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She also said her company wasn't ready to predict when sales would rebound. "Our visibility as to when sales will pick up is fairly limited."
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Why Palm Shipped First to Stores
I'm not sure why PC Data only counts retail sales. Maybe they don't trust companies to honestly report sales from their own stores. But it really skews the results. Most iPaqs are bought straight from Compaq so they hardly make a blip on PC Data's charts.
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RE: Why Palm Shipped First to Stores
Not wanting to lose that (the MAJORITY) market, Palm has since shipped FIRST to retail channels and 2ND to online stores and filled their own web orders.
This isn't a recent change. This is the third (or maybe fourth) year that if you want a unit fast you avoid buying one direct from Palm via their store.
Duh!
a) they announced new products in March (500 and 505) and
b) didn't ship anything till May!
They basically threw their April away because we were all waiting for the new models. If they had any brains they would have announced the new models on March 19 and shipped them April 1. That would have secured a pretty monster summer for them.
They even might have sold a few more of the old models in April when people started flooding the stores.
Maybe they'll get it together for the 700 series launch.... or maybe not!
RE: Duh!
It should be a mystery to NOBODY why sales were slow in April. And I'll bet I can predict when
sales will improve: May! The PalmPilot mailing list is buzzing with folks who have been
rushing out to Office Depot to get their m505. These are most likely the "early adopters" who
will be the guinea pigs for the rest of us. If the screen turns out to be acceptible, sales will
skyrocket. Of course, the way Palm has been doing things recently, they will be caught off
guard and will build a huge backorder for these things. They'll be elated at the sales rebound,
but will lose stock value because they will report "parts shortages" because they didn't think
far enough ahead to build enough, and now they can't get parts fast enough to build more.
Just a guess here, but I'll wouldn't be surprised if this actually happened.
palm is going down
RE: palm is going down
RE: palm is going down
The reports I've seen in the last few days are a testament to this. The m500 and m505 are average at best. I'm tired of people convincing themselves that these PDAs are great simply because they're made by Palm.
The Palm OS is a great thing because it's shared with so many developers. Palm would rather have 10% of a $1000 pie over 100% of nothing.
Keep up the good programming, Palm. It's the only thing you've got going for you in this market.
RE: palm is going down
YOU JUST DID!!!
RE: palm is going down
PocketPC is going down
Palm advertises it has some something like 10 million units. Microsoft has about 10% of the market and they make about $10 per unit in licence fees. So MS has about $10 million in revenue in about 5 years. I wish I knew how much money they'd spent developing and advertising CE/PPC over the years but I'd bet you dollars to donuts that it was way, way over $10 million.
Microsoft has a lot of money but they can't afford to fund every struggling product forever. Remember Microsoft Bob? They will kill failing products.
Sometimes it doesn't matter how good the product is. If it isn't successful in the marketplace, it dies.
-RobZombie
RE: palm is going down
Palm has made a series of unbelievable blunders over the past two years, and in particular over the past 4 months. They are using relatively primitive equipment that has not been significantly updated in 4 years. The Sony CLIE N710C is the only new PalmOS PDA worth buying, and may end up being what saves Palm from extinction.
Palm makes about 5% of its revenues from OS licensing, so people who suggest they can afford to get out of the hardware business don't nnow what they are talking about. Going through their models, we have:
m100 - entry level, low markup, minimal profit but high sales.
m105 - modest markup, good sales.
IIIc - lower markup (prices recently slashed in an attempt to clear out remaining inventory before m505 release), poor sales.
Vx - high markup, good sales but sales decreased after m50x announcements and now will be discontinued, leaving millions of dollars lost in unsold inventory.
VIIx - high markup, low sales, needed to keep a preliminary wireless strategy going. Will be abandoned in 2 months when m700 series released, using a different wireless strategy.
m500 - high markup, low sales predicted by industry experts.
m505 - high markup, high sale had been predicted, however this is now in question due to Palm's miscalculations regarding relative importance of screen contrast/brightness vs. battery life. (Most customers would have chosen a nicer screen at the expense of battery life, but Palm marketers seemed to be very concerned that their PDAs were becoming more similar to PocketPCs in terms of battery life.)
Palm is losing millions daily and recently cancelled plans for an extravagant new headquarters (what were they thinking?). Silicon Valley is slumping and a lot of naysayers have made self-fulfilling prophecies about sales, which have (overnight) slaughtered Palm's stock price. (Makes you wonder if Gates pays these "analysts" that have been slamming Palm...)
Now factor into this the price war that is about to be waged among manufacturers, and you'll see Palm, Inc. isn't in a very good position. The fact that they have survived despite years of mismanagement is a testament to the brilliance of the original design and the elegance of the Palm OS.
Microsoft is the most powerful company in the world and could have easily bought Palm with the money Gates has in his "petty cash" jar. What's surprising is that they haven't yet started flooding the market with
inexpensive (subsidized) PocketPCs to gain market share. In any event, with the release of the new PocketPC4, they might start showing Palm how aggressive Microsoft can be when they decide to play hardball. Palm is wounded and hemorrhaging cash profusely. It would be very unlike Microsoft to not
seize this opportunity to move in for the kill.
I have read rumors that either Sony or Microsoft will be buying Palm this year. The way things are going for Palm, they may soon be of no concern to Microsoft.
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Why does everyone automatically assume PocketPC will be around forever? Microsoft has been pouring money into the platform for at least 5 years now and I strongly doubt they've made any money on it yet.
Palm advertises it has some something like 10 million units. Microsoft has about 10% of the market and they make about $10 per unit in licence fees. So MS has about $10 million in revenue in about 5 years. I wish I knew how much money they'd spent developing and advertising CE/PPC over the years but I'd bet you dollars to donuts that it was way, way over $10 million.
Microsoft has a lot of money but they can't afford to fund every struggling product forever. Remember Microsoft Bob? They will kill failing products.
Sometimes it doesn't matter how good the product is. If it isn't successful in the marketplace, it dies.
-RobZombie
RE: palm is going down
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Write off?
I have high-hopes, though, that they'll donate the written-off units to schools or other charities that can make use of them. As long as the units don't atually go to waste.
-Greg