Quickies: Lemmings, Training, Chicago, Sacramento

ardiri.com has released a demo of their latest piece of work, Lemmings for the Palm OS. It is actively pursuing a license to officially release the full application. -Aaron Ardiri

3-Lib, producers of the world's only Training CD for Palm OS, have upgradedit to include MultiMail SE, including real-time footage of handling POP3 email. It is priced at 20 ($34) each, including worldwide postage and packing. -Steve Litchfield

The Chicago Palm Programmers Group will be meeting on Wednesday, October 17 at 6:30 pm. Aaron Vesperman will present on his experience developing the Springboard module for the The Vezmen Project -Karen Jeffrey

Palm, Inc is coming to the Sacramento Palm Users Group (SacPUG) Meeting, on October 17 at 7:00 pm. The representative from Palm will be bringing just about every Palm device out there, and attendees may just get a sneak peek of a new and upcoming machine. -Renee Roberts

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Somthing missing in Lemmings...

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/16/2001 9:15:23 AM #
... high resolution on Sony Clie...

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/16/2001 9:59:41 AM #
Actually,there is something missing, the speed-up and slow-down buttons. Before there were '+' and '-' icons.

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
fleegle @ 10/16/2001 1:56:37 PM #
I'd also like to see it be hi-res compatible for the HandEra 330.

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/16/2001 2:32:19 PM #
Whether it is worth it for game makers to add special support for the righ-res CLIE is a good question. The 760 and 610 make up maybe 5 percent of Palm sales which is low for a developer to maybe double the work of developing the game.but lots of game players prefer the CLIE so there may be more market there than the first number shows.

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
ardiri @ 10/16/2001 2:33:21 PM #
I'd also like to see it be hi-res compatible for the HandEra 330.


it already is :) it natively supports 240x240 :)

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
SilliconMan @ 10/16/2001 4:24:15 PM #
Wheres the hires for the Clie!

Hey ardiri, you would make a fortune (like you already do...) if you made a program to run Handera Hires apps in Hires on the Clie (and vice versa). It may not be very nice looking, but it would be a good thing!

Palming away.....

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
ardiri @ 10/16/2001 4:47:40 PM #
Hey ardiri, you would make a fortune (like you already do...) if you made a program to run Handera Hires apps in Hires on the Clie (and vice versa). It may not be very nice looking, but it would be a good thing!

theoretically it would be nice ... but, in order to do this, we would have to trap the system calls that the handera SDK uses.. one problem.. you cannot patch a SDK routine unless it already exists on the device :P see the problem? :P

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/17/2001 2:12:44 AM #
>Whether it is worth it for game makers to add special >support for the righ-res CLIE is a good question. The >760 and 610 make up maybe 5 percent of Palm sales >which is low for a developer to maybe double the work >of developing the game.but lots of game players >prefer the CLIE so there may be more market there >than the first number shows.

Assuming that you're right about 5% (and that means that half of Sony's sales come from the S320, may be a reasonable guess), I can guarantee you that the number of owners of 6x0 and 7x0 Clies combined exceeds the number of HandEra330 users.

I'm surprised they chose the HandEra support over the Clie support, and somewhat disappointed as a 750 user. However, this is just a demo, and a lot of things can change by release time I'm sure

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/17/2001 5:40:08 AM #
The last several days, CNET has posted several articles that mention the NDP or NPD or whatever saying that Sony has 10% of the PalmOS Market. NOT 5%.

It's also mentioned in the S320 price cut article here in PalmInfoCenter.

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/17/2001 9:23:18 AM #
Sony has 10%. Sony's average selling price was $275. Its models that have the hi-res screen cost $400 or $500. The S320, without hi-res, costs <$200. From the ave. price, looks like half their sales are S320. Half of 10% is 5%.

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
ardiri @ 10/17/2001 9:37:43 AM #
I'm surprised they chose the HandEra support over the Clie support, and somewhat disappointed as a 750 user. However, this is just a demo, and a lot of things can change by release time I'm sure.


oh, but dont you know? i sleep with Handera :) heh. actually, the Handera is not exactly compatable with "games" as much as the Sony units are. using direct screen access on a Handera gives you a load of "garbage" on the screen. this is an issue that needed to be fixed prompto :) the Sony units, although they do have a 320x320 resolution, support existing 160x160 games without any glitches at all (unless you turn on the hires assistant).


but, dont fret! right this minute, i am experimenting with the 320x320 hires mode! *g* it may not be what you want, but, i can throw it out for comments.. just wait a few hours, and a new version will be out :P



// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/

RE: Somthing missing in Lemmings...
ardiri @ 10/17/2001 9:42:06 AM #
PS: i own a lot of Palm devices, and, my currently "active" PDA is a Sony n760c :) so, you'll get hi res eventually :) i want it.

PPS: now all the "trolls", dont go saying "ardiri uses a SONY" and bash Palm and Handera, because, when a new device comes out, i'll switch [and, that wont be too far away] :) gotta love the mp3 playback tho *g*

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/

Lemmings is appropriate for Palms

TDS @ 10/16/2001 9:38:51 AM #
Lemmings was created originally for the Commodore Amiga in the late 80's - The amiga used the 68000 series CPU that is the direct predecessor to the dragonball CPU. This will be like "coming home" for us ex-Amigans. For you young'uns who have never heard of an Amiga, check out www.amiga.com . The Amiga was multitasking, animating and had stero sound back when the PC was a monochrome beast running Windows 1.0

RE: Lemmings is appropriate for Palms
ardiri @ 10/17/2001 9:44:40 AM #
The Amiga was multitasking, animating and had stero sound back when the PC was a monochrome beast running Windows 1.0

oh boy, is this the Palm? :)

i think one of the best reasons for lemmings being appropriate for the Palm, instead of something like the GameBoy(tm) is that you have a stylus! tap tap tap.. assign tasks.. tap tap tap.. :) just makes its easier..

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/

Where's exit on the first demo level? :)

Geo @ 10/16/2001 11:42:39 AM #
I played all the PC Lemmings games but it's been so long.

Can someone tell me where the exit goal is on the first demo level? I assumed you were just trying to get them to burrow through that hill on the right side and walk right off the screen but when I do that there's just an endless number of lemmings walking off screen and the level doesn't end. I seem to remember exits being more clearly marked in the PC games.

RE: Where's exit on the first demo level? :)
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/16/2001 1:05:10 PM #
The window is scrollable just like the original game in the PC and Amiga. Scroll using the grafitti area. :)

RE: Where's exit on the first demo level? :)
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/16/2001 2:30:58 PM #
The exit is the same stone pyramid that's on the PC game. It is way, way off to the right.

RE: Where's exit on the first demo level? :)
ardiri @ 10/16/2001 2:34:18 PM #
you can scroll by using the grafitti area (all devices except Handera 330), or, use the jog dial (be sure to turn off jog dial assist on sony's) or... drag the stylus to the sides of the screen.. if you push off, it'll scroll :) fun fun fun :)

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/
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