Comments on: Update on the Palm Gameboy Emulator: Gambit
Maven, the developer working on the Palm Gameboy emulator project, recently released a long awaited email update on his progress with the gameboy emulator. It's new name is Gambit and it currently runs Tetris! Visit this article for the full update. If you want some background information on the project see this PalmInfocenter: exclusive story that broke the news about the Emulator. Now with exclusive screenshots!!!
UPDATE 6/26/00: Gambit is nearing release see this article for more details.
UPDATE 7/7/00: Liberty was released today. Read our review.
UPDATE 8/23/00: Version 1.1 of Liberty is now available.
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RE: Palm Gamboy - IR support
ahh...4-person F1-race championship during boring meetings
RE: Palm Gamboy - IR support
Hmm,a beta test?
ok?if you need to know something,maybe you can letme know?
regards to all,
kevin
Gambit is a Hoax
You suck. :P
RE: Gambit is a Hoax
Show us some screen shots!
for the Palm released some screen shots to show its not
vapor!
RE: Screen shots are up now
Sound?
RE: Sound?
RE: Sound?
RE: Sound?
RE: Name
RE: Name
PälmBöy :>
use the 'accented' characters from the scandanavian languages.. in many english speaking countries they actually look like the normal 'a' and 'o' :>
has 3com protected the use of 'Pälm'? :>
(which of course is not a real word)
RE: Name
I have two words...
RE: I have two words...
But anyway Worms on the GameBoy sucks... Why would you want it emulated on the Palm?
N.B. All ROMs should work, when the final version of Gambit (or any other emulator) is released. Possibly we could get someone to write a .gb|.pdb converter? For purely educational purposes, of course.
unclear points
1. Will Gambit run on older palm units (palm III, palm prof.)?
2. Will Gambit be freeware?
3. How many Kilobytes is gambit now?
4. After the rom is converted, does it change in size?
RE: unclear points
2. you have to buy the ROMs of course
3. under 30k for the emulator + ROM (32k on Tetris) Also requires ~64k working RAM
4. Not really (a few bytes)
RE: unclear points
the really surprising point here is whether Nintendo is going to have something to say about the emulator.
RE: unclear points
2. I have quite a few roms and a orignal gameboy, have you tried any other games?
I think it can be done maven, assembly is not easy and if you have gotten this far sound and large roms are possible.
I was confused if gambit was only being designed for the newer palm processors, I figured I would use Eco-hack for speed enhancement.
I don't want to press you, but can you give a rough estimate on a beta release?
keep up the good work, you are pushing the palm farther than anyone thought.
Hi...Aaron Ardiri
You Guys are LATE
Today is August 30th.
Do the math.
RE: You Guys are LATE
RE: You Guys are LATE
i wrote ports of LodeRunner and Game&Watch classics (Donkie Kong Jr, Parashoot, Octopus and Fire!).
i own a GameBoy, have have numerous roms
(legal, which i have transfered myself) :>
RE: You Guys are LATE
RE: You Guys are LATE
You call someone a fucker because he charges a couple of bucks for excellent games? Beside, would you work months on a project, when you have a full-time job, and then give it away? I really think Gambit should be shareware. I'd buy it for 20$ after testing it to see if it works well.
RE: You Guys are LATE
some real nerve!
if i help Maven - i would have no intentions to make the software shareware, thats his choice.. in order to make it shareware he needs to ensure that more than one ROM is supported :>
as for your "comment" on charging (Mr Anonymous - thats even more lame) - what is $5? did you care to realize that my latest game, Phire! was released as postcard ware?
Two other ports existed, so.. to prevent any conflict with sales.. i released mine for free - but you just had to send me a postcard.. what is so greedy about that? the Phire! implementation is probably close to the original than Fire! or Fire Escape will ever be..
The better program.. but FREE? you do the math.
Then figure out who is greedy.
Some points to ponder
If it is hard enough to get it to run at full GB speed with only tetris, how in the world will it be able to run the other games that actually do something? The Palm isn't a desktop computer with megs of memory and lots of HD space. It is very limited in terms of memory and available space. If you ask me, the speed of the processor isn't the problem, it's the memory available. There are GB emulators for winCE machines because at least they have a decent amount of memory, but the Palm .pdb format has a record size limit of 64k, so any rom images that are usually 300k or more will have to be split up into 64k chunks. Good luck trying to program the emulator to jump all over between the different records. As the original article stated, the general rule is you need at least 3x the original processor speed. Because of the tight memory conditions on the Palm, even 4x won't be enough. But hey, it can run tetris! :)
RE: Some points to ponder
RE: Some points to ponder
I haven't written the paging code yet, but the time shouldn't be any greater than in the real Gameboy.
After doing this emulator, I must say I'm REAL skeptical about the 3x rule. Of course, you can't get a GB emulator for the PC that runs on less than a 33MHz 386, and that's for a hihgly-optimized one. (So that works out to 8x?)
Memory doesn't matter too much, unless you are talking the larger ROMs.
Thanks for the input
Anyway, I'm not going to hold the negative comments against you. I'd be just as skeptical as some of you are.
I'll be glad to continue to answer any questions here that I can.
Have a great day!
-Maven
RE: Thanks for the input
Appreciate the fine work that you're doing with this. I think the general sentiment is that the community in general is fairly skeptical of the possibility of this really happening. How close is Tetris to running at full speed? What kind of time frame are we talking about before a beta is released? ...
If you ever need a tester.. =)
Ronak
RE: Thanks for the input
1 how to get the code from gameboy in 'other system', assuming other system to do the conversion to pdb.
2 thought of clocking the palm? Since speed seems to be an issue, why not clock it, I believe that speeds of up to 23 MHz (maybe even higher) have been achieved, I did get 21 MHz on my test palm (never my live palm, I love the data on it too much :-))
3 looking at the threads here on this page, there are believers and non believers. I think you are one step ahead of the lot. stay there. Given the fact that there are limitations on the portability (ram, mem, code blocking, paging etc.) the end result mey be that some games will work and others will not. But that is not a problem, in the end you win from us all. You did it, and learned the assembly.
Stay easy
Freddy
RE: Thanks for the input
everything. I'm ready to have some fun with it.
Renee
Gambi! en español?
and plz try tu run the rtype clone for game boy is my favorite game ever ..
keep the work..
Palm2048
http://palm2048.cjb.net
RE: Gambi! en español?
emulators
j rumba
rumba@knoggin.com
RE: emulators
RE: emulators
I need to get one....why? Because it's unusual! As unusual as playing Gameboy on a PalmIII!
Keep up the work Maven, you are going to make it!
RE: emulators
Only 2 o 3 seconds.
CD-R are the best.
Palm controls
Bulls*t
Maybe you're missing the point here. The point isn't to find the most sutable platform to emulate the gameboy--It's the thrill and challenge of porting something cool over to a platform we love and admire.
DC
Fast emulation ? imho, never...
I've been programming during the last 10 years in asm for all the 680x0 family, DSP56001, Atari's Jaguar custom chips, PowerPC, VMLabs's ProjectX, ... So, I really know what I'm speaking about. Sorry for the bad news:-(
Now, if 3Com ever releases a Pilot with a faster processor, that's another story...
raphael@brainstorm.fr
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
from talking with Maven & judging by the screen shot's that at least we'll be able to play Tetris and that would be cool with me :-> Just wait and see!
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
That should have no problem with a 4.5M MHz gamboy chip. 8)
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
sorry to burst your bubble! =)
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
Old Roman Proverb:
The one who says it cannot be done should never
interrupt the one doing it.
You perhaps are right. Wait and see though.
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
ultrahle in a pre-processing sort of mode...
could be mistaken
one of the gb emulators was ported directly (true emulation engine)
a while back and was too slow...
but there is no reason why preprocessed "emulation" is not possible or FAST
RE: Fast emulation ? maybe one solution...
HLE ? there is no real ROM in the GB (forget the 256 bytes boot ROM), so, no system calls to replace.. Except if you look through the code, trying to recognize some instruction sequences, which will dependent on the compiler/libraries..., I can't see where HLE could be possible, because there is no HL.
Anyway, with a dynarec, ... that would be a funny project... if only I had some time... Hum, I really like the idea...:-)
raphael@brainstorm.fr
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
1 - You don't know what is Z80 code and what is program datas, so you must keep both recompiled code AND original cartridge on the Pilot. Any data access will use the original code (that's how dynarecs are written).
3 - As you may know, the Z80 is a 8/16-bit processor. This means that big games must switch the current ROM bank. This switching can occur anywhere, even in the middle of a routine. Handling this on a recompiler may cause you some headache (although it IS possible to handle such thing).
2 - The 68000 recompiled code will be much much bigger than the original Z80 code (at least 4 or 5 times bigger). So, a game like Tetris, which takes a 32Kb would be converted to a 160/192Kb file... For games like Zelda (512Kb), I let you do the maths... And anyway, this wouldn't be a Gameboy emulator running on a Pilot, but a game recompiler running under xxx (replace by Windows/Linux/MacOS, or anything or want), which generate a Pilot executable file.
I'm still convinced that emulating a Gameboy with accuracy and a refresh higher than 10 fps, on a 68000@16MHz, is impossible, except maybe using a dynarec. really! Believe me!
I am really curious to know the emulator speed on a game as simple as Tetris... I bet it's not above 5fps (on a 68000@16MHz, remember!). I don't want you to think I'm *the bad guy*, always telling you *tss tss, it's impossible*. But THIS thing, no, really no.
raphael@brainstorm.fr
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
RE: Fast emulation ? imho, never...
handspring has come out with a game pad for the visor.
Why not just get ram chips for gameboy?
color; it has great games and it has speed. Why can't
someone write some programs for it to run Palm like
programs and keep the data on cards that are inter-
changeable with the games? It would mean three gameboys
in the house instead of two (for the kids...)
RE: Why not just get ram chips for gameboy?
Gambit !
my way to work on the bus. I can't wait for this
great peice of software to come out, it'll make my
travels a hell of alot better to deal with
Thank you !
P-r0t
Re/ Gambit:
Thanks for the hard work!
-d.
Where to get the Gameboy game programs
I just wonder where we could get the Gameboy game programs. I have a number of the game packets. But how I can 'transfer' them onto my PalmPilot?
The Gambit Project!
I was a big user of the Gameboy in college and I am not suprised that it is still with us. I know many parents and employers will find Gambit to be a headache because it will become so addictive. Also, you have to consider the fact that this the entertainment quality of the PalmPilot to the next level. I hope this project will be ready before X-mas because I am ready for a beta test of Gambit.
Name for GAMBIT --> how about PBoy
GAMBIT is a strange name...
how about PBoy
P for PalmPilot / Palm
Boy for GameBOY
Game boy emulator
Tom
A serious set of Q's from a non-pilot-user...
Forgive me for any ignorance here, the closest I've ever really gotten to a Palm is my little Three-kilobyte name/phone no. organiser, but I do aspire to one.. :)
The below stuff is to do with topics I've seen discussed above - my browser's running far too slowly for me to waste time replying individually... :)
Q: To me at least, the Palm looks to only have four (mayyybe five) buttons on it -- how can it do A/B/Start/Select plus D-pad and an emulator-menu button? Does some of it get taken over by that funky onscreen keyboard?
Thought: Speed shouldn't really be a problem with the right code. I've seen Sinclair Spectrum emulators (british computer, similar architecture to GB but larger screen, in colour, about 80% speed and one-channel sound) running on various slow machines at or near 100% speed... Does about 70% on a good day on a 12mhz 286 PC (1.1mb) I recently retired, and allegedly 80-90% on an Atari ST --- running a 68000 at EIGHT megahertz, with 1mb memory [heheh, intel chips are just so much slower per mhz... :) ]. Take that and stick it somewhere.... :D So gameboy performance should be hopefully similar. I heard of a windows 95 emulator that was slow and jerky running Tetris on a P90, but it was long ago, alpha versions of both the emu and the OS.
Challenge: A palm-like environment on the GB. The screen resolutions are similar aren't they (maybe?)? Plus with a bank-switching chip and some cheap 30pin simms shoehorned into a slightly oversize cartridge along with a well programmed ROM you could quite easily have 4mb to play with and a decent WIMP-style OS. I've already seen a commerically produced package that includes a mini-keyboard that plugs into the serial port, a little stand for the GB and a cartridge with a few K's of RAM, turning it effectively into a flashier version of my £4.99 organiser. Now with the arrival of the colour gameboy something a bit more advanced could be possible. I'm thinking maybe a word processor? :) Using that "cleartype" LCD edge-smoothing software technology it could be quite usable. Any takers? I've been doodling some little designs in idle moments over the past few months but I just don't have access to the right kind of knowledge or equipment. TV out on either the GB or Palm would be interesting as well.
(I hope this doesn't come out too long once word-wrapped. It hasn't even started to scroll down in this input box.)
Thankyou for your time.
DAMMIT -- this place suffers from the segfault non-previewing HTML layout problem.
Horribly
Horribly
WRONG
I would cut'n'paste'n'edit'n'repost my original message but I really can't be bothered. See if you can spot where the line breaks were originally supposed to be....
Hell, I hope my attempts at layout worked THIS time!
RE: A serious set of Q's from a non-pilot-user...
but I have a million other things planned.
As for some of your Q's the Palm has 4 buttons and
an up/down lever Maven discusses his button layout in the interview. The pull up keyboard won't be availible if he's using greyscale which
he is. And Lastly I do feel confident that the emu speed will be descent.
Release the beta already!
Gameboy Game Cartridges
RE: Gameboy Game Cartridges
RE: Gameboy Game Cartridges
You Shearch for the rom of the game and then you need gabit the emulator that is not released @ the time so.....
PS: Make sure you have the cartridges before you download the rom or you well be doing a illegal act.
Updates
Why don't you have an update page that people can take a look at to keep track of your progress on this very exciting development. I think it would lend a lot of credibility to the project and would give users a better idea of how much longer it will take to finish the code. I'd be happy to help in any such effort.
A frequently updated progress page for Gambit would rock!
for the gambit would really rock! I think ya doin a great job
Maven! keep up the good work! I really can't wait for the
first release of the emulator Gambit! perhaps we can
have a logo design contest for the emu??
Gambit
Gameboy PDA Combos...
to me, and I look forward to seeing what he comes up
with (though when I read that he's thinking about just
releasing it so that it works with Tetris, that was
kinda disheartening... you ARE going to see this thing
through to completion, aren't you Maven?)
As some alternatives to Maven's work, I give you the
following:
- Handspring's Visor: Essentially, a really cool Palm
device with a cartridge interface (the Springboard)
for practically any hardware device you can dream up.
I'd like to see some enterprising individual create
a GameBoy adapter... you plug the adapater into the
Springboard slot, and then a GameBoy cartridge into
the adapter. The adapter might have some additional
processing power built into it, to give the Visor a
boost. It would be pretty slick if Nintendo saw the
potential in this, but unfortunately, I think it
might hurt the development of the second product I
give you...
- GameBoy Advance: The next generation of GameBoys,
coming out in about a year. This thing is a 32-bit,
color, gaming platform, with all the functionality
(address book, calendar, modem and Internet apps)
of a PDA. It supposedly will be in the sub-$100
price range to boot. I'm REALLY looking forward to
this one.
Will buy when it's out
Cart Interface?
Would it be feasible to create an adapter that clips on the Palm serial port, and allows a Gameboy cart to be plugged in the other side? This would allow a user to download a ROM image from the cart to play: You could take carts with you on the road, and not have to worry about having a pdb pre-loaded for every game you'd want to play.
I'm a HW engineer, and would be interested in looking into developing it, if you think it could be supported.
RE: Cart Interface?
RE: Cart Interface?
Of course you would have to write the software to read it, and I these are made to work on the PC so I am not sure if it could work on a Pilot.
In any case check out :
http://209.15.33.241/prod/prod.php3?group=backup&lang=en&curr1=usd&country=US
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Their homepage is :
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Its now november...
TI 8x emulation?
Take a look at http://www.ticalc.org" CLASS=NEWS>http://www.ticalc.org for information regarding these calcs.
Like I said, this might be asking for alot. Since there are some differences between the GB and a TI-86 (both in hardware and code), it would be nice to play all those games.
And while we are asking for seemingly impossible things, why not also emulate the TI-89/TI-92+ also...
RE: TI 8x emulation?
Palmboy
Phillip Lewis
defunct?
i'd love to be playing with this toy or beta-testing it, but even knowing it *isn't* going to be released would be useful information, IMHO.
RE: Hello?
RE: Hello?
Gambit on alt.binaries.warez.palmpilot
Gambit was played successfully on the first try on my 8meg handspring visor, and did not crash the system – and was stable throughout the entire gameplay.
I was impressed on how easy it was to play - Very clever using the "calculator" for start and "find" for select. The up-down was of course up and down, and left right was the phone/to do list. A&B was the calendar and notepad. This provided an acceptable gamepad to play from and was not at all awkward. Exiting was a bit tricky – I had to hit the menu key first, and then applications to exit.
No sound. Graphics were exactly the same as the original gameboy - but looked even better on the larger palm screen. The bricks of course had some “ghosting” – but this is due to the palm screen, and not a fault of the emulator.
Tetris ran a bit slower than original gameboy, but playable. This will be the biggest issue to work on if other games are to be playable. This should be the primary issue instead of emulating any sort of sound.
No menu system installed - so you can only play tetris for now. I'm sure that a suitable front end will be developed.
All in all a great emulator – with speed being the only downfall.
I applaud Maven for a wonderful emulator and hope he continues the great work, but warn that commercial roms should never be posted with emulators. I’m sure this was a leak from one of the beta testers, and not Maven himself. There are a lot of great emulator programmers out there that find themselves in legal trouble when they release them (just ask the Bleem crew for playstation or the UltraHLE team for Nintendo 64).
A question to Maven: Are you planning to release the source code as many other emulator authors have done?
RE: Gambit on alt.binaries.warez.palmpilot
RE: Gambit on alt.binaries.warez.palmpilot
RE: Gambit on alt.binaries.warez.palmpilot
email adress only if you somehow either tell me or if you write your email doewn:(.
The above is bulls**t posted by the author.
You suck. :P
RE: Transfer .gb to .pdb
RE: Transfer .gb to .pdb
1) allows downloading of ROM images to pbds directly into the Palm from the cart and
2) Only allows a ROM image pdb to played if the original cart is plugged in
would help concerns over legal issues of copying and distributing pirated ROM images?
RE: Transfer .gb to .pdb
RE: Transfer .gb to .pdb
I'd be interested in looking into this. I'm a professional hardware engineer and always looking for something fun when work is slow. Plus I'd like to see Gambit available, and the less legal hurdles the more likely I see that happening!
I'm not crazy about posting my email, as I'm sure you aren't either, so I've created a deja account. I'd appreciate a chance to get in touch with you (and will need some SW help w/ simple serial apps during development).
You can email me at >weknews@my-deja.com<
and I will reply from my regular email.
Cheers
Gambit dead?
RE: Gambit dead? - Not yet...
RE: Gambit dead?
RE: Gambit dead?
do you have an homepage, wehre i can download the latest version and roms of GAMBIT ?
please post answere here
THANKS !
RE: Gambit dead?
I've been waiting a while. Have not seen jack squat.
Fake?
RE: Gambit dead?
RE: Gambit dead?
Its been close to a month since his last post so, either he's busy making money
at a REAL job or things simply didn't pan out. Gambit is DEAD! long live Gambit!!!
RE: Gambit dead?
Its been close to a month since his last post so, either he's busy making money
at a REAL job or things simply didn't pan out. Gambit is DEAD! long live Gambit!!!
Where is Gambit ?
RE: Gambit dead?
You'll find the answers to all your questions.
Cool Stuff
loggger
R.I.P
What I heard...
RE: What I heard...
RE: What I heard...
See for yourself:
http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=gambitstudios.com&STRING=Search" CLASS=NEWS TARGET=_NEW>http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=gambitstudios.com&STRING=Search
RE: What I heard...
RE: What I heard...
RE: What I heard...
I think it would be advantageous for Nintendo to have a cart adapter for the Palm. First off, it can help prevent piracy if it requires the cart to start the game. Secondly, most home/portable game console manufacturers make their money off game sales. The actual console profit margins are slim to none.
Gambit
RE: Gambit
RE: Gambit
RE: Gambit
What about Pokemon? The ROMs are available on the web all over the place, and there appears no reason why Gambit couldn't handle this IMHO, after all, its not dependent upon fast reactions or rapid user input.
The main problem would seem to be me justifying exactly why I would want to play Pokemon
Best of luck!
heh
FizzY
RE: heh
This sucks. Bite my ass, "Maven"
RE: heh
kev
RE: heh
There are none! It isn't illegal to make an emulator
see the bleem court case, it is only illegal to make
the roms without permission. If it isnt vapor, send
it to fizzy@brum2600.org and i will personally denounce it,
somehow i doubt i will get it tho!
Love always,
your in scepticism,
FizzY
to be, or not to be :P
nice to see everyone talking about this still :). i would like to make one thing clear. This thing is not vapourware. It does exist, and the 0.9 version distributed on the warez scene is NOT the latest version - which was limited to running only tetris. Keep assured that Maven is working on this product, going through legal issues and making sure that the emulator is something that you will want to use.
I have been in contact with Maven regarding 'Gambit' - and dont be surprised when you see the final release. More is going on behind the scenes than you think :)
Who knows, maybe even a color version is in progress :P *grin*
Aaron Ardiri
ardiri@palmgear.com
RE: to be, or not to be :P
I would really be interested in doing this! I develop much more complicated hardware for a living.
Hell yes!
I'm Sick And Tired
RE: I'm Sick And Tired
Remember, everybody's complaining because they think it would be really cool and they want it NOW! It was probably not the best idea to hype it so long before it would be available. This is often a big mistake in industry: if you annouce something pretty cool/useful and then keep delaying the release, it can backfire on you.
We appreciate that he is working on it, but would like him to finish working on it ASAP! :)
Hopefully a little bugging may help that release date move along....
So, chill out BrianX124. You aren't doing Maven any favors by adding more negativity to the association of this product, blasting people who are already frustrated by the continuing unavailability of Gambit.
One wants people to be excited and anticipating a product, not frustrated, torqued off, and feeling like they are owed something impossibly grand when it finally comes out because they've waited so long.
Hey Maven. Say somthin
"Whoops, Wrecked the Ferrari"
I'm starting to take the sides of all the people saying its vapor ware. Just say somethin man. Like news or somthing. Keep us informed.
RE: Hey Maven. Say somthin
RE: Palm Pilot Gameboy Emu
RE: Palm Pilot GameboyEmu
The REAL Maven this time
Gameboy Emu
Maven, you alive mate?
REALLY looking forward to it, though!
RE: Maven, you alive mate?
http://www.gambitstudios.com/login.asp" CLASS=NEWS TARGET=_NEW>http://www.gambitstudios.com/login.asp
there is a log in on it! But I don't think Maven is out of bed yet, after all the states are 5 to 7 hours behind, probably still having breakfast :) yum
Gameboy emulator
I am all behind someone trying to make this work but saying that the delay is for final testing of what is just a game emulator which can be re-released without any problem later if there are any problems does not inspire confidence.
This is obviously a hoax.
RE: Gameboy emulator
http://www.gambitstudios.com/announce.htm" CLASS=NEWS TARGET=_NEW>http://www.gambitstudios.com/announce.htm
also since we all know how development in general can always take more time than expected, you can't expect a release date for a free product, I mean look at Daikitana (well maybe not a good comparison but you get the point)
RE: Gameboy emulator
RE: Gameboy emulator - NOT A HOAX!
Gameboy games
Latest Word
SLEEP deprevation
I am getting sick of people complaining about when a release will be available and such.. Maven and myself have been working overtime this week.. i was moving house and coding on the bus when taking stuff back and forth.
Sure there are other gameboy emulators out there, but maven and i have joined forces to bring the BEST of the BEST to you. you will not be dissapointed with the results! if you know my games, expect the same quality!
sleep is for loosers :))
i wish my fiancee would think the same :P
// az
ardiri@palmgear.com
Few Questions
1. Will Gambit be freeware?
2. Will Gambit studios continue to make more software?
3. Will Gambit Studios ever expand to having other programmers?
4. Will GS ever make applications for any other OS's?
Thats it! Thanks for your time!
-Brian
(If Gambit Studios is ever going to ask for other programmers for no pay, please contact me at brianx124@mindspring.com)
Special Request
Could I beg a favor from you guys? There are now 172 comments to this story and this page takes about 30 seconds to download and open on my cable modem. I shudder to think how long it takes to open for people with regular modems. Could you post any future comments to this story here:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1041" CLASS=NEWS TARGET=_NEW>http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1041
Incidentally, Ryan is hard at work developing an actual threaded message board for the site so problems like this shouldn't re-occur.
Thanks!
-Ed
Whoops Posted 2
-Brian
RE: illegal
RE: illegal
very slow
other options
1: Handspring Visor Deluxe.(storage would be no problem)
2: Palm IIIc. (color support)
3: Palm VII.
These all use the Palm OS.
someone correct me if i am wrong but aren't the CPUs in these faster then the Palm III?
I am really looking forward to the release of Gambit.
Does it support gbc roms?
RE: Does it support gbc roms?
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