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Earlier this year, Palm cut about 500 employees and contractors, reducing the company to approximately 1,300.
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RE: it is true
Wonder if they are going to pull a Gateway
Just from talking with everyone at Palm they don't have the people to get anything done anymore. Looks like they fired all the worker bees and none of the manangers.. Someone told me more than 50% of the projects have been either canceled or so severely limited in staff that nothing is going forward.
Someone said, they may pull another "Gateway" and pull outof all international markets. That saves some cash in the short term but, you can forget about ever going back into those markets in the future.... Just a thought...
cesspool of nepotism
Palm has 18 Vice Presidents who evidently can't get anything done. Most of these people are FAILED Apple employees who were fired at Apple. Of course, you also have a few losers from 3Com who are also helping steer the ship into oblivion. Palm has become a cesspool of nepotism for incompetent yet arrogant Apple-rejects. It's such a shame that these guys are in charge and are killing Palm. First and foremost, I blame Benhamou. As long as this guy is Chairman of the Board, Palm is destined for failure. He should stick to trying to repair 3COM - a company he also ruined. This guy makes bad decisions and he picks bad executives. Shareholders pay the price for his incompetence.
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On the Firing Line : My 500 Days at Apple
by Gil Amelio, William L. Simon
RE: it is true
Amen!
RE: Great book for Apple Fans:
RE: it is true
Hmmm... has Palm done a deal with someone else to do their work for them? The mind will wonder.
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Actually, another company actually makes organizers for Palm; Palm just does the design work. This was cited as one of their strategic weaknesses in their annual report (since they have little control over production schedules, build quality, etc.).
FIRE EVERYBODY BUT ONE GUY!
Ladies and gentlemen, we're not here to indulge in fantasy but in political and economic reality. Today, management has no stake in the company! All together, all these VP's own less than 3 percent of the company. And where did Mr. Yankowski put his million dollar salary/nonus? Not in PALM stock - he owned less than 1 percent! YOU own the company. That's right, you the stockholders, and you are all being royally screwed over by these, these BUREAUCRATS with their, their steak luncheons, their hunting and fishing trips, their, their corporate jets and golden parachutes! PALM has 33 different vice presidents, EACH earning over 500 thousand dollars a year. Now, I have spent the last two months analyzing what all these guys do and I still can't figure it out! One thing I do know is that this company lost over 200 million dollars last quarter and I'll bet that half of that was spent in all the paperwork going back and forth between all these vice presidents!!! The new law of evolution in corporate America seems to be Survival of the Unfittest. Well, in my book, you either do it right or you get eliminated.
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playoffs?
RE: playoffs?
In your attempts to be humorous you ended up look like an imbecile.
Its unfortunate that there is no way to filter half-wits from these boards. As great as this site is, it's not what it use to be.
Its the price you have to pay to be the best PALM site on the WWW. Kudos to Ed for making such a great site.
Thier, their... Its ok that he new.
Another Evil legacy of Yankerkowski
These idiot "managers" who defiled Palm must pay for their crimes against shareholders, customers, and employees. The management team should be taken out and beaten to death. Better yet, we should send them via parachute to Kandahar in Afghanistan where they can meet some real justice.
RE: Another Evil legacy of Yankerkowski
Dude.. get a grip. Not everyone makes the best decisions all the time. It does not mean they are bad people. You need to tone down the rhetoric some. I know there are some excellent managers within the Palm organization...
A Palm in hand is worth two in your pocket.
RE: Another Evil legacy of Yankerkowski
1) Stock prices
2) Job cuts
3) 6 months behind on innovation and nothing eye popping in the pipeline. This is sure death in the tech sector.
Look what Sony has done in the past 5 months compared to Palm. He sucked as Palms CEO
RE: Another Evil legacy of Yankerkowski
This guy is obsessed with Yankowski
Get a life, buddy. Neither Yankowski nor anyone else gives a rat's you-know-what about what you think about Yankowski.
RE: Another Evil legacy of Yankerkowski
Well, idiot, if you're posting on the behalf of Yankowski you need to get a stop bending over for THE MAN. What the heck is Yankowski paying you? FUDGE PACKIN' COOKIES or something?
Get outa here.
Palm Layoffs Coming
Just wondering......
It would make sense to release all duplicate positions in both companies prior to the announcement especially given the huge number of possible redundancies we hear (~400).
The clincher might come if Handspring announces some layoffs too.
RE: Just wondering......
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When you find yourself in the company of a halfling and an ill-tempered Dragon, remember, you do not have to outrun the Dragon...you just have to outrun the halfling.
RE: Just wondering......
1) Jeff Hawkings as their CEO
2) The HandSpring Treo which can be their platform for a wireless communicator. Palm is behind in launching their wireless products and I think they can gain by taking what HandSpring has already created and building upon it.
If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
If the upcoming Sony T600c, which is a tiny bit smaller than the m505 and is supposed to have a brighter color screen than the Sony N760, comes to the U.S. before Palm's upcoming m525, I'll be switching to Sony.
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/palm/0111/19/f_bangai2.html
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/palm/0111/19/n_tcli.html
couple of comparison photos among T600, N750, and m505. See for yourself.
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2157&FORUM_ID=8&CAT_ID=2
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
I dread sending it in because Palm will probably put a complete screen in the thing, rather than replacing the glass top, and our example of "See, they're not all dim, look at this one" will be but a memory.
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
RE: If only the m505 had a brighter backlight!!!
If brightness is your only criteria, then go with the IIIc or an iPaq. The iPaq has the "super bright" mode, and the IIIc gets so bright that you can't stand to look directly at the screen. Both outshine anything made by Sony as far as screen brightness. However, if you had all three on a shelf, I'd grab the Sony because I like the device (and you can't expand the IIIc). In the real world, brightness is only useful to a certain extent... beyond that point, it's only glare.
Confusion?
m515
1. New Clie Color Screen
2. 16MB RAM
3. OS 4.1
This should buy them a little more time before OS5/ARM. It shoud be pretty easy, Sony already has the screen (they just need to squeeze it into the m5xx form factor), 16MB is already being done - just drop it in! And OS 4.1 already exists. Should be a no-brainer! What do you think?
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I think Palm needs to add the following on top of your suggestions. Then they will have a winner that can go head to head with the Cli? and other models.
_Jog dial & back button (almost everyone else does.)
_Enhanced speaker & microphone (should be standard on all handhelds)
_Virtual graffiti (possibly the greatest inovation of the Palm OS directly in recent time)
Keep in mind, all of these things already exist, its just a matter of them integrating some well needed functionality.
If Palm made a model with all these features, I would gladly buy it. Until then though The Handera is the most useful for me.
Zap 2016 slow down
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David Oakley - david@astraware.com
CTO, Astraware Ltd
http://www.astraware.com/
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RE: Thanksgiving
Need to be done
1.Virtual Graffiti - I really don't see this to be a big deal, but everyone else does, so make people happy
2. Dual Expansion - The Handera is a great example, lets hope for a Visor with Springboard/SD/MMC slot. I'd also like too see Springboard 2, a more powerful one that would alow CF adapters to use the microdrive or whatever. A true CF to Springboard adapter would be amazing.
3. A Jog dial - I WANT A DAMN JOG DIAL. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PDA COMPANYS!?!
4. Ipaq es que screen - gba screen=BAD
5. A good speaker - I want to be able to use my pda as an alarm clock. And what would be REALLY great, a headphone jack.
6. Face plates - blah blah blah, face plates are a good idea. Nokia didn't sell those little crappy phones without attracting somehting very important...style. Style is important.
7. Game compatible buttons - When I say game compatible buttons, I mean NOT CLIE BUTTONS. Buttons that make playing games on the handheld easy. I might turn to the snapnplay if this doesn't come out.
I guuess thats it, please add whatever you want. Sorry if this was slanted a lil too much toward the handspring camp. I really can't help it, I'm not only a client....well I'm only a client
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When you find yourself in the company of a halfling and an ill-tempered Dragon, remember, you do not have to outrun the Dragon...you just have to outrun the halfling.
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RE: Need to be done
Sony, the way to GO!
They did do a pretty darn good job on that T600, but i just want technology to create smaller chips and all, so you can fit the faster processor, The ENHANCED SPEAKER capable of voice play back, A microphone, And possibly mp3 player, and better graphics chip.
Now dont flame me for saying mp3 player, that is why i said possibly, And frankly if those ppc's ran palm os i would have gotton one of those ipaqs.
But if palm dies, will they need to sell the palm os to some company?
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RE: Need to be done
1) look at Epoc OS and Newton OS and see what they did with their interface.
2) forget about Dragon BAll Z ... that thing Mot makes ~~ and focus on Palm OS on Arm's development.
3) Mp3/Audio support in OS
4) dual expansion is nice but not necessary (if going to have dual I'll prefer Mem Stick + SD)
5) I guess those buttons need some rethinking ... I mean you are going to shift the OS strategy, maybe redefining those hardware buttons would be essential.
6) bluetooth support
7) Wireless Lan Support
8) the screen ... I don't know .... I like sony's screen.
9) Soft grafitti is nice .. You hired so many Newton programmer .. what are you doing with them ~~
No-one wants Virtual Grafitti...
RE: Need to be done
1) "bigger" screen
2) more flexible screen size (so hardware developers can make palm display in other dimensions)
3) faster/easier input
4) feels more like writing on paper
ok let me try to rebuttal myself:
1) we don't need bigger screen
2) again we want the same screen size, it would be a nightmare for developers to program for different screen sizes
3) I think hardware grafitti is already very easy to use and fast
4) same as "3"
Do I consider myself a troll, no ! I am just telling you what I think would be good for palm in general. No one knows what's good for everyone, but I used to use newton, and they got software grafitti and natural HWR, which I think is awesome.
of course you could think of more than 100 reasons to say that hardware grafitti is great and all, but that doesnt make people who want software grafitti trolls.
the reality is palm is moving to ARM and redesigning Palm OS with the help from BeOS's engineers, and they are more focus in networking, communications and multimedia. And they have the chance and skills the totally redesign and improve the palm platform. Are you going to tell them,
"we don't want bigger/high res screen , we don't need software grafitti, if you are going to make palm OS like that we are going to not buy your palm!"
RE: Need to be done
1. Hi-Res, Bright Color Screen
2. 16MB+ RAM
3. ???
RE: Need to be done
How Palm can survive:
2) Hire an effective CEO.
3) License the Sony high resolution color screen and release a version of the m505 with this screen, 16 MB of RAM and an effective launcher that uses the SD card seamlessly. Either buy Launcher III or pay HandEra to develop AutoCard. (PiDirect and MSMount would be technical support nightmares for Palm.)
4) Release the new model ASAP. Spring 2002 is too late.
5) Trim the fat from its operation.
6) Renegotiate their OS licensing agreement with Sony. $30 per license is reasonable.
7) Flood the low end of the market (high schools, department stores, WalMarts, Targets) with cheap m100. They now realize Palms are a commodity, just like any other piece of electronics.
8) Attack the business market. This is where the money is.
9) Sell its soul to Sony and beg for mercy.
10) Forget it - they're screwed.
RE: Need to be done
Damn right.
I dont think it was a rumor
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RE: I dont think it was a rumor
Citing anonymous sources, Cnet is reporting a rumor that Palm intends another round of lay-offs in the next few weeks.
Settle down everyone!
On second thought, they might as well cut everyone and do a free-agent draft or something . .
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it is true