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RE: Sony Clie N710C: $420 at Egghead.comI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 6:39:18 PM #
geesh, it sold out that fast... RE: Sony Clie N710C: $420 at Egghead.comI.M. Anonymous @ 7/27/2001 1:36:27 PM #
Here is a list of online shops that carry the unit http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?c=13&o=88025&ssa=5652 RE: Sony Clie N710C: $420 at Egghead.comI.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 10:25:41 PM #
There are still several stores which sells under $420.
check http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=437805&search=clie&ut=8898c4c927c4fc11
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 9:40:48 AM #
A nice upgrade to your Clie would be a 128mb memory stick for $142. Try finding a SD or MMC card for that price. http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/resellers/0-7085-311-5759180-3.html RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 9:44:39 AM #
That's a good price. It works out to be a $1.10 per MB. The best price I could find on a MMC card was $1.11 per MB and the best SD card was $1.25 per MB. The largest SD or MMC card I could find was 64 MB. Memory
Memory prices are very competitive so I'm sure that size will increase and cost will decrease. 64 meg MemoryStick = $70 = $1.09/meg I don't mind paying an extra 7 cents a meg for a MMC since it isn't proprietary like the MemoryStick. As for price, I would compare the SD card with the MagicGate version. 64 meg MagicGate = $128 = $2.00/meg You wouldn't want to compare apples to oranges. ;-) RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:25:37 AM #
really? i saw an sd for under a buck a meg! it was a 64 meg one for just $63.01 RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 11:53:12 AM #
Let's see sd card's run at 12.5mb per second and sonysticks run at 2.45. Well I think I am going to buy a m505 forget the sony!! RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 3:28:43 PM #
-> Let's see sd card's run at 12.5mb per second and sonysticks run at 2.45. Well I think I am going to buy a m505 forget the sony!! Well, SD cards run at that speed but do you know how fast the m50x reads/writes them??? You'll be surprised! Here are snips from an article where the MemoryStick is heading: "Device manufacturers are also supporting this flash-memory format. In Japan, Sharp is shipping an MP3 player that uses Memory Sticks, and car-audio maker Alpine is shipping in-dash players with a Memory Stick slot. Epson has printers on the market in the Untied States that support the Memory Stick, allowing consumers to save documents onto a Stick and print them by simply placing the Stick in a slot on a printer." "In 2002, a 256MB version of the Memory Stick will be available, followed by 1GB and 2GB versions by 2003. (Sticks are currently available in 8MB, 16MB, 32MB and 64MB versions.) Sony will also push data transfer rates from the current 2.5MB per second to 20MB per Source: http://canada.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-6135310.html?tag=lh RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 3:45:14 PM #
>>64 meg MagicGate = $128 = $2.00/meg >>64 meg SD Card = $89 = $1.39/meg >>You wouldn't want to compare apples to oranges. ;-) The main difference between the MS and the MG is that the MG can hold ATRAC3 files -- and you are comparing an MG to an SD????!! Duh! As you wound say -- don't compare apples to oranges! RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 3:50:36 PM #
>> "...Alpine is shipping in-dash players with a Memory Stick slot..." An alpine with a memory stick slot? That rocks!! Go Alpine! Go Sony! Woohoo! RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 3:59:27 PM #
Anyone have anymore info on the alpine unit??? I run a cva-1005 in my car and would love to be able to play my MP3's without having to run the pc in the trunk. RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 12/5/2001 12:31:40 PM #
I don't like spending $142 on something the size of a stick of gum. RE: 128mb Memory Stick for $142I.M. Anonymous @ 12/5/2001 12:32:29 PM #
I agree - I suppose people would also pay $1000 for a 1Gb MS, too - I just couldn't bring myself to spend that much for something so small.
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 9:57:26 AM #
Are the main advantages of devices using the Palm OS that the Windows CE operating system is unreliable and the battery life is poor? I've been hearing that applications designed for real power users, eg, doctors wanting large clinical libraries close at hand, will primarily be developed for the Windows CE operating system. Comments, please. Thanks, Rob RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs CompaqI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:13:59 AM #
I don't know if you've seen, but there's a huge base of medical apps for PalmOS. Palmgear even has 3 "Medical" categories. RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs CompaqI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:28:00 AM #
It's too late, the applications to let Doctors keep huge databases of clinical information in their handhelds have already been written... for the Palm Here's some of the apps available from ePocrates. qRx is the world's leading clinical handheld application providing over 250,000 health care professionals with point-of-care information every day. qRx gives you everything from indication-specific dosing to drug interactions to packaging and pricing info. qID is a custom-built infectious disease application designed specifically for Palm OS handheld devices. Fast and comprehensive, qID helps you find antimicrobial recommendations in a concise and clinically relevant format -- at the point of care. RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs CompaqI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:28:37 AM #
I am aware of many of the medical apps available for the Palm OS devices, but when companies try and put them all together in an easily used suite of products, it seems a bit daunting. We need easy wireless connectivity for wireless prescribing, normal web browsing for sites that are not optimized for web-clipping, and lots of easily accessed storage for clinical libraries that can be read with high resolution screens. The Handera 330 seems to about the only Palm OS device that might be capable of doing all of this fairly easily, but people who follow all of the new medical apps in development are telling me that everything is being demoed on Pocket PCs. Appreciate all of your comments. Thanks, Rob RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs CompaqI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:36:59 AM #
Most doctors today use Palm OS devices. There are huge databases out there for doctors in Palm-compatible formats. More so than WIN CE RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs Compaq
I must echo the above comment. I have come across *many* doctors using Palms -- and now specifically CLIEs. Check out the CLIE YahooGroup or pop into the CLIE board at http://www.palmblvd.com and ask about doctors -- you'll find out! (These comments are not to disparage Pocket PC -- but right now, PalmOS is the thing for docs. It has the software.) RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs CompaqI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 11:43:20 AM #
My wife is a Dr. at a major reserch hospital in the Pacific Northwest. Palm OS is definitely the platform of choice there, outnumbering WinCE 20 to 1. The killer app that drives everyone to Palm is Epocrates' qRX and qID. Also, the general feeling is that Palms are the easiest handhelds to use. The majority of Dr.'s aren't very techie and wan't something that is very easy to use and maintain. RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs CompaqI.M. Anonymous @ 7/27/2001 3:09:18 AM #
There is even a site for docs using pda's: www.pdaMD.com It has tons of info, including a buyer adviser. RE: Palm & Sony & Handera vs CompaqI.M. Anonymous @ 7/27/2001 10:17:46 AM #
Where I used to work some of the monitored beds were outfitted with wireless connections so that Docs with palm VII could have instant access to their patients vitals. I think it was trial and Im not sure how it is working out. But it is a great idea.
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 9:46:11 AM #
After owning the Clie N710c for a month, I have the following observations: The back button can be user programmed to turn the Clie on and off which is a nice feature. The cradle cable power supply can be plugged directly into the serial port, thus becoming a nice travel charger. You can use a program called PowerRUN to launch many applications residing in the memory stick, thus saving precious internal memory. The screen scratches easily. Buy a screen protector from someone like Brando HK. A nice replacement to the default launcher is called Crs Launcher, which is hires and freeware. The case scratches easily and the front cover is poorly attached to the case. Buy a leather case/cover. With all the added features, this PDA is one of the most complex to set up and run to utilize all its potential. Otherwise, I think that it is the best Palm PDA currently out there, at least until the N610c comes out. RE: Tips for New Clie OwnersI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 8:23:39 PM #
I got to add that dust particles can get into the inside of the screen. It bugs the hell out of me and I don't know what to do to get it out. Anyone got a idea of how to clean it or hot to prevent more dust particles to get in. RE: Tips for New Clie OwnersI.M. Anonymous @ 7/27/2001 10:14:10 AM #
to seal dust go here...it will void warranty though and takes a bit of know-how. http://www.geocities.com/jhc19104/710C/Mainpage.htm
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:42:59 AM #
One thing you didn't go into was the speed of the devices, which is one thing I really disliked about the 710. Having a 505 and wondering if I should upgrade, the first thing I noticed is switching between the built-in apps is much slower on the 710. You might say you could but Afterburner on it to make it faster, but doing the same to the 505 would make the 505 faster still. I know the 710 has to push more pixels out, but that's part of the trade off, so I just thought I'd throw that in there. Switching between apps isn't any scientific way of testing the speed, but my un-overclocked 505 could display a full screen full of data before the 710 could display on empty one. So...both are awesome devices though. No need to argue. RE: Speed 710 vs 505I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:51:10 AM #
Try using Benchmark 2.0 on your m505 to find the relative timing. I am getting 300% using Afterburner 3.0z on my N710c and am happy with its speed. RE: Speed 710 vs 505I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:54:46 AM #
What MHz do you run it at on the 710? Or rather, what is the fastest it can sustain? RE: Speed 710 vs 505I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 11:40:03 AM #
What are your settings? I can only get 284% @ 54 Mhz Fast Mpx=on Hints? RE: Speed 710 vs 505I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 11:48:05 AM #
Hmmmm... Interesting comment. The speed between switching apps. Sounds like you should get an iPAQ, the speed is much much much faster and the screen is much much better than m505. BTW, I have owned 710C since it's very early debut in US, I can't say there is speed problem between switching the apps. The photo is indeed slow, but the end results are excellent. RE: Speed 710 vs 505I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 12:37:46 PM #
Biggest issue here is the OS.... I tried a demo 610c sent to Rush Pres. here is Chicago (trying to sell to nurses and Doctors here) and it is faster then my 710c is. Being a tech geek I love the hi-res display and and the memory stick is not a problem because the only SD handhelds are the palm. Plus I have a sony digi camera and the sticks work for both ;) RE: Speed 710 vs 505I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 4:18:58 PM #
>> I tried a demo 610c sent to Rush Pres. here is Chicago (trying to sell to nurses and Doctors here) and it is faster then my 710c is. << That may be due to Palm OS 4.0 on the 610c; supposedly 4.0 contains faster database access routines and possibly some other speed increases over OS 3.5. RE: Speed 710 vs 505I.M. Anonymous @ 7/27/2001 5:18:40 AM #
Yeah, M505 and n610c are running OS 4.0. Try comparing FPS of two identical comps, but one running Win95 and one WinXp. Besides, is 3/10 of a second that long? Back in my day, it took 20 minutes to boot to MS Word!
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 10:44:14 AM #
I could be wrong about the future of medical applications tending to be developed for the more robust (& less reliable?) Pocket PC operating system. I think the strongest expression of this point of view that I've heard was the current article by the Edward M. Zabrek, MD, the medical editor for Pocket PC Magazine. I would very much appreciate any comments that could address the in-depth review of medical applications that he has published. Thanks, Rob RE: Medical Applications for Palm OS & Pocket PCsI.M. Anonymous @ 7/26/2001 12:42:17 PM #
Palm is the standard here at Rush Pres. in Chicago. There updates being done in the "High Traffic" rooms to add IR ports to retreve info from a database server. Helps for billing and retreving info for out of state doctor recommendations. The software Palm is growing as well with vendors making software that reads from MS and SD cards and the small form factor is a big plus (no sleds to add for more memory) and the ease of use. The number of different devices that work alike is helping people chose the device thats right for them as well.
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