Comments on: Palm Treo Pro Review
Unlike many past Palm smartphone introductions the Treo Pro is premiering as an unlocked model first in most markets. The device will be made available online at Palm.com for $549 USD beginning sometime this fall. Being an unlocked device it comes with a higher than normal price tag because of the absence of carrier subsidies and discounts. However, customers do gain the option of bringing their own SIM card and phone plan to use on the GSM network (AT&T or T-Mobile in the US) of their own choice.
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RE: Not hardware-graphics enabled?
RE: Not hardware-graphics enabled?
That is to say, they had their reasons for NOT (simply) enabling the hardware acceleration.
Power?
Bugginess of Qualcomm display drivers?
NOT using Qualcomm chips?
[I think someone posted that they DID use Qualcomm chips, though]
I don't know why they aren't using that.
But they're not stupid so I'm sure they have their reasons.
Nice Review
I still don't believe it even if Ryan says so. I will believe it has 3.5mm audio when I plug my own buds in. :-D
Pat Horne
RE: Krackho likes it
Giggle.
[strangely, Jim Cramer (the guy who founded/owns TheStreet.com) apparently just said on his Fast Money that Palm is, while not necessarily a Buy, possibly worth looking at. No connection, of course...]
intell?
If I have a Treo 700P with Verizon, is my only Palm OS option the Centro now?
RE: intell?
Right now, Palm's only "current" Palm OS product is the Centro. They MAY release a Garnet-based Centro 2 sometime early next year but for right now we have zero rumors on that.
Your only option right now is either to get one of the leftover Verizon 755p's or go with a Centro. Regardless of which choice you make, either one will be leaps beyond the 700p.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: intell?
Origined right on this web site, as a matter of fact!
Can't have a PalmOS 6 without a PalmOS 6 device!
Giggle.
usability review
It would be very interesting that in future reviews of new devices you include a video on how to perform these all-day-long activities: dial number, activate speaker and mute, send - check - answer an SMS, write an email, check missed calls, visit a webpage, take a photo or a video, etc. It would provide an idea of usability and general speed of the device and **very important** żis it a two-hands device or can be operated single-handed?
Anyhow, thank you for the magnificent review... I am considering a hard upgrade and Treo Pro makes me wonder if it can be a good option...
RE: usability review
i can help you on your question about unlocked/locked?
if you buy palm treo pro unlocked you can use any carrier you want that has the sim card
locked mean that the phone you baught it from that is the only one who can provide the sevice
thank
apsjr1
Treo Pro!
RE: Treo Pro!
Unlocked means you can insert a SIM chip to whatever TelCo you want.
RE: Treo Pro!
The "unlocked" aspect of this device only applies to GSM carriers: AT&T and T-Mobil in the US.
So, it looks like Verizon users are out of luck. :( The only Verizon Palm devices currently available are the Centro and the 700wx.
palm treo pro
compared to BB curve the pro is not up to par either.
it doesnt surf the web as well
the stylus is in poor location.
the battery heats up like a hot kettle. scary.
the screen even at maximum font and brightness is way to small.
no way no way no way.
Im a real palm fan because of the win OS and ease of use. but the pro is a step backwards. the keys are to cropped uo together for a man with average size hands.
i can operate my treo 700p with 1 hand no problem. not with the Pro. this is must have feature for people on the go, 1 hand operation.
the case is to slippery, they should have used some silicone to make it easier to hold and a bit larger similar to the 700p would have been perfect, this to would ahve allowed for a wider screen. Palm has issues with the batterys overheating this phone is no exception. fully charged 3 hours out 35% less battery power remains.
I can use the curve from BB for 3 days without having to recharge it and im constantly using it to surf the web via my server. and phone usage as well.
I still use my 700p for my eamils because its the best for that application , handling pdf, excel and word are also a favorite for me to use the 700p.
why did palm not look at the BB curve and incorporate its ease to surf and phone features and battery life and melt it in with the awsome Palm documents and email features I so love with palm windows o/s.
Treo pro
Too slow, I would say irritatingly slow, compared to say my previous Treo 650, or current (after I threw away Treo Pro) Nokia E71. Windows 6.1 freezes often and in general has all the features that make windows so "beloved" by professional programmers. Palm OS was a great piece of software and Windows 6.1 has definitely killed the whole pleasure of having Treo Pro.
Display
The worst thing probably in Treo Pro. Practically unreadable under sunlight (compare to the BB, LG or Nokia), bluefish or whitish tint is so strong that you get the impression manufacturers have done it intentionally to spoil the look and as far as the screen is the most important thing for a smartphone, you just get irritated all the time as you always think it is dirty all the time. To say nothing of the screensaver, which is absolutely poor and pale.
Keyboard
Very ineffective, keys situated in straight rows, which, after Treo 650 with curved rows, is just unpleasant to look at. Smaller keys, distance between them smaller, in general a step back, if not a couple. Accuracy does not suffer too much either, but when you say every time that this or that feature has not suffered too much, it means it has suffered and when you sum up all that has suffered "not too much" , you get what you would not want if you knew at the end.
Wireless Data & Wi-Fi
If these features were not there why purchase that phone these days at all?
Camera
Good in very good light and terrible in normal light and less.
Battery
No two full days at all, you have to recharge every day, especially if you want to see anything on the screen. Often left without power, I had to turn it off. Nothing like that happened with my Treo 650 or current phone.
Audio
Absolutely nothing noteworthy.
Treo Pro Software
So little left from Palm OS that there is nothing to discuss. Whatever new is there it comes from HTC or Windows, but when you hold a Palm in your hand you want it to be Palm and not HTC mixed with Windows, plus being always mistaken by people around you as an iPhone.
GPS, Messaging, Web, Office & Other Apps
Average
Multimedia & Entertainment
Shamefully poor
Conclusion
A totally average device, bringing remarkable disappointment. Quite normal in this world nowadays.
RE: Treo pro
Anyway, a slow phone bites big time no matter how cool it is.
Question
I'm forever dropping my phone and I've found that a carrying string is the best thing there is.
So my one concern is this- is there the opening in the phone in which the carrying string can be attached ?
pocket Quicken Application
If it does please give me a report on how well
If it does not give me a report on why it doesn't work
thank
Problems with Treo Pro and Service
Palm Pro
carrying string can be attached
Yes, there is a tiny slit..and I mean tiny on the lower left corner.
Palm Treo Pro
This specific model, which thankfully I have not had anyothers, consistantly locks up. This applies to the internet, the text messages and calendar. Once this happens the only way to get it to start working is to take the battery out, just deleted all unread messages. WOW that really is a win win situation right? (not)
and my latest of course is touching the space bar closes all the windows and brings you to the main screen. Wait it does more magic tricks! fit it one more time and brings up your call log. :) Best of luck to anyone that has this phone, I picked up my 6th replacement today. Lucky me.
RE: Palm Treo Pro
Or perhaps a new Palm WinMo phone?
RE: Palm Treo Pro
No insider info here, just my gut assumption.
I think, despite arguably possessing the best set of overall specs on a front-facing Palm smartphone to date, we have seen the final Palm WinMob device in the Treo Pro. I also highly, highly doubt that we'll see it offered with a 6.5 upgrade or pre-loaded with 6.5. Remember the rumor immediately post-CES that the entire WM team had been dissolved?
Sprint has already removed the Treo Pro from their standard retail lineup, offering it only online and as a special mail-order device. Alltel is just a shell of its former self and AT&T never "officially" offered the device in subsidized form, save for the unbranded BestBuy subsidized version. So with no carrier support for testing etc. I highly doubt Palm will be motived to devote $ and manpower to testing and deploying an OS for rollout on a device that could theoretically cannibalize Pixi and Pre sales.
On the other hand, Verizon could always come out of nowhere with a version of the CDMA TP running 6.5. It would be unlikely but not impossible, as VZW was the only carrier to officially offfer the Treo 700wx with WM 6 last fall and Verizon's recently-acquired Alltel also still offers the Pro so it wouldn't have any major network issues.
SV, didn't you point out something from Palm's last quarterly announcement about an unexpected sale of handsets that had previously been written off? The Treo 800w on Verizon rumors from a few months ago would be a lot more believable if it was the Pro instead of the 800w...
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?
RE: Palm Treo Pro
My new Treo Pro
Used Treo Pro
RE: Used Treo Pro
Not upgradeable
Palm Treo Pro
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Not hardware-graphics enabled?
== speedier device, however on an overall basis the
== Treo Pro felt slower than its recent counterpart
== the Treo 800w with its 333 MHz chip..."
Rumor has it - and I cannot remember WHERE I read it (here?) - is that the Pro does not have hardware acceleration for graphics turned on (assuming it has the inherent capability in the first place).
Why one ODM would turn it on and one would not may speak towards difference in philosophy on robustness.
Didn't some poster here discuss this hardware 800 teak here?