Comments on: Quickies: PC Expo, EEG Monitoring, HandEra Case, How-To

I was at the Singapore CommunicAsia 2002, which is the largest Mobile IT exhibition and yet Palm is not there at all....last year, when I was there Palm has a huge booth with lots of partners showing solutions and accessories and yet I saw some of them has actually jumped ship to support PPC 2002.

Upon asking some of the developers, many cited that the support that they get from Palm is lesser and lesser and as the saying goes, business still to move to stay alive many started supporting PPC 2002 platform too.

It is such a sad situation.

And now here at PC Expo in NYC, Palm is not making enough noise at all....and to think that Palm OS5 has just been released.

gun-shy on pre announcement? maybe they learn something from past mistakes about preannouncing debalce (m505, browser), or worse they just don't have anything to announce.

The funny thing is that Handspring didn't even show up even though they just released the new Treo. Funny thing is that PC Expo was pretty much dead in general this year. According to visorcentral "This year the show is surprisingly small - only about half of the available floor space is in use (see images on photo page). Most companies have smaller booths than they normally do. In fact, we have never seen PC Expo this small before."

Replace the E with a C and there are family physicians who would like some add ons. Preferably a 12 leader rather than the 3 leaders recentyl introduced.

Adding functionality versus turning it into a new device is a gray area. This is just like adding PCI cards to a PC, only more portable.

NOw, I'll admit that the Springboard seems to be winding to a close, but there has been A LOT of medical springboards for the Visor, so it will probably stay viable in that particular market for quite a while.

I do wish they used a more accepted standard (like standard CF cards or PMCIA cards. Oh well.

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James Sorenson

I won't be facetious and suggest a wind up defib....
ECG for the Family Physician: good or idea or a terrible one, in an increasingly litigionous world its a BAD idea because you might iagnose one of those terrible arythmias, but I like the idea of keeping a certain skill set alive of reading 12 lead ECG, checking for LVH, checking axes giving printout to keep in the wallet if LBBB was discovered etc.

Anyway that's my take, I guess IM Anonymous was from the States i'm from the UK we are still a bit behind in litiginous dept.
Taqi

6 months? I thought they say around Nov? Plus with this announcement I think people will wait and see before signing a one year contract.

treo is the only palm smartphone with a real keyboard. much better for composing emails than a kyocera

what do you get a phone/pda for? Watching movies or writing emails on the go? I think writing emails is more important than watching some trailer on a tiny screen

who is going to announce better phone? Do you know something that we don't?

and no There is NO new treo model, just treo 270 with CDMA tranceiver. What is the chance Handspring will create something to out do Kyocera in 5 months time (or at least announce it)

The rest are smartphone from Microsoft and Nokia.

Yeah the 7135 is great except that it seems too thick (more then 40% thicker then treo gsm). I like being able to put the Treo in my pant pocket without noticing it's there. I also prefer not to use belt clips. Hopefully I'll be able to pocket a 7135 at a CompUSA and see how it feels but from the official specs I'm inclined to think it won't be as pocketfriendly as the treo.

Personally, features like MP3, 16bit,(likely)longer battery life, and true 3G speed is not worth giving up the larger screen, pocketability, thumbboard, and price(definitely will be cheaper by the time 7135 is released) of the Treo. This is all assuming you're GSM/CDMA agnostic.

I meant if I were to choose between buying a Treo 270 and a 7135 in the future. You're right it didn't make sense. Sorry for the confusion.

Well the if its's "LATE" then this may be the perfect case for HANDERA!LOL

Cause they are too LATE.....

did you see the other thread about the potential color model? it will be a best seller i predict.

>> Yeah good point, plus the five people that bought Handera's probably broke them or upgraded by now.

Here we go again. It only took you ~2 hours to turn this thread to trash.

You know, some people did buy them, find them useful and they do fit a need. Not everyone wants the exact same model and people do like a selection to choose from.

If you can't contribute something useful to the discussion, grow up & go away.

Well unfortunatelly I place much of the blame on Handera for the negative comments and feelings of most users. They had a loyal (rabidly so at times) instilled base of users from TRG days, and due to marketing (or lack therof) errors, ineptitude and stupidity have lost all of their loyal followers. Further, most users feel slighted by Handeras MORONIC "no comment" plicy and the general lack of support the company has shown for its Handera 330 and its instilled user base. They have not upgraded the OS, hardware or assisted 3rd party developers and have left the unit as a orpahn while Sony has become the defacto standard.

Pretty pathetic actually that a comapany with such a large lead in just 18 months has gone from one of the best to an insignificant blip in the Palm OS world. Just goes to show just cause you have great engineering does't mean squat.

By the way make it 4 users, I dumped mine on eBay 3 months ago. LOL

> most users feel slighted by Handeras MORONIC "no comment" plicy

I'm not sure where you get "most users", but EVERY company has a no comment policy when it comes to future products. If you think otherwise, you are the moron.

> They have not [...] assisted 3rd party developers

I have never had a situation where HandEra has not answered a development related question. I would say you have no clue what you are talking about with regrads to this.

> By the way make it 4 users, I dumped mine on eBay 3 months ago. LOL

If you buy a device and manage to keep it far less than a year, then it was never for you in the first place. I've had my 330 for a year now, and it still does all the things I need that you cannot even get today on another Palm OS device.

I'd suggest learning some new strategies in how to purchase the right device for you. Your failures are clearly costing you some money, and causing stress that cannot be good for your heart.

>PPC is better, more multimedia, better software >easier to use.
>Palm is dead.

rotfl. beat it!

cyruski

well...ive used a Palm Vx and now own a HE 330 now. for me, colour is not a problem. and therefore term the HE 330 value for money. think about it, full version of QuickOffice free! voice, 2 expansion slots, less bulkier than PPC's. theres always an advantage and disadvantage to certain products. hope u guys out there stop making sweeping statements. i mean, have those who gave negative remarks actually owned one and tried it? its like Windows and Linux. before u even try it u say Windows is much better coz its supports more stuff etc. but Linux is definitely more stable. so it depends on how u look at it.

Not to mention battery life.

These new clies die in 3 hours, the ultra thin Toshiba e310 can run for 10 hours!!! Also it has a 1 month standby while the clie has just 5 days!!!

Yeat you are right Xsacale is arm but that does not changes the fact that PPC has better battery life than Plam OS.

PPC is trash. It doesn't matter what hardware you put it on.

"These new clies die in 3 hours, the ultra thin Toshiba e310 can run for 10 hours!!! Also it has a 1 month standby while the clie has just 5 days!!!"

Valid point, and something to consider when making a purchase.

However, despite the Toshiba being a remarkable achivement and the best ever for PPC battery endurance, it still falls short of several Palms. When it gets to 14 hours of runtime and 2,000 hours of standby, drop me a line and I'll take a look again.

Altema

"I thought E310 had bigger screen, strong arm, and play audio, while M515 does not? That's why it can have slightly longer battery life, tho not by much on continuous full brightness screen test."

Yes, you're right. The Toshiba has more screen area and an ARM processor which would impact battery life. The M515 does play audio, but I would probably refer to it as "makes noise". You can make out the words on mp3 tracks, but midi files sound kind of weird. The audio you get while watching movies is a mixed bag, depends on which player you are using.

I actually have not met an m515 user who keeps their screen light on high, same for my PPC friends, but I guess you could get away with it on the e310 because of the good battery life. However, it should be noted that the reviewers on CNET experienced a max battery life of 7 hours. Still good, but not 10 hours. They did not give any conditions to their "testing", so it is rather inconclusive. They could have had mp3's blasting with the screen on high.

I have had results vary widely depending on the workload and screen. Some of my own tests were abusive, with audio cranked, screen brightness maxed, and the processor running full tilt. Others were more reserved with the brightness only as high as needed and avoiding excessive gaming. The worst possible time was around 6 hours, the best was almost 16 hours, but even that session has time with the light on max.

After a while, I grew tired of monitoring battery life, deleted all my tracking apps, and just forgot about the battery. This is the way most handhelds are designed to be used; you just sync once in a while and the battery takes care of itself. I have not seen a low battery warning since, except for the time I ran it down on purpose to see what Kinoma Player would do with a low battery warning. My wife had her Palm for several months before she even knew it had a battery! She only did a sync once a week and was fine until I put her dance rehearsal videos on it...

Altema