Comments on: Sony to Announce New Handheld at CeBIT (Updated)

At a pre-CeBIT press conference earlier this week, Sony said it was going to unveil a new handheld, the T770, according to ZDnet Germany. Almost no details were given, other than it would have the enhanced infrared port that's on the rest of the T series. It also said it would be announcing 256 MB Memory Sticks.

Some educated guesses can be made just from the name of the new handheld. Obviously, this will be part of the T series. Almost all of the handhelds Sony has introduced lately have had 16 MB of RAM.

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Slim Factor + MP3 Player

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:11:54 AM #
This makes so much sense if they are gonna release a T series based factor with mp3 player built in. that's why they've dropped tne price of N760c

Hopefully it would be more interesting thatn that, but then again...

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:16:08 AM #
I hope its a high resolution screen, with color, and hopefully, these sources are wrong.

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:18:55 AM #
Personally, I prefer the prototype that SONY showed in PalmSource 2002. The foldable/Rotatable LCD is just nice.

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:23:39 AM #
hmmm, if that is the case, I'll dump my N760C. I like the T-series form factor, but love the built-in MP3 (use it a lot), it has replaced my MD player.

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:25:09 AM #
sweet!

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:38:58 AM #
"...it has replaced my MD player."

I too have a Sony MD Player and wondering how the battery life on the 760 is when playing music, PIM stuff, etc. This release could be a killer release.

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 12:47:45 PM #
Actually, I got a Sony MD player BECAUSE the battery life on the 760 wasn't enough for music AND PIM stuff.

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 2:17:21 PM #
I agree. A friend of mine has the 760 and said the battery life for the audio player was not too great. I opted instead for the N610C and still use my trusty MD player for digital audio.

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 2:39:12 PM #
Off-Topic: Talking about Sony products, have anyone of your heard / seen the Sony Ericsson Palm-like cell phone coming out Q3 2002? I heard it is running Symbol's OS with pretty much similiar to the size the Nokia's one. I'm waiting for that...

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 2:53:25 PM #
You mean Symbian right? Symbian 7.0 isn't
really supported much by other developers.
I don't understand why Sony/Ericcsson doesn't
just make a Clie-GSM phone.

Now THAT I'd buy in an instant.


RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
james_sorenson @ 3/6/2002 3:00:44 PM #
A Clie cell-phone?
The communication of the Handspring Treo mixed with the high-resolution screen, MP3-player, and memory-expansion of the Clie series?

Good Lord, I hope someone from Sony sees that post. I'd pay a great deal for something that incredible! I'm sick of feeling like Batman with all these devices on my belt.

Oh, and I know that the Visor Prism with the VisorPhone is close, but I don't like that you have to pull the Visor out of the case, remove the cell-phone module, and plug in the memory module to access documents. I should be able to plug in a memory card and forget about it.

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RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 5:23:03 PM #
Well, I heard that N760 can play mp3 for about 10 hours when the screen is off. Isn't it good enough for everyday use?

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 5:27:18 PM #
Today on Pdabuzz.com there was an article about the Sony Ericson PDA/Phone/Camera announced to run Symbion 7 by Q3 2002. As a former Psion 3a user, the OS looks really cool and I like the device consolidation, but the mockup phone shown is made of a bunch of colored plastic like a bondi blue iMac. Not my taste, but I guess Apple sold a load of them.

RE: Slim Factor + MP3 Player
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 5:47:37 PM #
Need to see the thing in real action b4 making decisions, Overall I am glad that finally Symbian/PSION is making a comeback. It would be great to see how things goes.

IT'S NOT NEW PALMS, IT'S NEW PHONES!!!!!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/8/2002 1:30:57 PM #
IT'S NOT NEW PALMS, IT'S NEW PHONES!!!!!!!
Posted by: I.M. Anonymous @ 3/8/2002 1:07:35 PM

PLEASE LOOK AT THIS WESITE
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cebit/

Sorry folkes,
(Wah Wah)

These are the only new ones they are offering!

What more could you want?

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:17:40 AM #
So, what could reasonably be expected to be added to a T615C besides MP3 to make it more compelling?

RE: What more could you want?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:20:42 AM #
good question

RE: What more could you want?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:22:47 AM #
Built in Bluetooth ... ;-)

RE: What more could you want?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:23:43 AM #
RE: What more could you want?
Ed @ 3/6/2002 11:26:49 AM #
When I talked to the Sony people right after that folding handheld with the built-in keyboard had been shown off at PalmSource, they flat out said that was a non-working mock-up that might never see the light of day. I hope it does but I don't expect to see it before fall. Still, we can dream.

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RE: What more could you want?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:50:52 AM #
The Dragonball VZ Super 66Mhz and a virtual graffiti area (320x480 pixels!!!). Get rid of those nasty app and scroller buttons. Please!!!

RE: What more could you want?
mtg101 @ 3/6/2002 12:07:27 PM #
I can only assume that the T770 will be a derivitive of the T-series - so there won't be too much new. But then again... you never know with Sony.

Virtual Grafitti? I doubt it. It would be odd to do that in the middle of a series of handhelds.

Better buttons? I doubt it - I assume it'll have the same form factor as the rest of the T-series.

MP3 - given the naming similarity - this seems probable.

Bluetooth - could be - many other EU Sony products have builtin bluetooth.

66Mhz chip - well - the N7X0 series has always been the bigest best Clie - so I guess this is a maybe...

The form-factor previewed at PalmSource? (the long screen / flip top). Well - it would kick ass. It would probably also have virtual graffiti given the longer screen.

Personally I hope it's not too good - I can't aford to upgrade just yet! :-S

Cheers
Russell


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RE: What more could you want?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 5:07:15 PM #
What more? Simply an M515 with sound (+headphones jack), hires, virtual graffiti and 66Mhz. That is my dream PalmOS 4 machine. I like sony's features but I definitely dislike the look.

RE: What more could you want?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 5:19:34 PM #
Yeah and the next one is an IPAQ 3870 hardware running PalmOS 5.

MS

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:24:15 AM #
256mb Memory stick is great - but where is the BT Infostick?

When the Ericsson BT phone is in my hands - will sony be ready with the Infostick??

RE: MS
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:39:58 AM #
Yeah, whatever happened to the MS Infostick?!?!?!?! It was supposed to be released a long time ago. It never even appeared in Japan, did it? I'm starting to wonder if it will EVER be available. >=(

BT spec
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 12:13:31 PM #
Perhaps they were waiting for the latest spec or they don't like this one and will release on 1.2 Bluetooth spec. Either way, they had a MS BT back at CES two years ago. The release of this MS would really help them into the World market as handhelds are talking to cell phones without wires... except Sony.

RE: MS
mtg101 @ 3/6/2002 12:16:05 PM #
Yes - where is the InfoStick?????????????

Over here in the EU there are loads of phones with BT in them (Nokia 6310, /// R520m, T39, T68), and most of them can be got for under 100 euros on a contract.

Also Sony has got BT into many other EU products - laptops and cameras... it's about time it came to the Clie!

The InfoStick hasn't appeared in Japan - but there a clip-on device for one of the Clie series to add BT functionality.


Cheers
Russell

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RE: MS
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 1:49:14 PM #
Funny thing that.

I'm on my second bluetooth phone (first T39, now T68) and am already planning to replace it with another SonyEricsson bluetooth phone. Yet, still no Palm os pda with integrated bluetooth.

RE: MS
Xian @ 3/6/2002 2:17:43 PM #
Not integrated, no. But you can buy the BT SDIO card for the newer Palms.

RE: MS
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 6:48:56 PM #
Yup, the BT SDIO card rocks! I got mine this week here in Australia and have been using it with my T39 and the Seiko Thumbboard to use ICQ and AIM on m515, along with emails and SMS! I'm one happy camper now! Oh yeah, I'm doing all that over GPRS which is not a fast as the telco's would have you believe but is faster and more convenient that GSM CSD!

Sony Bluetooth Infostick receives BT Qualification/Palm
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/7/2002 3:30:23 AM #
Palm product manager David Christopher said the company decided not to build the Bluetooth radios into the devices in order to keep down the costs of the products.

But he also said: "2002 is going to be the year for Bluetooth," Christopher said.

Palm Bluetooth (SD) card cuts wires
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t294-s2104780,00.html

Sony Bluetooth stick soon here?
By: Jørgen Sundgot, 05.02.02 11:00

Sony has just recently gained qualification from the Bluetooth SIG for a product referred to as the "Infostick", which is a name that was mentioned back when Sony started promising a Bluetooth Memory Stick expansion module back in late 2001. However, the Infostick is listed under the product category Comp-HW-Integrated, which could indicate that the module is also targeted to be an integral part of new products from Sony - which again could indicate handhelds in the CLIE series showing up with integrated Bluetooth, particuarly with Sony's current pace of churning out new models.
http://www.infosync.no/news/newsbits/show.php?id=1404

Bluetooth Qualified Product: Infostick Infostick Sony Corporation Components Comp-HW-Integrated 2002-01-30
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/Template.cfm?LinkQualified=QualifiedProducts&Details=Yes&ProductID=603

3 Sony Bluetooth Products have been Qualified recently:
-Modem Adaptor with Bluetooth Function BTA-NWP Sony Corporation Computer accessory PROD 2002-03-04
-Chatpen CHA-30 KRY 10 50 15 Sony Ericsson Handheld devices PROD 2002-03-01
-PEGA-MSB1 HCCBTHA11 Sony Corporation Accessory PROD 2002-02-28
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/Template2.cfm?LinkQualified=QualifiedProducts

Memory Stick gets SanDisk boost
http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=570

Bluetooth for the CLIEs
http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=447


The Memory Stick and Secure Digital cards are quite important for two key reasons. The most obvious is its small size. This allows vendors who use it to create devices that can be smaller.

But another key reason is that with large industry backing, which includes the inclusion of a Memory Card or SD card reader in everything from laptops to VCRs, DVDs, TVs, MP3 players and even next generation integrated home entertainment consoles, these cards can be used to transfer data among these mostly incompatible devices and in a way serves as a data transfer common denominator.
http://www.anywhereyougo.com/bluetooth/Article.po?id=2307977



ZDNet probably made a mistake

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:23:56 AM #
I guess ZDNet got it wrong. The Articel tells no details besides the remote thing. The FinancialTimes Germany http://www.ftd.de/sp/hi/1014398836005.html?nv=5wn and other Newspapers also mention a new Sony Handheld - but they all refer to the T625C which has been in the shops for just a couple of days.

Phil
Oldenburg, Germany

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:27:39 AM #
True: Also the german www.sony.de website only presents the T-425 and the T-625 as Cebit 2002 highlights !!

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:35:11 AM #
How the heck can someone say "T615C" and the ZDnet reporter hear "T770"? Do those two sound a lot closer in German than they do in English?

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:38:53 AM #
Nope, they don´t sound alike. They probably just mixed it up. As I said before the ZDnet article does´t mention anything else but the enhanced remote controll and no one else has this news about a T770. I´m still only guessing but this seems to be a mistake.

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:42:48 AM #
ZDnet writes:

Als weitere Highlights der Messe preist Sony Memory Sticks mit 256 MByte Kapazität an sowie den Clie T 770 als einzigen PDA, dessen Infrarot-Schnittstelle zur Steuerung von Fernseher, Hifi-Anlage oder Garagentor geeignet ist.

My translation (just a try):

As other highlights of the fare (CEBIT) Sony praises a Sony Memory Stick with 256 MByte capazity and the Clie T 770 as the ONLY PDA thats infrared port allows you to controll a tv-set, a sound system and a garage door.

The fact that they write "the only PDA with an enhanced infrared..." shows at least that they never heard of the T625C.


Phil

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 12:20:53 PM #
I agree - a definate mistake.

Probably happened like this:

"following on from the color N770 - sony will be showing a nother color hi res model the T625"

The guy who wrote the report got mixed up and remembered the letter T and the number 770.

Trust me SONY.DE are always well behind the times... I live in Germany and we the T625 only just made it into the shops this week.
They have NO NEW CLIES to premiere at Cebit, I am sure of that.

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 12:20:56 PM #
I'm not suggesting this is not possible, but this goes against the prior pattern for Sony.

Sony usually release the domestic model (Japanese) first before it release the model for anything else. That has been true for N series as well as T series.

Perhpas more likely labels would be T755 for Japan, T765 for US and T775 for Europe?

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
mtg101 @ 3/6/2002 12:26:13 PM #
How about... the T770 is the only PDA that can:

1 - control a TV - Infrared
2 - IS a music system
3 - control garage doors - Bluetooth?

hehe... wishful thinking maybe...

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RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 12:31:29 PM #
good translation....
:-)

i'd go with it....

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 12:36:28 PM #
thanks :-)

Phil

RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 8:13:36 PM #
T625C = T615C (Sell in Europe)

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[Czzii]

Can't wait....

Kaitou @ 3/6/2002 11:37:46 AM #
T770.. about time really. I may end up trading in my 760 for it. should be a sweet pda.

Sony Strikes Back!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:37:58 AM #
NT

T Series Memory

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 11:57:21 AM #
Uh, correction to the top article...All T series do not have 16MB, the T415 has only 8MB.

RE: T Series Memory
mtg101 @ 3/6/2002 12:23:43 PM #
mmmm.... 8... 16.... 32MiB for the T770???

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RE: T Series Memory
Ed @ 3/6/2002 3:46:17 PM #
Thanks, I corrected the article.

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Wireless?

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 12:40:46 PM #
I am really tempted by the recent color Sony Clies, but they still seem to be missing the biggest application I am holding out for....wireless modems.

I know they made that one wireless thing that was some sort of adaptor for a wireless PC Card modem for the greyscale Clie, but I haven't heard of anything for the color Clies.

I would buy a Clie in a second if there was a good wireless option for it.....currently I have a Palm Vx with an OmniSky wireless modem, but I would really like to move to something more modern.

Has anyone heard anything?

RE: Wireless?
mtg101 @ 3/6/2002 12:52:21 PM #
One solution would be for Sony to release the InfoStick - then you can use a BT phone as your wireless modem. That way you don't have to clip a huge thing onto your PDA to connect to be online.



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RE: Wireless?
robrecht @ 3/6/2002 1:24:41 PM #
Amen regarding SONY & wireless options! I would also like a good option for a POTS modem for those times when I am not getting good wireless coverage. If these were available, I would buy a SONY today. Otherwise I'll wait for Palm to go hi-res or Handera to go color. Hope to have hi-res in time to show off my new baby pics!

Thanks, Robrecht
RE: Wireless?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 2:47:17 PM #
Actually that is sort of interesting, I wasn't sure if the Minstrel for the new m5xx series would work with the new 515 or not. It's interesting to hear that it is an option. I personally have been pretty happy with my current Vx and Minstrel V, so this may be the most natural thing for me to progress to.

I think I may wait until the color Handspring treos come out though, and see what kind of option that may be.

RE: Wireless?
fperkins @ 3/6/2002 2:59:40 PM #
Im dying for a Sony wireless device too. Pda, mp3 and wireless all ine one pda. *drool*

RE: Wireless?
DannyLee312 @ 3/6/2002 3:00:27 PM #
you know the new treos are really cool, but however, it will rack up a nice amount on your phone bill if you know what i mean....and yeah, it's a great way to get critical info on the fly, especially when you can access almost anything that is online...i too also have the minstrel V for the Palm Vx, that too also was great, but however, once you go color, you'll never go back---->no offense to the monochrome users (i once too used a Palm Vx for 2 years, and i still think that its a great machine!)

just my 2 cents

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RE: Wireless?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 6:09:43 PM #
It gets worse. The Sony Clie "T" models can't do internet data comms at all. This is because there is no cable available. The stupid Sony design requires special electronics inside the cable. There is no clip-on modem available, either. You have to wait undil May for thesupplynet.com to begin shipping their cellphone cables. I haven't seen a modem cable anywhere.

Stupid Sony.

RE: Wireless?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 7:14:36 PM #
Infra-red if you have that in your phone too.

RE: Wireless?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 7:42:37 PM #
"I personally have been pretty happy with my current Vx and Minstrel V, so this may be the most natural thing for me to progress to."

This is exactly what I did during the weekend, and I'm very happy with my decision.
The minstrel 500 series is even better (and lighter) than the V model, and the 515 screen is the best Palm color screen ever. I could simply continue my verizon wireless plan at $24.75 per month for unlimited access, the best deal on the market as far as I know.



Pics

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 1:31:28 PM #
Ed, we are counting on you to find us some pics before March 13th! You haven't let us down yet.

RE: Pics
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 6:31:41 PM #
OOPS!

Could this be....?

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 3:01:26 PM #
I'm wondering.. could this handheld be equipped with the rumoured 66mhz dragonball cpu?

To me, it would almost have to be, otherwise the unit would be the same as the 615 but with built-in mp3. The older 610/710/760 fiasco caused a lot of confusion, as the 7xx models were identical to the 610 but included mp3 playback.

I think sony almost has to up the ante to distungish their products from one another. If they want to compete with the PocketPC, they're gonna need to add more horsepower.

Your thoughts?


RE: Could this be....?
pontif @ 3/6/2002 3:57:02 PM #
Anyone willing to bet that a T770 is a T625 with the audio adapter bundled in the box?

N760C is nearly perfect

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 3:28:24 PM #
I have a N760C and it's a very fine product. There are only a few features that other units have that I wish the N760C had:

1) 16 MB RAM instead of 8 MB.

2) Enhance IR port.

3) Vibrating alarm.

4) Better scroll buttons.

It's nice & small (OK, maybe they come even smaller now, but it's fine for me as is). Of course a faster CPU would be great, but they aren't shipping those in any Palm OS handheld yet.

This new model would have to have everything that's good about the N760C plus at least 3 of the above 4 things for me to consider selling my unit to buy it.


RE: N760C is nearly perfect
Rellik @ 3/6/2002 10:18:02 PM #
I think the speed is enough, you can overclock to 54mhz and have all the speed you want. Datebook and all is fast enough. But its just that some programs need to optimize their program better. Like Launch'em, its slow as hell to load, yet others load fine.

RE: N760C is nearly perfect
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/7/2002 1:08:14 PM #
Chess programs get stronger with faster CPUs, so no speed is "fast enough" for me (even a 5000 MHz Palm would play chess weaker than a strong human grandmaster). I use chess programs mainly for analysis, but also as opponents (especially handheld ones, as top programs on fast PCs are just too strong for me to play against).

Also, the you can overclock to what SEEMS like 54 MHz but in actuality what reads as 54 MHz may be slower than what reads as 40 MHz. I own AfterBurner and have run tests of an overclocked app's clock versus a real clock and at some point (around 41 MHz on my N760C) overclocking "more" results in an overall SLOWDOWN.

The whole over-overclocking topic has been widely discussed among dozens of experts in the computer chess field (including the programmers of the top chess programs for the Palm).


New Clie

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 4:45:39 PM #
It will be the swivel based product I hope - leaked at Palmsource 2002.

Swivel display, allows usage either micro keyboard in a motorola startac design, or you can swivel the screen to have only the TFT virtual display showing.In-Built CCD 320x320 Camera,Bluetooth (Unconfirmed) looks like infostick. €799 SRP :(

Time is running out...

ssummer @ 3/6/2002 5:26:20 PM #
I think the time is running out for the introduction of any new mid-to-high level PalmOS4 handhelds. If, like promised, OS5 handhelds start showing up in the fall, OS4 handhelds, loaded or not, would not be able to compete except maybe in the entry-level market. So for a company to release anything but an entry-level PDA at this point is almost guaranteeing a product life of about 6 months...

RE: Time is running out...
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 6:16:01 PM #
Good observation.
CeBIT is in Mid March, and isn't Palm Source in Japan in late March (can someone verify)? Not likely they will spoil the Japan show thunder by jumping the gun in Europe - that is not like Sony.

Whatever it is it will be incremental, probably to help move existing inventory - so I figure any short term release from Sony will be a 16MB upgrade to the N760C with some potential enhancement to the IR port.

They've probably got a LOT of inventory, and will not be able to get rid of it all through the outlet channels (BTW - www.online-sony.com has the N760C for $344 USD).

RE: Time is running out...
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 7:16:55 PM #
Yes, Palm Source Japan starts on Mar-28.

My predictions

Scott @ 3/6/2002 7:07:45 PM #
Here are my predictions:

- It will be B&W (hence the lack of the "C" in the name)
- It will have MP3 playback capabilities built-in

My reasoning is as follows. Adding MP3 into the thin T-series form-factor will require more battery life than the color T-series can currently provide. Remember, too, that adding MP3 may mean adding additional components as well, leaving even less room for the battery and sucking even more power (due to added components).

Additionally, by adding MP3 to the T-series, they will now be able to retire the N-series. While this may be bad news for N-series owners, it will be good news overall as it will mean that they now have one standard connector and form factor. Expect the T-series CF-sled to be released in the US as well.

Scott

RE: My predictions
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 7:51:09 PM #
> While this may be bad news for N-series owners, it will be good news
> overall as it will mean that they now have one standard connector and form factor.

I don't see how this could be a good thing, and the S360 still has a different connector than the T-series anyhow. By fall, Sony will probably have another connector.

> Expect the T-series CF-sled to be released in the US as well.

Very unlikely.

Where is the Innovation?

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 8:00:06 PM #
Sony keeps re-hashing the same old crap they've been putting out for the last year. They can't innovate quickly enough. They should've already been out with a slim device that has virtual graffitti, MS AND SD/MMC, built-in BlueTooth, MP3, 66mhz dragonball, More RAM, and LONGER battery life.

All they've done in the past year is bring out "new" models which used the same screen and processor. They just add more ram and put it in a new casing.

All you sony people should be real proud because anytime some other company comes out with a product all you say is: "where's the innovation, where's the Hi-res, blah blah blah."

Yet your SONY hasn't come out with anything REVOLUTIONARY in the past 6 months. What's going on here? All the Sony R&D and no new products. I won't back a company that chooses to lag behind its competitors under the guise of "Hi-Res". PPC has had hires for years now. It's nothing special. Palm still doesn't have it and they outsell all other manufacturers COMBINED.

So why don't you guys quit your yapping and WAIT for Sony to INNOVATE. (I hope you're Patient)

Also, by the way, I am a Sony Clie owner (N610) before you think I'm some PPC guy....I may go back to Palm soon for a M515.

Later Skaters

RE: Where is the Innovation?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 8:23:38 PM #
"by the way, I am a Sony Clie owner (N610) before you think I'm some PPC guy....I may go back to Palm soon for a M515."

LoL I really don't see the reason behind this.

You complain about how sony has innovate in the past 6 months, how about this, Sony wrote new applications for Clie that's actually graphical ? that's actually looks cool and works great ? Sony broght Clie to the level of multimedia capability close to the competition but not quite there yet because of the underpowered dragonball CPU.

And where has Palm been for the last 3 X 6 months ? writing new applications for palm OS or developing hardware ?? Yeah they released M515 which is a great handheld that they should've released 1 year ago. New applications ? I don't see any. Cleaning up the API for the release of PalmOS 5 ? I really don't see that either.

RE: Where is the Innovation?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/7/2002 1:44:37 PM #
> Sony keeps re-hashing the same old crap they've been putting out for the last year.

If brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose.

Sony has crammed a 320x320 16 bit display, long range IR (with remote software), and decent sound into a slim, 4.8 ounce package. Also, the display is a new backlit/reflective hybrid that no other PDA has (that I know of).

Sure, I want 480x320 (a faster CPU wouldn't hurt either). And the T615 has many imperfections (buttons suck, poor battery life, display has bluish tint). But it *is* innovative.

Remember, almost all other newer model Palms (and newer model PPCs) are still using the same CPUs and screen resolutions as last year's models.

but when can i *buy* it?

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/6/2002 9:35:01 PM #
I was choosing between the n760 and the t615, but then I heard this rumor! So I am wondering if I should wait to see if this new clie will come to fruition. However, I'm very impatient b/c I don't currently own a PDA and really want to get one!

So, hypotehetically speaking, if Sony were to unveil this model next week, would anyone care to speculate when it would be available in the US market?

thanks! ~tara

It's also possible that ZDNet Germany IS correct...

SingSong @ 3/6/2002 10:34:21 PM #
...because of Sony's history of announcing new products.

I am a digital camera afficionado. Last year, prior CeBIT, Sony listed their CeBIT product lineup on their Sony Germany page.

There was a lot of buzz about the new DCS-707 digital camera. However, on Sony's Germany webpage, the 707 was not listed. No mention whatsoever.

Needless to say, Sony 'surprised' everyone by introducing their new, top of the line digicam.

So, as the header states, possibly, possibly not. But they're not beyond playing a little cloak and dagger.

I guess we'll see on the 13th.

Palm 515

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/17/2002 5:37:15 AM #
Dear Sir,

We want to develop mobile appliactions for Palm515 Model. How we can develop the style sheets etc. whereas we have established SMS connectivity via Infrared via mobile Set.


Can you tell us about some demo applications also.
Regards

Pradeep
Pradeep@jkinet.com

Sony Clie T760 is great!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 5:42:07 PM #
THE
Sony
Clie T760
is great
is easy to use
is a MP3 player
can convert into a digital still camera (w/attachment)

Overall is great and easy to use.

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