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As discussed earlier, it will have an SD expansion slot and use Palm's Universal Connector. The m125 will cost $250 and should be available near August 24.
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RE: Still not price competitive
RE: Still not price competitive
Btw, at PCexpo, I asked ALL the sony reps if they had any memorystick non memory modules in development, and they all said they aren't aware of any. Sounds like memorystick will just end up on the shelf of different flash memory.
OH my god...becky, look at her....Prism.
RE: Still not price competitive
Expansion Card I/O
Sony absolutely will not discuss unannounced products, at least not with the likes of me. All I can get from the Sony rep was that they are on track to release some MemStick peripherals this year and some next year.
Palm has been showing off that group of SD prototypes for many moons. They are waiting for the SD Assoc. to approve the SDIO standard and then they will begin to appear. The Bluetooth one will almost certainly be first.
In the expansion card I/O peripheral race, I'd say both companies are neck and neck.
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RE: Still not price competitive
-Pepper
BTW: don't take "anything" in the literal sense, please
I love my Palm . . . do you?
RE: Still not price competitive
Speaking of MemorySticks...
prc/pdb files to the memory stick and then move them to my Clie. Of course it can also act as a high capacity drive to trasfer off an to the memorystick. It costs $90 and can work with the Mac. I know it's
more expensive than getting a Travel Kit but if you are into getting a new optical mouse, i think with the memorystick reader, it's a good bundle. It's made by Sony so I would assume that it could read future higher capacity memorysticks (some Mac users have reported that they can't read 128MB memorysticks on a generic reader).
Here's the link: http://makeashorterlink.com/index.php?S22415A0
Regards.
Reggie
PS: If a few more of my office co-workers would get the same mouse, then we can replace floppies and use memorysticks to share large files. :)
RE: Still not price competitive
RE: Still not price competitive
RE: Still not price competitive
RE: Still not price competitive
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1993
Article with picture of Bluetooth MemStick card:
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1781
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RE: Still not price competitive
RE: More Peripherals
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1778
Here's the article that talks about the non-working mock-ups of planned SD devices:
view_Story.asp?ID=1541&MODE=FLAT
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RE: Still not price competitive
RE: Still not price competitive
Sony is a VERY large corporation composed of independent companies and divisions; if you ask a random group of Sony representatives about products that they are not directly involved with, they probably don't know any more about it than you do.
RE: Still not price competitive
BUT, the COOLEST module that they had been working on in one of their R/D divisions that they (Sony rep) was showing off on the floor was the "Thumb-Print Scanner" MS module!
Yes, you read correctly - Sony was displaying a working prototype of a "Thumb-Print Scanner" MS module. The use of this MS modules course would be for security purposes - IE you couln't use the Sony Clie without it first recognizing your thumb-print. Other uses could involve securing documents, private records, etc.
What amazed me was that this MS module was a working! Sony reps had to modify the CLIE that they were using in order for it to accept the module, but it was exactly the same lenght and width as a standard MS module. The only thing I wasn't too thrilled about was that they now had a copy of my thumb-print - who knows what they might use that for! :) Conspiracy Theories abound!
On a last note, the Sony rep also showed me and other Industry reps about how Sony was working on a SMALLER MS module - 1/2 the lenght of the current MS modules - basically an MMC/SD module - that was/is to be there FUTURE MS module sizes. They even had an adapter created so one could use these new MS modules in the older style (read current style) MS module compatable CLIE and Sony laptops.
All in all, I was pretty impressed with what Sony was displaying and working on, and had working for the show (Comdex). I stopped by the Palm area, but all they had were the standard MMC/SD modules we've seen here on PIC - the GPS, Digital Camera, Electronic Screwdriver SD modules, etx... :{ - NO working modules to play with - what a bummer!
But the best thing about ALL of this is that ALL these things are being developed on the PALM OS platform. Gosh everyone, Be Happy!
Peace - Dave Adonius
RE: Fingerprint module
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1778
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RE: Still not price competitive
we might see cheaper msticks with competitive prices. (even with the new sony pricecuts..)
here in the UK its still like 2squid for a 1mb... so 648mb stick cost about 120squid...
(i just need to finish hacking Mstick support for Frotz mmmm and add mstick support to Sarien... mmm kingsquest 4 agi on memory stick on a palm! yay!)
-df
RE: Still not price competitive
The "half-sized" Memory Stick is called the Memory Stick DUO. It will probably replace current MSs in the years to come, so SD will lose one of its main features: smaller form factor. It is difficult to imagine storage getting smaller than MMC/SD/DUO size. Too easy to lose!
Lead Weights
Palm needs to reduce the price of the m500. Perhaps they were expecting a repeat of the days when a mono unit could generate juge hype and profit for them, but those days are over, as Handspring found out. Drop the price to $300, and take the lead weights out of the m125.
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RE: Lead Weights
RE: Lead Weights
"If you really want to, you can practice Esperanto, but in the land of pronto, the wind it tastes like gasoline." - Frank Black, Llano del Rio.
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RE: Lead Weights
Your attempt in humor and valid argument is quite pathetic...
As newer palms come out and as they all include a colored screen, universal connector and expansion capabilities the only main difference is form. It should be quite interesting how the m125 will look like. I doubt it will be the skywalker prototype although many indications point to that.
One aspect of the m125 which is discouraging is the fact that it broke the 6 oz barrier. The last time Palm came out with a unit over 6 oz was the IIIc. On the palm timeline that was eons ago. I know we are just talking about ounces but these things are suppose to get lighter not heavier...
RE: Lead Weights
Where's the Datasheet w/ Pictures?
It's not a rumor folks
RE: It's not a rumor folks
RE: It's not a rumor folks
www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/20965.html
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RE: It's not a rumor folks
More of the same.
aren't they all the same? why can't we have something radically different and exciting? Ok, the price is great, but for ...helllooooo....we want more memory? you know, bigger app, music and stuff?
Attention Kmart buyer
(Is it me or this product is geared toward non gear head to push SD card? Does anybody care? This model is going directly to Walmart discount bin along with disposable calculators)
Blooth and GPRS support in Palm?
Thanks.
John.
RE: Blooth and GPRS support in Palm?
RE: Blooth and GPRS support in Palm?
In addition youŽll only need a mobile phone supporting HSCSD or GPRS like the Nokia 6210, 6310, Ericsson T39, RM 520, Siemens S40, S42, S45 and some Motorola phones.
This means you will have wireless connection speeds up to 28.8 kbit/s and more, depending on the network operator.
it's not a great value
RE: it's not a great value
RE: it's not a great value
RE: it's not a great value
RE: it's not a great value
I think Sony will be forced to......
Look at what is happening here!!! It used to be that Palm came up with a new model and priced it very high and then other companies introduced a better model and priced it equally or lower, then Palm was forced to cut the price in order to compete. Now the situation is going crazier, Sony has a model (probably equivalent) and Palm is introducing a new model which is not (potentially) better but price 25% higher........
What da heck, Palm can cut the price anytime, just those beta testers wasting money!!!
RE: I think Sony will be forced to......
The first possibility ifnot likely as no market will want to pay more. Second is not likely too as I do not believe Palm will or can force Sony to raise (or lower) their pricing. Remember Sony is not a subsidiary of Palm and it is a giant.
Back to m125, I really do not understand why Palm want to price it at more than $200 (if the rumour is true), it will be another mistake. I think Sony S320 is better - 4M ROM, smaller, lighter and it is cheaper. Of cause, it is still a rumour.
RE: I think Sony will be forced to......
"IMO I think Sony S320 is more competitive - 4M ROM, smaller, lighter and it is cheaper."
Better may sound offensive to some people.
RE: I think Sony will be forced to......
I was just sarcastic, don't you guys have any sense of humor?
It is beyond my intelligence that why Palm dare price the new model 25% higher than a better model (Sony S320) which has been on the shelf.
If Palm really prices m125 at $250, Sony can just raise the price of S320 to $250-$290.
RE: I think Sony will be forced to......
RE: I think Sony will be forced to......
AriB
RE: I think Sony will be forced to......
And this new m125 runs off of AAAs? The Clie is rechargeable, which is a reason to get the Clie already!
RE: I think Sony will be forced to......
Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
2. I agree with the previous poster: There was a lot of critisism of how badly Palm failed with the introduction of the m500 series. And it seems that everyone agrees that the leaked info was one of the reason for this. Okay, they have leaks, but is it necessary to make it worse by making this info publicly available? Steven-O couldn't keep his mouth shut, but PIC could excersise good judgement.
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
But I believe if the specs are correct, it only goes to show Palm is not tuned to what the market wants. SD expansion for low end devices is not gonna sell Palms. SD cards only drive up the cost of the unit. Furthermore the Cards aren't user-friendly. To get the most out of them you have to install Powerrun/McFile or other utility, which most novice users are not familiar with. Maybe they should just include 16MB RAM (Flash RAMs are a lot cheaper now).
The perfect Palm
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
-Pepper
I love my Palm . . . do you?
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
this won't do any harm
In any case, if leaks cause people to wait for a new product that only means one thing: they current product is overpriced for the functionality it offers. But we already know that anyway...
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
If I were Plenipotentiary, I would want to foster an atmosphere of mutual good will with Palm, Inc. You're not going to see a Ziff Davis publication scour the web and publish examples of how to bypass the activation routines in the XP family of Microsoft products.
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
RE: Go ahead - Make Palm's Day
With regard to the leaks of the m50x series. I saw the leaks, I put a picture of the m505 on my desktop in Feb.(?) and when they came out in May I bought the first one Best Buy received. I took it back two days later because of the screen (not just brightness, but the reflectivity problems with gray and yellow clouds over any white background). I bought a Prism after that.
Palm's problems are are the result of their own tunnel vision.
Geared toward ...
Man whats-up with Palm? No new
products, just rehash!
RE: Geared toward ...
RE: And Sony Too
RE: Geared toward ...
RE: Geared toward ...
RE: Geared toward ...
The big thing that's new is the much lower price. The Clie 300 retailed at more than $300. The 320 also has a faster processor. It's a common strategy for companies to innovate with new features at the high-end and move them down to lower-end products over time. I view the 320 as a fairly aggressive move on Sony's part taking it's price into consideration.
Does anyone even care anymore?
Who cares! Palm going to go under at this rate. They've lost it.
Good For What It Does
If your on this site, you already have a high-end model or are going to buy one. If your excited about the m125, your slumming.
I'm not excited about it either. It doesn't compare well at all to my m505 but its going to be $200 cheaper and that will make a lot of people like it. Just not you or me.
i care
RE: Does anyone even care anymore?
This is extremely stupid.
-Color
-Light
-Good Battery Life
-USB
-Expandable
-Support for SD Devices
-Rugged
-Stylish
WTF are you all complaining about? Honest to god I swear you could give some people a new BMW for free and thay'd bitch about the color of the buttons on the radio.
RE: This is extremely stupid.
I think that if the "m125" was rechargeable then it wouldn't be half bad, since sometimes I get the diehard Palm customers that would pay an extra $50 for the name. (I work @ Office Depot) But paying another $50 for expansion and a universal connector....get the Sony and save $50.
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Still not price competitive