HP Holding a WebOS Event Feb 9th

3:12PM Kara: So the phone?

Jon: We have a variety of products coming out. Next year we'll have a very different conversation.

3:12PM Kara: Okay, so when is your phone coming out? Is the Palm name going to continue?

Jon: What do you think?

Kara: No, kill it.

Jon: Okay you heard it here first. You know honestly I have no allegiance to it. It has some good connotations, it has some bad.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/07/jon-rubinstein-live-from-d-dive-into-mobile/

http://www.aboutwebos.com/2010/12/08/rubinstein-palm-brand-may-not-be-carried-over/

Thanks for the link Gekko. He said it .... It's truly over. If they were going to use itl he would never say it had bad connotation or is just a benign name. Over.

Why don't they sell the name? Geeeesh, a lot of commoners still think highly of Palm, Pilot, & Treo. iI guess that would just feed a direct competitor.

Tears.
Pat Horne

Or this just means there will be both HP and Palm devices. Maybe their WebOS tablet will still be HP and their WebOS phones will be Palm. "Palm" for a tablet doesn't make much sense anyhow. Call tablets "HP Pad" and handhelds/phones "HP Palm".

I'd hate to see HP toss the Palm name as it holds quite a bit of value in the mobile world. Compare that to WebOS - which almost nobody has heard of. The average Joe Schmoe out there thinks of Palm as, "didn't they used to make some neat PDAs - whatever happened to them?" In contrast, the average Joe Schmoe out there says, "WebOS? WTF is that??? I've heard of the iPhone, and I know there's this Google/Android thing, and Microsoft has phones - WTF is a WebOS? I ain't buying that."

If HP is planning to cash in on the "WebOS" name, they're even bigger idiots than I thought.

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Lol - guess not!

So HP is planning an announcement event for AFTER the Verizon iPhone debuts. Sounds like the same fantastic timing Palm doomed itself with when locking Sprint into an exclusive on the Pre until after Christmas so Google's breakthrough Android could make all the VZW sales.

Only Palm fanatics wait in anticipation of WebOS announcements, the rest of the world has simply moved on.

BTW, I am still a Palm user as my wife has a Centro and I have a Treo 650 but I have a hard time believing WebOS will ever be anything more than a niche product at this point. Palm had their shot with the Pre but they blew it by giving Sprint an exclusive. Game, Set, and Match.

Story of my life, dad bought Betamax when everyone had a VHS, I had an Odyssey2 when everyone had Atari 2600, and I used Lotus Improv when everyone was switching to Excel (Improv still blows Excel away).

Actually as "PC guys" they have one thing that the others don't have. They could supply a mini PC as an accessory that can be your own personal private cloud device. They can make them small enough to be slightly larger than a large wall wart. All it needs to do is have it connect to the internet and provide "cloud" services like storage, etc for people that do not want their information on the cloud like private businesses. All they'd need to provide is a server that will keep track of IP addresses and let the phone device know what the current IP address is sort of like a DNS service so that only that user's phone or phones can use that storage and they can have complete control over their data.

I may be old fashioned, but I don't believe that I should trust service providers more than I have to.

Reverend - why don't you get this?

http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att

That is a smokin' hot device I must admit. According to CES announcements, is ATT saying that they are deploying HSPA+ (rebranded 4G) in all current 3G markets? Now, or when?
Pat Horne

Dan Lyons is right!

Apple will only sell 12 million iphones on Verizon this year in addition to 60 million ipads.

The company will be ruined!!! LOL!

Agreed; what a nut-job.

While I would say that any judgment about an Android versus iPhone platform battle is premature, it does pay to remember history. Apple is one company, producing one line of hardware. If they don't produce what you want... well, tough luck. Want a phone with a keyboard? No. Want a flip phone? No. Want a netbook? No. Want a 5" tablet? No.

This was what happened with Palm and the Treo. They had one device--extremely popular, yes, but one device. If you wanted anything else, you had to go to Windows Mobile. The same is true with Apple. If you want anything but their buttonless tablets, you have to buy Android. And you can do so for considerably cheaper than you can buy an iPhone.

Now, Apple has advantages Palm never had in the form of their ecosystem, iTunes, and their massive brand recognition. However, they'd be most unwise not to recognize that Android poses a very real threat to them, by undercutting their prices, absorbing large parts of the low and middle range phone market, and providing a far broader diversity of devices. I'm willing to bet you that most people who switch between the two platforms are going from Apple to Android, not the other way around.