Comments on: Sales of Handhelds Worldwide Slip

There were 2.8 million PDAs of all types shipped worldwide during the second quarter of this year, which is down 21% from the previous quarter, according to a survey by Gartner Dataquest. Palm continued to hold the lead in both the United States and the entire world.

Shipments of Palm handhelds made of 32% of the worldwide market. However, there was a significant drop from the previous quarter, down from 50%. Compaq was number two with 16%, rising from 8%. Handspring dropped to 11% from 16%.

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Begun to suggest?

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/6/2001 10:27:11 AM #
>Recently, many have begun to suggest that Gartner has
>a pro-Microsoft slant. Please keep this in mind when >reading this article. -Ed

Recently? Gartner has been banging Microsoft's gong for years. They've been shoving distorted Windows vs. Mac statistics for a long time, as one example. Why should it be any different on the handheld side?

RE: Begun to suggest?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/6/2001 6:58:13 PM #
Gartner's chief handheld and gizmo guy is a complete Microsoft zealot. I met him once at a conference and I couldn't believe that someone from a supposedly "impartial" company could be so biased. He was carrying around his dorky iPaq and spouting it's merits to all and sundry. Ever since then I have had zero respect for anything Gartner have to say about hanhelds.


Ed..

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/6/2001 11:43:18 AM #
..is that really you posting on PalmStation? I mean, it really looks like they plagiarised your story on PDAlive, but is that your comment on PS?



RE: Ed..
Ed @ 8/6/2001 12:06:50 PM #
Yes. That article was plagiarized by PDAlive. There is a discussion thread about it here:
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2189&MODE=FLAT

I've asked Hal to take it off or change the link but I haven't had any response yet.

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RE: Ed..
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/6/2001 12:19:20 PM #
Not only that, there is now another article there that looks very very similar to this particular article. It was also posted by that same guy. http://www.pdalive.com/article.php?sid=40&mode=thread&order=0

Palm Had the Seven Top Sellers

Ed @ 8/6/2001 3:36:25 PM #
Here's a quote from Cnet:
    "Even though Palm released the m505 right at the end of the second quarter, (the product) was still the No. 4" seller at retail for the quarter, [NPD analyst Stephen] Baker said. In fact, he added, Palm had "the seven top sellers" during the second quarter.

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-202-6792981.html

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No credibility

altema @ 8/6/2001 9:50:42 PM #
I only skipped through this report to get to the interesting comments below, as virtually every poster here has more credibility than the Gartner group reports, even trolls. Excuse me for not being polite, but what company would survey customers who have not even had a chance to get comfortable with their devices, then create a report that says most Palm owners don't use 3rd party software? Some companies slant reports to the extreme, some take the information manipulation so far that it borders on dishonesty.

Take a look at their past practice: If the Microsoft glass is at half, they will say that it's almost to the top (if you put it in a long stem wine glass and measure the height of the glass), then they will add a cube of ice and a little umbrella, and declare they are taking over the world. If the Palm OS glass is at half, they will report that it's almost empty, the glass is dirty, and then spit in it.

Compaq, H-P Have Inventory Glut

I Have No Name @ 8/6/2001 11:57:26 PM #
A Pacific Press Securities research analyst, in comments on these numbers, said, "While Palm has significantly reduced the amount of channel inventory that's out there, Compaq has significantly increased theirs." He went on to say, "Compaq and HP and starting to struggle with inventory issues of their own."

http://biz.yahoo.com/oo/010806/62612.html

RE: Compaq, H-P Have Inventory Glut
Cheetah @ 8/7/2001 12:40:12 AM #
Although Palm has had their financial problems, I bet the PPC camp players are having twice the financial problems for their PDA businesses. The only difference is HP, Compaq and M$ don't have to disclose their revenues and profits for their PDA business, while Palm and Handspring do (because it's their only business).

Palm can only afford a couple mis-steps (like too much inventory, etc.), while M$ can dump gazillions of dollars into PPC and hardly blink.

Look at Netscape. M$ GAVE their browser away for free. How could Netscape compete with that???

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