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RE: Sony Clie N710C: $420 at Egghead.com
RE: Sony Clie N710C: $420 at Egghead.com
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RE: Sony Clie N710C: $420 at Egghead.com
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Jay
128mb Memory Stick for $142
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RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
Memory
64 meg MemoryStick = $70 = $1.09/meg
64 meg MMC = $74 = $1.16/meg
I don't mind paying an extra 7 cents a meg for a MMC since it isn't proprietary like the MemoryStick.
As for price, I would compare the SD card with the MagicGate version.
64 meg MagicGate = $128 = $2.00/meg
64 meg SD Card = $89 = $1.39/meg
You wouldn't want to compare apples to oranges. ;-)
RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
Well, SD cards run at that speed but do you know how fast the m50x reads/writes them??? You'll be surprised!
Here are snips from an article where the MemoryStick is heading:
"Device manufacturers are also supporting this flash-memory format. In Japan, Sharp is shipping an MP3 player that uses Memory Sticks, and car-audio maker Alpine is shipping in-dash players with a Memory Stick slot. Epson has printers on the market in the Untied States that support the Memory Stick, allowing consumers to save documents onto a Stick and print them by simply placing the Stick in a slot on a printer."
"In 2002, a 256MB version of the Memory Stick will be available, followed by 1GB and 2GB versions by 2003. (Sticks are currently available in 8MB, 16MB, 32MB and 64MB versions.) Sony will also push data transfer rates from the current 2.5MB per second to 20MB per
second by 2003. "
Source: http://canada.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-6135310.html?tag=lh
RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
>>64 meg SD Card = $89 = $1.39/meg
>>You wouldn't want to compare apples to oranges. ;-)
The main difference between the MS and the MG is that the MG can hold ATRAC3 files -- and you are comparing an MG to an SD????!! Duh! As you wound say -- don't compare apples to oranges!
RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
An alpine with a memory stick slot? That rocks!! Go Alpine! Go Sony! Woohoo!
RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142
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Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
I've been hearing that applications designed for real power users, eg, doctors wanting large clinical libraries close at hand, will primarily be developed for the Windows CE operating system.
Comments, please.
Thanks, Rob
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
qRx is the world's leading clinical handheld application providing over 250,000 health care professionals with point-of-care information every day. qRx gives you everything from indication-specific dosing to drug interactions to packaging and pricing info.
qID is a custom-built infectious disease application designed specifically for Palm OS handheld devices. Fast and comprehensive, qID helps you find antimicrobial recommendations in a concise and clinically relevant format -- at the point of care.
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
We need easy wireless connectivity for wireless prescribing, normal web browsing for sites that are not optimized for web-clipping, and lots of easily accessed storage for clinical libraries that can be read with high resolution screens.
The Handera 330 seems to about the only Palm OS device that might be capable of doing all of this fairly easily, but people who follow all of the new medical apps in development are telling me that everything is being demoed on Pocket PCs.
Appreciate all of your comments.
Thanks, Rob
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
The killer app that drives everyone to Palm is Epocrates' qRX and qID. Also, the general feeling is that Palms are the easiest handhelds to use. The majority of Dr.'s aren't very techie and wan't something that is very easy to use and maintain.
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
It has tons of info, including a buyer adviser.
RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
Tips for New Clie Owners
The back button can be user programmed to turn the Clie on and off which is a nice feature. The cradle cable power supply can be plugged directly into the serial port, thus becoming a nice travel charger. You can use a program called PowerRUN to launch many applications residing in the memory stick, thus saving precious internal memory. The screen scratches easily. Buy a screen protector from someone like Brando HK. A nice replacement to the default launcher is called Crs Launcher, which is hires and freeware. The case scratches easily and the front cover is poorly attached to the case. Buy a leather case/cover.
With all the added features, this PDA is one of the most complex to set up and run to utilize all its potential. Otherwise, I think that it is the best Palm PDA currently out there, at least until the N610c comes out.
RE: Tips for New Clie Owners
RE: Tips for New Clie Owners
http://www.geocities.com/jhc19104/710C/Mainpage.htm
Speed 710 vs 505
RE: Speed 710 vs 505
RE: Speed 710 vs 505
RE: Speed 710 vs 505
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RE: Speed 710 vs 505
BTW, I have owned 710C since it's very early debut in US, I can't say there is speed problem between switching the apps. The photo is indeed slow, but the end results are excellent.
RE: Speed 710 vs 505
RE: Speed 710 vs 505
I tried a demo 610c sent to Rush Pres. here is Chicago (trying to sell to nurses and Doctors here) and it is faster then my 710c is.
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That may be due to Palm OS 4.0 on the 610c; supposedly 4.0 contains faster database access routines and possibly some other speed increases over OS 3.5.
RE: Speed 710 vs 505
Medical Applications for Palm OS & Pocket PCs
I think the strongest expression of this point of view that I've heard was the current article by the Edward M. Zabrek, MD, the medical editor for Pocket PC Magazine.
I would very much appreciate any comments that could address the in-depth review of medical applications that he has published.
Thanks, Rob
RE: Medical Applications for Palm OS & Pocket PCs
The software Palm is growing as well with vendors making software that reads from MS and SD cards and the small form factor is a big plus (no sleds to add for more memory) and the ease of use. The number of different devices that work alike is helping people chose the device thats right for them as well.
RE: Medical Applications for Palm OS & Pocket PCs
You may want to take a look at the keynote address Carl Yankowski made at TechXNY this year at the Jacob Javitz Center in NYC. In it, Carl explained (with the aid of other people in the Palm industry and several movies) how useful Palms are in the medical community and how they are already being implemented to hospitals as if they were normal business enterprises.
You can find the speech (in two parts) at:
http://www.zdnet.com/special/stories/report/0,13518,2780771,00.html#
Eric Garrido
RE: Medical Applications for Palm OS & Pocket PCs
Rob
RE: Medical Applications for Palm OS & Pocket PCs
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Battery Life
As for the speed issue that was brought up... if you have a 505 and you like the fact that you're only looking at 160x160res with adequate frontlighting then thats your thing. But i dont mind waiting the extra second (not that i have to with afterburner @50mhz) for it to load. I really like the sturdiness of the 505.. the 710 has that "plastic feel".. but when it comes to playing mp3s (no problem with overclocking) and games at the same time i choose Sony.
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RE: Battery Life
> recharging (if the mp3 player and backlight are off). Can the 505 do that?
Yes, if its sidelight is also turned off. But this isn't a realistic measurement. Neither one is very useful without having its screen lit up. And Sony isn't claiming that the 710 can run for 15 straight days without being turned off. They mean with something called "regular use" it can go 15 days without needing to be charged. Nowhere is "regular use" defined. Half an hour of use a day? One hour? Who knows?
RE: Actually the Clie's battery life is substantially longer
The m505 with its backlight OFF will last approximately 1 hour longer than the clie with its backlight on LOW. But enabling the backlight on the m505 nearly cuts its battery life in half.
See my site at http://gizmo.digital-alchemy.net for complete battery test results in the m505, Clie, Jornada, etc.
The m505 has alot going for it, but its not longer lived than the clie.
RE: Battery Life
Make 7.............Up Yours!
RE: Battery Life
RE: Battery Life
Oh my God, another false statement. I have been using my Clie for more than two months, I set the brightness to around 1/4 (in between the minimun and medium) and it always stays there.
you probably don't know how to interpretate the results, the m505 without backlight is only one hour longer than Clie WITH BACKLIGHT ON at minimun. It is amazing since backlight eats much more power even it is set to the lowest. A fair comparison will be both set to no backlight and Clie should last longer than m505.
The Clie backlight set to a little higher than lowest is as bright as m505 with backlight on, and Clie clearly last longer than m505.
The m505 charge fast, hmmmmm... we finally found another advantage for m505 in addition to the only form factor advantage.
Clearly, the battery used in m505 is smaller than Clie (interpretated from the results), and what is amazing is that Clie is only 20 g heavier than m505, and if m505 use the same capacity battery, m505 may lose all the trivial form factor advantage and still with 160*160 dim, dull screen.
From many perspective, Palm did not do a good job on m505, and it is very easy to see without much intelligence.
RE: Battery Life
RE: Battery Life
I usually leave my Clie on maximum brightness and I've never had a problem with battery life. When I had an iPaq I'd leave it on the second lowest brightness setting and the battery would last less than 1/3 as long as it seems to on the Clie with max brightness, which is pretty amazing in my opinion.
The m505 is a nice device, but I wish m505 owners could give credit where credit is due. The Clie's display absolutely blows away the m505's, people just look silly trying to say otherwise. The m505 has some great features of its own, but it's ok to sometimes admit its shortcomings.
RE: Battery Life
RE: Battery Life
The Clie with backlight at minimum lasts nearly as long (about an hour less) than the m505 WITHOUT the backlight on at all. Turning the backlight off should yield significantly more run time on the clie, if you so choose.
One of my favorite features of the m505 is its RECHARGE TIME! it recharges faster than any other handheld ive ever used, and makes it reasonable to pop it on the charger for 10-15 minutes while i sync it and never have to worry about batteries. The clie isnt bad recharge wise, but the m505 defintely has it beat.
One inconvience about the clies charging is that if its on the cradle under charge, the battery always reports 100%. This makes it hard to see exactly where it is in the charging process, since you have to take it out of the cradle to get an accurate reading. A minor issue, but can be annoying.
Another wierdness about the Clie recharge, is that the battery reports full at 4.0 volts while it will actually charge to 4.24. That extra .24 actually accounts for the first 2-3 hours or so of battery life so its worth leaving it on the charger for this.
Btw, in case you folks havent noticed, battery life is my thing in a handheld. I go way back to the HP 200lx where I was spoiled with its wonderful battery life. The palms approach it, but the PPC's just don't cut it IMO.
RE: Battery Life
For example, I bought a Sony Digital Video Camera (PC5) and in the manual it showed two charts for battery life. One for when the device was on continuously, vs. one for when it was used under typical conditions (on, off, zoom, etc.). The difference was huge.
I use my Palm all day but typically only for short reference, or adding a calendar date. Almost always it's on for 3 minutes or under. If I get 12 hours on one charge that would equate to over a month of usage which is clearly not the case for my 505.
Again, I think it's ok to compare devices from these benchmarks, but I wouldn't expect anyone to actually get 12 or 15 hours of REAL usage from their Palm (or Sony).
RE: Battery Life
You are correct that 'continuous on' vs normal usage will yield different results. But i would like to make a couple clairifications.
1. The battery tests I performed were NOT simple rundown tests where the device just sits there. They were tests performed under a continuous application load (scrolling a 400k ebook) providing more of a real world result than just sitting there at the apps screen.
2. The On/Off behaviour you describe, using a device for a few minutes at a time will likely yield BETTER performance than if used continuiously. The reason for this is that todays battery technologies tend to bounce back a bit when left without a significant draw... for example... using your palm for a few minutes and the battery drops to 17%... you turn it off and come back an hour later to find it at 19%. Its wierd but I see it alot in todays handhelds (except PPC's which just kinda such every ounce of power they can find)
RE: Battery Life
Oops, m505 doesn't have 320*320 high resolution photos to show...
S***, m505 doesn't have MP3 either, what a f*** %^%*%*%*#%**#%^#
Eagle-eye Ed
I've been using a N710C for about six weeks now, and I certainly can't see one, and my vision is 20/15 with my glasses on. If Ed can see a grid *between* pixels packed 150 to an inch, maybe he's in the wrong line of work. Dentistry, maybe.
Seriously, the grid--assuming you can see it--isn't anywhere near as noticable as it is on 160x160 color Palms.
Ed also left out perhaps the best reason to go with the hi-res color screens in the N710C and N610C (which is cheaper than the m505): WordSmith with FineType fonts looks as good as paper.
JK
RE: Eagle-eye Ed
RE: Eagle-eye Ed
JK
peripherals
RE: peripherals
RE: peripherals
RE: peripherals
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RE: peripherals
I think those "little pads" have more in common with the super thin web tablets everyone will have pursuint to the markets embrace of super-thin screen technology like O-LED(Organic Display), and EDIO (Electronic Paper), and the markets embrace of webpad's in general.
Hate to admit this but, the technology we have today is awesome, but the common citizen won't even be able to take advantage of it for 2-3 years when the markets finally catch up. It will be the same situation 2-3 years from now. Unfortunately too many people expect the economy to go into a recession, and expectation creates reality (or didn't you take macro-econ?)
The length of technology coming to market may infact reverse and become longer, it seems unlikely, but you never know, this could be the peak of all civilization now. What happens when we don't have enough resources (electricity, petrolium, etc...) to power the world, what happens when we consume faster than we can renew renewable energy resources, when their is no where else to expand? Will we evolve in time, for that matter will we evolve at all? Maybe the government will patrol the streets looking for reasons to kill people like they are rumored to do in China. Will war heat up, will we instintivity seek to create mass population control like they do now in China (only two kids per couple in china, ouch!) Will we grow old while our children grow old, hoping only that the race to build giant human helper robots will succeed before there is no one left to take care of our aging population (like what is going on in Japan). I'm sorry what was I talking about again? Palm pilots?
RE: peripherals
But let me correct you, it is only one kid per couple, in China, 2 or more kids you'll have to pay more tax!!
BTW doesn't that decrease the potential Palm user base?
robbb
The best site I've seen for CLIE users is on Yahoo Groups:
Informed discussion, all the latest CLIE files, and frequent contributions from prominent Palm program developers. No wonder the membership there is skyrocketing. (Over 2200 members in less than 3 months.)
Someone should tell Sony about this group and have them take part in the discussions. Sony needs to start playing a more active role in supporting the CLIE.
RE: The best site I've seen for CLIE users is on Yahoo Groups:
Best m505 group
Everything the Clie group has, plus a larger files section!
Clie group? Who-hoh! 2,200 members in 3 months! How many versions of Clie's are there, 2 NC PEG 700-710, PEG 300/Peg 320, PEG 620. There's like 6 of them! That's about 4 members a day coming in with a Clie. The m505's groups membership has gone up over a thosand over a few days last week. Which is way more for one handheld!
Without nxt, there wouldn't be a Clie Group!
RE: The best site I've seen for CLIE users is on Yahoo Groups:
m505: May=151, June=439, July=1005, Current=1505
Clie: May=222, June=1870,July=1533, Current=2326
Anyways, whatever..
RE: The best site I've seen for CLIE users is on Yahoo Groups:
;-)
Looks like 20 - 30 people are joining every day. At that rate they'll be able to take over the world by the end of the year!
The N710C is a better "business" Palm than the m505
You said
"The N710C is a multimedia handheld. It has the DSP so it can play music and a great screen so it can show high quality video. It is perfect for people who use their Palm as an entertainment device and, to me anyway, seems best suited for college students, twenty-somethings, and those still young at heart. While Sony didn't ignore business users, this device wasn't made with them in mind."
WRONG. The N710C was made with *everyone* in mind. Don't try to minimize its quality by pigeonholing it as a young persons PDA just because it plays MP3s. This is merely a bonus, and one that will be enjoyed by professionals as they wait for meetings, in airports, in their hotels, relax after work, etc.
To work as a business PDA, a handheld should be small, reliable and have a screen easily visible in all lighting situations. The Palm m505 screen fails this lithmus test miserably. The CLIE, on the other hand does everything a business PDA should do. It just happens to also mave an MP3 player. Given a choice between staring at the dim, dull m505 screen and a CLIE, which one do you think the average businessperson would choose to use? The CLIE. If anything, the MP3 feature will make it even more likely for employees to carry their PDAs with them all the time. Just substitute a pair of small "bud" type earphones.
The only thing missing are programs to sync with Word +/- Excel. If Sony wants to absolutely OWN the business market, they'll release a version of the N610C and N710C with WordSmith and Minicalc included. At that point, the two remaining Palm zealots would probably keep claiming the m505 is a better business PDA because it's 1.5 oz lighter and 2 mm thinner (made up numbers).
What defines a good "business" PDA is functionality, and the CLIE has this in spades. Palm needs to come up with another angle for selling their m505. Maybe they could start doing some designer colored cases like "off-white", "murky red", "faded blue", "dull green" and "blurry gray".
;-)
By the way, video is currently useless on the Palm platform. It's only for demonstration purposes and Sony knows this. They're only marketing the CLIE with this spin because they're an entertainment company.
RE: The N710C is a better
I wonder how long it will take before they start cutting prices. I'm betting that once the $400 N610C is available in numbers (seems to be backordered everywhere now), Palm will slice $50 - 100 off the m505's list price.
WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR! Isn't economics fun?
RE: The N710C is a better
well said :)
RE: The N710C is a better
Palm and Sony are not cut throat enemies, if anything Sony is Palm's favoured hardware manufacturer at the moment.
The Clie nx10c's arent about in europe yet, (although the n710c has just been reviewed in PCW uk so they will be soon) so i can't compare it to the m505 as I don't have them in hand, but at last we have some decent variety in the PalmOS scene, with great stuff from Palm, Handera, Sony and Handspring. Why do we have to say which is best?
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kHiTeDev
RE: The N710C is a better
You make some good points but whether you realize it or not, you didn't take an unbiased look at both handhelds. You lightly brushed over the 710's flaws while playing up the 505's.
The 710 doesn't come bundled with the applications businesspeople need. You dismissed that as unimportant but one of the major ways salespeople talk companies into standardizing on WinCE is by telling that they can use Word and Excel files right out of the box. You are correct, it should come with these apps and then the 710 would be a much better for business people than it is now. But that hasn't happened yet.
You've bought into the anti-505 propaganda. I have a 505 and there has never been a situation where I couldn't see what was on the screen, as you assert. Yes, the 710's screen is much better but a BMW is much better than a Lexus but that doesn't mean the Lexus is bad.
But this Palm against Sony competition is really useless. You think what you think and I think what I think and we're not likely to change each other's minds. I believe the only hope for determining a real "winner", if there is any such thing, is to see which model is selling better.
Chris
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!!!!!
RE: The N710C is a better
WRONG. Take away the MP3 player and the N710C is just another Palm with a higher-res screen and a MemoryStick slot. Its' screen is smaller than many other handhelds. Its' buttons are poorly laid out, and it's on the thicker side of handhelds. It doesn't come with any useful productivity software. Expansion options are limited for it, and who knows when or if there will be anything else for things like I/O and connectivity that will work with it. There's even talk that the 4.0 upgrade won't be user installable. If I were looking for a PDA to buy for my employees, these would be significant downsides. Add that it's the most expensive Palm available, and it comes up considerably lacking.
Don't delude yourself into thinking that fancy, but small, hi-res screen and a high price tag makes it something for everybody. It's not. It's a flashy multimedia handheld for people who want to look cool.
RE: The N710C is a better
RE: The N710C is a better
RE: The N710C is a better
RE: The N710C is a better
RE: The N710C is a better
Do you have any figures to back that up? I've been trying to figure out which one is selling better for weeks and no one seems to know.
RE: The N710C is a better
Ridiculous. Whoever said this is totally a MORON. The important thing is the pixel size, if you increse the size and the resoultion at the same time, the size of the pixel also incresed, and you will still see the jigsaw fonts. Look at iPAQ, the size of the screen is much larger than Clie N710C, but the resoultion is lower and if you look at iPAQ same sizew font, you will see the font is not as beautiful as Clie's.
BTW, the screen size of Clie is only very little smallr than m505's, I have measured Clie, m505 and Prism. Clie screen does look smaller, I guess it is because the case is smaller (m505 is very wide, even though it is thinner)
RE: The N710C is a better "business" PDA than the m505
I feel sorry for Palm. Even the Palm fanatics have run out of reasons to recommend the Palm flagship. Right now, the m505's only advantage is : it's thin - if you don't use a case. $450 for thin? I don't think so.
RE: The N710C is a better
RE: The N710C is a better
Clié Internal Speaker ?
I have a Vx for about a year now and I only have one complaint about it. If I don't have the Palm with me, I can't trust him to remind me of anything... The alarm is just too damn low :-( I end up beaming important stuff to my Nokia Phone!
That's probably the one thing I've noticed more about the new PocketPc's (from Compaq)... Their internal speaker is very loud!!!
RE: Clié Internal Speaker ?
I'm gonna have to get one !
RE: Clié Internal Speaker ?
One complaint though, does anybody know how to turn the volume down, it is a little too loud for me.
RE: Clié Internal Speaker ?
If you want a really loud alarm, get a HandEra 330. It's amplified speaker puts out some real volume.
> One complaint though, does anybody know how to turn the
> volume down, it is a little too loud for me.
Go into Prefs > General > Alarm Sound
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RE: Clié Internal Speaker ?
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710 rocks
Australia?
RE: Australia?
RE: Australia?
My tip - Go Grey!
Get one off ebay. I got mine for less than $500 US inc GST. Thats a shade under A$1000, but hey its tax deductable.
As for Sony warrranty - its pretty good, global, and touch wood I haven't had to use it yet through 3 years of gadgets from them.
RE: Australia?
Which is the better Business-Palm?
How bad that these programms, which are delivered with the japanese clie n700c dont seem to exist in an american version. Instead of palmscape they deliver avantgo in america.
It seems, that our japanese neigbours can take a lot more benefit concerning sw- or hw- add-ons.
NavinyouPocket
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/palm/sp/0103clie/0304.html
Palmscape
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/palm/sp/0103clie/0305.html
PS: Im a happy m505-user, but: If ever sony brings out (after their partnership with ericsson) a high-res-screen-clie with build in mobile-phone. I'll get one!
RE: Which is the better Business-Palm?
RE: Which is the better Business-Palm?
> 128MB chip. With all the talk about excelent video,is there no need for Power Point?
Documents to Go (http://www.dataviz.com/) syncs fully with Microsoft Office, including Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. It does a heck of a lot better job that the pile of puke programs that come with PocketPC.
RE: Which is the better Business-Palm?
If you don´t need powerpoint, you can use wordsmith (the best worprocesor for PDA´s) and tinysheet or minicalc
Palm OS and the Colors of Life
do in 8-bit mode.
I'd be happy to hear from anyone who can explain this to me. Or why they never discuss this capability that HandSpring seemed so "intelligent" to include.
RE: Palm OS and the Colors of Life
RE: Palm OS and the Colors of Life
RE: Palm OS and the Colors of Life
Problems with Sony Clie
RE: Problems with Sony Clie
when you right-click on the hotsync icon in the windows system tray, is "local" checked?
if it is, and your palm vx won't hotsync, try using palm desktop 4.0.1. in addition to a better interface, it has a better hotsync manager.
make a backup of your c:Program FilesSony Handheld folder and then uninstall palm desktop for clie thru control panel. download palm desktop 4.01 for palm 3/5/7 from www.palm.com and install that. copy USBSwt.exe (from the backup of your sony handheld folder) into your C:Palm folder, and put a shortcut to it into your windows startup folder. reboot windows. you should see both the new hotsync manager and usbswitcher in the system tray.
right click on hotsync manager and make sure local serial is checked. if you have a usb cradle for your palm vx, make sure local usb is checked too.
although i don't have a palm vx, i do have a palm IIIxe (serial) and a visor deluxe (usb) in addition to my 710 (pseudo-usb/serial), all hotsyncing thru this same setup. i hope you find that it works for you.
RE: Problems with Sony Clie
Btw, I have a Clie 710c now and Palm Desktop 4.0.1 works fine. Maybe you should try figuring things out before returning them so quick. Have fun with that dim, pixelated, plain-looking m505 screen.
RE: 710 rocks
RE: RE: 710 rocks
the reason ive been wanting one is for when i work out at the gym. granted ill have to be careful with it, that just means ill need a case with better protection. :)
but i am totally happy with this purchase. the high res is just staggering.
RE: I am from france ,Where can I buy the 710c in USA
Windows NT
RE: Windows NT
Have not tried it though.....
RE: Windows NT
Thankx
U should have checked on serial cradle b4 you bought Clie.
Palm OS 4.0
Anyone know when the 710 will get 4.0 and 16bit, 68k colors?
RE: Palm OS 4.0
Memory stick modules coming soon?
http://www.memorystick.org/msinfo/eng/io/index.html#5
Are they just examples or do they actually exist ( and work ) ?
I would really want the microphone and the bluetooth thingy... = )
Anyone have any info on these??
RE: Memory stick modules coming soon?
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1778
Here's more on the Bluetooth MemStick:
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1781
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excellent purchase
reply from SONY on Palm 4.x upgrade for N710C QUESTION!!!
Currently the Palm OS 4.x is not available or supported through SONY on the
PEG-S300/N710C models. Should an upgrade to Palm OS 4.x be released from
SONY for your CLIE Handheld, the upgrade will be accessed from the SONY
CLIE support website:
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/
1. Click the "Software Updates" link for your CLIE model.
2. Locate the update you are interested in, and click the ".exe" link.
3. Print and read the installation instructions.
Please bookmark the support site and visit it periodically for any new
releases.
IMPORTANT!: SONY does not test third-party software or updates on our
CLIE Handhelds. We also do not support, or recommend, any
software or updates from any site other than our own.
Although third-party applications may be installed, issues
with, or resulting from the use of such software will not
be supported by SONY.
Thank you for the opportunity to be of assistance.
The SONY Internet Group
Customer Information Services Center
At last the OS 4 is confirmed!!
RE: At last the OS 4 is confirmed!!
Given, they state it's going to cost 10000 yen, which is roughly equivalent to $84, but I'm sure that won't be the case in the states.
Sony, if you can get us an OS upgrade for $30 or less, I love you! :)
Evan
Clie 710C Display
I have absolutely no Idea what the problems is.
But if anyone has incountered this problem please assist.
Thanks
clie n610 AND HOTSYNC
I tried the native palm desktop that comes with the clie
I tried palm desktop 4.01
Nothing seems to make it want to sync
It sits there and says it can't make a connection
The hot sync manager has both USB and serial checked off (even though I am using a USB port)
No USB hub, just a single port
Otherwise the device works great
?????
would appreciate any help
RE: clie n610 AND HOTSYNC
if you arent synching with your serial port then dont have serial checked off.
Clie 710 is not compatible with XP!
Not a major problem as one is being discontinued while the other just born.
Anyway, I have both and is still waiting for a solution so that I can hotsync.
RE: Clie 710 is not compatible with XP!
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2542
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News Editor
RE: Clie 710 is not compatible with XP!
Check the Sony Site
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/softupdates/N710C/index.html
Sony CLIE 710C
Sony Clie N710C
RE: Sony Clie N710C
Wrong Keyboard Update
We need to buy Sony Clie Handhealds
B&B corp.
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We need to buy Sony Clie Handhealds
RE: We need to buy Sony Clie Handhealds
and try to work with Sony's support line, they think
their **** don't stink.
Junk 'em, and get a good palm pilot. You'll be a damn
site happier.
sony clie 710C
Why? It simply won't play MP3's.!!! I've tried a variety of files. They play great on my Sony desktop - play great on the memory stick, but wont play on my 710C??
Any ideas? One or two will play ok, then the third will start to skip and the device will "lock up".
Help...hilfe!
respond to:
bill@dlobonn.org
RE: sony clie 710C
I hope this works for you. I had the same problem (I think) but I couldn't even install the freakin audio plyaer because some how I got the wrong installation CD. I took me hours with sony tech support but it turned out fine.
Good luck :)
this should work
George
Install Software
Thanks
Andrea - picobal@hotmail.com
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