Quickies: NR70V Review, SPH-M330 Delayed, and More

Eugene, a frequent PIC reader who lives in Japan, went down to Sony's home offices and was able to handle the just-announced NR70 and NR70V and was kind enough to write up a report on them. -Ed

John Bartley, who runs the I300 Yahoo Group, was told by a source at Samsung that its SPH-M330 has been delayed until "late third quarter". When it was announced recently, the company said it would be out next month.

PalmSource, the subsidiary of Palm, Inc. responsible for developing the Palm OS, has announced that Doreen S. Yochum has been named chief administrative officer. Ms. Yochum, formerly with AT&T, will be responsible for all operational aspects of the subsidiary and will oversee its transition to full independence as a separate entity. She will report to David Nagel, PalmSource president and chief executive officer. -PR

The New England Palm User Group March meeting will be held on Thursday, March 21 at 7:00 PM. The main topic will be a discussion of Bluetooth. Refreshments will be served and door prizes will be given out at the end of the meeting. -Michael Steinberg

February's winner of the CASL Spotlight Contest is PocketPlanter from Arkansoft, a horticultural db application. January's winner was ZapBill, ZapCode, and ZapICD from ZapMed, a "point of care" suite allowing health care practitioners to focus on administering health care, while the Zap program suite focuses on medical billing and clinical information. December's winner was PHTML from GreenDragon Software, an HTML editor. -PR

envi.con's Pilot Install Tentacle, a system to upload Palm OS Software simultaneously on up to 64 devices with one computer, is being used at CeBIT in Hannover. This lets visitors load the Mobile Fairguide, the official electronical fair guide within a very short time at the event. -PR

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I wonder if Samsung leaked its M330...

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/13/2002 2:35:52 PM #
...in order to make Sony show its hand prematurely. It seems Samsung got more than it bargained for.

Sony is still clearly the leader in consumer electronics. It's too bad, but I think U.S. companies are going to vanish from the handheld and laptop market because there's no way they can match the miniaturization skills of the Japanese. Palm needs to dump its hardware line now and stick to the OS. Alas, it seems to be stuck in the same rut Apple is.

RE: I wonder if Samsung leaked its M330...
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/13/2002 2:53:54 PM #
> Palm needs to dump its hardware line now and stick to the OS. Alas, it seems
> to be stuck in the same rut Apple is.

Linux has cut into Microsoft's sales on servers and the Linux OS is technically superior. Microsoft should just dump Windows and concentrate on Microsoft Office.

ABC's prime time lineup is really weak this year. They should go out of business. NBC and CBS can just take over.

Burger King doesn't have as many franchises as McDonald's and the Big Mac tastes better. Burger King should declare bankruptcy and fire all its employees.

Why can you understand that what I've just said is ridiculous but you can also believe what you just wrote?

Palm isn't going to stop making its hardware because it sells about 60% of the handhelds in the U.S. while Sony sells about 6%. If Palm dropped out of the market, there wouldn't BE a Palm platform. PPC would be the only handhelds available in less than 6 months.

Palm had a bad couple of years and their handhelds aren't cutting edge any more. Their management team was all wrong and they were distracted by their IPO. That doesn't mean they are doomed. It means they need to get back on the stick. That takes a while. You don't bounce back from being 6 months behind overnight. But it is possible.

RE: I wonder if Samsung leaked its M330...
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/13/2002 9:25:03 PM #
My statement has nothing to do with Palm itself. No American company is capable of competing with the Japanese miniaturization juggernaut. America used to have hundreds of companies that built consumer electronics coveted around the world. When was the last time you chose Koss over Aiwa? Do you think your computer's LCD or CRT tube is manufactured in America? It doesn't matter who makes the plastic on the outside, it's the technology on the inside that counts.

Palm won't be able to find the machine tools in America to keep up with the Japanese. It's not really Palm's fault, but the entire industry's. I think we should just stick with the really high end intellectual products, like software and biotech. We get better margins anyway.

Previous PocketPC owner

nuopus @ 3/13/2002 10:19:14 PM #
I was the proud owner of 2 PocketPC devices. Casio e-125 and IPAQ. I have been with palm for years before the PPC . I remember buying the original PalmPilot. I have spent ALOT of time with BOTH platforms and can tell you I am happy to see these kinds of improvements in PalmOS.

Fact is ... Palm is for the people who really need a PDA. They are people who like to keep data, do fast searches of data that will search document contents rather than filenames. They do not crash like PPC, faster when doing what REALLY needs done. Oh ... and the PIM apps are better.

I loved my PPC for mulimedia stuff and games. This is where palm has its weaknesses. PPC kicks its butt in multimedia! BUT once that novelty wears down, you get sick of what you COULD do with a PalmOS based device.

The type of people who down PalmOS are people that have been with PPC, look at palm WITHOUT giving it a REAL chance so they don't know what it can do. The ignorance of these people shame me.

PPC for multimedia, PalmOS for the real work. I hope PalmOS gains in the multimedia sector and kicks PPC out of the widespread market!

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/13/2002 10:44:31 PM #
Previous Mercedes owner.


I was the proud owner of 2 mercedes, an SLK and CL coupe. I love the cushy leather seat and the powerful engine, but fact is I really don't need it. But once the german novelty wears down, I realize I really don't need them.


So now I am back to driving a Ford Tempo.

The type of people who down on mid range low cost family sedan usually don't know what it can do. They think Mercedes got all the jazz in car business.


The ignorance of these people shame me.


RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/13/2002 11:16:42 PM #
Sir You are so right, now sell your desktop computer and get a pentium 100 for about 50 dollars, it'll work just fine because all you do with you computer is get on the internet and do some other things like spreadseets and word processing. Win 3.11 is a very nice operating system, it runs really fast on pentium 100 too. Do you need all those fancy stuff in windows xp Me NT 2000 whatever u are using ?? no, those are just som useless things that microsoft put in there. Now go back to pentium 100 + win 3.11 your life will be much better

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2002 1:52:18 AM #
Find a Pentium 100 that runs Win311 isn't that hard. To find Office 5.0 or 4.0, NetScape 2.0 (IE is imposible), a driver to support V.90 modem, POP3 email reader... will cost you more (time?).

As a PC programming veteran (since DOS age), PocketPC programming is my nightmare, especially if I want to compare orange (PPC) with apple (Palm), which is still fair in this case (they are PDAs). In many areas, I can program for Palm OS without even thinking of it. Put the same features for PPC, I will have to work around. The worst nightmare is when sometimes the work around can only apply to one specific device, you will have to program differently for every combination you want to support (i.e. iPaq Pocket PC, iPaq PocketPC 2002, HP Jornada, and HP Jornada PPC2002.) If you have to handle CASIO, Toshiab..., Good luck!


I started to doubt that lack support of developers for PPC is not because of the market share reason. It is the development and maintenance cost pushes away many PPC developers.

Microsoft still have a long way to go...



RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2002 1:59:13 AM #
i do like Mr. mercedes's comment :) and also like Mr.pentium100 too. kind of sardonic but funny.....and good analogy

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2002 2:33:29 AM #
Poor "Mercedes" owner -- the dealer sold him a Winnebago and a HomerMobile and told him they were fine German automobiles; he then pointed to a Porsche Boxster and said "And you'll be able to look down your nose at guys driving crap like that Ford Tempo"

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2002 3:43:41 AM #
What on earth is Multimedia anyway? Is that something like Britney Spears?

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2002 4:55:27 AM #
No, it's more like (Pamala Anderson + Carmen Electra) / 2 + Britney Spears

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2002 5:35:32 AM #
the analogy is more like selling your fancy Sun workstation for a regular PC with Office, Quicken, etc because you are tied of playing around with X Window and want to do some real work

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/14/2002 8:12:45 AM #
Man these PPC supporters are BORING THE HELL OUTTA ME.
You own bricks, period. 70% of the market DO NOT like bricks, last I saw when I compared PalmOS vs PPC market shares.

Until PPC devices get a smaller, lighter form factor that match or equal Palm devices, and STILL maintain their feature-lead, this conversation is forever BORING.

RE: Previous PocketPC owner
investigator @ 9/15/2003 5:14:08 AM #
nuopus,

I have been reading your various comments in this forum and others and I can only say that you are one sick puppy. If you are going to comment, at least research what you are talking about so you don't come off like a complete idiot....

Thanks.


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