the driver file from that CD? (Probably something like Motorola_L7089.PRC).

Chad Conrad
ceconrad(remove this part)@usa.net

RE: re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:50:35 PM #
No, it's not the same as the MIK. WIth the MIK, Palm hardcoded phone support. This is new software which requires the new Phone Drivers. Palm has made the Phone Driver Development Kit available to developers to write their own drivers for particular phones. There are only drivers for two nokia models and one ericsson phone available right now.

Dave

RE: re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:06:28 PM #
Which Nokia phones (7160, I hope!)?

RE: re. 2 CD's in the m505 box: Mobile Connectivity Software
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:46:28 PM #
Dave,

Thanks for the info. It didn't really occur to me that they had changed the architecture, though it makes sense. I just wish there were more driver available at the start, I guess.

So I guess this means that unless someone can point me in the direction of an L7089 driver, I'll have to register one of the shareware SMS applications that I've seen out there, and not have integrated phone support in my OS yet.

Chad

OfficeMax and m505

xynos @ 5/2/2001 1:45:59 PM #
I spoke to the manager at the St. Louis Park, Minnesota. They are expecting m500 to arrive sometime this week, but no news of m505.

Is the SERIAL CRADLE for sale too??? Thanks.

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:47:39 PM #
nt

RE: Is the SERIAL CRADLE for sale too??? Thanks.
jddiog1 @ 5/2/2001 3:54:27 PM #
I can't find it in Richmond. I called Best Buy and they have a Belkin adapter USB to Serial. I am gonna try it tommorrow and I will post the result.


USB To Serial Adapter will NOT work. We must wait for
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:44:01 PM #
Serial Cradle.

Got m505, Review Coming Soon

Ed @ 5/2/2001 1:53:21 PM #
I just picked up my m505 from Office Depot and I'll be putting together a full review starting... now. Hopefully it will be finished by this evening. It's all I'm going to do today.

http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/img_m505_ed_1.jpg

p.s. Picture has another lovely view of my ugly wallpaper.

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter

RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:00:35 PM #
The setup looks great, but maybe you should have put the $450 for some new wallpaper. :)

RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:12:09 PM #
That is severely ugly wallpaper. Even to get my m505 early, I don't think I'd trade. :^)

Bander


RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:23:06 PM #
Yeah, it looks like Laura Ashley threw up in there! Dude, invest in some paint or something, would ya? JBH

RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:28:32 PM #
I currently have a Vx and want to upgrade to the M50x series. Please show how the screen compares to non color devices.

Side by side shots of the same app, datebook for example, would be great.

RE: Got m505, First Impressions
Ed @ 5/2/2001 2:40:41 PM #
It's going to be a few hours before the review is finished so I'm going to give you some quick first impressions.

The screen is dim and the black grid is there. I'm going to run the sidelight most of the time. Looks good with the sidelight on.

It feels solid. I don't much like the flip cover; it adds too much to the depth. I can't use the V series hardcase I have. My SLIMpoint stylus works better than the original.

OK, that will have to do for a while. Gotta go write the review.

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter

RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:33:14 PM #
Go see what Steve at BrightHand.com Has to say....I was blown away!

First ever...BrightHand Editors Choice Award

RE: Got m505, Review Coming Soon
EdwardGreen @ 5/2/2001 5:19:12 PM #
We are not all PPC zealots at Brighthand. If Steve likes it it musty be pretty good.

-
kHiTeDev
Review Available Now
Ed @ 5/2/2001 8:24:22 PM #
I finished the review. Take a look:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1867

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter

Free SD Cards?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 1:58:35 PM #
Did everyone who bought a m505 from OD also get free SD cards too?

RE: Free SD Cards?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:00:57 PM #
I asked and was told the free SD card only comes with the M500

RE: Free SD Cards?
mad212 @ 5/2/2001 2:12:21 PM #
I did the same preprared to pay for them, and she said that they came free!!! I don't argue with that word!

RE: Free SD Cards?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:35:35 PM #
Just picked my M505 at the OD in Norther VA. Asked about the free card, but no dice. They said if they put it out in the paper this week offering a free card, I could come back and get the card...

RE: Free SD Cards?
EdwardGreen @ 5/2/2001 5:17:59 PM #
We are not all PPC zealots at Brighthand. If Steve likes it it musty be pretty good.

-
kHiTeDev

Minneapolis OD has it in stock!

xynos @ 5/2/2001 2:03:10 PM #
As of 1:06pm, (CT) they have m505 in stock. I will be picking them up later today.

I have the m505--Dallas, TX

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:01:49 PM #
They Office Depot on Oaklawn and Cedar Springs in Dallas has 4 m505's left. I got the first one. And I only bought one. Let's all be considerate and not be greedy for ebay.

The screen: it's not that bad, really. Had I thought it was going to be like the iiic, then I would be disappointed. But I thought it was going to totally SUCK, and it does not--with the backlight turned on. Without the backlight it's comparable to the ipaq in sunlight without its backlight.

I feel the screen overall is better than the prism simply because the black grid isn't very noticeable. That is worth alot to me. But the screen is nowhere near as bright, but it's good enough if you ask me.

Email with more questions. I have pics to prove I have it, but by now there are so many people claiming they have it I don't think I'll be labeled a false prophet.

It's not a great screen, but you can live with it.



RE: I have the m505--Dallas, TX
maddie @ 5/2/2001 2:30:01 PM #
that's what I am trying to debate, weather I can live with it or not.

I have an S300, wondering if I could just save the money!!

None in Rockville, MD so far

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:07:22 PM #
This is killing me... I'm too old to be this eager for a new toy. :^)

No m505's at the Office Despot in Rockville (on the Pike) or Gaithersburg (Shady Grove Rd). All things considered, I will probably call again before I leave work...

The Staples on Rockville Pike is clueless (that's where I put in one of my pre-orders -- the other is with Outpost.com). The salesguy said, "End of May, the official release is May 26," and refused to believe me when I told him the pre-order sign had promised they would be in by May 8th. If OD gets them in first around here, I'll forego my free game card just to not have to deal with the Staples confusion.

Have they shown up at _any_ Staples or other retail outlets, or is it just Office Despot so far?

Bander


RE: None in Rockville, MD so far
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:14:57 PM #
No sightings at all yet in Columbus, OH. None of the Staples have them. One said they did until I drove there and the manager went into the back room and could only find m500s. To their credit, he was very apologetic and promised to call me when they did come in.

We don't have any Office Depots within an hour's drive from Columbus. AARGH!

RE: None in Rockville, MD so far
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:15:32 PM #
forget staples and Palm, looks like OD has the big deal with palm, just got one from OD in NC

RE: Columbus, OH so far
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:23:54 PM #
I'm over here in Columbus, OH as well. Have you tried the CompUSA on Sawmill? Please inform us if you hear of any in the Columbus area!

RE: Columbus, OH
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:24:52 PM #
I gave up on stores in Cols... I have my name 15th on the list at Franklin Covey at City Center, so if all else fails I'll get it there when it comes in.

I didn't check any CompUSAs, because they told me a few days ago that they get things about a month after they come out.

I decided I'd just order from OfficeDepot.com and see how it turns out... I called to confirm my order and they said it would be shipping from a warehouse in Hamilton (?), and delivered tomorrow (5/3). I asked them to double-check, and they came back and said that they weren't sure their Web site was accurate, because this was a "low-stock" item... when I asked exactly what that meant, she said it meant that they had five.

Wish me luck... :-)

RE: Columbus, OH update
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:03:48 PM #
ATTN: the other guy in Columbus -

If you haven't ordered from OfficeDepot.com yet, you might want to... I called again and was told that mine was definitely going to be delivered tomorrow, and they said they have 4 in stock (of which I have one). If you order this late, it might not arrive until Friday, though.

Office Depot in New England

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:10:45 PM #
Never mind finding a m505! I CAN NOT LOCATE A OFFICE DEPOT in NEW ENGLAND!!!! geeeee.... I'll have to wait for Staples and forget office max. They still do not have the m500!!!!!



RE: Office Depot in New England
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:43:31 PM #
Ther is one in Allston, Ma. I do not know if they have the m505.

RE: Office Depot in New England
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:53:29 PM #
I too, live in New England. I called the Annopolis store at 8.30 today and the are shipping one to me tomorrw. Thanks to Randy for his early post this morning.

I have the m505--Dallas, TX

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:01:49 PM #
They Office Depot on Oaklawn and Cedar Springs in Dallas has 4 m505's left. I got the first one. And I only bought one. Let's all be considerate and not be greedy for ebay.

The screen: it's not that bad, really. Had I thought it was going to be like the iiic, then I would be disappointed. But I thought it was going to totally SUCK, and it does not--with the backlight turned on. Without the backlight it's comparable to the ipaq in sunlight without its backlight.

I feel the screen overall is better than the prism simply because the black grid isn't very noticeable. That is worth alot to me. But the screen is nowhere near as bright, but it's good enough if you ask me.

Email with more questions. I have pics to prove I have it, but by now there are so many people claiming they have it I don't think I'll be labeled a false prophet.

It's not a great screen, but you can live with it.



OD in Pittsburgh, PA has 'em

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:19:28 PM #
Just picked one up at the Office Depot at Edgewood Town Center. There was one sitting at the counter on hold for another lucky palm fanatic! They said they have a "few" in the back, but they're going fast. I asked about the free 16mb SD card and was told it was for the 500 only. No big deal. Let the charging begin!!!!

Palm Customer Service

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:17:52 PM #
I called up Palm today to ask when Palm.com would be shipping the preorders. I mentioned that several people had already grabbed some from OD and even posted pictures... what do I get as a reply?

"We have no idea when the units will be shipping from Palm. Office Depot does not have m505s, only m500s. You must be mistaken."

Guess so... my eyes aften read the number 5 as the number 0, and "color" as "black and white LCD."

Was there ANY point to preordering? It seems to be the most expensive, slowest way to get them.

RE: Palm Customer Service
mad212 @ 5/2/2001 3:26:28 PM #
Yeah dont let them fool you, i have on in my hands and will have pictures posted shortly. The screen is cool, you kinda have to press harder then with the palm v series to get a response though. Other than that i pretty happy with it.

RE: Palm Customer Service
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:42:04 PM #
Don't talk to Palm Customer Service. Talk to the Palm store reps. They're clued in b/c they are actually involved w/ selling the unit. When I called them, they gave me correct info.

RE: Palm Customer Service
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:04:15 PM #
well, ok. they gave you correct info, but what did they say? When will they ship? When does my m500 get shipped too? I want to play already!

I found another store with them

BobbyFever @ 5/2/2001 2:37:13 PM #
I was able to pick up an m505 in the RCS computer store in NYC. They had at least 4-6 boxes that i saw on disply (less the one i bought). Web site is www.rcseshop.com

RE: I found another store with them
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:47:28 PM #
Did you get any free card?

RE: I found another store with them
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:14:00 PM #
I got one too

RE: I found another store with them
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:38:27 PM #
When I bought my m505 at Office Depot I almost had the purchase rung up and said "hey do you have a free card promotion with this" and a guy said "oh yeah right, let me get your 16 meg card... which I got free." You have to *ask* though...

RE: I found another store with them
xynos @ 5/2/2001 4:00:26 PM #
the guy at office depot said that there was no promotion for the m505, only the m500?

RE: I found another store with them
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:11:13 PM #
Just ordered mine from them as well. Palm is full of BS.

Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:40:59 PM #
I e-mailed Staples.com to say "Whassup? How come Office Depot is getting all these and you ain't got noofin'?" In reply, a customer service rep said Staples.com expects to ship the m505 on MAY 22. WHAT?!

So I hurried out some calls to local Office Depots (NYC), and found noofin'!! (All had them, all sold out.)

It's a shutout. I'm going to go play with my abacus for three more weeks.

RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:48:56 PM #
If you live in NYC why not go to the RCS computer store? They told me over the phone that they got 500 in stock today. I wish I could go there but I am stuck on the West Coast where we have NOTHING yet.

RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:51:09 PM #
I haven't gone to RCS because I can't justify passing up a free card of some sort (memory or game) just to get my machine sooner.

I'll probably end up canceling my Staples.com order and going to Office Depot when they get them again. (Assuming they still give out something free.)

RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 4:13:27 PM #
I just got an email response from Staples saying:
"Your Palm M505 is scheduled to arrive no later than 5/7/2001."
do you have any details on who said it won't be shipping until the 22nd? (did you have a pre-order
in? Maybe it's the 22nd for people who didn't pre
order?)



RE: Staples.com: May 22? Screw them.
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 4:55:44 PM #
I received my M505 from Staples in NYC this morning. I got a call based on my preorder. Received a free game card and free 16mb game card. Plus, used coupon for $20.00 off.

RE: Southern California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:41:04 PM #
I've called all the Office Depots & Staples in my area and no on has recieved the 505 yet. Is it me or is there something wrong with this picture?

The first 500 appeared in my area and now while 505's are showing up all over there are none around here. Is it me or do I just have to go in and ask; rather then call on the phone.

Really Frustrated

RE: RE: Southern California
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:50:47 PM #
I am also in Southern California and have been calling all over the place. Most of those clowns answering the phone have no clue when to expect them. They do seem to disappear for a LONG time before coming back with an answer though. Hmmm makes me wonder if they were told to NOT sell them before next week.

RE: Southern California
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 2:55:26 PM #
Just called the last Office Depot within a 100 mile radius, and the guy didn't even know what the heck a Palm 505 was. But he went back and checked and nothing... but interestingly enough it is in his computer as there.

Something is up, and Staples is now saying May 22.

Still Really Frustrated

RE: RE: Southern California
joegomolski@microinteligence.com @ 5/2/2001 5:13:12 PM #
Hi All,

I live in the San Diego area, and called Office Depot (4), Staples, Best Buy, and Circuit City, a complete strike out at this time.

I have got to say, it's pretty bad form for Palm to ignore the pre orders. And I placed my order 3/18.

It's like this, I want it now! give it up!


Joe Gomolski

RE: RE: Southern California
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 9:10:09 PM #
office depot at tarzana ca still has 4m505 no free memory

I've got one for sale- M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:05:26 PM #
If you want it I will charge $580 + shipping. I can overnight it or whatever you prefer. This is exactly $100 over my cost+ tax ( I could probably get $250 over cost but I don't really care). This is for wednesday only so it will be gone by thurs so don't mail me after today.

I bought it at office depot, its still wrapped. For verification i can give you my phone number and we can talk - I will also scan my receipt and take a photo of the unit to verify.

No flames please, if you don't want it, don't email me.

Thank you- FYI I bought the last of 5 at office depot in Englewood, CO

nhl@dim.com is my address.

RE: I've got one for sale- M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:12:46 PM #
If you've just bought the last one, how come I've just got back from the same Office Depot in Englewood and they told me I had the last one.

RE: I've got one for sale- M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:23:24 PM #
It looks like they're doing the one only per customer :)

Unless you went to a different one. I got mine at Arap and I-25 about 60 minutes ago.

RE: I've got one for sale- M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:35:57 PM #
They should just limit one per customer to avoid these stupip ppl trying to make profit off this.

RE: I've got one for sale- M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:44:21 PM #
I don't think that's a big deal- if he/she took the time to go get it and wants to make a $100 for their time then that's their gig.

Personally I'll wait the extra 2 weeks. I'm poor and can't spring for the xtra $.

RE: I've got one for sale- M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:22:23 PM #
I also live in Englewood Colorado and I thought long and hard about buying the M505. It comes down to this; it's just too expensive for a sub-par color screen that you can't adjust the brightness on. Also there is nothing value added in the package, no travel charger, no SD cards. Come on Palm give us a better deal or a better screen!

My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:25:02 PM #
First off: I love this unit already more than my previous: Pilot 5000, PalmPilot Professional, Palm III, Palm V, and Palm IIIc. I have also used (for a short time before going back to Palm) the Casio E-11, and Casio E-115.

What is this unit? It is a Palm V with useable color. Period. That is the selling point and it works. Putting this unit next to my IIIc right makes the IIIc look like a towering monster, I am so glad I finally have a Palm V (emmm.. m505) back (gave my V to my wife and never stopped regreting it.)

How about the screen? Wow, it is *different*. In the car in the parking lot of Office Depot (yep, I had to... it had 25% battery power by the way.) I turned it on and I thought the display was very good (cloudy day). It had a greyish background but readibility was very good and color was clearly visible, forget that *you can't see color* BS because it just isn't true.

When I got home I locked myself in the bathroom for darkness (yep, I am a complete and total nerd) and turned the backlight on and wham up comes the milky white type of backlight you see on the iPAQ, and the screen was *beautiful* and *colorful* but not in the blinding way of the IIIc.

Now what about in between, a sorta dark room (no overhead lighting) in my house like the living room on a cloudy day with the windows open and the lights off. The m505 was weakest here. My wifes Palm V was a little more clear in readibility unless you tilted the m505 to try to capture more light. If I turned the backlight on it made it more readible but was hard to see the backlight was on. Is it good... yes... but not fantastic.

In general about the screen: In office lighting it will equal a Palm V in readibilty, show USEABLE color (not muddy but not IIIc), outdoors it is very good, in pure darkness it is good, and in dim lighting needs some twisting and the backlight but is *ok*. Is it better than the IIIc... HELL YES, HELL YES, HELL YES. It is managable in ALL lighting, shows color in all lighting, AND DAMN IT IS SO SO SO SO much smaller.

The case is great, ALL metal front AND back, the buttons looks SO much better than the m500 (which got the off color black buttons.) and the sides are nicely rounded. The built in calculator is now in color. The backlighting of the grafitti area (which I have never seen anyone talk about) works GREAT with the white markings on the area being transparent and lit from behind so it seems the lines light up from BELOW (I thought until I had the unit that the light would wash over the grafitti area but this is MUCH better.)

I will post more later... in summary THE BEST PALM EVER with a DIFFERENT but still GREAT color screen.

RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:56:37 PM #
Also an intresting note about the box: Cleary Palm has changed the box art etc. from what was orginally shown on the Palm website to reflect the darker screen (ie. the greyish background) so customers won't be suprised. When the first pics of the m505 came out from Palm they had the *perfect* color screen with bright white backgrounds and this imagery continues in the accessories catalog they include with the m505 but the screen shots on the front and back of the box are MUCH more in-line with how the screen really looks.

RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:10:49 PM #
Can you load somes games on it like Zap! 2000 or a driving game and let me know if the color screen quality any good for gaming? Also, did you get any expansion modules?

RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:19:23 PM #
I got the 16 meg card for free as an offer I HAD TO ASK FOR from Office Depot when I got my m505. I have not used it yet. As for color games I imagine (without having done it yet, I finally have m505 taking a breather on the charger... hehehe) it is NOT the equal of the IIIc at all as colors are clearly darker in all situations other than bright sunlight but they ARE clear (this muddy color buisness I don't understand, they just don't *pop* out at you like on a IIIc set to max brightness). For me I am in love for one main reason... the look, form, and size of the unit. I have a Palm V (my favorite Palm up to the m505) with color. I wish it was bright like a IIIc in all situations and good in the sunlight like it is BUT you can't have it all perfect (at least not yet, even the iPAQ can't challenge the form factor of the m505) and the m505 does most everything very well. When I look at it next to my IIIc and turn it on and I see that color... it is worth every single dollar.

RE: My REVIEW of the m505 (after 20 minutes of use... hahaha)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:43:56 PM #
Just using mine here in the office... On the cradle now and powering up, but was able to beam over a few apps. Worried about them not working, use Datebk3 and read today that it's doesn't work with OS4. So I'm going to download Datebk V-3.1 and try that a little later. I did however beam over LauncherIII, great program, and the icons for the programs were all wacked. Even though I use the "List View" preference, it was interesting that most of the icons didn't even show up and the ones that did were all garbage. No problem, I'll just go to the list view :)

Wow, just beamed over AOL (wanted to see what it would like in color and it really messes up in LauncherIII). Made it's on folder for it... The color did look good on the welcome screen. OK, just went in and downloaded the latest ver of LauncherIII, all better. I'll kick myself later.... (I can already hear everyone!) ;)

So... for the most part it looks pretty good, love the color and can't wait for it to be fully charged... I'm psyched that... Wait, it doesn't fit! The stylus for the palm M505 is about 1/8 of an inch shorter than the one I had for the palmV. What gives??? I tried to stick my stylus, a Pilot Pentopia Chameleon V, and it didn't fit, damn. Well, that's two things I'm ticked about, the other was the hardcase not fitting... I guess that's another thing that goes to my wife when I pass on the palmV....

More to come....


Free 16 MB card from Office Depot?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:50:24 PM #
You said you got a free 16MB card from OD? Where do they say they are offering that?!?! I've been had!

One M505 for sale

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 3:37:36 PM #
Got mine today but also got word my HandEra 330 would be shipping soon. Decided that the HandEra's the one for me. I could just return it but after all the hassle I went through to get one, I thought I'd try and make some profit on it. Anyone who wants to pay me $587.11 ($100 over my cost including tax) via PayPal can have my new unit shipped to them overnight. I'll cover the shipping cost. E-mail me at markq@prefcomputers.com

Thanks;
Mark

RE: One M505 for sale
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:25:09 PM #
You have got to be kidding me...

RE: One M505 for sale
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:18:37 PM #
Nice going. Dream on! Buddy

RE: One M505 for sale
dteky @ 5/2/2001 6:08:35 PM #
What an idiot!

dteky

RE: One M505 for sale
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:52:09 PM #
I know.. stupid...

RE: One M505 for sale
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:52:20 AM #
You know people, I was just looking at the responses on this thread regarding me offering my M505 for sale. If you are not interested in buying the product or you think I am trying to take advantage of you, I've got a little tip... Don't buy it! The product has already been spoken for anyways. I take a look over the frantic posts over the last few days and it's pretty clear to me who the idiots are. I figured with the massive hardons you all seem to have for the unit, I might as well make some money on it. And I did.

RE: One M505 for sale
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 7:06:35 PM #
pppbbbbrrrrttttt

How about Vancouver, Canada?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:06:38 PM #
Any body seen one? Thanks!

RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:26:24 PM #
Staples, London Drugs & Future Shop all seem to say anywhere between May 8th and the end of May depending on which branch and which salesperson you speak to.

RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:27:26 PM #
Staples here in Calgary tells me they'll have them this afternoon. So now I have the difficult decision about whether to stick with the m500 I bought yesterday (fantastic display, even better than my Vx), or go with the colour that is receiving mixed reviews at best. I will post more later re. Canadian availability and my opinion when I get my hands on one.

To those of you with 505s now, can you answer me simply this: In normal, indoor lighting, will the 505 still be as legible as my Vx was? (I don't care if the colours aren't brilliant; I'm just asking about basic contrast on text.)

RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:40:26 PM #
I called the Downers Grove, IL OD yesterday and was told May 9th or later, today I called and I bought one there. I am sure Staples (which owns Office Depot right?) will get them shortly. Office Max tends to lag slightly. CompUSA usually comes later, Best Buy usually 3-4 weeks late. Palm always ships last.

RE: How about Vancouver, Canada?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:45:59 PM #
I got a 505 this morning. Using it indoors with natural window light and the sidelight off, I'd say my old IIIe has better contrast. There doesn't seem to be a contrast setting on the 505. The manual mentions one, but apparently this only applies to the M500.

I love the form factor and the quality of build, but IMHO the screen could be brighter.

I think you should wait to see a M505 before rushing to trade in your M500.

m505 Screen not dark anymore !

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:15:53 PM #
Thanks to Glowhack when I turn on my m505 the screen looks good now. Glowhack turns on the backlighting automatically without holding down the on button for two seconds.

Works great! I highly recommend.

RE: m505 Screen not dark anymore !
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:44:40 PM #
What about powere drain....

RE: m505 Screen not dark anymore !
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:48:11 PM #
Supposedly the light only reduces the lifetime of a single charge by about %20... or as someone quoted earlier, about 3 weeks for normal usage with backlight on.

Office Depot web site now says "Unavailable"

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:25:26 PM #
The web site reports "The item 749241 is not available for delivery." Elsewhere it also claims that this item cannot be backordered.

No Office Depot stores in Southern California (or from reading the comments, Northern CA) have recieved the 505 yet, although M500's seem to be readily available.

My guess is that they released them to everywhere EXCEPT California today; CA will probably show up tomorrow. :-( The price we pay for Sunshine, I guess.

Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:31:48 PM #
I just called my Office Depot in Indiana. They'll say they don't have the m505 if you ask for it directly. Because they claim they don't see it in their system, but if you mention the SKU# 749241 (only for Office Depot), they can provide you better details. I told them the SKU just 2 hours later via phone, and they said they had 3 in-stock that they had just received today. I went there and picked up the last one; apparently the word gets out. So, I'd recommend all you buyers who want one now...ask your Office Depot just do a SKU check for availability...instead of asking for the m505 directly.

Happy Hunting,
Eric from Indiana

RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
geoken @ 5/2/2001 4:52:20 PM #
Eric,
You are correct. I called and they have four and are hlding one for me. I'll be there soon.
Thanks,
George

RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:35:32 PM #
YES! Nice COMMENT!! FINALLY....I went in to every single store that MIGHT* have the m505: Office Depot, Staples, CompUSA, Best Buy, and finally OfficeMax. After stopping at each store...I only found ONE display for the m500! I asked the representative at Office Depot, and he said they were expecting the m505 sometime in May (MAYBE!). So, I get home and search on the internet for the SKU #: 749241 on the Office Depot site. I then input my Zip Code: 14623 (Rochester, NY) and Find out that it says they have them in STOCK! I IMMEDIATELY call the number, and talked to a representative, and the first thing that I said was: "Can you check for an item with the SKU # of:", and he said sure...so he then reinforced the product. It turns out that they have 3 in stock...just maybe 30 minutes after I asked the guy in the store who said that they had none in stock. I asked if he could hold it for me the rest of the night, and he said he could...so It looks like another of us get our prized possesion!! And only a few days after the Clie is officially announced....too bad that the Clie's size isn't smaller, else I'd actually consider that in my search for a new Palm ( I have my V now, which will be retired soon). So if any of you are from Rochester, New York ...quickly go out to the Office Depot! Thanks, good luck to the rest of you!

-jeremy

RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:51:55 PM #
Please tell us which OD? thanks

RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:33:58 PM #
Yes I got the first one at the OD in Rochester, I called at noon and they did not know anything, but said keep checking
So I looked on here again and saw even more of you guys finding them. So at 4:45 I called OD again and talked to someone
who said yes They have them. I asked again "505 not the 500" Oh your right we only have the 500. Then out of the blue some guy yelled over
and said he found 4 of them on the cart. I asked can I come right over and get it. Well by 5:20 I had it in my hands, it's my first and this
Web page has been such a great help. The 505 looks great! So there my be 2 left at the Rochester OD on Jefferson Rd. I could not get the Memory
Card, if anyone knows if that is a official deal please let me know. They said for the 500 only, I picked up the game card for kicks and it works great.

BLT from Dansville

RE: Office Depot might have the m505 if you quote the SKU
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 4:44:57 PM #
how do you check the item by SKU then enter zip? went to their website and can't seem to be able to enter zip after searching for the item.

RCS 56th and Madison has 2 left

alee @ 5/2/2001 4:34:03 PM #
My friend just did me the ultimate favor and picked up 2 m505 at the RCS store on Madison.
2 more sitting there. I have a nice FedEx package heading my way. Should be in my
hands tomorrow morning.

FWIW, the Office Depot in Plymouth Meeting, PA (Phila area) has no idea when they're
coming in. They gave me a blank look when I went in and asked them. I called twice
today and went in as well.

-Al

If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 4:55:20 PM #
The new Sony Clie is shipping on May 28, and Sony ALWAYS Ships in large quantities. We know the m505 won't be here unntil May 22, so for waiting LESS then a week you get a product that is SOO much better!!!

RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:00:21 PM #
but what if i don't want a heavy, 256 color, $500 mp3 player??

i think i'll take the m505 thanks

RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:14:40 PM #
Yep. Me too, I'll stick with my IIIc if I want Sony Clie. MP3? No thanks! I already have MD player. Anyway, when the HELL are 505s coming to California? I hate waiting.

RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 8:13:39 PM #
The Palm M505 weighs 5.2 oz
The Sony clie N710 weighs 5.6 oz

Not a huge difference in weight.

Plus the Clie screen demolishes the M505. I have seen them side by side.

You M505 zealots better hang on to that receipt...

RE: If the m505 is May 22, why not wait for Clie: May 28
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:00:49 PM #
Because they're not quoting a May 28th Date anymore!!

Good luck if you think it was only the first batch
that will be shipped on May 28th and that the rest
will ship soon after - it may be a very long wait...

from the sonystyle.com site when you click on "buy":

"Product Availability: Backordered. Shipping date not available. Please select a different item or submit your order for this item and we will notify you via email upon shipment. You may cancel this order at any time prior to shipment."


Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:38:43 PM #
OD in Lawrenceville, GA (suburb of Atlanta) had 9 this afternoon in 'lock-up'

Reserved mine and picked it up just now.
It is currently on the charger...

Screen is a little duller than I'd have hoped, but with the front light on it's sweet!

I'm still 'evaluating'.

I don't see any 'alarm manager' though...and can't figure how to get the LED to blink or the thing to vibrate. Maybe it has to be off the cradle for that.

We will see.

Adam

RE: Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:07:19 PM #
The vibrating alarm should be under preferences/general (if it's like M500) :)

RE: Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:11:07 PM #
Regarding the blinking/vibrating alert...

I took a look at an m500 at a CompUSA, and it was an option in the General tab of the Preferences app.

RE: Atlanta, GA Office Depot - just picked up m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:06:40 PM #
You're a true American, yep, it was there. You saved me a "little" time finding it... Thanks

RE: Alarm Manager: Where is it?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:34:07 PM #
You know, I can't find the "Alarm Manager," either. I've done a lot of playing with an M500 in Staples while waiting for my M505 and I easily found the LED and vibrating alarm preferences, but I've not seen hide nor hair of this "Alarm Manager" outside of Palm's Palm OS 4.0 website. I've even played with the 4.0 ROMS in the Palm Emulator and found nothing. Anyone have any thoughts?

Still waiting for the M505 to appear in Ithaca, NY! 8-)

Vibrating and LED alarms
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:38:41 PM #
in case this hasn't been verified yet...you have to turn on the vibrating and led functions on in the prefrences/general menu

sorry of the repeat if this has been answered already!

just got my m505 :)

Palm are still quoting 7-14 days & No M505's in the Bay Area

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:44:23 PM #
The official answer from Palm so far that the "manufacturer has shipped to some stores but not to Palm yet". Boy ... if I was Palm I would be having strong words with thier "manufacturer". Right now this is REALLY damaging Palms reputation.

I also called around some Office Depots here in the Bay Area and there is nothing here yet expect m500's...no m505's.

Almost makes you want to buy an iPAQ....sorry...I'll wash my mouth out with Soap and Bill Gates.

RE: Palm are still quoting 7-14 days & No M505's in the Bay Area
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:54:28 PM #
OD San Jose claims they will receive them for sale on the 13th May. I had to use SKU 749241 for them to look it up. I'd love to know why all but the West Coast (or CA) has received the M505 so far. Anyone clued in??

Puzzled?


RE: M505 photos on TPUG
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:05:38 PM #
You mean they got the unit in Thailand already. I gotta move back there :)

RE: M505 photos on TPUG
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:43:02 PM #
The pictures are nice but the review is not even in DAMN english!!! :(

RE: M505 photos on TPUG
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:45:12 PM #
Yep ... This sucks. Thailand gets the Palm m505 before Silly Valley (Silicon Valley).

I ALSO HAVE AN M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 5:55:10 PM #
I've been listening to you guys coming down hard on the other guy that also has one. Well I just got mine from Office Depot today in Wichita, KS. Only 3 came in and mine was held because I requested it several weeks in advance and have been the "squeeky wheel" too. Looks cool!

Desktop Upgrade Pain

aleclee @ 5/2/2001 6:08:49 PM #
Got mine this a.m. at the OD in Aurora, CO. I was running PilotMirror to sync w/ Outlook. Unfortunately, the version I got with my Palm V said it didn't work with OS versions > 3.x. A new & improved version is available on the CD, though it's kinda buried under the palm desktop software.

I'm still glad to have my new toy. :)

Any one in AZ know any place available yet?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:35:22 PM #
I went in to 2 Staples and they have no idea when the shipment day will be, how sad.
I p*ss of at Palm and cancel my preorder with them this morning. At least Staple give me a free game card.

RE: Any one in AZ know any place available yet?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 6:43:19 PM #
I did called OD (3 of them) in Tucson, AZ and they didn't know anything either. I'll probably go and get the ipaq :-((

RE: Any one in AZ know any place available yet?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:58:11 PM #
They are here!! I got mine at CompUSA 76 Ave and Bell. They had 10 in! Good luck!

Use the SKU!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:01:35 PM #
I just got mine at the OD in Silver Spring, MD. You must mention the SKU 749241, or they will say it's not in.

Bander

p.s. Yay! Charging now, but it's beautiful!


Palm m505 vs. iPaq

dteky @ 5/2/2001 7:08:43 PM #

Office Depot in Marietta, GA

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 7:57:30 PM #

Got one there this evening 5/2 -- guy said they have three more. 119 N. Cobb Pkwy, Marietta, GA


Just got my m505 at Office Depot with a free 16mb SD Card

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 9:42:46 PM #
Just got back from Office Depot with my m505. I asked for it by SKU# at the Bellevue, WA store. After the dude looked it up, i asked him if they were giving a free card away with it. He went into an office for a few minutes and then came back and told me they were including the 16mb card too!

Anyway, it's sitting on the charger right now but before I did I had to see the screen for myself. The color is a little washed out but with the backlight on it's pretty good. But don't take my word for it..see it for yourself.

btw, while i was at OD, I watched theguy punch in the sku and the m505's info popped up. OD's cost is for the palm is like 360 or something like that.

Hope you're all enjoying/will be enjoying your palm!

Thanks for the help Palm Infocenter!



$360? my company . . .
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2001 10:27:59 PM #
. . . get's them at $379 for resale! how the h*** do they get 'em that cheap?

RE: Just got my m505 at Office Depot with a free 16mb SD Card
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 1:23:16 AM #
They are nationwide and sell thousands of them so Palm gives them a price break. How many do you think they sold today alone. Probably all they had.

Staple Preorder

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 8:14:10 AM #
I preorder though Staples and they where going to ship the M505's out on the 10th. But after seeing a comment on this board about them not shipping to the 21st, I called them up to ask.
They verified they would ship them out on the 21st and I asked about why thy said the 10th on the preorder. Well to sum things up I canceled my preorder and they refunded my money.
Figure the way things are going I'm better off trying to snag one from the stores.

Any sighting in Canada ???

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 10:09:12 AM #
Future Shop or Staples ???
or ANYTHINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I am talking about the M-505... Not the 500.


RE: Any sighting in Canada ???
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:50:28 PM #
Got one this afternoon.

2 of the 3 Staples stores in London, Ont have them (in the back, not on display yet). Future shop is still saying mid May.



Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 11:10:49 AM #
okay, this is getting redundent, both OD and Staples in CA are still clueless. "next week and mid-month are their answers. what's up with this?
to ease the hassle, i ordered from OD by phone, they said 3 day deliverly- promise...

might as well re-order my pre-order from palm, might get it faster here in palms backyard...(not)...

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 11:34:18 AM #
I live in BayArea and tried ordering from OD on-line and the system won't let me order one. Any ideas?

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 11:39:57 AM #
i called OD @ 1-888-463-3768 and spoke with a human.
they said it's in stock and will ship w/in 3 days- you're looking at a tues. del. if you order now.
it's coming from the fremont csc warehouse.
try that, it seemed to work for me, i ordered yesterday,
and called back today- they said it in process should receive fri.(tommorrow) or mon. latest.
i must have faith...i must believe...

ps ask them to check which warehouse is closest to you and check stock before placing order.also mention sku#.


RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:32:22 PM #
Actually.. I have already tried the route of ordering online. I ended up have a rep calling back me telling me that although they show 400 units in stock in the fremont warehouse. But they cannot sell to us yet. So I highly doubt that you can receive it tomorrow or on Monday. But definitely keep us posted if you do. :)



M505 IN SAN DIEGO, CA!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 1:02:24 PM #
Just wanted to let you know that I picked up a m505 in OD San Diego (858-558-2222).

Fresh off the truck! sweet!

The West was not forgotten (at least for not too long!)

Gonna charge it up and get on with my life finally!
Thanks for all the great posts!
this site rules!

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 1:19:22 PM #
Did you get a free 16mb card too?

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 1:20:09 PM #
lucky dog, i guess palm thinks that it's closest
customers can wait the longest...
have fun!!
wish the rest of us luck...

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 1:56:03 PM #
Man.. so it San Diego has it now.. does that mean Bay Area can have it anytime?

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:12:37 PM #
Nope, I did not get a free 16 mb card with mine when i bought it at the san diego od. i asked, and they said it was for the m500...well, i'll wait for promotional stuff to appear and ask later!

i hope you guys in nor cal get it soon!

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:50:02 PM #
I just got one at OD in Los Gatos, CA. They said it was their last one. They wouldn't give me the SD card, but said if an ad came out for it they would honor it. (it's just for the M500).
They're out there. Good luck everyone!

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:56:09 PM #
OD in San Rafael, Ca got 3 today. I have one on hold. Manager's name is James. Just wanted to let you know. Very exciting.

Southern California Orange County
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 3:06:50 PM #
I got one in South Orange County this am just as it was hitting the store (Office Depot).
They are finally in Southern California.

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 3:12:50 PM #
Can you be a little more specific than just south o.c.?

Palm M505 in the West!
skytraveler @ 5/3/2001 3:28:46 PM #
I called the OD distribution center in Torrance, CA and they had two left (they now have one). They will overnight deliver it to anyone in California free of charge! The number is 800-685-8800. The lady I spoke to also said they expect to get more in the next day or two.

Viva la Palm M505!!!

The SkyTraveler

RE: Any word on the forgotten 505 victims of the West?
joegomolski@microinteligence.com @ 5/3/2001 4:09:27 PM #
Just picked up my m505. I got mine at the Office Depot in Vista, they were sent 5. I also know that the Office Depot in Temecula has at least 1.

Yea! My life is complete, and I can now die a happy man!



More Specific
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 4:49:57 PM #
I got mine at OD in El Toro but they only had one left when I left. I'm sure at this point though that all those OD in OC have them by now. They ship from the same warehouse. I know for sure that the Fullerton OD was getting a shipment in today because they called me to let me know. There are probably still some there.

Re: M505 IN SAN DIEGO, CA!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:44:54 AM #
I stopped in Office Depot (Mission Valley store in San Diego) this evening, and was surprised to find they had a real, live m505 on display, which I greedily played with for the last ten minutes before they closed. I ended up deciding that it was really cool, but it didn't thrill me enough to take one home tonight. Anyway, just a heads up for anyone else in San Diego who wants to a chance to look before they leap...

Palm m505 in Toronto!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:03:00 PM #
Just picked mine up at the local Business Depot store (Front Street and Parliament (416) 368-3331) and it's sitting there charging on it's stand as I write.

Sadly up here, we don't get the same free SD card deal you've been getting in the US. Just an entry form for "a chance to win a BMW Z3". Which kind of sucks, unless of course I win the Bimmer!

Chris

Travel Charger?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:12:14 PM #
Has the travel charger or hotsync USB cable shown up anywhere?

Got m505 in New Jersey, free 16 Mb SD did not fly...

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:13:43 PM #
Got m505 in New Jersey, free 16 Mb SD did not fly...

RE: Got m505 in New Jersey, free 16 Mb SD did not fly...
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 1:15:13 PM #
Where in Jersey?

in Totowa (973)256-8020
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:11:53 PM #
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with the ODP and is not making any comissions...
Like everyone else in this board helping the ODP during those hard times...

m505's in Boston yet?

mikefoley @ 5/3/2001 12:24:04 PM #
Here in the greater Boston area, we don't have Office Depot's anymore. Hence, we can't join in the mad rush for the m505's. Other than ordering over the web, does anyone know of anyplace in the greater Boston area one can get a m505 this week?

thanks,

mike

RE: m505's in Boston yet?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 5:07:03 PM #
best buy cambridge go go go


RE: m505's in Boston yet?
mikefoley @ 5/3/2001 5:31:10 PM #
ARGH!

I gave up waiting and ordered from RCSeshop.com.

Damn.. I would have left right now.



mike

RE: m505's in Boston yet?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 12:40:57 PM #
Finally, after going to several bestbuy, staples and compusa,I bought mine yesterday at compusa in allston. They seem to have a few more left.

Office Depot

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:27:24 PM #
Guy's I figured for the hell of it I would call the 800 number for ordering the M505 from OD and talk to a rep and I am getting the Palm overnighted to me for no additional charge.
They said they are in stock. So give them a call and hopefully you too can get a palm overnight.


RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 12:46:52 PM #
Which number would that be?

1-888-GO-DEPOT (1-888-463-3768)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:35:42 PM #
This is the number I called

RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 3:40:37 PM #
I called the office depot customer care center and as of now they had three (I ordered once for overnight delivery) available. The number to call is 1-800-go-depot. DISCLAIMER: YOU MUST QUOTE THE SKU 279241 (someone correct me if I am wrong) in order for the CSR to pull it. I hate to say it that when you call you may deal with an incompetent representative because when I made the initial call yesterday the CSR had absolute NO clue what I was talking but the dot.com site has em.



RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 4:03:22 PM #
I just made an order from OD using this number as well. They said it was in stock, but would take 3 business days to ship
(they said they couldn't ship overnight because it was coming from the manufacturer or something like that).


RE: Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 5:59:47 PM #
The Item # I used was Item number: 749241

Free 16MB Expansion Card with M505 @ Office Depot

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:06:39 PM #
Got the M505 yesterday at Office Depot and used a coupon from Sunday's Houston newspaper for a free 16MB expansion card. There was a large Office Depot ad in the newspaper with the coupon. The coupon said "Free 16MB card with the purchase of M500" but they honored it when I bought the M505.

If you can find the coupons it's a savings of $50 + tax.


RE: Free 16MB Expansion Card with M505 @ Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 12:08:05 AM #
it's a savings of $40 plus tax. also, Staples was doing the same thing in NYC plus $20 off any purchase in the store over $100. so the m505 was $429 plus free 16MB Card. hope no one bought from that jerk selling his for $580 yesterday. what a jerk.

RE: Free 16MB Expansion Card with M505 @ Office Depot
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:50:12 AM #
Anyone have a scan of the coupon? I did not see it in Chicago..Thanks Ed

Nada at Staples Nor Cal

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:14:07 PM #
My preorder for m505 at Staples in North Calif did not come in and the computer mgr was upset. He called all the local stores and none have them. They are all upset. They don't know why they didn't ship. Next delivery is Sat. Called OD and they don't have them yet either.

This is suspicious.

RE: Nada at Staples Nor Cal
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 3:00:03 PM #
I got one of four M505s that were delivered to a south bay Office Depot this morning.



RE: Nada at Staples Nor Cal
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 3:44:21 PM #
>I got one of four M505s that were delivered to a south bay Office Depot this morning.

Which south bay OD?


BEST BUY??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:22:50 PM #
Is Office Depot and Staples the only places getting these things??

Does ANYONE know of a best buy in L.A. area that has the M505 yet?? I can only buy from Best Buy (so I can trade my Prism in, I have the PSP)

HELP! Thanks.

M505 In Naperville

geoken @ 5/3/2001 2:25:26 PM #
I just called the Naperville IL Office Depot and released the hold on the M505 they were holding for me. I guess that means that it's available for the taking. Rt 59 and Ogden Ave. 630-548-9973.
Good luck, George Kenney

505 IN LOS ANGELES!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 3:05:09 PM #

Just picked up M505 at Office Depot on Figueroa and 20th St. That is just north of USC and south of Staples Center (ironic?). Could not get the free 16mb card out of them, but I was able to get the free game card because that is what Staples offered. They have 2 left. Pasadena store did not get any in so far today.

finally in SF Bay Area!!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 5:36:56 PM #
finally got a 505 in SF OD,
geary @ masonic
i got one,
they have 1 left out of 3 that came in...

RE: finally in SF Bay Area!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 9:45:09 PM #
Also try San Leandro in the east bay. They had two left as of 2:00pm today.

Nor Cal -- Eureka!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 6:30:20 PM #
Eureka -- that's the Calif state motto meaning "I found it!" Sacramento area OD's have them but most are not selling them until Sunday, when the ad comes out. Got one after the shift change and the new manager must not have known about.

I think the gold miners had an easier time!

Got 1 in Vancouver, Canada

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 6:35:26 PM #
Downtown Staples (Business Depot) , they have 10 come in, mine is the 2nd. CAD$699+tax.

What is included in the Palm m505 box?

Fredric22 @ 5/3/2001 7:01:09 PM #
I have just ordered the palm m505 from J and R. The sales rep asked me if I wanted to buy a cradle for $50.00. Doesn't the cradle come inluded in the box?


RE: What is included in the Palm m505 box?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 7:15:34 PM #
yes it comes with a usb cradle...maybe he's asking you if you want a serial cradle?

RE: What is included in the Palm m505 box?
Fredric22 @ 5/3/2001 7:55:51 PM #
probably, what is the difference between the two?

RE: What is included in the Palm m505 box?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 7:57:48 PM #
one plugs into a usb port and the other plugs into the serial port

O.D.at Bailey's XRoads, VA has M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 9:08:39 PM #
Picked it up tonight. Another guy was picking one up to. I ordered it on the web site and then picked up later. I think that is the best approach because some of the employees there don't know what that have and don't have. The m505 was not on display, but the m500 was. Hope this helps.

What about CDW?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 10:57:28 PM #
Does anyone know when CDW (Computer Discount Warehouse) will be getting their shipment in? Any info would be appreciated.

RE: What about CDW?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 11:00:34 PM #
Sorry forgot to specify that I'm talking about the m505. WHAT ELSE...right?! :-)

Just got a M505 (Defective?)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 3:07:29 PM #
Hey guys,

I just got the M505 and I tried using the IR port from the Palm III to beam things over to the M505 and It seems that if they are both flat on the desk pointing to each other they can't see each other but if I raise one on an angle it will beam.
Is this normal or defective?

SD Card usage and IIIc Comparison

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:53:48 PM #
Ok side by side with my IIIc. Outside, in bright sunlight, 505 kicks butt, even with IIIc at top brightness. In dimmer house light, 505 pretty much has to have backlight on, whereas IIIc, brightness can be turned down to about 1/6 on slider scale. IIIc looks better IMHO in the dimmer lighting. In darkness, the IIIc still looks better, (colours more vivid) but the lit up graffiti area of the 505 is really helpful. I use mine mostly at work, where there are 300+ flourescents (I work in QC) so the 505 will probably be better for me. I usually have to turn the IIIc up to about 1/2 to 3/4 brightness there.

Alarm on 505 is maybe 10-20% louder. 505 is not quite 3/4" shorter, and a little thinner, lighter too. The vibrating alarm is not super strong, nowhere near my StarTAC phone vibration. You might not feel it in a suit pocket, but you'd likely feel it if it was closer to your body in a pants pocket or shirt pocket if you dared.


On to the SD card. Beamed over a few apps from my IIIc. Tried "Froggy" game. Copied it onto expansion card then deleted app from main memory. Game worked fine, but would write its highscore/preferences database to main memory every time. Tried copying the db to expansion card, then deleting from main memory, and it would not remember the high scores or prefs I had set. Tried again, and set the expansion card "protection lock slider" to lock. Deleted db in main memory, and same situation, didn't remember any highscores or settings.
Not quite sure whats going on here.
The manual for the exp. card mentions setting up different directories for apps/dbs/pics etc when using a card reader/writer. Maybe this would make some difference. Its hard to say, as I don't have any SD card "aware" apps yet, or a reader/writer.

Card does not report correct memory usage. Reported 32k then 48k used with nothing else on card. Then with 166k FireViewer on there, reported 240kb used. Oh yeah, card only reports 14.0 Meg total when empty, not 16M. After deleting fireviewer, CardInfo now reports 64k used, with no apps whatsoever on card. This keeps getting higher and higher in 16k increments. Whats going on here? After reformatting the card, drops back down to 32k though.

Removing card turns unit back on, and makes it beep?

Anyone know what HypT-View, RootObj-View, LMCache-View are? They're listed in the handheld Info screen.



Got my m505 today in Atlanta, GA

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/7/2001 3:41:30 PM #
from the Office Depot store on Piedmont Road in Atlanta, GA. I got the last unit, and a 16mb SD card (they charged me for the card, and did not want to give me the offer available for the m500: they said Palm was giving the 16mb card for free with the m500 only to boost its sales).

My m505 unit is manufactured in the USA, its screen looks fine, no defect, and it is now charging: I just opened the box: simply beautiful.

Shipping date from Palm to Office Depot (mentioned on the package) was May 6, yesterday: they just arrived at Office Depot today.

I happily canceled my Palm store order :-)
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