Pre Pitted Against Evo in Detailed Comparison

Mike;

Peep this one. It's encouraging to see Android FINALLY "growing up" with support for all of the latst/critical codecs & formats.

I haven't tested this one out yet on my Droid but I've grabbed the .apk to play with later. I'll let you know how it goes.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/06/21/rockplayerbase-allows-you-to-play-a-whole-host-of-video-files-on-your-android-device/

My advice to get yer Android fix? Skip this generation of PMPs and tablets. Instead, pick up a Moto Droid cheap in a month or two when the Droid 2 arrives and everyone starts dumping the D1. You can use it in permanent airplane mode (yes wi-fi & BT will work with the CDMA radio disabled) as a wi-fi tablet without ever having to have a single kb of Verizon data flowing through it after easily bypassing the initial Droid activation screen (unlike WebOS).

Or look for a cheap Droid or Droid Eris with a bad ESN--you don't need to activate it!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid + Verizon Palm Centro

I'm not getting a frikkin small screen Android device for video when the damn Archos 7 -- which is Android -- has a seven-inch screen and is only $200. And already has its own damned good video software included.

Someone tried that software on an Archos 5 Internet Tablet and it was crashtastic and buggy. I expected that. CorePlayer pretenders, go away!

I wouldn't say that Android's speed, capabilities & features make up for its horrible, horrible PIMs and unintuitive UI. It's sort of brings Android into parity with Garnet but it really depends on your priorities. If you are a gee-whiz teen or twenty-something multimedia maven, social networking hipster, then Android is obviously for you.

If you a thirtysomething (or older) who came of age with Palm OS (or Newton or anything from that era), then you likely place great value on PIM functionality and might think Android is devoid of substance (which it essentially is).

Palm regressed going from Garnet to WebOS but they're still ahead of the competition in the PIM field. I'm on Android now (but would have made the Pre plunge had VZW gotten it before the Droid last year) and will likely grudgingly put up with it for another year while eagerly watching to see what HP does with WebOS.

For now, it's nice to have such "modern" niceties as a >1.3mp camera, near-DVD quality video capture, a big high-res screen, >4GB memory card support, fantastic "free" Google Maps navigation, honest to goodness accurate voice dialing, search, dictation and a super web browser. But my Centro or TX are always a few feet away on my desk for quickly recalling names, addresses, and events.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid + Verizon Palm Centro

Mike, have you seen the new Droid X on VZW that was just announced a little while ago? Holy shizznit, I may take the virtual keyboard plunge yet! Multitouch onscreen QWERTY! More pixels than Evo! DLNA support! 16GB microSDHC card included + 8GB onboard! That puts it squarely in between the two iPhone capacities but it's cheaper & expandable. Initial impressions are that Droid X CPU/GPU capabilities (OMAP instead of Snapdragon) & build quality are a good bit ahead of the Evo. Plus, it'll have Droid 1-like battery life with an optional 1mm thicker extended battery + cover available. But Sprint has the Evo *NOW*, far better/cheaper monthly plans, and 4G (the biggie) to make it far more future-proof.

The merits of Vanilla Android, NinjaBlur, or Sense are all up for debate, so I won't go there.

Oh yeah, how can I forget...physical buttons instead of those overly sensitive capacitive ones. And Droid X has some of the best looking camera phone images I've ever seen...certainly the best ones from any device I'd want to actually own (not some clunky, overpriced dumbphone with a digicam lens grafted onto its backside!):

http://phandroid.com/2010/06/22/look-at-these-pictures-taken-with-my-canon-reb-i-mean-droid-x/

But NO full Flash 10 and NO Froyo at launch! Fail? Not quite but pretty damn disappointing! My personal move would be to grab one of these on a 1yr contract and see how the LTE/WiMax thing shakes out as well as what HP/Palm bring to the table.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid + Verizon Palm Centro

Creepy. I was just reading @ this app last nite somewhere and tried to search 4 it, bit nothing came up in the app cat. Saw the post and tried again and there it is. Cool.
Pat Horne

>>>is it really necessary and critical for you to carry around your entire Dr. Who video collection with you everywhere you go 24/7? do you even leave a 5 mile square radius of Satan Island?

LMAO!!! I don't carry around collections. A portable device has to be able to do real-life video files, not frikkin limited MP4 and 3GP.

And HP/Palm now have to do something that makes *this* new Android tablet look like utter crap:

Huawei S7. Complete Android Tablet. Forgotten Video. Unbelievable Price
http://carrypad.com/2010/06/24/huawei-s7-complete-android-tablet-forgotten-video-unbelievable-price/

And Gekko, at least people know somewhat *where* I live. What turnpike is your cardboard box under again?

Gekko;

I'm very, very seriously considering switching to Sprint/Evo. I love the speed and Sense & the value proposition of Sprint service vs. Verizon.

I've got Jorte on my Droid and it still has some quirks but it's at least a step in the right direction.

Couple questions:

1. Have you used wi-fi much on the Evo? Any of the problems w/ poor reception others have complained about online?

2. Any issues with the glass separating from the body like some have reported?

3. How's your battery life been thus far? How's the WiMax coverage in your area?
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid + Verizon Palm Centro

p.s.

1. i haven't used WIFI a lot and from a super far distance from a router. when i did use it it was fine. house, cafe shop, etc. was fine.

2. 4G/WIMAX is good in my area but i never turn it on because i don't need to. why would i? web pages render so fast on this thing and downloads are so fast with normal 3G. 4G is a battery hog and again 3G is so fast i can't tell any difference. i did turn 4G on for all of my HOTSPOT uses though (because that's the only way you can get the free HOTSPOT trial - using 4G) and the 4G was great. my guess is that you can really feel the difference of 3G vs. 4G using a laptop/netbook vs. using a smartphone.

i really love this phone and have zero complaints.

Voice recognition is scary good for me. But then again - i have perfect diction, no accent, and speak clearly and concisely. Do you speak Engrish?

My other accesories - iphone headset snd Sprint OEM chargers.

Brain app saves your app list. Play with itj.

Gekko et al: Wired magazine had an interesting flow chart in this month's issue to help select the right smartphone.....Palm is the choice for those with nastalgia about old technology, RIM the choice for those who don't want apps or need their IT dept approval and Android is the clear choice for those who want porn on their phones! Now I see why 4G could be important.....

Actually, the discussion here is persuading me to give android a try (not for the porn). The HTC Desire is available and I think the Wildfire (Aria in the US) and the Samsung Galaxy are also here or will be soon. All unlocked. Even Nokia is looking interesting with cheap N900 and an N9 on the way. Plus HP/Palm possibilities.....too damn many options and more coming every week.

i love this -

"Personal organizer must be practical. And it must be good appearance." You may well think these when you look for personal organizer in stationery shop.

There have never been more practical schedule management application in mobile terminal than paper organizer.

This personal organizer application "Jorte" is pursued to have a look and feel of real paper personal organizer, design to be both good appearance and practical use.

We think practical use as primary thing. Once you touch this application, You would feel "Oh, I want to use this!"

http://www.jorte.net/english/index.html

one in 12 months in the biggest metro city in the world. no wonder the company failed and had to be bought. i have yet to see one.

i wonder how concerned the girl was with some creepy old guy who looks like a sex offender ogling her on the ferry.

Con - very nice chronicle. Apple makes a good product but i like my EVO. 4.3" display, Sprint network/pricing, open/flexible/customizable OS/platform, tight integration with Google/Gmail, removable storage, removable battery. these are all things important to me that iPhone does not have.

IMO Droid X is ugly as sin. it looks like a 1980's TV remote mated with a 1980's digital camera. and no HTC Sense special sauce. instead you get some kind of Motorola sauce - and if it's anything like Motoblur i'm not a fan.

if i was dead set on getting raped by Verizon every month - i'd get the HTC Incredible.

My Excellent SIX HOUR iPhone 4 Adventure
Dan Frommer | Jun. 24, 2010, 3:37 PM

Note to self, future self, and general population: Reserving an iPhone for in-store pickup is NOT the fast way to get a new iPhone.

At least it wasn't this morning in New York, where I just spent SIX HOURS waiting in line for an iPhone 4.

Why did I do it? Because Apple insisted that in-store pickup reservations would only last today.

And because the first half of the line seemed to go by in just an hour! For whatever reason, the last half seemed to take five times as long.

Apple's retail employees tried to make it comfortable with bottles of water, ice cream, and fresh fruit. But in 90-degree heat, it was NOT FUN.

At least you can re-live it with me in 60 seconds!

http://www.businessinsider.com/my-excellent-six-hour-iphone-4-adventure-2010-6

My assist had her iphone mailed to her house, II'll see out tomorrow. Maybe I'll get a chance to post a comparison to my Evo.

DOH!! I'd forgotten there were different models of the Pre now. The one I saw lacked the white bottom button of the original model. So was this a Verizon one?

I'm in no hurry to see the iPhone 4. There were lines for frikkin weeks for the 3GS. There will be lines for weeks for the frikkin iPhone 4. Next!