Wordsmith 2.1 Coming Very Soon

Wordsmith 2.1 was originally scheduled to be out by the end of November but Blue Nomad has licensed the spell-checking engine from a third-party developer and has been working with them to improve its performance. One beta tester calculated it was running at slightly less than two words per second. According to a company spokesperson, it is close to releasing the application "as-is". The release day will likely either be tomorrow or Friday.

Update: WordSmith 2.2.1 has been released and a review is available.

In order to not further delay the release of 2.1, Blue Nomad will continue to work with the third party developer and will provide a free update to the spell-checker when available.

Users have a choice about whether to install the spell checker and any dictionaries. Two are available, one large and one small.

Less troublesome new features of Wordsmith 2.1 are a thesaurus and virtual file system (VFS) support. It will ship with a carbonized Mac OS Wordsmith desktop application that runs natively under OS X, and FineType Manager, which allows users to delete, beam and preview Blue Nomad FineType fonts.

When available, it will cost $30. It is a free upgrade for all current users. A beta is available for members of the Wordsmith Yahoo group.

I'm curious , would you install a very slow spell checker? -Ed

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Xian @ 12/11/2001 2:15:24 PM #
Ed, maybe a justification for a long coffee break? ;)

RE: Well
popko @ 12/11/2001 2:43:12 PM #
yeah ... I almost fall asleep waitting for version2.1 ;)

RE: Well
Altema @ 12/11/2001 3:12:36 PM #
Would I install a slow spell checker? Yes, if the dictionary remained on the card, would let you add words to the dictionary, and did not degrade performance when not in use. This is assuming it is the type that you request the spellcheck when you want it performed. The worst case would be one that works as you type, and drags the system speed down while your are trying to bang something out quickly. It's funny, I was thinking of asking about the WS upgrade this morning, and was at their website checking for the new version a few minutes ago (been checking every few days). The most valuable feature for me will be the VFS support, just hope they don't make you lup all docs on the card together like DTG, without the ability to catergorize.

RE: Well
Ronin @ 12/11/2001 4:06:22 PM #
Altema:

There is a review on the Writing On Your Palm site which summarizes all of the new features in WordSmith 2.1 and addresses your question regarding the categorization of files stored using VFS, it appears that Blue Nomad has addressed this issue. The link is http://www.writingonyourpalm.net/column011126.htm

BTW, I suspect (no inside knowledge) that the next upgrade to DTG will add this missing feature to the documents stored using VFS as it has been complained about quite vocally.

RE: Well
Altema @ 12/11/2001 4:24:31 PM #
Thanks!

RE: Well
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 6:33:24 PM #
This article also states that documents stored on expansion cards will not be synchronized. Can anyone verify if this is true or not? Personally, it's more important to me to be able to sync documents on a card than to categorize them. I'm curious what others think about that.

Also, in terms of being able to open files directly from the card, it's always seemed to me that WS creates a "working copy" of a file that it opens, in addition to the original file. Is this still the case and if so, where does it create that file when you open it from the card? If I have a 300k file on my card and 100k free on my device, will I be able to open and edit the file?

RE: Well
Ronin @ 12/11/2001 8:15:49 PM #
I was disturbed by the implication that the documents stored on the card would not be synchronized with the desktop as well, but I have decided to reserve judgment until I can test out a demo of the final version to see for myself. I know that DTG does sync documents on the card, so it is possible.

As far as the editing is concerned, it appears that the only way that VFS allows for these read/write files to work from the card is for the entire document to be copied to the main memory. It does appear that files that are read-only can be loaded on to main memory in chunks to allow access when main memory is less than the full size of the file. So as far as I know, unless Blue Nomad has found away around this, WS will require that the entire file load into main memory from the card (I hope that this transfer is not too slow as WS is not exactly a speed demon at opening files now).

I should note that this is much the same way that files are handled on a computer. You must have enough RAM (including any virtual memory) to allow the file to be moved into main memory from the storage medium before it can be edited or read for that matter.

Hope this helps.

RE: Well
Altema @ 12/11/2001 8:36:46 PM #
I was hoping that they would choose to sync the card docs, but it would not be a major problem for me. I'd just keep docs that I'm actively editing in RAM. The card syncing is one of the things I love about DTG. I tried to grab the beta version of WS to explore it myself, but you have to be a member of the Yahoo group. The last group I joined with seemed to open the door to spam on my email account, which was pretty clean until then. Is there an alternate download site for the beta? If not, I'll just wait...

I'd install it.....

Davy @ 12/11/2001 3:39:39 PM #
because Wordsmith doesn't let you use any other spell checkers. They can't really wave around the "word-processor" title until it does everything Word or Appleworks does. Until then, I'd take a slow one, just hoping progress would be made.

RE: I'd install it.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 5:20:46 PM #
"because Wordsmith doesn't let you use any other spell checkers. They can't really wave around the "word-processor" title until it does everything Word or Appleworks does. "

Why not? You've seen what Microsoft calls a word processor on PocketPC? As far as speed improvements, I wouldn't expect much on current hardware.

RE: I'd install it.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 4:03:39 PM #
I agree... fast on current hardware is a not to be expected, when is PalmOS going to move on to ARM? Motorola is just not good enough for newer apps

Yes, I'd install

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 5:18:12 PM #
In fact I have installed. It is slow if you are planning to check your entire document. But it works fine if you just want to check a certain word or paragraph. When you select the spell checker, it gives you the following options:
* Current word
* Current paragraph
* Modified paragraphs
* Cursor to end
* Whole document

RE: Yes, I'd install
volcanopele @ 12/11/2001 6:01:02 PM #
I also have it installed. It is slow, molasses slow but I don't use it that much anyway. I use the spell checker for memos more than anything else.

Jason


VFS support

fleegle @ 12/11/2001 6:11:03 PM #
Some people take "VFS support" to mean the ability to read and edit files which reside on external memory cards. I take it only as the ability to read the files on external memory cards. Which is the correct definition? I hope someday we do have the ability to edit the files on the memory cards.

And, speaking of definitions, what the heck does a "carbonized Mac OS Wordsmith desktop application" mean? I looked up carbonized on m-w.com (the online Merriam-Webster dictionary) and it came up with:

1. to convert into carbon or a carbonic residue.

2. carburize (to combine or impregnate [as metal] with carbon.)


RE: VFS support
druce @ 12/11/2001 6:48:01 PM #
"Carbon" is an API used with MacOSX. This just means that the PC portion of the Wordsmith application will run natively on MacOSX (and not in MacOS9 emulation mode).

"Carbonized" applications will run in both versions of the MacOS.

RE: VFS support
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 10:53:23 PM #
With the current betas, (on the clie that is) you can edit docs directly from the memory stick... but on the 610 so far (dunno about the 320/t415)
as for the 710/760 there is a bug and you can not edit directly from the memory stick.

Wordsmith beta 2.148ae21

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 8:38:00 PM #
Does this new "version" have anything substantial besides bug fixes? Maybe people are accustomed to this idea of "newer versions." The idea of this being a Mac-friendly application doesn't make me rest easy, either. Which market is driving Wordsmith?

RE: Wordsmith beta 2.148ae21
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 9:29:19 PM #
    Does this new "version" have anything substantial besides bug fixes?
What? Did you read the article at ALL? Did you happen to notice the three paragraphs talking about the new ability to perform a spell check? Or how about the mention of a thesaurus? Just a bug fix update my a$$.

RE: Wordsmith beta 2.148ae21
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 3:04:06 AM #
From the subject line I would presume the original poster meant "are there any major changes in beta 2.148ae21 as opposed to beta 2.135cd14," and not "are there any changes in beta 2.148ae21 as opposed to 2.0."

RE: Wordsmith beta 2.148ae21
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 4:08:21 AM #
You have a problem with an app that is Mac friendly?

Not everyone looks at life through Windows flavoured spectacles...

Thankfully...



Why the heck is this news?

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 9:27:30 PM #
You might as well run headlines that say "Docs to Go - New Version Coming Soon!" or "Quickoffice v.19 - Watch for It!" Now, if Wordsmith actually releases, maybe that's news. Otherwise this is just vaporware, or at best reporting that's unfair to the other alternative programs.

RE: Why the heck is this news?
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 9:35:59 PM #
This is a followup story to the report during COMDEX that they would be releasing 2.1 in late November. Some of us like WordSmith and are eagerly awaiting the upgrade and appriciate the "news".

RE: Why the heck is this news?
Ed @ 12/11/2001 9:36:34 PM #
If you are accusing me of favoritism to Wordsmith, I have to point out that this wasn't a particularly complimentary article about it and the people at Blue Nomad aren't exactly thrilled that I wrote it.

If Cutting Edge, the people who make Quickoffice, announce that a new version is going to be out by the end of the month and nothing appears weeks after the deadline, they'll be news, too. And I'm sure they'll be just as thrilled as Blue Nomad is.

Also, take a look at our poll on what is the most popular word processor:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/pollresult.asp?ID=23
You'll see that Wordsmith got more than twice as many votes as anyone else. Like it or not, Wordsmith is an important application to a great many people and that makes it news.

---
News Editor

RE: Why the heck is this news?
Altema @ 12/11/2001 9:42:29 PM #
I have been waiting for this news ever since the original announcement, and have been checking their website every few days. I use WordSmith a lot, at work for documentation, at home as an ebook reader, and in classes as my word processor (you're never too old to learn!). Sometimes I'll write for hours on end. For most of my stuff the spell checker is the only missing feature I really need (you're never too old to make mistakes!).

RE: Why the heck is this news?
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/11/2001 11:17:48 PM #
You're right, Ed, the article isn't particularly flattering to Blue Nomad and WordSmith. If I was Quickoffice or DTG I wouldn't want the same kind of coverage either! Sorry about the gut reaction, didn't mean to imply anything of anyone.

RE: Why the heck is this news?
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 3:06:13 AM #
Aside from all of Ed's points, "coming soon" IS news these days. Just read the papers: "Fed expected to cut rates next week," "Lord of the Rings to open next week," "Gamecube to be released on November 17..."

RE: Why the heck is this news?
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 11:23:32 AM #
If popularity is one of your criteria for reporting on a new release, how come you haven't yet reported on any of the new releases from Kyle Poole (now Crimson Fire)?

Kyle's original Kyle's Quest was one of the most widely acclaimed, and widely played games for the Palm. Since it's release, Kyle has continued to produce of innovative and very enjoyable games. Yet, I have never seen a story from Palm Infocenter on anything Kyle has ever done, although I frequently see items regarding games from his less successful competitors.

Most recently, Kyle has released a sequel to his smash hit Kyle's Quest: Kyle's Quest 2, as well as a new version of his very innovative Galactic Realms, and a brand new exciting & very promising adventure game called Solskia.

I look forward to reading more about them on your site in the near future.

--Charlie
(an admitted Kyle Poole fan)

RE: Why the heck is this news?
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 11:40:49 AM #
Still don't see why this is news. The note is in no way flattering to Blue Nomad, I think it's more like bad press or the need for palminfocenter to put something in a headline. The right thing to do would have been an interview with Blue Nomad and ask directly what's going on.

Hey Charlie
digilaw @ 12/12/2001 5:59:35 PM #
Cut Ed some slack and pay attention the the site if your going to mouth off (though I am/was exceited to see KQ2 come out as well). That KQ2 was release was reported in a "quickies" on Dec 11.

Multi-language support.....

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 9:51:00 AM #
Well, for me and 1.2 billion more, it is Chinese. But then multi-language support is long overdue.

2.1 is released.

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 3:24:46 PM #
The web page still says 2.01a, but when you download and install it, you get 2.1.

RE: 2.1 is released.
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 4:37:45 PM #
Thanks!! Though the manual I got is for 2.01.

RE: 2.1 is released.
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 7:28:52 PM #
My manual is 2.1 in my download.

RE: 2.1 is released.
Ed @ 12/12/2001 10:37:46 PM #
WordSmith 2.2.1 is officially available from Blue Nomad. You can get a copy of it here:
http://www.bluenomad.com/ws/prod_wordsmith_download.html

I'm writing a review of the new features now which should be out tomorrow morning.

---
News Editor

Wordsmith 2.1

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/12/2001 11:03:29 PM #
Its just not slow, it crawls. Also, I got lockups when cheching the dictionary.

RE: Wordsmith 2.1
Quik_Fix @ 12/13/2001 1:21:12 AM #
Me too. I can't get into the user dictionary from the options menu. Also you can't move any file onto a card that has a "/" slash in the name; I'm sure that has something to do with the VFS.

...In accordance with the prophecy...

Quik_Fix
quikfix@hotmail.com

RE: Wordsmith 2.1
Altema @ 12/13/2001 1:26:31 AM #
Just installed about an hour ago, no lockups yet, but spell checking sure is slow. Which dictionary you choose has a direct effect on speed. A 275 word test document took 2:26 with the large dictionary, and only 0:51 with the smaller dictionary. To break it down further, that would be 1.8835616 words per second for the large dictionary, and 5.3921569 words per second for the small one. I'm keeping the small one, even if it was missing several common words (which can be added on the fly). Oddly enough, FastCPU made no difference, so I wonder if WordSmith is doing a little CPU manipulation of its own. We can't blame the hardware entirely. The third party developer may need to take a look at a fresh re-work of the way their code operates. The spell checker on my old Apple /// ran much faster, and that was on a machine running at only 1.4Mhz... yes that's one POINT four megahertz!

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