U.S. Undergoes Major Terrorist Attacks

The devastating attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon will prevent any further handheld-related updates today.

I've been told that many people who are still at work don't know what is going on because major news sites are swamped and they don't have TVs so I'll add what I've been able to get from CNN. -Ed

Early this morning, several airliners were deliberately crashed into both towers of the World Trade Center. The building has been totally destroyed. There are no reports yet on casualties, thought they are expected to be high, as 50 thousand people work in the two buildings.

PIC contributor Mike Cane, who lives in New York, was not injured by this. He said, "I heard a WHUMP! and a pressure wave that rattled windows at exactly 9:03AM."

There was another airliner crashed into the Pentagon.

Terrorist Osama bin Ladin is currently the prime suspect.

Update: A plane hit the north tower of the World Trade Center shortly before 9 a.m., followed by another plane into the second tower about 20 minutes later. Both towers have collapsed. More than 10 thousand rescue personnel rushed to the scene. The entire downtown area of Manhattan has evacuated as far north as Rockefeller Center

About an hour later, a plane crashed into the Pentagon. It, the White House, the State Department, the Justice Department, the Capitol, the CIA and all other government buildings in Washington evacuated.

First the first time ever, all flights nationwide have been stopped at their departure airports.

The Immigration and Naturalization Service has put the U.S. borders with Mexico and Canada on highest state of alert.

Update 2: The first casualty estimates state that as many as 10 thousand people may have been killed.

Update 3: CNN is reporting that there has been some kind of attack on Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan.

Update 4: CNN says the attack on Kabul was carried out by an internal faction, not an outside attack.

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Understandable

kisrael @ 9/11/2001 12:25:05 PM #
Apart from the incomprehensible human tragedy associated with events like this is how it makes every other interest and pursuit look so damn petty. Does trying to get on with life disrepect the people who have suffered such loss? Or does stopping everything
let the terrorists 'win' an even greater victory?

RE: Understandable
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:18:18 PM #
Life will go on but work can wait. Bye.

RE: Understandable
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:26:22 PM #
Closing all entities just gives room for rescuers and other people do their work better!!

RE: Understandable
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 11:01:39 AM #
Bin Ladin in yo mouth, y'all

Nostradamus Prophecy

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 12:41:17 PM #
Century 1, Quatrain 87

Ennosigee feu du centre de terre,
Fera trembler autour de cité neuue
Deux gras rochers long tęps feront la guerre,
Puis Arethuse rougira nouueau fleuue.

Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
And then Arethusa will color a new river red


RE: Nostradamus Prophecy
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 12:45:40 PM #
Here's the nostradamus link about 'The New City' -- perhaps New York City:

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/newcity.htm

creepy!

RE: Nostradamus Prophecy
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 5:35:22 PM #
Sounds he's talking about an earthquake and not a terrorist attack...

RE: Nostradamus Prophecy
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 4:12:34 AM #
I would translate autour with "around", not with "towers"

Thyl

Nostradamus Prophecy is HOAX per UrbanLegends.com.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 8:14:14 AM #

"prime suspect"?

bradleyboy @ 9/11/2001 1:15:52 PM #
Ah, the military and criminal experts at Palminfocenter have zeroed in on Osama Bin Laden as the prime suspect. To my knowledge, no federal or military agency has suggested any individual group as the responsible or suspected parties. It may very well be the case that Mr. Bin Laden or any other number of terrorist groups may be responsible, but to identify him as the "prime suspect" without a shred of evidence is ridiculous speculation. Yes, he did apparently try to take down these buildings seven years ago, but speculating that this is his doing again is useless at the moment.

The most important thing right now is to pitch in through prayer, strong hands, and caring support to all those who have been affected by this tragedy, and leave the detective work to the professionals. May God embrace those who have died, comfort the living, and help law enforcement officials bring the guilty to justice.

RE:
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:37:08 PM #
don't be a jerk, Ed is just trying to report the news that he's hearing. Peter Jennings and his panel on ABC said that Bin Laden would be the prime suspect in this situation. Of course it's just an opinion, but it would be a pretty strong one.

RE:
Ed @ 9/11/2001 1:53:07 PM #
> Ah, the military and criminal experts at Palminfocenter have
> zeroed in on Osama Bin Laden as the prime suspect.

F you, I'm reporting what I heard on CNN. This situation is bad enough without jerks like you making it worse.

---
News Editor

RE:
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:54:21 PM #
Washington Post excerpt:
"Although officials had no direct information this morning linking him to the attacks, fugitive terrorist Osama bin Laden is automatically considered the leading suspect behind the bombings, a senior government official said. "

RE:
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:21:56 PM #
Senator Orrin Hatch said that Bin Laden was the prime suspect after he was briefed as a member of the Senate Intelligence committee.


I've been "F"ed by Ed
bradleyboy @ 9/11/2001 4:46:54 PM #
Yes, Ed, you were just repeating the same things you heard. I have heard some irresponsible statements all over the media, including ones by politicians rushing to sound strong in the midst of the tragedy. Yes, Mr. Bin Laden is a suspect, I am sure. My point was that it is just useless speculation with nothing to back it up at the moment, and it does smack of the same knee-jerk finger-pointing we had when Oklahoma City happened. If you remember, everyone immediately thought it was "those Arabs", too. Let's focus on what we non-law enforcement types CAN do: prayer, support of the Red Cross, donating blood, and for those in the NY, Washington, and Pittsburgh area, a helping hand in the rescue and cleanup operations. That is the bottom line. There WILL be justice, in this life or the next, for those accountable. As a minister, I am confident in that truth.

To you, Ed, and to anyone else who was angered or offended by my words, I offer my regrets. I am, however, sorry you thought it necessary, Ed, to cuss me out because I had a different view. Fighting with eachother is another example of the time-wasting activity (baseless, for the time being, speculation) I was originally writing about. So, Ed, I accept your "F" and offer only goodwill to you in return.

peace,

bradleyboy

RE:
Ed @ 9/11/2001 5:55:35 PM #
bradleyboy, I didn't cuss you out because you have a different opinion from me but because you expressed yourself in a rude and sarcastic manner. If you had taken the same reasonable tone in your first message that you did in your second, I wouldn't have blown my stack at you.

Actually, I'm pretty upset about what happened today, which I'm sure contributed to my anger; I'm normally more thick skinned and your comments weren't all that bad. Apology accepted and I shouldn't have gone off on you.

---
News Editor

RE:
bradleyboy @ 9/11/2001 7:12:09 PM #
Ed,

Yes, I see that my statement (Ah, the military and criminal experts at Palminfocenter have zeroed in on Osama Bin Laden as the prime suspect) was a bit sarcastic. I stand by the point I was trying to make, however, that being that you are not an expert in these matters, neither am I, and even the "experts" don't know who is responsible yet. I'm sure we are all shaken up by this and are tense. I know if I wasn't so upset, I would have made my point in a less inflammatory fashion, and your response probably wouldn't have been so crass, either. Thanks for your graceful reply to my reply.

Peace,

bradleyboy

RE:
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:06:09 PM #
No one knows who exactly did this but CNN reports "Terrorism experts, after reviewing the magnitude of the attacks, said few groups in the world would have the resources to carry out such a highly coordinated sequence of destruction. One of those organizations, they said, would be the Al Quaida group headed by bin Laden, who also is the suspected mastermind of the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

U.S. officials said they had received no credible claim of responsibility in the aftermath of Tuesday's events, but said their "working assumption" laid responsibility for the attacks on "overseas terrorism." "

RE: Oh Brother!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:32:41 PM #
I am sorry Bradyboy here, got sarcastic.

Ed was being very nice in reporting what the media was saying!!!
"MEDIA WAS SAYING"

RE: Oh Brother!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:32:41 PM #
I am sorry Bradyboy here, got sarcastic.

Ed was being very nice in reporting what the media was saying!!!

"MEDIA WAS SAYING" Beign the key word

Some people would not have known becuase they do not have tv's at work. This was (IS) very important, and he thought he should of informed it to us that read the Palm Info Center

I say, thank you ED for the information. And everyone watch the news for further information. ( I think that was the main purpose!)Stop taking it personal. I did not see anyone in this post pointing their fingers at any ethnical groups!!

That said, Please Drop it!!!

PRAY!

wilco @ 9/11/2001 1:27:09 PM #
Right now, we can only stay calm and PRAY. PRAY for the affected people. The people in the Twin Towers, in the Pentagon, and everyone whose lives will forever be changed by this tragedy. As bradleyboy had said, there's not much we can do, unless we are near the disater area. So Let's just sent our prayers. With God help, we can overcome this tragedy. We will come out stronger.

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:04:41 PM #
I'm afraid your "god" is the root cause of this tragedy. It's the irrational zealots (on both sides) fighting over a dump of worthless sand in the Middle East that has lead to this. Most great world tragedies can be traced back to some sort of religious conflict... when mankind finally grows up and thinks for itself instead of relying on all the supernatural mumbo-jumbo (christianity, muslim, hindu, jewish), maybe we won't be so inclined to kill each other.

I'll bet that when the investigation is over, it'll be some self-delussional cleric in a tent in some obscure corner of the Middle East (be it bin-ladin or some other loser) that will have heard from his "god" that it was time to kill his fellow man.

Praying won't help... it never does other than to shift the blame off yourself onto some fictional diety. Dropping your irrational superstitions and using logic for a change is what we really need. That and some support for the families of American heroes who died trying to help the victims today.


RE: PRAY!
AriB @ 9/11/2001 2:26:47 PM #
I.M Fuc- you. Thousands of people died and yet you're so stuck up in your nihilistic ideology that you take potshots at people who want to pray for the victims of this tragedy? What a sicko

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 3:01:54 PM #
You are dead wrong - the 20th centuary was filled with more blood shed than all others combined, most in the name of nihilistic and atheistic philosophies. Does one forget the millions destroyed under the atheistic regimes of Stalin and Mao (est 15 million in Russia alone). Does one forget the work of the Nazi's following out Nietzchian philosophies? Bottom line, all types of people have been guilty of evil and atrocities...God help us. I agree, we need to pray.

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 6:20:21 PM #
Exactly. There are secularistic terrorists too.

RE: PRAY!
CarlBrooks @ 9/11/2001 6:59:12 PM #
I would like to respond to the inaccuracies in the post submitted by someone who believes so strongly in their belief that they chose to be "Anonymous".

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:04:41 PM wrote: "I'm afraid your "god" is the root cause of this tragedy. It's the irrational zealots (on both sides) fighting over a dump of worthless sand in the Middle East that has lead to this."

When you stated "I'm afraid your "god" is the root cause of this tragedy.", you are in fact both right and wrong. You are right in the fact that god (with a lower case "g") is responsible. Satan is the lower-case god of this earth. He obtained dominion over the earth when Adam and Eve chose to defy God's commandments. Satan, in fact, still uses people today (that are weak) to carry out his acts of destruction. Because you reject God, you also reject the tools that are available to prevent these acts - like prayer and the spreading of the gospel (which is the good word). The people responsible for these acts were fed lies that allowed them to be used for these horrific actions. The hijackers that flew these planes into the structures were mere puppets of the men that manipulated them. These puppeteers too are foolishly manipulated and controlled by this lower-case god.

Just as you are blinded from the truth, and inadvertently wrote the truth above, you are false in your intended communication that God is some how involved with this. the reason that many people fall for the counterfeit god is that the lies are tightly intertwined with truth. Any thing that is a counterfeit has enough of the real stuff in it to fool people. You are correct when you say that, "Most great world tragedies can be traced back to some sort of religious conflict... ". The bible says that "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places] - Eph 6:12". Therefore the battles that are fought on this earth are spiritual conflicts (or a "religious conflict" as you called it).

You wrote "when mankind finally grows up and thinks for itself instead of relying on all the supernatural mumbo-jumbo (Christianity, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish), maybe we won't be so inclined to kill each other."

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. - Prov.. 3:5-6"

It is when man tries to rationalize and determine that he is smart enough alone to fix the problem is when these situation arise. When he ,as you put it, "...grows up and thinks for itself instead of relying on all the supernatural mumbo-jumbo" is when he does not have a chance for the right outcome.

You wrote: "I'll bet that when the investigation is over, it'll be some self-delusional cleric in a tent in some obscure corner of the Middle East (be it bin-ladin or some other loser) that will have heard from his "god" that it was time to kill his fellow man."

Gods says: "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding - Prov. 9:10". What is fear of the Lord? "The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth - Prov. 8:13"

Clearly one who allows himself to carry out these types of acts are not one who fears God. They clearly have not acted with wisdom or knowledge of the truth.

You wrote: "Praying won't help... it never does other than to shift the blame off yourself onto some fictional deity. Dropping your irrational superstitions and using logic for a change is what we really need."

Read Proverbs chapter 10, and you'll see the distinct differences in people. There are of two types: one that accepts the truth and is wise, and one rejects truth and is foolish. The heart of the wicked is of little worth, they die in search of wisdom. It is as sport to a fool to do mischief. The tongue of the just is as choice silver, and their lips feed many and the desire if the righteous shall be granted - Prov. 10:20-24.

Prayer is the key. We must resist the devil and turn to God. Pray for those involved and affected by this mess. Admit that we don't know everything and that everything is not in control in the hands of man alone. God uses men to do good in the earth. We must chose to accept the responsibilities that we have - one of which is to pray.

You wrote that we need to focus on"...support for the families of American heroes who died trying to help the victims today."

There is good into you and you are seeking the truth that is why you wrote what you did. God has heard you and responded.

God says "I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone-- for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men--the testimony given in its proper time. And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles. I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing. - 1 Timothy 2:1-8"

Father, in the name of Jesus, We pray for those in authority. That they make the proper decisions concerning the swift capture and punishment of the misguided persons involved. We pray that people resist the fear that man might to implant in them to try and thwart the investigation. That they fear You and come forth with information that they know. We ask that your ministering spirits go forth and guide your people. To have your people boldly speak the truth - even more bolder than those willing to spread lies. We thank you for your angels that you have assigned to the issues of this day. You have given your angels charge over those affected by these events, to keep them about the actions that are in line with your ways. We reverence you and acknowledge you as our Lord and Savior. Thank you for the angel of the LORD who encamps all around your children and delivers them from perilous situations. We bless the families of the lost, the rescue workers, the nation's security experts, and all those mentioned above, that they may be powerful in the land, and fulfill their divine destiny. Amen.

Sincerely,
God loyal before Palm loyal,

Carl Brooks
Palmloyal Author
911 - America pauses to absorb the impact of the terror
http://www.palmloyal.com/article.php?sid=412


RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:02:24 PM #
Sweet merciful crap! I can't believe you people!

The first estimate says that 10,000 people are dead (not injured, wounded, etc. but DEAD) and here you are quoting useless bible verses, debating over the existance of god or God or gOD or whatever! UN-FSCKING-BELIEVEABLE!

Drop the high and mighty tone and theological debates and just FEEL for the people and families affected by this mess.

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:11:00 PM #
I can't believe this is going on in a Palm fourm but with the comment "Satan, in fact, still uses people today (that are weak) to carry out his acts of destruction", you yourself are shifting blame away from some very sick, delusional people who have no one else to blame but themsleves. This 'devil made me do it' stuff makes me sick.

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:42:01 PM #
So not only are we Techies, your also religious freaks.

Again, Donate Blood for those in need!

No one can resolve right now the "GOD" vs "Devil" thing.

Do something to help, if not Shut UP. Praying just calms the soul of the person who is praying.

If God is so MIGHTY, what makes anyone think That WE Humans beings (misly little things) have the power to make HIM/HER/IT do stuff like we like it!!!

Drop the discussion, its useless, everyone has their conviction and no one is going to change it.

This is the reason why wars and things like today happen!!!

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 10:26:12 PM #
Jesus Christ, save me from your followers...

RE: PRAY!
CarlBrooks @ 9/12/2001 7:59:13 AM #
Listen to yourself, you would rather "Drop the high and mighty tone and theological debates and just FEEL for the people and families affected by this mess." What will feeling for a person do? Pray can change things, feeling for somthing is just that. Do give blood, or donate money. Neither God nor the devil make anyone do anything. We have a free will. We chose which direction we go, whether good or bad.

Deuteronomy 30:19 - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Some choose death and cursing as oppose to life and blessing.

"No one can resolve right now the "GOD" vs "Devil" thing. Do something to help, if not Shut UP. Praying just calms the soul of the person who is praying. If God is so MIGHTY, what makes anyone think That WE Humans beings (misly little things) have the power to make HIM/HER/IT do stuff like we like it!!!"

No one is trying to convert anyone here, if you are going to fill the pages with things that are incorrect, I will fill it up with the truth. I am not quoting my opinions, like you are. I am quoting God's word. Because you reject the truth does not make it a lie. I didn't start this thread, I'm reponding your posts.

Carl Brooks
Palmloyal Author
911 - America pauses to absorb the impact of the terror
http://www.palmloyal.com/article.php?sid=412

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 8:03:24 AM #
Let's not turn this place into a debate over "religion". We cannot hope to convert those who do not believe in God through this venue, so discussion here will take us in a direction that is not beneficial to anyone reading these comments. If you are inclined to prayer, as I am, let's just do so. Who are we trying to help through these discussions? Are we genuinely concerned for the families of those who were killed, or do we just want to brag about our own beliefs and banter rhetorical platitudes about belief systems. In the finally analysis, what you do is between you and God. If you believe in a god with a small "g", then it's your choice. If you believe in God with a big "G", then you certainly know what you must do. Don't argue it here in this forum, let's just go to Him (with a big "H") and seek His guidance and protection from these atrocities. May God bless and watch over us all in these times.

RE: PRAY!
superbenk @ 9/12/2001 9:59:01 AM #
If it wasn't for the love of God and the desire to be able to worship him freely or discuss him freely in any public (did you catch PUBLIC?) forum, you wouldn't have your blessed country, AMERICA, to be so proud of! This country was founded for the afore mentioned very reason. So before you go condemning the author of that original message, why don't you condemn the God fearing Christians who founded this country and made it possible for every right and freedom you have today. Please think about that BEFORE you try and remove some of these freedoms we have fought so hard to protect as well -- like the ability and right to speak of and worship God.

God is love and it is rediculous to say that he is the reason this happened. If you are to say that, you are completely ignorant of the subject and you sould be the one to shut up.

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 10:43:03 AM #
Let's save our fury for the HAMMER that's going to come down. If this was done in the name of Allah (Blessed be His name), then let's help some of those that believe this way to meet their maker all the sooner.

RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 3:32:42 PM #
The majority of people thinking that retaliation is not right thing and asking what would it accomplish are thinking more with their heart than they are logically. Retaliation in this sense is to show that we as a world power will not stand for such acts of terrorism. In addition, by retaliating and retaliating hard we make sure that no one now or ever has the audacity to commit such a violent cowardice act again. We as Americans have assumed the role of the World police, in a sense. An attack on us is like saying its ok to go against your local authorities and nothing will happen. It gives rise to future attacks and shows weakness. This is not the situation we can allow ourselves to be put in as a world power! As peaceful people, we of course must think otherwise. What does killing the opposition and probably innocent people prove. This is not the situation we are put in; right now, we cannot allow ourselves to think in such a manner. But in a manner of "How can we prevent these acts from happening again."

RE: PREY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 11:33:45 AM #
The worship of the sky insults the men of earth.

YOU pray to your 'god' that (if he exsisted) is at least partially responsible for this - If only for standing by and letting it happen.

Personally, I think any ONE of those rescue workers is a thousand times greater than your so-called 'god' - At least they're actually DOING something.



RE: PRAY!
CarlBrooks @ 9/14/2001 4:41:06 AM #
Lets be constructive and not destructive.

Here's how you can help the victims of Tuesday's tragedy.

Give Blood
http://www.redcross.org/donate/give/
1-800-GIVE-LIFE

Donate Funds Online Through The Red Cross
http://www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html
1-800-HELP-NOW

Donate Funds Online Through The United Way of New York City
http://www.uwnyc.org
https://www.uwnyc.com/epledge/sept11.cfm
1-212-251-4035
United Way, 2 Park Ave, New York, New York, 10016

Pray for the Nation
http://www.heartlight.org/prayerforthenation/

Carl Brooks
http://www.palmloyal.com


RE: PRAY!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 12:29:03 PM #
Hey screw all of you that would put down the 'Almighty GOD' and screw Satan and all his f_ _kin' aaraab freakin followers. God and Satan are real, just look @ the headlines morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pray for peace and wisdom why dont you!!!


Any suspects as to whom might have done it?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:44:12 PM #
Might have been China, they were pretty pissed about the spy planes.

Or it could be some other country trying to make some other country a scapegoat.

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
tiger_bb @ 9/11/2001 2:23:45 PM #
please stop guessing without any prove or facts support. don't you feel sad about this tragedy?

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