Comments on: Latest m505 and m500 Shipping Reports (Updated)

Some readers have reported that despite being promised an m505 today, Staples stores have changed their story to having the m505 in a week or so. However, they did get the m500 in today. Many Office Depot stores also have the m500 in stock.

There is at least one online store that has the m505 in stock and shipping. eDigitalStop.com swears they have them in their warehouse and will ship within 48 hours.

Update: eDigitalStop.com has now taken orders for all thirty m505s they had. They are still taking orders on a backorder basis.

If anyone hears of a store, online or bricks-and-mortar, that gets the m505 in, please let the rest of us know. -Ed

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Talked to Palm Last night

Jake @ 4/26/2001 10:41:47 AM #
The customer service rep I talked to at Palm indicated that the first batch of m505s had been shipped to stores yesterday. We should see them rolling in this weekend. She also indicated that even though I had placed my order the day before they were available, I was still looking at a week to two weeks before they recieved theirs.

RE: Talked to Palm Last night
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:54:41 AM #
I called the store edigitalstop and the customer service rep told me they would be shipping them out Monday. Why not today overnight if they have them? So, I would agree that the info you got was correct. They are probably on the way and will be received this weekend and that’s why they are not shipping till Monday. Well, I'm sure Office Depot will have them Monday also if not this weekend. I buy lots of stuff online but because I want the option of a hassle free return, I will wait for Office Depot or Staples. It's getting close to us all finally getting our M505's

RE: Talked to Palm Last night
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:50:45 PM #
I spoke with Palm today and the representative told me that 60% of the m505 would go to retailers and 40% would go to Palm directly. She also said that Palm would begin shipping in the middle to the end of May.

eDigitalStop.com

Ed @ 4/26/2001 10:41:22 AM #
I ordered from eDigitalStop.com this morning. I really hope they actually have the units in stock and aren't just yanking my chain. The Customer Service rep. wasn't able to tell me how many units they had in stock but she did say they were selling them first come/first serve. I'm a bit nervous about ordering from a small store that I've never heard of before but I'm willing to take the risk.

BTW, their site isn't the best organized. To get to the m505, I clicked on the link in the article, then in the Site Map that comes up I clicked on Palm Central near the lower right under Home-Office, then clicked on View All Results. The m505 is near the bottom of that list.

I now have three m505's on order. Here, Staples, and Palm itself. I hope one of them comes in eventually and I can cancel the other two.

Speaking of cancelling, the guy at Staples promised me I could have my $20 back if I got one somewhere else. Seems only fair considering he promised me he'd have it in today and now he says maybe next week.

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter

RE: eDigitalStop.com (m505 delivery)
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:23:57 AM #
just got off the phone with eDigital, and their site stinks, no help at all. seems fishy, they don't even have the m500 for sale or any specs on the m505, just a 1.5" photo of the product. spoke with a very rude sales person who couldn't say anything about when it would ship, but that they "had them". she said " i'll have someone from the company call you back"- i guess to tell me when they can expect to ship. sounds to me like a floundering e-company that wants to get commitments for sales with bogus info, then get what they can from the folks who don't cancel. beware.
i'm waiting for this weekend, staples said sunday or monday. what a runaround, palm should have had their
sh*! together on this one.

RE: eDigitalStop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:34:01 AM #
I just ordered one as well. She said they will ship either this Friday or Monday and they will e-mail me the tracking number. The store is located in NY and I live in NYC, so I did not feel the need to expedite the shipping. The total came to $449.95, which I find odd because if the store is in NY and I live in NY they should have charged me tax. Obviously I didn't mention that to them. If I don't hear from them by late Monday, I'll probably cancel it and just go with Office Depot or Staples. The good thing about credit cards is that one can just cancel it and move on. If they try to charge me, I'll have recourse. If I do get it, I'll post here.

By the way, I was one of the people who had heard from a Staples manager that the m505 was supposed to be in end of this week. I went in yesterday to check out the m500, very nice by the way, and he told me that Staples delivery has been pushed back a week or two. My order on their website is now scheduled for a May 10 delivery and his store is expecting them around May 15. I think these units are going to just trickle in to a few places here and there and it will be pot luck. I could be order #6 with edigitalshop and they may only get five in. This is a real pain in the a*s, especially since I have to get my wife one too. I never should have given her my old PV. :-(

Don't buy from eDigitalStop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:55:02 AM #
See my other message below!

RE: eDigitalStop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:51:46 PM #
Doen't it seem odd that this is the only merchant that has the product in stock?

RE: eDigitalStop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:54:21 PM #
Very.

RE: eDigitalStop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 8:04:22 PM #
I have a theory about why eDigitalStop is the first to ship them. Other stores like Staples or OD may have them in stock at their central distribution centers but Palm is cracking down on them about not releasing before a certain day, like sometime in May. Palm may be trying to not get distributors mad at them and each other so everyone has to wait until everyone has got some in stock.

eDigitalStop may have decided it was worth pissing Palm off to be the first out of the gate. Or else they didn't read the fine print are dong this by accident. Or they hope they are so small Palm won't notice them. Or they may not ship them at all on Monday and they are making the whole thing up.

RE: eDigitalStop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/26/2001 8:21:37 PM #
I phoned Action on thursday 0800333333
they have the 500 in stock (plenty}

RE: eDigitalStop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/26/2001 8:21:37 PM #
I phoned Action on thursday 0800333333
they have the 500 in stock (plenty}

Don't buy from eDigitalStop.com!!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:49:39 AM #
I previously purchased a digital camera from them. Same situation, they claimed they had them and would ship within the next day or two. Needless to say, they didn't ship in time and actually shipped after other stores received product (they didn't have the product in reality, I confirmed that with the manufacturer)! When I finally received the camera, it was broken! When I called to get a replacement, they claimed it wasn't their problem because I hadn't bought an extended warranty!!! Couldn't believe it. Finally, had to send it back at my own cost, and cancel the charge with my credit card and battle it out with merchant services mediation!

Don't buy from them, they are a scam!

RE: Don't buy from eDigitalStop.com!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:56:37 AM #
It certainly sounds bad. However, I don't think it will hurt me to leave my order open till Monday and see what happens from there. I could always cancel it.

RE: Don't buy from eDigitalStop.com!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 12:06:25 PM #
Agree completely, don't be scamed!!

DO Buy from eDigitalStop.com!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:38:33 PM #
Has everyone gotten so suspicious that we no longer take people at their word? Why should this be a scam? Companies aren't successful by $%#@ing their customers over so I think these people are a legitimate business just trying to sell items their customers want. At worst, they may be operating under incorrect information, for which we can hardly blame them. The same thing happened to Staples. Why all this negative stuff about eDigitalStop when we already know that Staples has pulled the rug from under at least 100x as many people? I'm one of the people who was promised I'd have an m505 from them by yesterday and now they are saying next week sometime. But is this forum filled with angry comments about Staples? No, it is filled with negative comments about another store who hasn't done anything to deserve them from people who have no hard facts to back them up. Yes, one person had a bad experience. These things happen. I can't name a store I haven't had a bad experience with at one time or another. The same goes for my job, many of my friends and, hell, even my wife. A single bad experience that didn't even happen to you isn't enough reason to spread stories that a company is a bunch of crooks. You have a first amendment right to say whatever you want but you have a duty to make sure that what you are saying is true.

Small companies like this increasing our choices are what the Internet is all about. If we drive all of them out of business with rumors and gossip, the only options left will be the giant megastores who can go back to charging anything they want for their products. Why have an Internet at all if it has just two bookstores and three electronics shops? I can already drive to two bookstores and three electronics shops!

As for the people who are suggesting you buy a m500 just to play with it until the m505 comes out, that's contemptible. The return policy is to help people who have actually made a mistake about buying the wrong item, not to give you a free toy. I don't care if you think Palm deserves it for the way they are putting out the m505, the only people being hurt is the store you are buying the m500 from. Don't hurt companies whose only mistake is trusting you to be honest. And don't lie to yourself, buying a product you intent to use then return is dishonest.

-RobZombie

update--Edigitalstop.com on backorder
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:09:06 PM #
I just spoke with a customer service representative from edigital and as of right now they are on backorder. They did have the 30 m505 however they have been overloaded with so many orders that they are now on backorder. Thinking about just hitting staples to get the free gamecard.


m505 shipping

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 12:43:26 PM #
I just got off the phone with a customer rep. at eDigital who said that had 30 m505s and would begin shipping Monday on a first come, first served basis. He could tell me that he had not yet reached this number of phone orders, but did not know how many online orders there were. Thus it is hard to say whether all 30 have alraedy been committed or not. He also said they had peripherals, e.g. serial cradle.

Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 1:17:36 PM #
Hello to all PALM fans in the UK,

I live in Portugal, but I have friendīs in the UK that will buy me my future M505.

So, please to all Palm-fans in the UK, let us know when the Palms M500/505 are available in London.

Best regards
Joao Gomes


RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 3:30:59 PM #
I live in the States if you are interested I will ship one to you.

RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK - what about the freq.
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 11:34:42 AM #
Sure we could buy one in the states, but I'm guessing you couldn't charge it due to the different voltages and power frequency? UK is 240v / 50hz!

Anyone who has one of these - is there a power converter switch actually on the power supply - and does the instruction manual mention what country differences there are?

RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 3:19:45 PM #
All you need is an adpter.
Input:100-240V~
0.03A , 50-60Hz

D. Silva

RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 1:06:07 PM #
Adaptors aside, does anyone actually know when will the m500/505 ship in the UK? If it doesn't take too
long I'd rahter buy it here than have someone bring it over from the States.

Cheers

George

RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/1/2001 8:45:01 AM #
Spoke to someone at sales in the UK.

Latest scheduled release for Europe is:

m500 in mid-May
m505 at end of June

Prices (includes shipping)
m500 Ģ330.33
m505 Ģ470.82

Not sure the m505 price is correct.
Seems very expensive. www.palm.com lists m505 as $449 US Dollars. (about Ģ314?)


RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 8:35:20 PM #
Hello

Thank you for all the information.

I Guess now all of you guys, have your own M505... Grrr

Thank you again, but I will wait a little more, and check all my friendīs for a NY trip to a Office Depot.

I am also making a list off all NY Office Depotīs listed here.

I have also to check also the on the power supply, sell in the states.

Best Regardīs
Joao Gomes



RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/26/2001 8:54:24 PM #
you can get the palm 500 from Action Tel 0800333333
for Ģ252.99 +vat

RE: Palm 500/505 in the UK (When?)
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/26/2001 9:04:46 PM #
To any one who has got the 500/505
is the fact that it is double the weight of the Vx
not a draw back ?

Palm M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 1:56:44 PM #
As of 1:54 EST Edigital have no more Palm M 505 avaliable, if they ever had them at all. The now say on the phone 2 week delivery to get more in stock

RE: Palm M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:31:19 PM #
As a person who ordered one from them this morning, that actually makes me feel better. If this was a total scam, they'd just keep promising them next week to people.

And if it is a scam, I'm still in touch with an old fraternity buddy who has friends in New York who arrange 'accidents".

Yeah right

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 1:56:57 PM #
If I were the manager of a struggling e-retail business that was closing down soon unless they had a good April, I would be very tempted to begin taking orders for all those expensive Palm m505's that people were calling about. After all, what can we lose? All one has to do is to say that we have it in stock but we only have a certain number. As long a we don't give out the individual person's number, we can just say that we ran out next week and that our "next shipment" would occur anytime. People who are desparate will want to believe that we have them and place their orders. It's something I might do if I were going to get laid off next week or if it looks like payroll couldn't be met.

more

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:01:27 PM #
Those of you who ordered, your credit cards have already been charged because they were "in stock" right? Anyone want to lay odds that they will be shipping any units?

RE: more
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:15:26 PM #
I ordered one this morning and I'll call my credit card company tomorrow and see if they posted the charge. If they did and they don't ship it on Monday, I'll then cancel it. Big freakin' deal. If they do ship them on Monday, I should have it by the end of the week. If not, life goes on and i'll get refunded. Not so difficult- you make it out like I took a blood oath.

RE: more
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:21:11 PM #
Spoken like someone who has yet to undergo the tooth-pullingly unpleasant experience of disputing a credit card charge with an unsavory retailer.

RE: more
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:36:06 PM #
I posted above and I agree with you that it might become unpleasant, but they are a Gomez certified merchant, which I think is My Simon's rating, and all I'm trying to do is take a shot and see what happens. If they don't ship on Monday and give me the runaround when I cancel, I can just call my credit card company and put the charge in dispute and let it play out. The place may be a struggling e-tailer and may also be unscrupulous, not that I have any evidence to say so, but to be in business they DO HAVE TO SHIP SOME PRODUCT or else what are they doing? Just charging customers cards and not delivering for weeks on end? I don't think that would be possible. Give me till Monday or Tuesday and I'll post here again.

RE: more
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:37:32 PM #
I checked online and my credit card hasn't been charged yet.

RE: more
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 3:21:35 PM #
Gomez is a consulting firm, not a consumer protection agency or a respected consumer advocacy like Consumer Reports. In fact, many of the firms they give positive reviews toward (for instance, Expedia was ranked best travel site by them last year) also "just happen" to employ their consultants. There are many incidents of this.

I noticed at the local Borders another large consulting firm is trying to do the same thing. (Ranking Borders.com the best online bookseller when it was so bad they are having Amazon cobrand and do fufillment on their website soon.) Check it out.

If Ralph Nader were dead, he'd be rolling over in his grave...

RE: more
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 5:43:37 PM #
If it were only that simple. You can't cancel an order by calling your credit card company. You must wait for the charge to show up and then submit your request in writing. It must be adjudicated by the credit card company. If it has shipped by then, then your request to cancel will be denied. You then have to recieve the unit, whenever you do, and then return it and wait for a credit.

Staples Bay Area m505

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:11:42 PM #

just got off the phone with a sales manager of staples in the bay area, and he said, instead of sunday or monday, it will be the end of next week for the m505.
he said the adv. in this sundays paper will be for the
m500 only, no m505.

RE: Staples Bay Area m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:56:35 AM #
When I reserved a 505 at the local staples, the sales lady promised a free game expansion card for pre-registering
AND she promised a free memory expansion card (not sure of the size...she said 16, but she didin't
seem sure at all) for buying it staples. I made her explain it to me very clearly and sure enough,
she's promising 2 free cards with the palm 505. She also promises to have them by saturday or
tuesday latest...but I'm not holding out for that. I'm guessing a few weeks.

m
slc



RE: Staples Bay Area m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 10:48:04 AM #
Which staple is that? Can you please let us know. Thanks

Free game card or save the sales tax M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:20:43 PM #
The free game card at staples is worth about $30.
When you buy on line, often you avoid sales tax (in Calif 7.5%) or about $35 on the m505. Shipping through someone like outpost is nominal and some are free. So its all about a wash. The big diff will be if you can get it sooner at Staples or by purchasing on line. You might be able to purchase on line and the game card for cheaper than buying at a store and getting the free game card. :-)

RE: Free game card or save the sales tax M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:41:30 PM #
Huh? It isn't Staples v. on-line -- you can order on-line from Staples, which is what I did. (Free shipping, free game card. Note, though, that you do pay sales tax because Staples has a business "presence" in almost every state.)

RE: Free game card or save the sales tax M505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 4:59:09 PM #
I know that it is already on the website however some of the stores in my area are not knowledgable about the promotion re: the game card.

Where are the reviews?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 2:38:41 PM #
I am curious why most of the big web sites (like Cnet) have not posted any reviews on the m500 or m505?
This is a major product launch for Palm. One would think that their press dept would supply all the important media outlets with units in anticipation of the launch.

But then again, it seems as if this whole 'launch' is a bit chaotic to begin with, so maybe Palm dropped the ball on that front, too.

Any ideas?

Confirmation from edigitalshop.com

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 3:08:52 PM #
Here is a part of the confirmation I just recieved from them. So far all looks good and I e-mailed back requesting a quote on Next Day and Second Day Air and also asked if the will ACTUALLY be shipping on Monday. I'll provide a further update.

---------------------Order Summary---------------------


Item Subtotal: $449.95
Shipping Cost: $ 0.00
GRAND TOTAL: $449.95
Includes 0.00 sales tax (if applicable)


Shipping Method:


--------------------Special Instructions---------------

-----------------Individual Item Breakdown-------------

Item Ref. Price ea. Qty. Description
_______________________________________________________
Palm $449.95 1 m505

------------------------End of Order-------------------
Thanks for you order!

------------------------Help Center--------------------

Additional information can be accessed at the "Help Center" link.

Our automated tracking system is currently unavailable. Please e-mail the
webmaster at buy@edigitalstop.com if you require tracking information. Or
you may call us toll free at 1-888-790-2377.

Most orders are shipping within 2-3 business days from your order date,
pending credit card authorization.

RE: Confirmation from edigitalshop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 3:57:05 PM #
Their automated tracking system is unavailable, what a shock!

RE: Confirmation from edigitalshop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 5:47:15 PM #
Wow! It looks like they know how to take an order and process it! What is sorely lacking, however, is any method of showing if and when your order will ship. Funny how nothing about this document says what is in stock or any promise of shipping the unit anytime soon.

RE: Confirmation from edigitalshop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 8:26:34 AM #
I sent them an email asking if they had them and when they would be sending them out. Here is the reply.

No that's not the case. We are expecting goods to arrive as early as
Monday.

Ron



RE: Confirmation from edigitalshop.com
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:32:54 AM #
Ahh, the old "As early as..." kissing cousin to ever popular "As low as...", both of which mean absolutely nothing at all when you really think about it!

500 Series Keyboard and Modem

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 4:20:31 PM #
I heard from Palm tech support that you are unable to use the keyboard and palm modem at the same time. Once while on the net I saw a photo of an expected modem for the 500 series that used the sd slot and also wasnt the size of a brick like the new 500 series modem. Has anyone got any information on this?

yeah, i've seen 'em
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:16:10 PM #
i was @ a palm seminar in Itasca. they had the modem there. I saw it, and it was SMALL! theoreticaly, if you can use your keyboard on card apps, you must be able to use it with an SD modem (or other device). since palm has the first ability, the ability to use the modem at the same time is almost definately there

that small SD modem you saw was a mock-up prototytpe
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/28/2001 12:43:06 PM #
the real working thing doesnt exist yet. Only modem available now is the big sled-type.

RE: SD Modem a Mockup
Ed @ 4/28/2001 2:49:48 PM #
Please read this article about the SD peripherals. It points out that none of these will be ready earlier than this Fall.
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1787

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter

Fry's Electronics Palo Alto, 20 m500 in stock

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 4:42:42 PM #
As of this moment Fry's has 19 left. See ya! BTW, their phone number is (650) 496-6000 if you want to reserve before going to pick up.

RE: Fry's Electronics Palo Alto, 20 m500 in stock
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 5:17:45 PM #
dude- like everyone has the m500...

Palm M505 at Office Depot and Staples

skytraveler @ 4/26/2001 6:11:13 PM #
I have gone into Office Depot and Staples in the Sacramento area and they have both said they expect the M505 to be in stock early May. Office Depot gave me a more exact date of May 4th. Both stores have kiosks where you can sign up for preorder (with a $20 deposit, sometimes not refudable).

From what I've heard and seen on this site, if the shipments of the M505 are anything like the M500, all stores will receive a small quantity by the end of next week. My advice would be to wait until the product shows up in stores in your area. It shouldn't be too hard to get one when they start showing up. They lady at the Staples I went to said I was the first person to ask about the M505.

Good luck to all who are waiting!!! May your stores be filled with M505's.

The SkyTraveler

Anybody have an Inside Track on Office Depot
Telengard @ 4/26/2001 9:21:22 PM #
If anybody knows when Office Depot is expecting a shipment of the m505 please let us know. It seems that since they received the first shipment of m500 maybe they will get the m505 first also.

RE: Palm M505 at Office Depot and Staples
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:20:19 PM #
i dunno about office depot. but the staples in madison (wisconsin) is GARUNTEED to have them in by sunday (in 3 days). go reserve, it's good for ya!

RE: Palm M505 at Office Depot and Staples
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:31:39 PM #
It's a funny thing for someone to guarantee something when they don't control the shipping process.

Staples warehouse

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 7:47:27 PM #
Hi, i just went in and check the status at our central warehouse and they haven't received any of the M505 just yet (SKU# 457059). I'll post it here when the warehouse receives some shipment :)

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 8:03:39 PM #
what area of the country are you checking?
some inside imput would be appreciated, since palm
doesn't care too much about it.

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 8:07:14 PM #
Thanks! That would be awesome!

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:05:32 PM #
the guy below just got his...(m505)
where are you checking?

my local staples . . .
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:23:01 PM #
said they were in transit last night. i didn't check today (i was out of town) but i'm looking tommorrow. these conflicting stories are pretty bad . . .

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:58:50 PM #
I'm in Los Angeles area and we get our shipment from Fontana (central warehouse). The status of that SKU number is active but if the warehouse doesn't have it yet then no staples (on the west coast) would have it.

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:24:30 AM #
Also if any of you are interested, we're starting to get those expansion cards (game cards and 16MB memory cards)in. Office Depot do get them in a couple of days before us though :)

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:16:17 PM #
I bought a memory card at Staples in Los Angeles when ordering the M505 yesterday. They already had them so I thought I'd get one early...



RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 8:07:18 PM #
Hi, went in to check again this morning, still no luck. If you ask me, personally i think it's probably going to be sometime next week. On another topic, did any of you guys check this out http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/palm/sp/0104m500/0204.html
They're saying that even with the side light on, M505 is still the darkest of all three.

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 11:44:49 PM #
Thanks for the link...but that is an (older) review with pre-production m505...the "real" ones have m505 stamped on them in the top right hand corner. You'll notice the one in your pic does not. Just wait and see the real units. Apparently they are a lot better, and one of the reasons that the m505 is being delayed is because of a couple of last minute enhancements that Palm is putting on them to increase the brightness/color.

he's right on the screen
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/28/2001 12:16:45 PM #
I was at a palm seminar in Itasca thursday, and somebody with palm had one there. he let me hold it and check it out, and i was surprised by the screen. with all of these poor reviews, i thought it would suck sh**! But in reality, it was BETTER looking then my IIIc (IIIc on med. brightness, m505 in fair lighting no sidelight). the lines we all know from our IIIc's are very hard to spot, and IT WAS NOT DIM AT ALL!!! I even checked and yes, it had the "m505" label in the corner so it's from final production. Put simply: seeing the screen sealed the deal-I'm buying!

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/28/2001 1:46:57 PM #
I'll go in and check again later today. I'll let you guys know whether or not our warehouse has it. From then i can tell you which store has it and how many. Keep your fingers cross :)

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/1/2001 6:53:48 PM #
For any of you that ever do check these old archive let me give you the good news. I've just went in and check on our computer and apparently our warehouse (Staples) have just received the shipment of M505 (shown 1600 of them) and should begin shipping and arriving in the store at the end of this week. Good luck gentlemen.

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 2:44:18 AM #
The warehouse still holding it. I haven't seen any distribution just yet (maybe they've been to told to wait for certain date?). Anyway, the number of units actually have reduced from 1600 to 1192. We shall see.. :)

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 10:42:05 PM #
They've shipped them out already. San Bernadino has 3, Culver City has 3 and Venice has 3 (these are all Staples). Happy Hunting...

RE: Staples warehouse
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/3/2001 10:49:43 PM #
Culver City has only 2 now. Now folks please remember to ask them to check the SKU#457059 (for the M505). Some of the stores probably have received them already and some will be tomorrow (in the load). Just tell them to hold it for you. :)

My heart is beating....

egarrido @ 4/26/2001 7:43:20 PM #
I'm excited. I confess, I'm rather excited. The time has drawn near that the newest predator of the palm line will come and, by Darwin's influence, replace my old, dated Workpad.

All I know is the sooner Palm has my m505 in my hands, the better. I very much hope, like all people who did order from them, that I'm in the top 40% of people on Palm's list to recieve.

Oh the pain of waiting!

Eric

P.S. I swear I'm not this much of a loser in real life!


Eric

RE: My heart is beating....
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 8:26:14 PM #
LOL :-)

I think Palm made a mistake

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 9:13:57 PM #
I think Palm made a big mistake releasing the 500 a week or so before the 505. I bet many people were excited to here that the 500 was in stores and grabed one to see what the new 500 series was like and will return them when the 505 comes out. I just need to place mine back in the buble bag and throw it back in the box! WHERE ARE THE 505s??????

RE: I think Palm made a mistake
Davy @ 4/26/2001 9:20:01 PM #
Huh? Who would do that? Drop $400 bucks to take the Palm Vx copy for a quick spin, and then hope the retailer would take it back in exchange for a new Palm m505? Buh?
-Davy Fields

RE: I think Palm made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:35:59 PM #
"hope the retailer would take it back" Don't have to hope. Staples has a 14 day return policy...

RE: I think Palm made a mistake
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:06:38 AM #
I did that exact thing. Ran out, bought the M500 on my credit card, played with it for 5 days and then returned it. Did not cost me anything.

Got The 505

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 9:11:54 PM #
Earlier this afternoon I droped by the Staples store where I placed my order. Just thought I'd checkup seeing I was in the neighborhood. Anyway, when I asked the manager asked for my reciept and went in back and brought up the box that had the picture of the 505 on it.

I got it! Apparently Staples is not suppose to release the 505 or make any calls for the people that reserved until May 1st. But if you go in and personally ask they will sell it to you.

Guys, VERY VERY VERY nice! Screen is bettet the IIIc. Not sure about the performance, because I just upgraded my old palm desktop and am charging it as we speak.

Good Luck!
A w Palm 505 Owner

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 9:29:10 PM #

Please give more details about the m505's screen after you've played with it.

Thanks!
-Andrew

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 9:42:34 PM #
Mind telling us the area..

jealous

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 9:49:44 PM #
Which Staples Store?

Also jealous.

Who Do You Believe?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:06:25 PM #
Who do you believe? See the "Staples Warehouse" posting just above. Could be different parts of the country I guess. My local Staples (Utah) doesn't have them yet.

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:07:23 PM #
I take it with a grain of salt...

which salesperson

further jealous

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:08:22 PM #
Your full of it!

RE: Got The 505
JStar @ 4/26/2001 10:18:12 PM #
dude! thanks for the info! went where you told me to go and bought my p505.

thank you jstar

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:24:57 PM #
about the screen: i got one too. the screen is much better than rumored. beats my IIIc (even in dim lights)i'd show pictures, but i don't have a camers, and the flash f**** it up anyway :)

Maybe this weekend.
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:25:54 PM #
Staples in Berkeley, CA said they expect it this weekend...maybe tomorrow (Friday). They said it's in their advertisement for this weekend, "so it better come."

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:26:26 PM #
please please tell us where the store is??

OK...if you really have the palm....
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:27:33 PM #
To those of you who claim to already have it...WHERE do we get it? If you really do have it, you wouldn't mind letting the rest of us know...

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 10:34:58 PM #
Yeah, I got mine, too. The screen is GREAT (according to the picture on the Palm website). It's just a bit bigger than my Vx (according to the articles we've all read). You guys are full of it. If you were the type of person to get a m505 RIGHT when it came out, you'd probably own a digital camera, too....and POST the pictures...

So full of crap...
PFloyd @ 4/26/2001 10:57:50 PM #
I'm sure if they really had 'em they'd be saying where they got 'em.

the staples dude responded (above)
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:05:42 PM #
he's saying non on the west coast -yet.
so where you getting yours?

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:10:06 PM #
OK. These guys may be legit. I called EVERY Staple and Office Depot in my area (I'm in the SF/Bay Area). They are all expecting the m505 any day now (must be in transit) except for the Staples in Pinole. When I called them, the guy knew what I was talking about right away and said he had them in stock. I told him to hold one for me until I got there and he said ok. However, after double-checking to see how many he had (I asked him b/c I was going to buy more than one!), he said, "Sorry, the two I had got sold this afternoon."

RE: HOW CAN I GET IT??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:17:24 PM #
I AM IN New Jersey. ANY news on where it is in the tri-state (NY Metro) area? Wow. Please someone ease this pain.

Fawad

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:26:46 PM #
I was just at Staples in Cambridge Mass today (harvard square) and specifically asked if they had the 505. They did not, only the 500 (so nice...although I couldn't activate the vibrating alarm feature, but i LOVE the new loud speaker). The guy behind the counter didn't know about the pre-order deal, however the manager did. He had to read up on how to do it before having me fill out the form and charging my card.
I apparently was the first person to reserve the m505 from them, so I was told that I'd be getting a call as soon as it came in.
So I'll post as soon as I get this puppy in my hands :)

Funny!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:31:40 PM #
There is one thing that those who claimed that they just got one have in common.

They didn't mention at all, about where they got it.
They just said like "oh! I just got one too. The screen is great. dadada.."

I wondering if they really have it one, why weren't they able to tell us where?

Don't make a lie here.
I don't think these people have. they just try to make a joke and want to laugh at the jealous response.

Their statements are so very general, vague, anyone can say that! "oh. screen is good"

I just got one too by the way!

Got Palm 505 Creator
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:15:07 AM #
Okay...
For all of you thinking that I'm totally lying... I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove myself to you. I have better things to do (like play with my palm 505).

The location is Staples Honolulu, HI.

The screen is better then the IIIc... it is alot softer with warmer colors. You also have the option to brighten or darken the screen. The body is all metal; so I have no clue why people were saying it was plastic. I am thinkin' that there should have been a better flap case... like maybe metal too?

Anyway, I hope this helps.

New Palm Owner

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:29:57 AM #
How do you adjust the brightness on the unit?
Do you have to have the frontlight on all the time in dim light?

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:57:10 AM #
Loser....there is no Staples in Hawaii period. Next time you decide to make something up...go out and do a Store Finder on the Staples site and then put down a valid address....have fun adjusting your brightness control on your nice sweaty palm...cuz that's the only place that u are going to find one.

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:21:53 AM #
That's correct. There are no Staples in Hawaii as far as I know. There are some CompUSA (my friend works there - in Hawaii) and that's about it.

RE: Got The 505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 2:41:55 PM #
The poster is a fool. If he picked it up earlier this afternoon, then he would still be charging his unit for first time use, and WOULD NOT have been able to see the screen.

battery still charging?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:46:00 PM #
thats bogus. the m50x comes with the bare minimum charge to turn it on for about five minutes. sure, to get it FULL he may be charging it, but not to use it. i got an m500 and a Vx yesterday. the VX neede a cherge (30 mins) to turn on, but my m500 turned right on. the argument he is "still charging it" is bogus.

-BOBO

PS: my local staples is expecting them by tuesday now (although I work for a reseller who may have them even sooner and I'd get a discount - $379!)

Checked out a half dozen stores in NYC today

alee @ 4/26/2001 10:48:14 PM #
I spent most of my afternoon going in and out of stores in NYC. This includes CompUSA, Staples,
RCS, Office Depot, Franklin Covey and a few others I can't recall right now. Of all the stores,
only about half of them had the m500 (which is quite nice btw). They all knew about the m505
because everyone has been asking them for the last 2 weeks when they're coming. None of
them know anything beyond "we're getting them in the next two weeks".

This is not to say they won't show up tomorrow, this weekend, or next. Keep your eyes open
for the m505.

-Al

RE: Checked out a half dozen stores in NYC today
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:19:46 PM #
You all need to get a life. When they get here they get here. Don't the people who work at staples and office depot get sick of you poping in and asking them every hour if they got there m505??? GET A LIFE

RE: Checked out a half dozen stores in NYC today
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/26/2001 11:28:21 PM #
dude, it's their job. what else are they gonna do?

RE: Checked out a half dozen stores in NYC today
mikecane @ 4/27/2001 9:24:18 AM #
Hahahahaha!!!

RE: Checked out a half dozen stores in NYC today
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:34:48 AM #
Its like the simpsons. I'm gonna keep asking like Bart asks his dad, "are we there yet?" and Homer responds, "No".

'is it here yet"? >ME
no

"is it here yet"?no"Is it here yet"?
no
"is it here yet"?
no

RE: Checked out a half dozen stores in NYC today
alee @ 4/27/2001 11:18:10 AM #
Ok ok ok... so I had a lot of free time yesterday. :)

Seems like you have to wait for everything these days... the days of
FedEx coming to your rescue are over.

-Al

Memory Expansion Question?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:58:03 AM #
Does anyone know what is the max MMC memory card we can put in the m50X series? I haven't seen anything on the Palm site but the Kingston Technology Memory Finder page lists a max of 64mb for the unit. Of course I would like to push that further.
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/kepler/ModelsInfo_Bod.asp?SysID=+10582+&distributor=0&SUBMIT1=Find

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 2:09:06 AM #
Sandisk has a 32 meg card MMC at Best Buy, I believe for 59.95
morningstar1844@hotmail.com

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 2:12:17 AM #
It also works fine on the M500 (morningstar1844@hotmail.com

lexidrugs and BibleReader are redoing their programs to work correctly with the MMC BibleReader will have a fix in a week or so and Lexidrugs (skyscape) in about 6 weeks but will have more color support in the program than now!

Right now the above two programs and most others that access databases cannot find the databases if they reside on the card!

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 8:27:47 AM #
The SD card is going to be 128 meg, the MMC will only go to 64 meg. For right now 32 or 64 should keep us happy since last week or so we were limited to 8 meg


RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:31:30 AM #
Just bought a 32 mb MMC card from buy.com for the same price as the 16 mb SD card from Palm.

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 10:57:38 AM #
For a great price on a 64 mb MM Card, you may want to check this out. This is where I bought mine:

http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A306657

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:13:06 PM #
That sucks that current software does not run off the card yet. Hopefully they will get their act together quick. Otherwise the usefulness will be severely limited!!!

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:14:28 PM #
Won't the SD cards be faster than the MMC cards? Maybe it will be worthwhile to wait for the faster SD cards...

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:00:16 PM #
here's the shi*bomb deal, check it out. 64mb 75 clams.
very good since palm is selling a puny 16mb for 50.
they are selling them like hot cakes, i ordered mine, and got it next day w/o paying next day. wow.
now if i can find a m505...

http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?c=48&pn=603756&sd=&d=&m=SANDISK+CORPORATION

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:14:42 PM #
From the prices I've seen so far the SD cards are twice as expensive as the MMC's. Any particular benefits? Also I guess I'm confused by one of FAQ answers on Palm's site.

"There are several modes of Multi Media Cards, can I use any of them?

No. Of the three most common modes of Multi Media Cards SPI/MMC only/Proprietary Palm supports only SPI mode cards."

First off I didn't know there were different types. Second does all the above mentioned MMC cards from Scandisk, Lexar etc. have this SPI mode.

SD vs. MMC, capacity
PFloyd @ 4/27/2001 1:43:18 PM #
If we can believe Palm's web site either card will be supported to 64 MB only. http://www.palm.com/products/family.html
SanDisk goes along with this here: http://www.sandisk.com/oem/sd-spec.htm

RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 3:34:37 PM #
For all of you buying the MMC cards, one important note. MMC cards are NOT the same as secure digital cards.
They will work with the Palm, however MMC cards are not nearly as fast.
Check out this comparison
http://davespda.netfirms.com/hardware/expansion/cfmmcsd.htm

MMC cards max out at 2.5 MB per second.
SD cards max out at to 10Mbytes/sec.
Those MMC cards are 4x slower than SD, something you will surely notice when launching applications.



RE: Memory Expansion Question?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 5:32:08 PM #
Current generation SD cards do NOT have a 10Mbytes/sec
transfer rate, they are no faster than an MMC card.
Future cards are planned to have the faster interface,
but they are not availble yet.
Save your money and get an MMC card.


Staples in SF has 20 Palm m505 units.

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:55:00 AM #
There is to be an ad in this weekend's paper, and two will be put on display tomorrow. The rest of the units will be going to those lucky few who reserved early. The store manager, Gordon feels they will be receiving the bulk of their initial order of 100 towards the end of next week. I tried to buy one but he refused, insisting that the 505s were already spoken for.

An ethical manager - how refreshing... In any event, he basically guaranteed that I would have one by next Friday, so I'll wait until then.

RE: Staples in SF has 20 Palm m505 units.
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 10:55:39 AM #
did you actually see the m505 box or did you just take his word for it?

RE: Staples in SF has 20 Palm m505 units.
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 11:19:54 AM #
I saw their lot of 20 and he opened one (today's demo!) for me to check out. It wouldn't power on, so I can't tell what the screen quality is like. I can't get over how tiny it is. (I used to use a Palm III.)

RE: Staples in SF has 20 Palm m505 units.???
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:49:45 PM #
called both SF and SSF staples stores,
no m505 so far, there is no manager named gordon, are you sure of the location???

RE: Staples in SF has 20 Palm m505 units.
@ 4/27/2001 9:26:26 PM #
Gordon is the store manager. I have a feeling that if they didn't put them out today, they must have some kind of gag order from Palm to not release until a certain date. Please don't call the store - if he wouldn't sell one to me yesterday, he sure won't be likely to a) admit he showed them to a customer and b) sell one to you before the preorders are all taken care of.
Relax - you'll probably be able to get one in less than a week.

--
Visit the Internet Only Palm Users Group Home Page
http://www.interpug.com/iopug/

M500 at Staples in Dedham, MA

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:13:19 AM #
Well this isn't BS. I jsut picked up an m500, they had 2, now have one left. I'm suspecting that most of the Staples stores got their first "small" shipment. No idea about the m505 though, I don't really want color. Anyway, I'm sure you can find the m500s around in your area now.

Ryan

RE: M500 at Staples in Dedham, MA
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 10:08:25 AM #
Staples in Fairfield, CT just called and informed me they have 3 M500's in stock. I reserved an M505 and will wait for it. They didn't know when the 505's would be in but are expecting a truck this afternoon.

George

RE: M500 at Staples in Dedham, MA
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 10:26:28 AM #
>I'm sure you can find the m500s around in your area now. ---

They been around for the last week. Thanks anyway!

m500 is nothing special.
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 2:50:40 PM #
fyi - I just went to Staples and played with the m500. Not very imressed. It's a glorified Vx. Basically a Vx with SD Slot and Vibrating/Flashing Alarm. Screen looked the exact same as Vx. I hoped the m505 is much more impressive.

I called Palm Store today and the Rep DEFINITIVELY stated...
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:01:13 PM #
"The retail stores such as Staples will definitely have them (m505's) before we do and you are welcome to cancel your order with the Palm Store if you find them first elsewhere."



Staples said m505 will be ready mid-next week (May 1-3)...
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:05:28 PM #
Palm Store said "end of May".

RE: M500
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:52:34 PM #
I played with an m500 today at Office Depot in Fairfax, VA. I have to say that I was very underimpressed. There were no changes to the core applications that I could see. The screen was slightly better than my Vx, but only slightly. I tried to get a look at the backlight, but I could not get the unit in a dark enough place to tell whether it was the old style or the new style backlight. I sure wanted to be more excited about this unit. No way would I go out and buy the m500, because that would only make all of the peripherals I have bought incompatible. I hope the screen on the m505 is enough to push me beyond where I am now. If not, I'll begrudgingly wait for the Sony. JBH

I played with m500 and did not see "Copy to New" feature in
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 7:15:33 PM #
Address Book. I thought OS 4 was going to have this feature - that you could copy an Address Book entry (except for First/Last Name) so you could enter multiple ppeople from same company. (like Address Plus and Datebk4, etc.) Am I missing something?

RE: M500 at Staples in Dedham, MA
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 1:26:06 PM #
You did miss it. It's called 'Duplicate Item' or something like that. But you are definitely able to copy address entries (checked it in the store).

-CB

RE: M500 at Staples in Dedham, MA
osher @ 5/26/2001 9:16:27 PM #
To any one who has got the 500/505
is the fact that it is double the weight of the Vx
not a draw back ?


os

When avaiable in Eurupe/Germany ?

oseiampadu @ 4/27/2001 11:59:43 AM #
I live in Germany and I can't wait to get a 505. Are there any US-stores having units in stock, who also do international shipping. Palm say the m50x series will be in europe in June, but that' s a lot of time.

SF Staples Denies m505

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 12:52:53 PM #
I just called both SF Staples Stores and they deny they have any m505's. The South SF store said they had just one and someone dropped it and it was damaged and never got it operating.

RE: SF Staples Denies m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:11:46 PM #
word.- i called also, see above...
what's up with that?

RE: SF Staples Denies m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 3:15:04 PM #
Went to Staples in LA and pre-ordered. They say that the shipment is back ordered and have no idea when it is coming in.

You Guys ae Geeks

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:11:49 PM #
Are you guys just sitting around, impatiently waiting for the m505 to come out? I bet when it does come out it sucks and you will return your m505 for the m500. I work for a CompUSA, and I get sick of all of the dorks that come in and ask when the m505 will get here.


RE: You Guys ae Geeks
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:17:28 PM #
who works at compUSA?

RE: You Guys ae Geeks
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:18:00 PM #
Ahhh, those pesky customers. Life will be so much easier once your superior attitude chases them all away and you don't have to bother selling things. Plus that will give you some time to learn something about the products you sell, a first for any CompUSA employee.

RE: You Guys are Geeks
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 2:12:09 PM #
You have the ability to live on $7.50/hour and you call us geeks?

:)

RE: You Guys ae Geeks
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 3:59:44 PM #
I actually just walked into a CompUSA just because I was walking by anyways, and asked a guy WHO JUST TRIED TO SELL ONE TO A SENIOR CITIZEN for the m505. His answer: "What's that?". At least he was polite enough to look something up in his computer to tell me that they haven't had any orders coming in....
So much about CompUSA... lol.



$7.50
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 7:58:09 PM #
Wow! CompUSA pays $7.50/hr? I'm quitting my job at Best Buy tonight! They only pay $6.50 & I still have to deal with those pesty customers! Thanks for the tip!

PALM m500 and m505 AVAILABLE at FUTURESHOP (Canada)!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:13:06 PM #
RE: PALM m500 and m505 AVAILABLE at FUTURESHOP (Canada)!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:15:57 PM #
When you say "available" you mean "available for preorder". Let's just make that clear.

RE: PALM m500 and m505 AVAILABLE at FUTURESHOP (Canada)!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:22:29 PM #
pre-order and a cool $699 at that...

RE: PALM m500 and m505 AVAILABLE at FUTURESHOP (Canada)!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 3:20:27 PM #
I pre-ordered mine from them back on April 3rd. Just got an emaial from them today stating that my m505 is now on backorder status which I found a little confusing so I called them. The customer service rep said that they expect them in by May 1st and should ship them out to the pre-orders the same day.

I'll wait and see.

RE: PALM m500 and m505 AVAILABLE at FUTURESHOP (Canada)!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 6:26:31 PM #
$699. listed for the m505 in Canada is in Canadian Dollars which has considerably less value than US Dollars. I works about to be roughly the same as our $499. here.

M505 at $399.99

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 1:11:13 PM #
This website is selling M505 at $399.99. They did say that "This item is on back order, and could take up to a week to ship."

http://store.yahoo.com/directdigital2001/newpalmm505.html

RE: M505 at $399.99
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 3:25:01 PM #
I tried ordering one, but the site wouldn't allow the transaction to go through. I wonder if there are any other e-tailers offering this same low price.

Is Palm creating hype?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:09:29 PM #
or do they just not have their sh*t together? it reminds me of the PS2 rage.
maybe they just want more customers to jump on the bandwagon?

If pqlm had brains

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 4:52:32 PM #
Staples would hold the 505s for two more weeks so people would stop buying 500s and returning them. In fact, if palm had sense, they'd pay staples to hold the 505s off the market.

Call from Staples Manager!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 5:37:40 PM #
Just had a call from the manager of the Staples I have my name in for a M505 (L.A. area). He said they are in, and I can pick it up in the morning. He didn't say why I coulndn't get to tonight. Will advise if I am successful Saturday AM !

RE: Call from Staples Manager!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 6:21:10 PM #
Umm.. hello! which one??

RE: Call from Staples Manager!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 6:35:04 PM #
Yeah, Orange County by any chance? Which one?!

RE: Call from Staples Manager!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 6:37:35 PM #
The guy that works for the Staples distribution warehouse for the Southern California region above states that as of last night, they did not have any in the warehouse so how in the world could LA (which is in the same region) possibly have any in today?

RE: Call from Staples Manager!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 6:39:42 PM #
Maybe he's afraid that by giving out the location, there might be a run on his ONE ?

RE: Call from Staples Manager!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 6:49:06 PM #
Just talked to Pasadena store. They will start selling 505's on Sunday morning. Chances of that happening I am not willing to bet on, but Ill be there at opening. I dont care if Im the first or 500th person to get it. My morning is free so why not.

RE: Call from Staples Manager!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:23:13 PM #
You guys are suckers...and apparently so am I. I just spoke with manager's from about 10 stores in the SF and Pasadenda area...they are selling the 500's on Sunday and will not get the 505's until...you guessed it! Mid May...

RE: Call from Staples Manager!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:49:10 PM #
Dude...
i called the staples in my area (ventura county) and asked the manager if they have the 505 and/or if they would have them this weekend. the manager swore up and down that the palm 505 is not in yet and that the "sure" date would be may 8th, and then he said to quit calling (j/k about the calling part). so i guess may 8th is our date!

i'm so tired of calling all the stores in a 50 mile radius... i'm tired of all the rumors of "it will be out on sunday for sure," "they're in you can come pick it up tomorrow morning," "i got one in the store up my @ss," "they are expecting them any day now."... just stop the frickin' maddness!

right now i'm just really pissed at palm for causing all this comotion... trying to make their new babies the center of attention.

shoot... i'm buying one. i canceled my order from palm and i've got one on order from staples. and i don't care when i get it... just so i get the 5th one at the staples i reserved my copy at.

i feel so pathetic... holding on to each day like the 505 will be in my hands that day.

REALLY DISGRUNTLED PALM USER!

Radio Ad for M500

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 9:36:42 PM #
Heard during a Minnesota Twins game... Office Depot pushing the 500 with a free 16mb card.

RE: Radio Ad for M500
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/27/2001 10:57:47 PM #
It's true I got a 16meg expansion card with my m500 but you need to ask the store managers abt it the sales staff have no clue

Same offer on TV ad
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/28/2001 12:08:43 AM #
Saw the TV Ad twice. Same offer, 16mb card free with M500.

RE: Radio Ad for M500
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/28/2001 8:17:04 AM #
They had better push the m500's. I was in my local Office Depot yesterday in Austin, TX and they had the same number of m500 tickets they had at the beginning of the week.

RE: Radio Ad for M500
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/28/2001 11:39:48 AM #
Agree, 500s will not be big sellers. The only reason that people are buying them now is because they are too antsy to wait for the 505s. The 505s will fly off the shelves, that is if they ever make it to the shelves.

RE: Radio Ad for M500
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2001 2:31:52 PM #
What do you think of getting an M500 versus PalmVx - I am concerned that the 505's will not be visible enough in sunlight outside - that is an important feature for me. Thoughts?

RE: Radio Ad for M500
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 12:17:40 AM #
By all accounts, the screen on the m505 is of a type that becomes MORE readable in bright light (like direct sunlight), not less -- the concern that most people have is that it won't be as bright as the IIIc/Prism/etc in the lower light levels indoors. Personally, I expect that the m505 will be quite well bright enough indoors; just not quite the glowing artificial sun that the Prism/etc can be at full brightness -- but then, turned up, they're far too bright to use indoors without sunglasses anyway.

Palm direct May 15 on the 505

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/28/2001 11:24:59 PM #
I called palm and they stated my 505 would ship on May 15th. I ordered mine about 4 hours after they posted, I am in the 160's for my order number. I think it is very poor business for Palm not to fulfill loyal customers orders first before shipping retail. I am sure my 2 Staples preorders will come in before the Palm direct order ever does. BTW, Staples and Office Depot have some of the worst trained employees. Two of the Staples I went to didnt even know about the preorder deal. Ohh well, what do you expect for 5 bucks an hour:)



finally

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 9:57:34 AM #
Best buy here in ND had 8 units in stock
RE: finally
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 10:16:45 AM #
Which one, the Fargo or Grand Forks?

Also, would they ship to the east coast? I dont know why the east coast is so slow in getting anything.

Fawad

Shipping of Palm M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 1:11:32 PM #
CompUSA online says that the M505 will be shipped on Monday, May 21st. Amazon.com says it expects to ship middle of May.

Hope this helps!

- David G.

Palm M505 Shipping Date

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 2:08:58 PM #
Thought I would let you know that Amazon.com says on it's website that they will begin shipping the 505's in the middle of May. Also, CompUSA.com says that it will begin shipping the 505's on May 21st. Hope this helps.

ALSO, go to http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecsplash/shop/detail.asp?dpno=958013

E-cost.com is listing the 505 at $449.00, but when you put it in the shopping cart, it instantly gives you a discount and it ends up being $399.00. Only drawbacks...they charge a $11.95 handling fee and $7.80 for shipping because it is a penny under the $400 free shipping cutoff. But, if you order something else with it, you get free shipping. They still charge the handling fee, though.

BEFORE YOU ORDER, call them and get their return/exchange policy...I tried to figure it out but had no luck. I placed my order with them, but there are some online merchants that may match this $399 price for the 505, so check around.

GOOD LUCK IN GETTING THE 505....I HAVE MY ORDER IN!!! :-) David

$399.00 for the M505!!!!!!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 2:21:13 PM #
This is the best price I have found so far...The total for the 505 from e-cost.com is $419.00 with all shipping and handling fees...no sales tax! GREAT PRICE! Let me know if anyone else orders from them!

Ecost.com update
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2001 2:40:02 PM #
Wanted to let you all know:

First, ecost.com really doesn't have much of a return policy...if you are sure that you want it, they offer the best price. If it is defective, they will exchange it.

Second, their first ship date is May 16th and their second ship date is May 21st. They said that if you oder now, you will probably be on the second ship date.

My advice is to call them first and talk to a person and make sure that you want to actually place the order first.

RE: Palm M505 Shipping Date
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/1/2001 1:41:09 AM #
FYI:
You can print out the e-cost page and take it with you to Staples when they get their 505s. They have a policy of matching prices with internet stores.

Mike

Say it isn't so ...

Wayne Majors @ 5/1/2001 8:53:16 AM #
After reading here about the MMC deal at Buy.com, I called Palm today (4/27) and cancelled my order for their 16m card. I asked them when they planned to ship the m505 and they said "mid-May".
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