Comments on: OS 4.1 Coming November 15
According to a Palm spokesperson, the upgrade to OS 4.1 will be free to current users of Palm OS 4.0 though Palm hasn't officially announced this.
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RE: USB hotsync fix should come first
Which means.. if they don't have serial ports, their stuck with a non-USB working hotsync AND a buggy OS.
Looks like Palm is trying to keep up with crappy Sony support.
USB Bluetooth Adapters
Mini Bluetooth USB Dongle B091H1 UNIWILL Computer CORP. Computer accessory PROD 2001-10-24
OneChip™ Bluetooth USB/Serial Port TR0760 Transilica, Inc. Components Comp-HW-Integrated 2001-10-20
more products will follow, check Bluetooth Qualified Product List
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/Templa...ch_SpecVersion=
3Com'S Wireless Bluetooth USB Adapter Enables Simple Connectivity for Personal Computing Devices
Company's Bluetooth Solutions Interoperate With HP's Bluetooth Printer
http://www.everythingusb.com/news/index/464.htm
Xircom Bluetooth USB Adapter
http://www.xircom.com/d-docs/pdf/datasheetsinpdf/R2BT%20data%20sheet201.pdf
Brianboxes USB Bluetooth™ Adaptor
http://www.brainboxes.com/index.html?products/bluetooth/bl-554.html~mainFrame
TDK Bluetooth USB Adapter
http://www.cellular.co.za/technologies/bluetooth/bluetooth_tdk_products.html
Where to buy?
http://www.blueunplugged.com
http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=BLUETOOTH
Palm debuts with Bluetooth SDK
http://makeashorterlink.com/?E1154222
Why wireless Bluetooth could become a cable killer
David Coursey,
Executive Editor, AnchorDesk
Wednesday, November 7, 2001
RE: Palm debuts with Bluetooth SDK
I appreciate you pointing out this information but please don't post the entire text of copyrighted articles. Doing so just forces me to spend time deleting them so we aren't violating their copyright. Links are fine though I would appreciate it if you'd use MakeAShorterLink.com to reduce the size of the very long ones.
Thanks again.
p.s. We covered the Bluetooth SDK a few weeks ago:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2392
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RE: Palm debuts with Bluetooth SDK
a wee bit dear.
Palm Upgrades used to be free !
It encouraged all user to be up to date and current..
Now developers have to create several different flavours for various OSs. Which is a real pain...
what are you MS ! Money grab much !
Ian.
You Get What You Pay For
RE: At least you don't have a clie
RE: a wee bit dear.
So what's your grief? Here's a simple solution to all you clie users who don't want to shell out $50 for an upgrade: Don't. your childish and tiresome rants about the cost and the turn-around time has run its course. if you're that dissatisfied with the 710, then return it.
palm/clie
New group formed for everyone unhappy with Sony
- think Sony should have provided you with a free OS upgrade?
- think Sony's Memory Stick is an evil, proprietary standard plotting to take over the world?
- think Sony "deserves" to have it's OS pirated for not releasing an upgrade fast enough for you?
- think it's not fair that Sony released the N760C so soon after the N710C?
- not care that most people here have grown weary of the petty complaints and transparent attempts to rationalize stealing software?
Please post your messages here instead:
RE: New group formed for everyone unhappy with Sony
Thank you for taking the time to set up a forum for these crybabies to vent their moronic and juvenile tirades.
Now maybe the rest of us can scroll through and read some more intelligent and pertinent posts.
RE: New group formed for everyone unhappy with Sony
Boo hoo hoo - Sony won't give me a free update!
Boo hoo hoo - Sony keeps putting out better handhelds!
Boo hoo hoo - Blah, blah, blah...
RE: New group formed for everyone unhappy with Sony
RE: a wee bit dear.
And you know this from inside information? There's a fine, yet distinct, line between market leader and monopoly, and your blatant misuse of the latter word proves that you don't understand where that line is. Memory stick is proprietary, but guess what...so is the Palm OS, and I don't see you mention that anywhere. Instead, I'll bet you throw around "palm is the market leader" every chance you get.
"A large number of people are clearly unhappy with Sony's OS upgrade plans/policy."
Here are two simple solutions: don't buy it and live with OS 3.5 or buy it and shut the hell up!
"Your apparent love of Sony does not suddenly make those important issues "petty", "juvenile" or "moronic" to the rest of the world."
No, it's your apparent hatred of Sony (and the mind-numbing frequency at which you bitch about this topic)that makes important issues "petty," "juvenile" AND "moronic."
"people who are unhappy with Sony's plans/policies are not "cry babies"."
Are you now their champion? If so, you present weak arguments to an already weak stance. Go and consult with these "people" and tell them that you failed.
"Since you've apparently chosen to be supporters of the electronics industry equivalent to Microsoft,"
Once again you throw around that comparison to Microsoft as if you have some inside information without delivering any proof. And for your information, I must be the only one who does not have ANY Sony products. My current PDA of choice is the m500. I'm just sick and tired of you Sony whiners take this forum as an opportunity to validate your otherwise meaningless existence.
"you are going to have to learn how to live with the fact that many people don't like them."
That may be true, but you are going to have to learn that the only recourse against a company one does not like is to NOT BUY THEIR PRODUCTS!!! Let your wallet do the talking because your brain is obviously holding a negative balance.
RE: a wee bit dear.
A Palm owner complains about the $40 charge and a couple of Sony owner say at least it isn't the $50 send in your unit thing they have to deal with. Then the fanatics jump in and turn that into some kind of incident. If some Sony owners are not happy with with Sony's upgrade policy, they have every right to complain and not have to put up with being called names or made fun of.
RE: a wee bit dear.
Upgrade for m500/505 users not needed...
The rep told me that for the m505, the upgrade is not needed. It is mainly for users before OS 4.0 that wants to upgrade to 4.x...
Just wanted m50x users to know...
IIIc and 16-bit color
RE: IIIc and 16-bit color
RE: IIIc and 16-bit color
Ahhhrrgghh!!!
Looks like I effectivly trashed my Palm Vx! AAAGGGRRRHHH!!!
I guess it's time to come up with some lame excuse and check with my boss and see if I can get a replacement.
RE: Ahhhrrgghh!!!
No guarantees, though.
K. Tran
RE: Ahhhrrgghh!!!
RE: Ahhhrrgghh!!!
One last thought: you could always download and try the OS3.3 upgrade, if all else fails. . .
K. Tran
RE: Ahhhrrgghh!!!
No e-mail...
RE: No e-mail...
RE: No e-mail...
Unless my contact at Palm is way off base, you are incorrect. m505 owners will be given the upgrade for free. That's why these people aren't being given the opportunity to buy it.
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RE: No e-mail...
No problem though. Since I get PalmInfocenter on my Palm via Avantgo, I don't miss a thing.
Any compelling reason why I should want this upgrade?
Palm VIIx users out of luck. ROM is full.
CNET Is an Idiot :)
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-7810930.html?tag=mn_hd
""""For people running OS version 4.0, the new OS will mostly fix a number of minor bugs. The software will be most useful to those running a 3.x or older operating system. The upgrade will add security features, improve management of alarms, add support for 64-bit color and improve data entry."""
yeah... 64 bit color...rrright....
RE: CNET Is an Idiot :)
RE: CNET Is an Idiot :)
RE: CNET Is an Idiot :)
Clarification
So, we have:
2-bit colour: raise 2 to the power of 2 (2 squared) = 4 colours (or grey shades, etc. . .)
4-bit colour: raise 2 to the power of 4 = 16 colours (or grey shades)
8-bit colour: raise 2 to the power of 8 = 256 colours
16-bit colour: raise 2 to the power of 16 = 65,536 colours
24-bit colour: raise 2 to the 24 = 16.78 million colours
Past 16.78 x 10^6 colours, the eye and brain have a really hard time seeing any finer gradations. But it doesn't hurt to have a finer colour resolution (bits per pixel) for more accurate colour representation.
I hope this helps. If any of this was too elementary, I didn't mean to insult anyone.
rgds,
K. Tran
RE: CNET Is an Idiot :)
RE: CNET Is an Idiot :)
I guess this is much in the same way that some people say that they can hear the difference between sound encoded at 44.1 kHz and 48 Khz (CD vs. DAT).
K. Tran
RE: CNET Is an Idiot :)
You will clearly note different gray bands, which shouldn't be there if we had enough colors!
Steve56
Prism
RE: Prism
The Prism can already display 65,000 colours, though.
Free shipping?
Matt
RE: Free shipping?
putting a palm 3c into debug mode
RE: putting a palm 3c into debug mode
RE: putting a palm 3c into debug mode
Useless for us in the Asia-Pacific
I've really brooked enough crap from Palm. In the year that I've had my Palm IIIxe, I've had it replaced twice, and today I rang tech support in order to get my dodgy cradle replaced.
The least they could do is make the upgrade available to us Australians.
(You can only buy the upgrade if you're in the US, Canada or Europe)
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OS 4.1 does not USB synch with Mac OS
I experienced this problem myself and have read about it in other places as well, like Palm Infocenter's the Sony Clie PEG-n760c review:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2376
Near the bottom it says:
> Macintosh
> Update: originally said that the N760C
> didn't have problems HotSyncing with a Mac
> as long as the latest version of the Palm
> Desktop was used. I tested this via infrared
> on my PowerBook. Unfortunately, several
> people have written in to point out that
> infrared is the only way that this will work.
> Some USB incompatibility has cropped up with
> Palm OS 4.1 that didn't appear with OS 4.0.
I get the following error message when I try to do a USB hotsync using MacOS 9.0.4 with Palm Desktop 2.6.3:
> Software needed for the USB device "Palm Handheld"
> is not available. Would you like to look for the
> Software on the internet?
Clicking OK returns:
> Looking for drivers
> Software for this device has not been found.
> Please contact the manufacturer of the device
> for the latest version of the needed software.
RE: OS 4.1 does not USB synch with Mac OS
For example, Sony's version of OS 3.5 won't work with the Palm Desktop on a Mac either. But Handspring's version works fine. I'm just trying to say, don't draw too many conclusions from Sony's version of OS 4.1.
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USB hotsync fix should come first
Honestly, I don't have a problem (yet), but I do fear for my m505 after reading so many horror stories about suddenly not being able to hotsync via USB. What about those that DO have problems and those that may in the future?
So the people that do have the USB hotsync problem on their m505 will not be getting a "free" upgrade if they have to go out and buy a serial connector. (That's if their desktop/laptop even have legacy serial ports.)