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RE: Excellent program
RE: Excellent program
RE: Excellent program
: probably when the Real Player for Palm is released.
This is an interesting note. Recently at the NYC LinuxWorld Expo, I stopped by Real Networks booth and happened to ask one of the representatives about the release date of RealPlayer for Palm OS5. One person was able to confirm that a release date was set for mid-February. He also said that all Tunsten owners who registered should get an official e-mail notice about when and where they can download it. If I recall correctly, it should be free. Oh, and he also noted that in future Palm OS5 models, the RealPlayer will be bundled along with the other software normally in the CD's included (i.e. Docs to Go, Palm Reader, etc).
He also showed me RealPlayer on his Tungsten (and also his Nokia cell phone, though the exact model escapes me at the moment) and played it. Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to listen to it via headphones, so I couldn't really compare against the Aeroplayer beta version I had on my Tungsten at the time. Oh well, I suppose the only way to find out is to get my hands on the RealPlayer for Palm.
Has anyone else heard of any updates recently regarding Realplayer?
Jim
RE: Excellent program
AeroPlayer for Clies, someday...
For more details, see http://www.aerodromesoftware.com/clieusers.html. They're asking for interested Clie users to send (polite) notes to Sony, asking them to give AeroPlayer a call.
IMO, the Clie's AudioPlayer software is lacking in some key areas (playlists, some more configurable jog wheel configurations), and I'd be interested in paying for a 3rd party option that solves them.
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Jeff Meyer
RE: AeroPlayer for Clies, someday...
Re: AudioPlayer 3
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"I'm warning you ... if you kill me, they'll just send 008!"
Jeff Meyer
ATRAC3 to MP3
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: ATRAC3 to MP3
RE: ATRAC3 to MP3
-the harbinger-
OT: Realplayer
Browsing some foreign palm websites, I have found some interesting pages:
http://www.palmq.ru/article.php?sid=969
Photos and Download for Realplayer beta and a soundpatch for the Tungsten T.
RE: OT: Realplayer
I installed both the FAT FS Patch and the Sound Patch in the ZIP file from that Russian site on my Tungsten T.
Music file playback now has CD audio quality using the AeroPlayer on my Tungsten T!
However, a side effect of the patch seems to be a significant drop-off in the overall volume level of the device. Setting the volume to "High" in the Preferences panel sounds like "Low" did BEFORE the patch. The volume level is almost inaudible when set to "Low".
RE: OT: Realplayer
Alan
RE: OT: Realplayer
HALSndLib443.prc
and now I'm triying to delete them but I can't!!
You are all right, the volume degradation is terrible.
RE: OT: Realplayer
RE: OT: Realplayer
> FATFSPatch1.prc
> HALSndLib443.prc
>
> and now I'm triying to delete them but I can't!!
>
> You are all right, the volume degradation is terrible.
We told you! Why'd you go and install it? :)
This sound patch does not seem to be a permanent change to the flash ROM. It is also not backed up during synchronization. Therefore...
Synchronize your Tungsten T first. Perform a hard reset (push and hold reset... push and hold power button... release reset... release power... push the D-pad up). Synchronize your Tungsten T again to reload the device with your data.
After I performed these steps, I'm back to loud volume on "High" in Prefs and "telephone" quality MP3 playback. The patch appears to have been removed.
RE: OT: Realplayer
a) go to palmgear and install filez (free)
b) look for those two files in TT's RAM and ensure these are not read only (flags: ro) - in case they are set reset that flag
c) reset your palm (pin hole) with holding the button up
d) use some file manager (even filez) to delete those files
e) reset again without holding the button
f) never install executables from unknown sources again if you don't know how to get rid of them ;-)))))
Andy
RE: OT: Realplayer
This download also makes Realplayer for windows show the palm in the devices tab, with possibility to transfer songs from it, although very slow, but works.
RE: OT: Realplayer
I think the safest thing to do right now is just wait for Real's official release, which is due for a release RSN. Well, according to the gentlemen at LinuxWorld. :)
Maybe the one floating around the 'net is rough around the edges? I don't know.
Jim
RE: OT: Realplayer
Its just too low!
RE: OT: Realplayer
Innovation?... hardly
RE: Innovation?... hardly
Well, at least Palm has voice recording now. ;-)
Tony
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With great power comes great responsiblity.
RE: Innovation?... hardly
I am a happy user of a Tungsten and delighted that it can play MP3s now, as well. Innovation or not... who gives a damn!
RE: Innovation?... hardly
However, while I'm pleased that my Tungsten T is MP3 capable, I wonder how much I'll really use this feature.
I sit in front of a MP3 capable Windows computer 9-10 hours a day. My living room has a stereo system. My car has a radio and a CD player. At the gym, there is a TV with satellite and people for conversation.
Aside from the occasional airplane flight, I have precious few times that I want music and do not have a better machine than my Tungsten T within reach.
Are your daily routines and situations that much different than mine? How often do you really use your Palm OS device to play music? In contrast, how often do you use your Palm OS device to reference and update personal information (appointments, contacts, notes)?
I believe it has been wise that Palm has historically kept its focus on ease of use and personal information management over multimedia functionality.
RE: Innovation?... hardly
It's a nice feature but I'd gladly take more ram, better battery life, soft Grafitti area and the other usual wishlist items over mp3 capability. With that said, of course, it IS upsetting that Palm got everyone all worked up and then has constantly failed to deliver on their promises. I know that there are users out there for whom mp3 playback is the main use of their PDAs and perhaps bought a T|T solely on the hopes that Palm and Real would deliver a working solution by Dec 31st 2002. So just because you and I don't get as excited over MP3s does not mean Palm should be cut any slack or let off the hook!
RE: Innovation?... hardly
Haven't really used the VoiceMemo function much - I'll need to have a play about with it. (I supposed not helped by the fact that I've reconfigured that button to launch McPhling so it takes a couple of extra taps to record things!).
Cheers
Alan
RE: Innovation?... hardly
Aeroplayer
When I was making my decision I read these columns which proved very helpful.I also emailed Palm ( after having no joy through telephone) and asked about mp3 compatibility.
Palm actually made no mention of realplayer at all, and sent me a link to aeroplayer.
So does this mean that Aero is the recommended option from Palm ? Probably not officially, but Aero definately seems to be Palms choice at the moment.
Best Regards,
Darren
RE: Aeroplayer
RealOne any day now...
Finally - Oficial SOUNDPATCH
http://www.palm.com/support/downloads/palmaudio.html
It's official, and the sound is GREAT!!!!!
Now all that I want is to have an equalizer in PT or AeroPlayer to tune up the sound :)
Finally a PATCH!!! Now waiting for the OS5.2 :P
RE: Finally - Oficial SOUNDPATCH
CaptT
RE: Finally - Oficial SOUNDPATCH
RE: Finally - Oficial SOUNDPATCH
Sure I could say that what I really want is OS6 :) But so far, correcting some bugs that are annoying me would be great...
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Excellent program
I'd like to point out that it's not 'CD-quality sound' though - in fact no player on the Tungsten can even come close to CD-quality until Palm, Inc. release the audio patch! (audio on the Tungsten is optimised for speech, so music doesn't have a the full dynamic range and sounds a bit muffled). The patch is rumoured to be released this month, probably when the Real Player for Palm is released.
I've had a look at a beta version of the Real Player and so far I'd definitely stick with AeroPlayer!
There's also a Yahoo group for Aeroplayer (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aeroplayer) which the developers regularly contribute to. Apparently some cool new features are in the offing :-)
Alan