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RE: Hmm...
Thanks.
In the Spirit of Umoja,
Ronin
Warez Infocenter?
RE: Hmm...
elo
RE: Hmm...
RE: Hmm...
Of course, the OP was about the legality of this article; I was merely responding with information that might be helpful to some. If you aren't interested, why respond?
elo
RE: Hmm...
Further, are you certain there is any inpropriety in my copying these files from an OS5 device I own, to an OS5.2 device I own?
RE: Hmm...
Palm III --> Compaq Areo 1550 --> Palm IIIc --> Visor Edge --> Casio EM500 --> Sony T415 --> Compaq 3670 --> Dell Axim x5 Advanced --> Sony SJ20 --> Palm T|E
Too Easy?
I'm starting to actually like G2, so I think I will leave well enough alone.
RE: Too Easy?
It shows good systems engineer on the PalmSource side. Pretty much, they just updated the handwriting rec. engine and kept the PRC names the same. Having the contention of PRCs of the same name in RAM and ROM resolve to where the OS runs only the RAM resident PRC goes all the way back to Palm OS 2.0.
However, since the Genie is out of the bottle with this now, who knows if Xerox legal will complain that it is too easy for the end user infringement. That is a massive gray zone.
But frankly, I'm glad this is so "drop in" so I can make a "T" the way I used to with the old stuff. :)
Where can I get those files?
Anyone know where I can find these 2 files online so I can just hotsync them to the T2?
RE: Where can I get those files?
http://www.tpug.org/SK-/Graffiti1.zip
I downloaded the file and virus-checked with Norton; it's OK.
If you want to follow the original thread, go here:
http://www.spug.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45510
The Graffiti1.zip link is on page 2 of the thread.
RE: Where can I get those files?
Can we use Graffiti 2 on Tungsten T?
Can you send TT2 Graffiti2 PRCs?
Regards..
RE: Where can I get those files?
RE: Where can I get those files?
RE: Where can I get those files?
For G2 you need the following files:
Graffiti 2 Library, size 95K, creator grft
Graffiti 2 Library_enUS, size 131K, creator grft
For write anywhere you need:
GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny
This worked for me, your mileage may vary.
RE: Where can I get those files?
GoLCDLib
Graffiti 2 Prefs
Graffiti 2 Prefs_enUS
You can also copy the new Prefs application. Hurrah! :-)
RE: Where can I get those files?
Please drop me a note (preferable by eMail.)
Thanks
icarus
presently using T|T - waiting for 320x480 VG Design with Bluetooth (No clam-shell, no keyboard, no slider, etc.)
RE: Where can I get those files?
Hmmm Question...
If you copy these files and the Graffiti 1 libs, can you get G1 with write anywhere? Has anyone tired this?
- Tere
>For write anywhere you need:
>
>GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
>GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
>GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny
>
>This worked for me, your mileage may vary.
- Tere
RE: Where can I get those files?
I want to try Graffiti2 on my TT. Please send me (belek@flashmail.com) or share it any web site.
Thanks.
RE: Where can I get those files?
RE: Where can I get those files?
Could someone please send those libs to cannedbart(at)pacbell.net
Peace,
-Bartman007
Has PIC now turned into a warez group?
Unless PIC supports trading stolen programs, these posts (and arguably this article) should be removed. If you feel it is ok to trade these, files you might as well start hosting PW-Patcher and the Palmpass updates. But no doubt you can find a way to rationalize stealing Palm system files...
Give me a break
Peace Out
Alan
RE: Where can I get those files?
What is the difference between stealing an unlicensed Graffiti application (which Palm no longer will be using do to legal concerns) and stealing an unlicensed application from a company other than Palm? Please enlighten us all, Grasshopper. No doubt one of your law school professors can help you out on this one if you don't know where to start.
RE: Where can I get those files?
RE: Where can I get those files?
I cannot tolerate Graffiti 2. I attempted the switch using a SD card and all seemed to be fine except I could not get capitalization. Any help out there for a Tungsten E user? Palm of course says that it can't be done. Help!
RE: Where can I get those files?
I am also a tungsten E user suffering with G2.
Did you ever find a method to upgrade to G1?
Although I have the G1 files
on my PC, I don't know how I can get them onto my Tungsten; I don't have anyone to beam them to me.
When I tried to "install" them, that failed because of some read-only error during hotsync. I suppose I don't want to install them, only to copy them over without installing.
How should I get them into Palm memory? I have FileZ.
--Steve
RE: Where can I get those files?
Cheers.
how to restore
You might be able to restore G2 by doing a "warm" (extensions-off/up-button) reset and deleting the added prc files, followed by a regular soft reset.
Another potential method to restore G2 is to use a utility such a FileZ to change the type and creatorID of the added prc files (to 'XXXX' maybe), followed by a soft reset.
RE: how to restore
--
Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com
Doesn't work for me
But I have no problem copying T2 Grafitti files to card.
Be careful!
RE: Doesn't work for me
Smoother
RE: Doesn't work for me
A Palm in one hand is worth 2 PocketPCs
: )
-Steve B.
RE: Doesn't work for me
RE: Doesn't work for me
I was also unable to hotsync the 2 G1 files to my TT2. I ended up putting them on the card and then moving them to RAM. Once I did that, I was able to get G1. WOO HOO!!
RE: Doesn't work for me
Smoother
kinda glad i got an sj22
Is Graffiti 2 that bad? Hard to adapt to? Less effecient or reliable?
RE: kinda glad i got an sj22
They should've at least included a simple training tool to help people get acclimated to it, IMHO.
RE: kinda glad i got an sj22
Aside from that, I think G2 might be better in theory, just like the metric system... however, most of us are so used to it, we really don't have any interest in letting it change.
In the words of Grandpa Simpson: 'My car gets twenty rods to the hog's head, and that's the way I like things.'
RE: kinda glad i got an sj22
RE: kinda glad i got an sj22
RE: kinda glad i got an sj22
Request: Which exact G1 files to use?
Please can someone confirm which of the 4 found files are needed? These 4 are from my old old m500 palm handheld. (I am now using a Zire 71 - my husband uses the m500)
The files listed from ROM from the FileZ ver 5.22
Filename: Graffiti
Type: appl creator: gdem size: 14381 b, 26 rec Unique ID: 262831, card 0 verison ID: 1
Attributes: Resource DB checked DATES: Created: 6/11/03 Modified: 6/11/03 Backedup: 6/15/03
Filename: Graffiti ShortCuts
Type: macr, Creator: graf, Size 668b, 1 recs, Unique ID: 8381625, Card 0, Version ID: 0
Attributes: Resource DB, Backup, OK Install New are checked DATES: Created: 6/11/03 Modified: 9/26/03 Backedup: 9/11/03
Filename: GraffitiExtension (locked)
Type: extn, creator: graf, Size 32902 b, 3 recs, Unique ID: 269589354, Card 0, Version ID: 1
Attributes: Resource DB, Read Only, Copy Protect are checked DATES: Created: 2/23/01 Modified: 2/23/01 Backedup: never
Filename: GraffitiExtension_enUS
Type: ovly, creator: graf, Size 14368b,b 13 recs, Unique ID: 269622264, Card 0, Version ID: 1
Attributes: Resource DB, Read Only are checked DATES: Created: 2/23/01 Modified: 2/23/01 Backedup: never
THANK YOU in advance for any and all help in pointing out which are needed. (If I can I'd like to do this right the first time)
The 2 files listed on the help page don't really seem apparent here (One file seems obvious but the other isn't):
-Graffiti Library.prc, size: 30k, creator: grft
-Graffiti Library_enUS.prc, size 22k, creator: grft
Karen Ramel
karenramel@yahoo.com
Vancouver, BC Canada
RE: kinda glad i got an sj22
Thank you to everyone INCLUDING the very kind 3 persons I contacted directly about this. With all of your help I learned:
Unfortunatly, none of the files on the m500 can help you. The m500 runs OS4.x, and the graffiti system on it is incompatable with the OS5.x of the Zire 71. You will need to install the files from graffiti1.zip to a SD card and then copy them to your Zire. If you don't have an SD card, you can try installing the files from graffiti1.zip to the m500 (which will probably generate an error message of some sort), and then using filez to beam them to the Zire. However, I have not tried this, and it may force you to do a hard reset on the m500, so do a complete Hotsync first, and try it at your own risk!
Another kind soul shared:
You need to install graffiti1.zip (attached) to the SECURE DIGITAL CARD, then use another program (like Filez, or TealMover) to move the two files from the card to RAM, then do a soft reset.
*****If you do not install the files to the SD card (but instead install to RAM from hotsync), it will put the Zire71 into an infinite reset loop. If you would rather use what's on your husband's m500 files, just look for the files that match the two I'm sending you. A few people have had problems, but only when they didn't follow the directions I sent them. : )
Finally the third kind soul also included the crossingover10.zip file with the additional note that it (crosingover10.zip) will enable you to write capital letters where you used to be able to, but where g1 somehow doesn't allow you to.
Thanks to everyone!
I will try your suggestions and also crossingover. Perhaps crossingover is a smaller application than the application JOT that have?
FROM the PALMone.com website RESETTING THE PALM:
To perform a Soft reset, do the following:
Use the tip of an unfolded paper clip (or similar object without a sharp tip), to gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.
To perform a Warm reset, do the following:
Press and hold the Page Up button on your handheld. Use the tip of an unfolded paper clip (or a similar object without a sharp tip), gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld. When the Palm logo appears on the screen, release the Page Up button.
To perform a Hard reset, do the following:
Hold down the power button on the front panel of the handheld. While holding down the power button, use the tip of an unfolded paper clip (or similar object without a sharp tip), to gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.
Release the reset button. When the Palm logo appears on the screen, release the power button. When the message appears on the screen warning that you are about to erase all the data stored on your handheld, do one of the following: Press the page up button on the front panel of the handheld to complete the Hard reset and display the Digitizer screen. Pressing any other button performs a Soft reset.
can't find the graffiti files
I have held off getting the T due to the change in graffiti (though I'll probably give in when the T2 comes out.
RE: can't find the graffiti files
RE: can't find the graffiti files
T has the standard Graffiti, the one you have on your M515. T2 has Graffiti 2.
RE: can't find the graffiti files
xrays@sympatico.ca
Is there a happy medium?
-Jeff
RE: Is there a happy medium?
RE: Is there a happy medium?
Got it to work with FileZ on Zire 71
1. I used the SPUG files since I have no TT to use. Installed the two Graffiti 1 files to my SD card. (My attempt to install them directly to the Z71 resulted in a soft reset loop, which I could only escape by hard resetting. Thank God for BackupMan!)
2. Using FileZ, I copied the files to the Z71.
3. Soft reset, and it worked fine. I do in fact have the old Graffiti 1 help screen popup as well.
Good deal. (Except now I have to relearn G1!)
RE: Got it to work with FileZ on Zire 71
RE: Got it to work with FileZ on Zire 71
RE: Got it to work with FileZ on Zire 71
RE: Got it to work with FileZ on Zire 71
Restoring G2 after trying G1 without a reset...not so much
After installing G1 and getting that feeling of a comfortable pair of shoes, I decided to see if I could restore G2 without a hard reset.
I did a page up soft reset and used fileZ to try and delete the two files. It would not delete them, so I took a look at the settings and the two files have a setting of "bundle" in McFile and are shown as "Resource DB" in fileZ.
I tried to untick the setting in fileZ, save changes and delete the file. It put me in a flashing Palm logo reset loop. I had to hard reset to get out of it.
I don't feel like trying further, I believe you will have to hard reset to get rid of G1...but then why would you want to get rid of a pair of comfortable shoes as G1 !!!
Glad to have you back!
matty
RE: Restoring G2 after trying G1 without a reset...not so mu
1) In Filez, go to the Details form for each database. Change both the name and creator code of each one.
2) Soft reset your device.
3) In Filez, delete the two databases.
This works because Palm OS allows you to change the info for these while they are open, but not delete them. On a soft reset, it won't find the DBs, so it will use the ones in ROM, and then they won't be open anymore.
--
Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com
I've remove Graffiti1.zip from my server
But now its very popular and spread wide over the world. So then I would remove those file from tpug.org before my schedule to remove on Sunday. This is just to protect my self and tpug from illegal problem.
Hope you understand this.
www.TPUG.org
Thai Palm Users' Group
Looking for files
Anyway, would anyone who got these files before they were pulled maybe email them to me? I would be most appreciative.
If not, that's cool. I'll have to wait until I see my friend.
-----
Pilot 5000, Palm IIIc, Clie N710c, Clie NR70v, Tungsten T, Tungsten T2
RE: Looking for files
This is awesome! Thanks!
RE: Looking for files
- Thanks.
RE: Looking for files
Thanks
RE: Looking for files
RE: Looking for files
for those that care, i tested it on my tungsten c and here's what i did:
* hotsync'ed
* backed up to sd card (i use backupman)
* disabled tealscript
* copied the graffiti 1 files to the root of my sd card
* used launcher x's card tool to copy the files from sd to palm ram
* did a soft reset
after i did a reset, it prompted me for my password (as if the device had been locked) and after entered my password, it gave me some sort of fatal error. not sure what was happening here, but i did another soft reset and everything was fine. graffiti 1 worked like a charm even with "write anywhere on-screen".
then to remove graffiti 1 without a hard reset, i did:
* in filez, went to each of the files and appended 'xxx' to the name and changed the creator id to 'xxxx'
* did a soft reset
* using filez again, deleted the grafiti 1 files
in the end, everything was back to normal without a hitch.
Excellent! But I'm torn...
I stayed with OS4 when I upgraded to my Sony SJ33 in order to get some more milage from the apps and hacks I've spent money on in the past.
I haven't tried Jot or Grafitti 2 yet, so I'm torn.
Something I've considered is the exact opposite however: going to Jot or Graf2 so that when I upgrade next time, which will surely be to an OS5 or above machine, I'll be ready to make the switch.
The idea of dragging the original Grafitti files over to a newer machine is extremely cool fom a hacking standpoint, but will we be able to do this with OS6, or (for better or worse) would it be better to just learn the new method?
Did they update the Giraffe game to train folks on the new method? The old one worked for teaching me G1.
RE: Excellent! But I'm torn...
RE: Excellent! But I'm torn...
**************************************
Ann - happily using her Garmin iQue3600
RE: Excellent! But I'm torn...
G1 with caps crossover
RE: G1 with caps crossover
http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodID=45513
cheers,
Harry
Wher do I get 'Write Anywhere Files'
GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny
I have sucessfully put Graffiti 1 on my my T2 using 'FileZ'
I would really appreciate HELP
The Covertec is a superb case beautifully made. Simply the best all round case yet. I have ordered a Digital Express case and am awaiting delivery. Also worth considering
Anywhere/Caps work?
-the Graffiti Anywhere still work?
-the Capitals in the middle of the alpha/non-alpha line?
-are any of the other enhancements in Graffiti 2 lost?
RE: Anywhere/Caps work?
-Graffiti anywhere still works.
-Capital letters in the middle of alpha-non alpha line does not work (I wouldn't expect it to, though)
-Other than the caps concept, I cannot think of any other real advantage to having Graffiti 2 rather than 1
Doing so removes the Cap in the Middle
If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got!
Type to you later,
RE: Doing so removes the Cap in the Middle
-budrowilson
RE: Doing so removes the Cap in the Middle
Does anyone have G1 installed on a machine that came with G2 and have the caps in the middle thing working using either Crossover or GrafittiAnywhere?
If so, is it on a T|C? Can you offer help? If I could get caps in the middle to work, with G1 on my T|C, I would be one happy camper...
matty
RE: Doing so removes the Cap in the Middle
I have a Zire 71 that now has G1 installed. I am using Crossover and I can write caps on the alpha/non-alpha line. I don't know what your problem might be. Maybe it's a software conflict with something else you have?
-budrowilson
RE: Doing so removes the Cap in the Middle
Need Files
carl.quick@lmco.com.
Thanks much for your time and help.
Need the Files (PUH-LEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!)
Incedibly large and powerful amounts of good kharma will be sent in return.
RE: Need the Files (PUH-LEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!)
Any ideas out there? You guys are incredibly astute, so I imagine someone has figured this one out as well.
RE: Need the Files (PUH-LEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!)
RE: Need the Files (PUH-LEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!)
Please reply to me directly as well as on the board- golden322@yahoo.com
Original Graffiti
Sincerely,
Tcman
RE: Original Graffiti
Thanks in advance.
RE: Original Graffiti
RE: Original Graffiti
I have Tealscript and I'm satisfied with it. But if you know of a drawback, please let me know. Thanks.
Toadstool
graffiti files all help appreciated !
please send
graffiti library.prc
graffiti library_enUS.prc
Cheers
sean
REQ: Bejeweled
please send
bejeweled.prc
Cheers
Howard
RE: graffiti files all help appreciated !
G2 Punctuation shift characters so .............slow
RE: G2 Punctuation shift characters so .............slow
RE: G2 Punctuation shift characters so .............slow
graffiti1 on palm zire71
thanks for so much helpful information. i followed everything and got g1 installed on my zire 71. it works great, however, since doing that, when i try to close a da application using app/da launcher, i get this message, "SysEvtMgr.c, line:1409, pen q out of sync", and the system then locks and needs to be reset. does anyone know what needs to be done to fix it?
thanks. vccac
Works on my T3
The Wide Graffiti area works giving CAPS in the middle box and keeps old punctuation
Geeez that Graffiti 2 was anoying!
Back to Normal
What about my Visor? :-D
On the Visor I own, the only two graffiti files on it are:
Graffiti ShortCut, 2k graf and
GraffitiDemo, 13k gdem.
Will these work the same as the other larger graffiti files? Thanks!
-Jim
RE: What about my Visor? :-D
Palm III --> Compaq Areo 1550 --> Palm IIIc --> Visor Edge --> Casio EM500 --> Sony T415 --> Compaq 3670 --> Dell Axim x5 Advanced --> Sony SJ20 --> Palm T|E
Works for Tungsten/E
2- Copied them to the SD Card
3- Copied from the SD Card to main memory
4- Soft Reset
5- Voila!
Don't try to hotsync them because is not allowed.
cheers
Zire (PalmOS 4.12) has Graffiti2, how to get PalmOS 4 files?
My Palm III with Palm OS 3.3 has Graffiti Library v. 2.0 (but is still the original Graffiti!) in ROM BUT I can NOT find any Graffiti Library_enUS in ROM with Filez.
How to get Graffiti Library_enUS.prc ? Will a version from Palm OS 5 work? If you have the files for my PalmOS 4 please email me at wil@mail.nu
RE: Zire (PalmOS 4.12) has Graffiti2, how to get PalmOS 4 fi
RE: Zire (PalmOS 4.12) has Graffiti2, how to get PalmOS 4 files?
RE: Zire (PalmOS 4.12) has Graffiti2, how to get PalmOS 4 files?
"Palminfocenter should delete this thread if they want to keep Palm's advertising dollars from walking away."
PalmOne advertising on this site shouldn't have much impact on the content. Site policy is nothing illegal, as in warez, and that site has nothing more than what was suggested to be used in the G2->G1 fix made by PIC itself. Also, before all comments, there's a little message that says:
"The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. PIC is not responsible for them in any way."
If PalmOne would threaten to pull their ads everytime something questionable was brought up in forums, they WOULDN'T have any ads up. It doesn't work like that. Now if someone violates an NDA.. now that's a different story.
-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616
RE: Zire (PalmOS 4.12) has Graffiti2, how to get PalmOS 4 files?
RE: Zire (PalmOS 4.12) has Graffiti2, how to get PalmOS 4 files?
-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616
RE: Zire (PalmOS 4.12) has Graffiti2, how to get PalmOS 4 files?
Can someone direct me to the OS 4 Graffiti 1 files or email them to me?
Thanks!
Abe
Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti
The advice that was published seems to apply only to OS 5.x I have 4.1 and want to go back to original Grafitti.
Does anyone know how to do this?
David L Glueck
RE: Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti
I tried installing the OS5 G1 Files and it didn't work. I tried installing the GraffitiExtension Files (GraffitiExtension.prc & GraffitiExtension_enUS.prc)from my G1 Model to the G2 Model, but it didn't work. Then, using FileZ I renamed these files to the exact same name as the rom files (Graffiti 2 Extension & Graffiti 2 Extension_enUS) and changed the creator to grf2, but this stopped Graffiti from working period.
So, I'm guessing that you can't get G1 onto a G2 Palm running OS 4.1.2. If anyone knows how to please let us know. Thanks.
RE: Replace 4.1.2 Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti
Putting Graffiti 2 on Palm Zire
RE: Putting Graffiti 2 on Palm Zire
Trandor @ 8/21/2003 11:41:20 PM
I have successfully put G2 on my TT as well as write anywhere.
For G2 you need the following files:
Graffiti 2 Library, size 95K, creator grft
Graffiti 2 Library_enUS, size 131K, creator grft
For write anywhere you need:
GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny
This worked for me, your mileage may vary.
Palm m130 -> Tungsten|T
Graffiti 1 files for OS5
I went to the zansstuff site and he no longer has the files posted there (not that I could find.)
Could someone send me the files, please?
Thanks!!!
RE: Graffiti 1 files for OS5
NE1 Find a Solution for G1 on the Sony Clie UX50??
Please help santa and let me know the way to replace
g2 with g1!!
- Scott
Anyone has graffiti1?
Can anyone Pleeease send me these 2 graffiti1 files.
I' am going nuts, it's just so auful. I almost can't use this graffiti2. The most annoying thing is these (i,t,k...) 2-stroke characters. And much more problems. For example , if ward ends with (L) and than i want to make space (it's a common case) What do you think i have instead? T!
I've been looking all over the net - all links with graffiti1 are broken. On zan's stuff page in his zip file graffiti library.prc is 1kb instead of 30 - so it is broken too probably. i moved from Vx to zire 71 so i have nowhere to get graffiti1
Please send me to muchael4 [at] 012.net.il
Thanks in advance.
RE: NE1 Find a Solution for G1 on the Sony Clie UX50??
RE: NE1 Find a Solution for G1 on the Sony Clie UX50??
Can someome make my New Year by sending the files to me?
Gracias!
Thanks
Change works !
For the people that are concerned about doing something illegal - my suggestion is do not read the PIC and or get a life !
where to find grafitti1 files
Could somebody be so kind to share them with me?
arpenaREMOVE@THIShotmail.com will do fine !!
Thanks !
graffiti 1
My old handspring visor got stepped on :(
which is why I got a new Tungsten. I am disappointed that Palmcorp would have me learn a new input method just to save a few pennies. They used to be a good company.
Graffitti 2 replacement
I can only say I'm not satisfied with Graffitti 2 but I have found a tremendous piece of software TealScript from Tealpoint. This allows you to customize how you write all letters and I mean all letters including all the international ones and special characters. This is really worth the 20$
Best regards
Palle
want to put Graffiti 1 on T2 - hate Graffiti 2!
Thank you !!!
RE: want to put Graffiti 1 on T2 - hate Graffiti 2!
Howto: Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti
RE: Howto: Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti
It emulates graffiti version 1 when you tick the 'enable' box with no changes in default settings.
It also offers infinite modification to all character strokes should you want, but I use it just to write 'k', 't' and 'i' the way I have been for ths last 6 years!
stephen
RE: Howto: Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti
I have a Tungsten E. I dunno if this is normal for Tungsten E users, or if I'm just cursed (call it a fifty-fifty shot). But getting those two little files on my T|E took a heck of a lot of effort, because I don't have a SD card or a T|T, and the Palm Install Tool refused to install the files to an "expansion card" created using PalmRamDisk.
I *did* ultimately succeed though, and (more to the point) succeeded in a manner that is platform-agnostic (at least as much as ZBoxZ is), so this may be of interest to Mac and Linux users. I haven't actually tested this, tho; I don't have access to a Mac, and even tho I prefer Linux I was using Windows at the time I got this working and I don't want to try going through this again ;).
So, here's how I ultimately managed:
1) First, you need the files. I picked them up from the zahsstuff link (mentioned elsewhere in this thread).
2) Install FileZ onto your Palm. See: http://nosleepsoftware.sf.net/download.html
3) Install PalmRamDisk onto your Palm. See: http://www.handwatch.com/
4) Install the ZBoxZ Suite. See: http://palmboxer.sf.net/
5) "Box" up the two PRC files using whatever means is appropriate for the OS. (Under Windows, I installed the conduit and then stuffed them into C:\Program Files\Palm\
6) Get said boxed files onto the Palm (the method I used did this automatically)
7) Make sure PalmRamDisk is working, 'cause we're about to use it! (easy way is to go to the Applications listing and check the menu to see if there's a card that you don't have inserted showing ;D )
8) Open ZBoxZ. Select the files and use the Install command to install them onto the 'card'.
9) Open FileZ. Copy the "installed" files off the 'card' to the Palm's main memory.
10) Soft reset.
11) Rejoyce.
And if you think that instruction list is long, you should have seen my wild attempts at getting this going before! ;)
RE: Howto: Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti
I too went to my IBM Workpad c3 (aka Palm Vx) and discovered that there were no files there. Since the batteries had long since died, I had to do a full sync and thanks to the developers of WebPro, AcroRead, and the BT software the sync copied all of those files to my Vx as well, even though the two are different machine names... Oh well...
Anyhow- I got the files off of the illustrious WWW. I now didn't know how to get them to my Tungsten T3. I don't have an SD reader for PC, and I didn't want to install a bunch of crazy software and copy files all over the place. So, I tried beaming to my T3, but for some reason it doesn't bring up the IR stuff in Windows like my Vx does. Ahh well. Then, oh yes- I did OBEX File Push to throw the files across Bluetooth to my T3. I just started the transfer, a few seconds later it completed, and then I rebooted. Way easy! I suggest to whoever is maintaining the G1 files that the instructions add this option, because it is the easiest way by far (if you don't have the G1 files already on another Palm machine).
Where can I get Graffiti 2?
I have a T|T and I would like to try Graffiti 2.
The files I want are:
Graffiti 2 Library, size 95K, creator grft
Graffiti 2 Library_enUS, size 131K, creator grft
Graffiti 2 Prefs
Graffiti 2 Prefs_enUS
GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
GoLCDLib
GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny
Graffitt 2 to 1 on Zodiac Tapwave
I too think the Graffitti 1 to 2 switch was stupid. I was able to shift the files from my Tungsten T to my Tapwave Zodiac with no effect. Tapwaves files are names like the Tungsten, but include "2" in the title, so I renamed the Tungsten 1 files. That's when I got a critical error message and had to hard reset to recover. I don't think it works for Zodiac
;(
Rich
can i have some love?
Putting G1 on a Tungsten T3
My email address is: Polanski@paradise.net.nz
graffiti 1 files
graffiti 2
buildordie97@hotmail.com
Graffiti files
Thanks in advance.
elfshadow@iinet.net.au
I HAVE THE FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just downloaded them, and they work, but u can't just hotsync them! FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS!
Need files to restore original graffiti
nadbob@mac.com
RE: Need files to restore original graffiti
I've lived with G2 for 6 months and it still is a poor substitue for G1
Thanks
RE: Need files to restore original graffiti
Why do you need a Tungsten T or Sony Clie
So why is there a need to access the Sony CLie or the Tungsten? Please reply. I very much want the original graffiti. I lost my Visor last year. I should have had it replaced while Handspring was still repairing them.
If you know of anyone repairing Visors please let me know as well.
Thanks Dooray
RE: Why do you need a Tungsten T or Sony Clie
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Generic PDA > 5mx > Vx > m505 > N770C > T625C > NR70V > e310 > m550 > h2210 > T/T3 & h4150
StarTac > T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630 > K700i (nxt week)
G1 can someone email me the 2 prc files PLEEEEEASE
thank you very much
grafitti
I hate the grafitti 2 as well. but how the heck do I get to "handheld file manager" and the "fileZ" ?
Thanks, someone.
re: grafitti restoring. I HATE grafitti 2. But how the heck to you get to the "handheld file manager" and the "fileZ" Help!!
Alternative to CrossingOver
http://www.freewarepalm.com/utilities/capitalizer.shtml
It does what crossingover does, and then some. A great way to restore some of the missing (useful) functionality for G2.
BTW: Of course, I, too have successfully put G1 on my Tungsten E... and with Capitalizer, I have restored the middle-caps-hack capability on my OS5 PDA...
Treo 650
but me dad bought a treo 650 (which i'm happily playing with fer a week, hehe), but i can't seem to change the idiotic thing to run on
graffiti 1, can anyone help? i used the same way to change the clie, but it doesnt work, i even tried renaming the files, but i dont think it lets me.
btw, would appreciate someone sending me the prc for the write anywhere or something. Much thanks :)
G2 to G1 files.
Not so great on Zire 31
Install synchronization failed
Protocol Error: Read-only. (4009)
but what's worse, my Palm now has an all-blank full screen dialog with no writing but a single 'Reset' button at the bottom which doesn't work, and the unit won't respond to any buttons, pwr button included.
Worse still, it gives me the same message after all resets _including_ a full hard reset. I phoned palm support (it's a new pda) and they told me to try running the battery flat, and if that doesn't do it, I'll have to exchange the unit!
Should the battery drain reset work, I'll try installing via writing to the expansion card and moving over with Teal Mover.
Not so bad after all on Zire 31
Moved loaded PRC files for graffiti 1 to SD card, then TealMover'd to RAM and we're off to the races. No more 'l' when I want an 'i'.
Need two files graffiti 1
Regards
Yudo adrian.
yudo@dutakreasi.co.id
Zire 72
nemo me impune lacessit
How to install G1 on a Z22?
Does anyone know of a source of G1 files (Graffiti Library.prc and Graffiti Library_enUS.prc) that work on the Z22?
Many thanks,
David
Graffiti Library.prc, size: 30k, creator: grft
Graffiti Library_enUS.prc,
RE: How to install G1 on a Z22?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Graffiti 2 is terrible. Even when you do get the multiple strokes right, its just plain wrong AND just plain slow. A single tap to go to punctuation mode, and upstroke to do capital... those were just plain right and intuitive. And now... all gone!
RE: How to install G1 on a Z22?
I just purchased a Z22 and am frustrated with Graffiti 2 since I've been using Graffiti 1 for many years. I've tried all of the posted solutions to get Graffiti 1 to work and nothing has been successful. Did anybody ever find a way to get Graffiti 1 to work on the Z22?
Thanks.
RE: How to install G1 on a Z22?
Suggest you download Giraffe and play it to improve your G2. You can get it from here:
http://www.palm.com/us/support/downloads/3csoftware.html
If you play it for 10 minutes a day for about a week, you will find that G2 becomes second nature. That's my experience, anyway.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their profits.
RE: How to install G1 on a Z22?
You know, come to think of it, the success of the Treo and Palm's focus on it rather obviates the fretting over G1/G2 (keyboard). It also gives Palm an excuse to not worry about larger/VGA/OLED screens for the time being-320*320 or lower small square screens on all Treos to date.
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX
RE: How to install G1 on a Z22?
RE: How to install G1 on a Z22?
a link that works
http://zansstuff.com/palm.shtml and look about half way down the page
or here is the direct link http://zansstuff.com/programs/graffiti1.zip
i did this on a Zire 31, copied the files to my memory card first, then copied them to the Zire. After a soft-reset it worked !!!!
die graffiti 2, die!
locks up when doing a soft reset
I have a Palm T|X.
At one time I had successfully loaded Graffiti v1 on it. But I had to do a hard reset. Not sure how I got it to work in the first place. But I'm sure it was some instructions somewhere on the internet. But I can't find the page. And these instructions aren't working for me.
When I try to follow these instructions, it locks up.
I copy the 2 old graffiti files to my card, then to my Palm, then reset. But when I reset, after the orange screen, it locks up on the grey logo screen.
the only way to clear it is to hard reset again.
Any ideas on how to successfully install version 1 of Graffiti??
please, I'm pretty desperate! I'm a LONG TIME Palm user (since 1999) and this new version of Graffiti is killin' me!
RE: locks up when doing a soft reset
here is a paste of my original post...
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a link that works
forestlake @ 12/30/2005 7:14:37 PM #
to get the 2 files you need go to this site
http://zansstuff.com/palm.shtml and look about half way down the page
or here is the direct link http://zansstuff.com/programs/graffiti1.zip
i did this on a Zire 31, copied the files to my memory card first, then copied them to the Zire. After a soft-reset it worked !!!!
die graffiti 2, die!
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hope this is of help!
RE: locks up when doing a soft reset
when I do a Soft Reset - it hangs. The only way to fix it is to Hard Reset, which of course wipes out everything.
RE: locks up when doing a soft reset
I too:
* have a TX
* been using Palm pda since about 1999
* had G1 on my TX
* had to do a hard reset
* cannot get G1 back onto TX
Same symptoms, it locks up after putting the two files onto the TX. I've tried beaming, I've tried Bluetooth, I've tried copying from an SD card (FileZ). Same result each time - lockup after soft reset requiring hard reset.
Did you ever find a solution?
How to do this hack on a T|E2
RE: How to do this hack on a T|E2
Please advice me too !!
RE: How to do this hack on a T|E2
Hope that helps.
need graffiti 1 files
Digital Music. Heart. Power. Passion. Reduced to data.
RE: need graffiti 1 files
Detailed info please from someone with a z22.
thanks
MiddleCaps with Garmin 3600
My first palm was the Handspring Visor and then the Palm 515. The Graffiti 2 is trash, I just could not adjust.
I had the MiddleCaps hack, but that would not work with OS5.2.
I installed CrossOver and that caused a "pen sync error" and would reset every time. So I deleted that.
I now have Capitalizer and that "almost" works. The 1st character on a line is always a number. No matter where my pen is, it comes out as a number. So I have to write my line as I want it but ignore the 1 st number, that go back and delete the number.
Is there a way to make Graffiti 1 and something like MiddleCaps work cleanly?
Thanks,
MrBill
MrBill
why does this not work?
I did notice that the file names are different then the ones already present on my Palm. I even tried renaming them so that they were the same. I just got the same results by doing this. The files available for download say that they work with the TX, and they are very similar devices. I was thinking that the TX though does not have a hardware writing area at the bottom, but rather a software one. But then it says that it works for Z22 and that palm does have a hardware writing area at the bottom of it's screen, so I just don't know!
Any ideas?
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