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Palm is rumored to be announcing the i705, its new wireless handheld, on Monday. With the product release so near, its almost inevitable that pictures and information on the new device start to appear.

The i705 will have a large ad in the upcoming February 3 sales flyer for Staples. It lists the i705 for sale at $450. The color picture clearly shows a monochrome screen. The ad also says it will have 8 MB of RAM and a built-in SD expansion card slot.

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Whatever.....

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 11:35:14 AM #
I tried hard to get excited on this one, but somehow I just can't....

RE: Whatever.....
TypeMRT @ 1/24/2002 11:40:47 AM #
I hate to say it, but I second that. The only hope is that Sony doesn't come out with a device that has built-in wireless soon.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:04:34 PM #
Me too.. I have to keep telling myself "This is GREAT, this is unbelievable"....

RE: Whatever.....
Foo Fighter @ 1/24/2002 12:21:31 PM #
Count me in as bored stiff. Another ho hum Palm release.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:29:57 PM #
I've pre-ordered mine. Don't whine if you trolls miss out and have to wait weeks for yours (you know you want one! no one else has a wireless device!!!!)

RE: Whatever.....
Foo Fighter @ 1/24/2002 12:33:46 PM #
The above poster said: "you know you want one! no one else has a wireless device!!!!"

Really? So I quess receiving e-mail on my cell phone is just my imagination. Or that RIM's Blackberry isn't really wireless? There's nothing new about the i700 series that I can't get with other products.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:38:41 PM #
you're right ... receiving this page on a cell phone is a pain in the ***. i've tried numerous "Web-enabled" cell phones and they all make me run and hide. you get maybe 4 lines per screen and the fonts suck. i'm not a big fan of the m705 ... i think there's been too much hype and i'd much rather see it in color with 16 megs of RAM, but this device is a first for the PDA world. Sure, the Blackberry's been doing it for a while ... at least with respect to e-mail. But the Palm m700 series offers a decent screen size, a small form factor PLUS lots of supported applications, web browsing and instant messaging. I'd say that kind of "connectivity" is hard to come by these days ... even with your cell phone and Blackberry.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:26:44 PM #
It's not nearly as boring and uninspiring as most of you would suggest. At the same time, it's not as exciting as Palm would hope. It's middle-of-the-road, IMHO. It'll have some cool features, but it will lack some features many of us PDA-loving goobers (myself included) would hope for. The general public will likely think otherwise--many "regular" consumers, IMHO, will really like it.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:37:27 PM #
One thing that the i705 does that RIM does not do is allow mail attachments with multimail and then through to docs to go for editing word and excel docs. Now that is really neat!

RE: Whatever.....
kittie @ 1/24/2002 3:29:56 PM #
i dunno... i've seen it, (i work for palm) and i actually want one... maybe it's because i'm a chat junkie, and i really like the fact that this will be always-on... and the chat!
oh... but i don't know if i'm allowed to say anything 'bout it... job requirements and all. i just think it's funny that you guys got the info on it before they even let their own sales reps know about it! meh! ^_^

-+- Palm is great! Assimilate or Die! ^_^ -+-
RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:14:13 PM #
YAWN!!!!!

Nothing at all. And of course, Palm doesn't even inform those who work for them I work at the Post Office and I have to hear about stamp rate increases from my wife and on TV.

If only Palm would try.

RE: Whatever.....
terpfan91 @ 1/24/2002 4:34:06 PM #
Sure there are people who are going to love this, but how many? Folks (like me) who mostly like the palm as an organizer will probably opt for the Sony Clie T615 (16MB mem, color, etc.) and will either go without wireless services or continue to get narrowband e-mail on their cell phones. Folks who really like mobility services will probably want voice and stick with their Kyocera or wait for the Treo (should it ever appear). Undoubtedly there are people in the middle who will love the i705 -- but my guess is that there are fewer of these people than Palm would like to think.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:48:54 PM #
"I've pre-ordered mine. Don't whine if you trolls miss out and have to wait weeks for yours (you know you want one! no one else has a wireless device!!!!)"

Right. And I'm sure that pre-ordering them from Palm will insure your are the first to get one like when the m505 came out. Pre-ordered mine, and then cancelled when I saw them appearing on the Staples and Fry's shelves before Palm was even close to shipping my "pre-ordered" m505...

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:34:19 PM #
I really don't get why alot of you think this won't do well. The majority of Palm users that come here and spout about what Palm should do (16 mb, color, hi-res screens, etc) are die-hards. You represent less than 1% of all Palm users. Do you guys honestly think Palm listens to what you say? They know they'll never make you happy. If they made exactly what you wanted you would still be right back here whining about something else they left off of it.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:59:41 PM #
Im disappointed in Palm and Im very happy that I dont own any Palm stock *phew*

I wonder if they read this? Yawn.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:15:16 PM #
> You represent less than 1% of all Palm users.

Yep, I'll second that. The loudest people here insist everyone should be buying Sony N610s or T615s. I have to wonder if Sony is paying them. They certainly have plenty of money to blow, and lots of time to waste here. The 5 Palm devices I know of people buying in the last month were two S320's, an m125 and two m505's. Those were fairly geek-type people buying them too.

Missing the point
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 11:53:22 PM #
This really a lackluster product and perhaps with the right advertising, it will succeed with the aid of consumer ignorance. However, as people become more and more aware of what makes a PDA good (just like it took years for consumers to realize what made a computer good outside of pure MHz), more people will begin to stop buying Palm devices and buy Sony because Sonys are just a better value. The fact that Sony is the only one innovating (jog dial, high powered IR port, high-res screen) just adds insult to injury. People will start realizing what's going on, despite the fact that they may never see what's being written on this board or the fact that those making these comments constitute less than 1% of Palm users. When I got my Sony Clie T415, I did some research and in the first five minutes, I'd already ruled out Palm (still using serial ports on the lower models? what a joke) and concentrated on Handspring and Sony. I don't doubt for a second that anyone with half a brain will do a little bit of research before shelling out $450 for a handheld.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 1:13:09 AM #
> The fact that Sony is the only one innovating (jog dial,
> high powered IR port, high-res screen)

You do realize that these are hardly innovations (all are available on numerous other PDAs), and that the m50x series has a more powerful IR port than any of Sony's offerings don't you? Does Sony have one PDA with built in wireless? Does anybody else? I would say that is far more "innovative" than features that have been available in PDAs for years.

> When I got my Sony Clie T415 [ ... ]

Ugh! If you bought a T415, you have zero clue as to what is available in Palm OS devices. If you read any review or held it next to any other handheld (that has ever existed), it has absolutely the worst screen on any PDA, worst ever as far as I know. You know that Sony has already dropped support for it, don't you?

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 4:50:59 AM #
You guys are a little harsh...

I think that an 8Mb expandable unit is a great idea. Now I personally have an m505 and have been disappointed in the screen and am looking forward to a Clie 615 BUT...consider who will use such a wireless device. Doctors, Traders, infact anyone needing (really needing as opposed to it being nice to check email all the time) to have access to a wireless network will be stoked with this.

I reckon its an amazing achievement. Don't see anything similar from Sony here...Hang in there Palm.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 5:26:25 AM #
People just face it,

Palm had given us another YAWN product.

Really think about it. So it's nice that it has always on email, and you can do instant messaging.

WOW!

There you go.. Yawn, I mean Palm has gotten my praise, but couldn't they of done a bit more? I mean 16 megs could put this further in the enterprise market and a color screen, would of been worth trashing the M505, and a high screen reslution display would of even taken market share away from Sony and given it back to Palm.

I just don't see this device as a "Must Have" device.
So someone please wake us uall up when Palm really has something to "show off" to the world.

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 8:03:43 AM #
"but how many?"
I personally think alot of people will like the i705 because it has changed alot. I'm not talking about the casing and all, there is new features such as the always on wireless that VIIx users looked for in the past. And to think this is much lighter than the VIIx with a new OS. I think some VIIx users and RIM users might take the risk. But then again, that's what i think...
http://pdan.has.it

RE: Whatever.....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 9:39:54 AM #
Boring.....I could care less. At this price only high end users will buy it and high end users aren't interested. By the way who is the idiot that calls people trolls whenever they say they don't like something Palm does? Thats so stupid.

Biking

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 11:39:40 AM #
Hm what a trustworthy bike courier. Leaving fingerprints and scratches on the screen of some poor person's "new" 705. :)

The staples ad shows a star where the calculator button usually is. Since I've been living under a rock for a while I never saw that before.

It looks okay.

Star Icon
Ed @ 1/24/2002 11:45:21 AM #
> The staples ad shows a star where the calculator button usually is. Since
> I've been living under a rock for a while I never saw that before.

I've still got a copy of the manual that was posted by the FCC back when the i705 was approved. The manual also shows the star replacing the calculator button and calls it the Favorite icon.

Here's what the manual says:

    The Buttons Preferences screen enables you to assign a frequently used application to the Favorite icon, and to associate different applications with the buttons on the front of the handheld. Note Pad is assigned to the Favorite icon the by default. But if you use Memo Pad more frequently, you can assign Memo Pad to the icon so that you dont have to scroll through the Applications Launcher whenever you want to use Memo Pad.

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News Editor
RE: Biking
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 11:49:08 AM #
It is a new "favorite button."

MyPalm button
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:52:27 PM #
Also note the MyPalm icon on the launcher. The former ToDo List button appears to have the same icon.

You've Got to Admit the Weight on this is Nice

kevdo @ 1/24/2002 11:48:58 AM #
While I wish Palm would have released this with 16 MB instead of 8 MB, the fact that this is so small and light is a really, really good thing. (the RAM issue is somewhat lessened by being grayscale -- since grayscale/B&W versions of programs, games especially, often eat up less RAM than their color counterparts.)

I like that Palm knows they need to have a keyboard with this unit -- I just wish they would put out a model with built in keyboard ala the Treo.

-Kevin Crossman

RE: You've Got to Admit the Weight on this is Nice
bcombee @ 1/24/2002 2:32:04 PM #
If they had done the engineering work recently, it probably would have had 16MB. However, the engineering work was all done last spring before any competitive 16MB devices were out, and any wireless device has to go through FCC type approval. Upping the memory might have added a few months to the release cycle since it would have to get new FCC approval.

CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
RE: You've Got to Admit the Weight on this is Nice
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 8:47:44 PM #
Why would making the memory require FCC approval if it has nothing to do with the signal that is being transmitted? Just wondering.

Just called Staples

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:08:51 PM #
I just called my local Staples - they have none in stock and are not expecting shipments to sometime in June.

RE: Just called Staples
Foo Fighter @ 1/24/2002 12:22:58 PM #
What!?!?! That's impossible? Why would Palm announce a product that won't ship until June?

RE: Just called Staples
Ed @ 1/24/2002 12:27:37 PM #
Please notice that the date for this flyer is February 3, which is over a week from now. Palm itself hasn't announced an availability date for the i705. Of course you can't call Staples and order one.

Don't you think it is at all interesting that you can call Staples and they have a model called the i705 in their system? Does that help convince you it's real?

Also, Palm is taking reservations for a wireless handheld right now which it says will be out soon. June isn't soon so I wouldn't put too much credence on the date in Staples system.

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News Editor

RE: Just called Staples
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:27:55 PM #
first of all, this is still a "rumor". Second, remember m500/505?

RE: Just called Staples
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:02:51 PM #
Who cares when Staples get there's.

RE: Just called Staples
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:55:01 PM #
Any guess on whether Palm has learned its lesson about preorders? Will people who reserve REALLY get theirs first?

Not, of course, that I want one of these dinosaurs. :>

RE: Just called Staples
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 8:04:03 PM #
Call staples? You think any of those idiots have even a vague idea what the new Palm is?

You might as well expect your order at McDonalds to be right after you pull away from the drive thru... [what the hell is this McFish crap in here!]

RE: Just called Staples
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 8:24:42 PM #
LOL!!! A rumor?! Wow, that person must be REALLY skilled with Photoshop to place an i705 into a persons hands, and do the box, and everything. You are really smart. ;)

RE: Just called Staples
Foo Fighter @ 1/24/2002 11:38:14 PM #
This is the funniest damn thing I have ever witnessed. The i705 is popping up in stores all over the place, and there are still dumb asses who think it's a fake! What more proof do you want?

More photos of the courier!

huggy @ 1/24/2002 12:25:56 PM #
I've been looking the junkie pics and I couldn't help paying more attention to the bike courier than the i705... what a **** is that! the only things this unit has that the VII didn't have is a bit more memory and an expansions card!

-------------- huggy ---------------
RE: More photos of the courier!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:16:40 PM #
It is smaller, syncs via USB, and in my understanding has considerably better and cheaper wireless services than the VII ever did.

DO NOT SHOW MORE PICS OF THE COURIER!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:41:51 PM #
I think too much of her is shown already. This could get her in trouble with her employer and maybe even with Palm.

Frank

RE: More photos of the courier!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 6:02:19 PM #
yes SHE looked kind of CUTE!!!!!! Uh...leave the gloves on, honey.......

Is it just me . .

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:30:37 PM #
Or does it look HUGE in the hands of that courier? It looks to be the same size as a VII . . . . even if it is smaller, its still lame.

Dear Palm: Shoulda killed this and started from scratch . . again.

Profoundly Unimpressed

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:31:23 PM #
Usually I avoid negative comments about the various PDA, but this time I just have to say: "Palm, is this the best you can come up with? With all the innovations other companies have added to their PalmOS devices, you couldn't bother to add a jog dial, or a hi-rez screen, or even more RAM???"

Palm, I'm just about ready to spend $500 on a new PDA, I was tempted to wait to see what would come from your R&D. See this, I won't even bother to wait for OS-5. You lost another sale...

-Brett Blatchley
Pfafftown, NC USA

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:40:15 PM #
Yawn. Is this all Palm can come up with? Whats the popint having an R&D department if the same stuff is bing recycled? The Treo is a much better device over this one. Lets see:

1. Can be used anywhere where there is GSM service.

2. Got Voice.

3. Will be readty for GPRS.

4. Got 16 MB of RAM!

5. Got a built-in keyboard

The only thing it is missing at the moment is an expansion slot.

I bet there is nothing that the favorite icon can do that a hack such as McPhling cannot. Palm Hardware division is dead.

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:50:12 PM #
> 1. Can be used anywhere where there is GSM service.

You mean:

1. Cannot be used in most locations due to GSM

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:10:51 PM #
Tough.

That is what happens when you live in a country that does not realize how things should be done if they are to be done properly.
GSM is a great way of communication, and with the addition of GPRS, it is also great for datatransfers.
Where I live we have 100% GSM cover in the entire country, from three different operators, and at least one of them offers free datatransfers over GPRS.
Most of europe have GSM.
We also have PAL - TV! :-)

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:15:04 PM #
In Europe we nearly 100% coverage of GSM/GPRS, which means that a device like this is un-neccesary. A mobile (Ericsson or a Nokia) with Bluetoth would do everything that a Palm i705 could do

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:29:03 PM #
Do not forget Siemens. Simens SL45i for example has both MP3-player and support for running JavaPrograms (midlets) from the MMC-card you can put in it.
Also, the WAP browser of Siemens is much better than the one used in Nokia-phones. Ericssons New wap-browser is pretty good also though.

I however like to use my Siemens S45 (with GPRS) together with my palmIIIxe. They work perfectly toghether.

Off Topic... sorta...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:37:04 PM #
If we're on the topic of GSM
Just wondering if the Treo supports triband (or at least 1800 & 1900)

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:44:22 PM #
"Just wondering if the Treo supports triband (or at least 1800 & 1900)"

I used the search page for this site to find the keyword 'Treo'. The very first article has the answer to your question. Please do a tiny bit of research before asking a question.

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:04:46 PM #
Oh please....so your country has 100% coverage. That is because your country is the size of one of our states! (Unless you are from Russia, and last time I checked they don't have 100% coverage) Now, try and cover a nation that is 3000x2000 miles and you will quickly understand that the cost issue is a little different over here.

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:52:04 PM #
You see! Big countries, no good!
Who needs more than 8,9 million people in a single country (average of 2 people per square kilometer!).

What are the advantage of such a big country anyway?

(btw, we now have four different third generation mobile phone networks up and running... Later this year you should be able to get a subscription and use them too! Now, where are the phones...)

RE: Profoundly Unimpressed
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 5:02:28 AM #
Er...ignoramous...

Australia should qualify as as large as USA. 98% of our population is covered by GSM.

Euroupe - 98% or population is covered by GSM.

Australians do not pay to receive calls. We find it amusing that the US puts up with substandard mobile phone networks and exorbident charges...

Definitely not a RIM killer

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:53:21 PM #
Looking at the ad with the big, clunky keyboard attachment, I can safely say the i705 is NO RIM killer.

I love the small size of my RIM (fits on my belt in a plastic holster) and will never give it up for some kludgy, large Palm with a franken-hack keyboard attachment.

RE: Definitely not a RIM killer
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:09:24 PM #
the "clunky" keyboard attachment? It barely even extends on the end of the palm.

RE: Definitely not a RIM killer
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 6:07:27 PM #
Clunky as in you have to attach the stupid piece of plastic to type. That would be defined as a kludge.

RE: Definitely not a RIM killer
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 8:07:02 PM #
The new Sharp has a keyword that Palm wishes they had in their new i705.

http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2134869242.html

RE: Definitely not a RIM killer
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 1:39:30 PM #

If you've got something clipped to your belt, and it's not a handgun, you are a huge loser.


~jeff

RE: Definitely not a RIM killer
lpolanco @ 12/1/2002 7:07:28 PM #
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The new i705

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 12:49:49 PM #
I've been waiting over 2 weeks for my replacement palm 505 to show up after it stopped hot syncing. I have been continuously been mislead by Palm support as to it's arrival. I even stayed at home from work yesterday to ensure I would be at home when the replacement arrived via Airborne. Today they told me it will be even another week.

I have now pre-ordered the replacement for my wife's Palm m505. We bought them together based on my recommendation and I can only imagine her disappointment when her's stops working. She's a highly paid project manager who will probably convert to WinCE. I have been a loyal palm customer since my first US Robotics Palm 1000. I now have a collection of obsolete devices including a Palm Pro,, A Palm III, a Palm VII and now my m505.

Yesterday, I referred two of my work associates who have asked me for their opinion on which Palm device to select to either go with the Sony or start investigating the MS CE devices. I know one of them is at BestBuy right now picking up the Sony Clie T615C. I can no longer recommend Palm hardware. They have lost their commitment to the customer.

Last night, I recommended to my investment club that we sell the last 200 shares of Palm in our portfolio. Our club executed the trade this morning.

So long Palm.. You've lost your focus. You have to know when to stop administering CPR.. Youll only break more ribs. Sell the OS to Sony and close the doors.

John
johnwsprecher@aol.com

RE: The new i705
peter167 @ 1/24/2002 1:17:48 PM #
Why your post topic is the new i705?

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:52:29 PM #
So you sold 200 shares of palm stock at under 4 bucks a share - when the price target for Palm is between 8 and 12?

I am glad I am not in your investment club.

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:56:25 PM #
It took you this long to sell your PALM shares ?!?
Well, sounds like your investment club is a big joke.

I made lots of money off of PALM when I sold it in early 2000.

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:38:52 PM #
Thanks for selling your shares......the Investment club I belong to are going to buy the 200 you sold....Why......Cause 200 shares x the current Palm price is peanuts compared to the fact that if it only goes up a little you could have made a little profit.

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:27:04 PM #
You sold them right before Palm is going to release a new device? Pretty dumb, in my opinion.

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 10:15:21 PM #
Which Bozo analyst gave this a strike price between $8.00 to $12.00 on a company that is bleading money.. What was the date on that recommendation?

We'll see who has the last laugh. Obviously none of the deliriously Palm faithful, who remain anonymous, haven't purchased the "best palm has to offer."

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 10:19:00 PM #
I know why this was posted to "The New i705." It's a warning to those considering the latest Palm has to offer.. buyer beware.

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 11:10:58 PM #
Bear Stearns changed its rating for palm's stock from Neutral to Attractive lately.

You're anonymous yourself.

RE: The new i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 2:30:13 AM #
you need to get a life

Voice...

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:11:58 PM #
I don't suppose they were smart enough to do this such that you could stick a Bluetooth card in it, get one of those Bluetooth headsets, and then do voice over it. Now that would be cool, but I'm guessing the hardware wouldn't support it.

RE: All images
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:26:18 PM #
Data transfer limit exceeded, for that site.

Is the SD slot for the i705 still on the side?

RE: All images
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:18:46 PM #
Anyone have those four images?? I would be happy to repost them ASAP...just send them to me. dave@davespda.com

RE: All images
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:30:26 PM #
I have mirrored the pictures since PalmJunkies's Geo site has been down for a while. http://www.davespda.com/i705.htm

The Favourites star is pointing...

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 1:24:49 PM #
DOWN.

Now, why is that you think?

RE: The Favourites star is pointing...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:09:37 PM #
When I look at the picture, it doesn't appear to be pointing down nor up. Neither does it appear to be pointing directly left or right. I think that Palm did a good job at keeping the star points from any particular direction.

This should keep people from says stuff like, "Palm is moving their corporate headquarters to Texas! That looks like a Texas star."

or

"Palm must have signed a deal with the devil. They have a pentagram on the new I-705."

Give me a break!

RE: The Favourites star is pointing...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:16:07 PM #
I thought it was pointing in the same direction as the magnifying glass.

RE: The Favourites star is pointing...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 2:08:30 AM #

I think at the very least, Palm should of given the screen a virtual graffiti.

I just discovered that my H330 can switch the calc button to launch any app you want. It also resizes the app icon and places it right there where the Calc button once was. Its a really cool thing dangit ;)


Also, it would be soo nice for reading emaail with the extra real estates.


I thought it was the i700 ;)

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:35:21 PM #
From that super-reliable source yesterday in Germany.

RE: I thought it was the i700 ;)
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:44:19 PM #
PDAGeek says:

I checked with my source that has brought me past pictures and details of Palms weeks before release, and apparently the information that PalmInfoCenter received was true. The m130 will be $300, and the m515 will be just over $400 and will replace the m505. Palm is planning a launch of the products in March, but we may see the products in stores a week or two before the launch since Palm is stocking its warehouses to avoid not having enough product on hand.

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002jan/bpd20020124009930.htm

WELL?? BORIS??
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 2:52:14 PM #
any comments?

RE: I thought it was the i700 ;)
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:28:37 PM #
Is it possible that they are doing a different i700 device for Europe?

RE: I thought it was the i700 ;)
mikecane @ 1/24/2002 4:10:27 PM #
It is the *i705*. I have held the box in my hand. See my msg about CompUSA below.

RE: I thought it was the i700 ;)
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 6:08:35 PM #
Let's hope the prices aren't real...

$300 for a color m130 which reminds me of a HELLO KITTY toy is ridiculous.

And $400 for m505 which is nothing more than better backlighting will be suicide.

Oh well, good luck PALM cause you gonna need it. Competition is great. We have Sony and Handspring to show Palm the way, the Zen of Palm. Ooops. that was the stupid inanity of Yankowski the toady.

RE: I thought it was the i700 ;)
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 8:16:12 AM #
I have stopped by two staples and the CompUSA all three in New York mentioned in this article, and have not found the i705. Perhaps it was already sold out, because in the display i did not see a real model, working or not working. Maybe its just me.
http://pdan.has.it

RE: I thought it was the i700 ;)
mikecane @ 1/25/2002 9:43:33 AM #
It is probably you. (Did you expect me to resist that temptation?)

Wireless for Everyone

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:00:12 PM #
Palm absolutely has it right when it comes to wireless - email is the killer app, and people who love their Palm OS will prefer this to the RIM because it can do much more than email, and they'll prefer it to web-enabled phones (even Palm OS ones) because of the always-on system and the integration of the mail. No POP to bother with, no dial-up, just press the power button, read your email, jot a reply, clip some info and put back in your pocket.

I think most people would rather have a small cell phone and a PDA than a large all-in-one device - I know I do. The other thing is that for pricing plans, the Palm will likely be a lot better than cell-phone options, or RIM. That's very appealing to me since I don't want another $50/month bill.

BUT; I think that the device lags so much on the hardware side that most Palm consumers will not go for it. It could become popular in the corporate market though, since it's a very functional business machine with wireless connectivity, running the most popular OS on the planet. I think ultimately it will be a hit. I personally will not buy one, because I have already decided that my next PDA will be color.

What I would like to see, and what I think could really save Palm, is for the Palm OS spin-off to set up the service to work with OTHER PDAs. If they could produce a CF or MS plug in, or a sled that would at least fit the Sony PDAs, they could become a major player in the wireless provider market - and that's where the profit is.

Please, Palm, hear my cry; make the service available regardless of hardware (any Palm OS or PPC2002) and Palm will once again be king!

RE: Wireless for Everyone
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:03:13 PM #
The more I think about it, the more I agree with what you said. I would really like to have one of these. But there is no way I will get one with 8 MB and monochrome.

Someone above said that these features (the 8 MB, at least) would have been corrected if it wasn't for the amount of time it takes to approve a communications device. Thay may be so (which means it will be a long time before we see this with color and 16+ MB), but I hope Palm doesn't manufacture too many of these, because it is going to sell only slightly better than the m500. Despite how excited Palm is pretending to be about this device, I have to hope that behind the scenes they are vastly more realistic.

RE: Wireless for Everyone
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:18:57 PM #
You took the words right from my mouth...

They should make the wireless service available for other PDA's.

I would love to have a CF version for my Handera and if they made one for the universal connector than they would bring it to their entire line of devices.

I must admit though, such an option is probably too ambitious for Palm right now. They really seem to be in a rut...

RE: Wireless for Everyone
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 12:17:13 AM #
Why is 16MB such a big deal? I could barely fill up the 2MB Palm V. My new 8MB 505 still has pleanty of memory free, even after installing big apps like Vindigo and AvantGo. I also just got the free 16MB SD card from the special in December. I don't think I will have a problem with using up all of my memory any time soon.

Handspring must be smiling.

james_sorenson @ 1/24/2002 3:14:30 PM #
This is the wireless Palm we have all been waiting for? It costs how much? It's how big? Good grief, the Treo is going to bury this thing! Twice the memory, smaller-size, built-in keypad, clear lid, etc. There is also the fact that the Treo can double as a full-fledge cell-phone.

Now, I'll admit that there are two strong advantages to the Palm i705.

(1) The wireless protocol Palm will use will probably have more coverage than GSM for now. Since I'm in California, I've never had a problem with my GSM Visorphone in any city. But, this may be a different story for many others.

(2)Here is the clincher: Memory-slot! Notice that the apps are getting more bloated? Heck, even the documents are getting pretty beefy. It won't be long before the 16MB in the Treo will just not be enough. I get by on 8MB because I have the CF Memplug adapter for my Visor. This won't be available in the Treo. Ah, me. If only the Palm could work as a cell-phone, I might be interested.

-------
James Sorenson

RE: Handspring must be smiling.
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:29:58 PM #
I'd never buy a Treo. I have zero desire for a tiny Palm built into a phone. The i705 is at least worth my consideration.

PQA's are slick

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:29:43 PM #
I think the nice thing about this type of device is the PQA (Palm Query App) where you can make a quick transaction without the overhead of a browser. Myself am waiting for the Treo, but will certainly miss PQA support.

RE: PQA's are slick
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:04:05 PM #
Any palm with the mobile internet kit can use PQAs (essentially iNetlib support). Heck, Handspring will probably include PQA support in their TREO line... no reason to reduce the software support.

RE: PQA's are slick
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 2:19:18 AM #

Yeah, the Kyocera can also use PQA's built in.

RE: PQA's are slick
Scott @ 1/25/2002 2:02:44 PM #
Don't expect Handspring to add PQA support. Hawkins is going his own way with their Blazer browser. He's wrong. PQAs are good.

Scott

Fake

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:37:44 PM #
If any one has yet to notice this is a TOTAL FAKE!
the buttons from the visor edge, the power button is off the visor prism. the shape is of the Visors, (the new palms have that hourglass shape). this is a retouch to the rumor photos when there was a suspected wireless visor.
nice try though.

RE: Fake
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:03:56 PM #
And there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll, man didn't land on the moon and Elvis is working down at a Texaco in Midland, TX.

You really need to get out more.

:)

RE: Fake
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:06:59 PM #
So is the draft manual (which depicts an identical design) a fake, too? Conspiracy theorists abound.

RE: Fake
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:07:54 PM #
Oops, meant to include URL for (alleged) draft manual: http://www.piensaenpalm.com/manuales/palm/

RE: Fake
mikecane @ 1/24/2002 4:08:41 PM #
You moron! I have just held the box in my hand! See message below. What PIC has as pictures are *real*. No wonder you won't sign your name. Now go away, you tiresome dolt.

RE: Fake
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:14:00 PM #
Wow! Thanks for whoever posted the manual link ... excellent!

RE: Fake
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:22:46 PM #
dude, i used this last fall...the device is slick and much better than a VIIx.

this device will go over decently with the public.

RE: Fake
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 6:11:17 PM #
> this device will go over decently with the public.

Yeah, right.
That's why you aren't running marketing strategy for a major fortune 500 corporation.

RE: Fake
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:26:53 PM #
Pics are real. Saw one at CompUSA today. See post below for mini review. I can sum it up here for ya though... Ummmm, don't think so. Sorry Palm! Not this time.

No Real Value

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 3:45:57 PM #
Why buy this device, when for about $200 less you can get a Clie PEG-S320 and Mylo, with a better resolution screen, jog dial, and real TCP/IP/UDP/etc? Neither the hardware nor the hardware/service combo are compelling given the other options.

RE: No Real Value
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:00:14 PM #
The Clie as a handheld certainly appears far superior. But Sony's Mylo wireless service is too limited. Just look at the coverage map and you'll see that most of country, including many major metropolitan areas, don't have access to Mylo. Comprare Palm's coverage map (http://wireless.palm.net/coverage/index.html) with Mylo's (http://www.mylo.com/coverage/).

RE: No Real Value
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:27:02 PM #
that MyLo thing is the UGLIEST thing I have ever seen!!! Odd, how Sony puts so much effort into design and then comes up with that nerd ball accessory to connect with. the MyLo was DOA and that is how it will stay..

RE: No Real Value
Scott @ 1/25/2002 2:04:26 PM #
The MYLO is only available for the older CLIE which has the same resolution as this (160x160). It's also bigger/heavier and monthly cost is more expensive.

Scott


i705 on sale in NYC **NOW**

mikecane @ 1/24/2002 4:06:08 PM #
The CompUSA on 5th Ave & 37th St in NYC has the new Palm i705 IN STOCK AND ON SALE **NOW**!!!

The have 20 units in. $449.

It looks just like the leaked pictures.

They do not have a display unit out, though.

They also have the new T615 -- but NO display unit until tomorrow (WAAAH!).

This is NOT a rumor!! I have held both the T615 and i705 *boxes* in my own hands!!

RE: i705 on sale in NYC **NOW**
sub_tex @ 1/24/2002 4:36:38 PM #
Guess i'm heading to CompUSA after work to go check it out!

and the T615 on display tomorrow? Can't wait to see the screen.

I'll have to beam Deep Reader and the like over again.

:)

-Aaron

RE: i705 on sale in NYC **NOW**
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:00:14 PM #
give us a review or some size comparisons.What is the backlight like? Is the grafiti area see through like the m505?
Is it haevy or light?

RE: i705 on sale in NYC **NOW**
ssummer @ 1/24/2002 5:17:48 PM #
Dude, you should have bought as much of the 705's as you could and then eBay them. You'd be surprised how much people will pay to be the first on their block to have a new gadget (just look at that auction they had for the Treo).

RE: i705 on sale in NYC **NOW**
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:33:46 PM #
I don't think so. Since i705 will be available soon, buying them will only bankrupt you (just kidding. someone will buy it, but might not with any premium) instead of making money...

RE: i705 on sale in NYC **NOW**
mikecane @ 1/25/2002 9:45:09 AM #
I held the box. I didn't hold the unit itself. They didn't have a demo unit out. They would have had a demo unit of the T615C out, but the idiot manager grabbed it from the clerks to play with for himself for a day. Ah, CompUSA. Typical.

Will it have a Hungary or US made issues again?

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 4:20:27 PM #

=)

graph

Pocket Versions of Word and Excel? Ha!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:15:02 PM #
Anyone else notice that the add says "Pocket versions of Word and Excel." Unless Palm started buying these applications from Microsoft, the add better rephrase this to "application compatibility with Word and Excel."

RE: Will it have a Hungary or US made issues again?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:47:19 PM #
There are NO Hungary or US made issues in the first place, how would this one be an "again"?

If I need to remind you, the person who said that the US model of the m505 had a brighter screen was the same dork who posted the fake m505 brightness hack. When people said it didn't work, he tried to claim it was because they had one from the US which had the hack built in... but we know that person was lying thorugh his teeth about everything. And, having seen an assortment of US and Hungary units, they are EXACTLY THE SAME.

Duh.

RE: Will it have a Hungary or US made issues again?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:58:24 PM #
I have encountered the USA and hungary model. it may not be all hungary model (since im open minded) but certainly it was a case on my hungry model. i had both b4 i returned my hungary model.

it was difficult for me looking for a USA model.. im sure you work for palm since palm denied this. or you never owned a colored or the highend device.

graph

Yawn.

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:13:35 PM #
Monochrome screen? 8M memory? $400+???

Is Palm actively trying to Enron themselves?

Seems like another "too little, too late" move by Palm.

RE: Yawn.
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 8:12:34 PM #
Laf. We should use that as a term for a failed Palm.

For example, the new Palm 105 with leopard skin case Enron'd big time!

Why only integrated units?

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 5:32:05 PM #
Would it be possible for Palm to offer the same services that come with the i705 (e.g., Palm.net) with an add-on sled for an SD card? Rather than investing in this hardware, I think it would be great if I could run out to my local Palm outlet and pick up a sled that attaches (via the Universal Connector) to my m505 and KA-BOOM I've got the same functionality with a color screen ... and I would be able to carry that functionality to new handhelds that I buy in the future (as long as they offer the UC as well). Am I missing something? Shouldn't that be possible?

RE: Why only integrated units?
Ed @ 1/24/2002 5:50:55 PM #
You should take a look at this review of the Minstrel m500 Wireless Modem. It is a clip-on sled that does just what you ask.
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2499

---
News Editor
RE: Why only integrated units?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 6:10:51 PM #
I know about the Novatel, but that requires outside service provider support. I can't get anyone in the Atlanta, GA area to support that service (besides, the cost is pretty high, IMHO). I'd like for Palm to offer an "enhancement" to the m500 series that would allow it to take advantage of the same "online" features offered by the i705. That would allow them to bring in a steady stream of revenue from online services (at least the same that they're getting from the i700 series) and it would give consumers some kind of choice. If you're cell phone service provider doesn't offer any data-capable phones (e.g., no bluetooth and/or no data cables), then you could use a solution like this to connect your Palm to the web without purchasing a completely new unit.

RE: Why only integrated units?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 2:36:41 AM #

I agree. The palm Net service at the lower price is probably all most people need. Wish they would make one for CF and springboards too. That is what would get a massive subscriber base.


RE: Why only integrated units?
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 1:54:35 PM #
What you're suggesting is available now for many US Palm aficianados - CDPD wireless IP service.

The biggest problem, IMO, with the i705 is the nature of the palm.net connection. It's slow and it's not IP. That's severely limiting when compared with CDPD technology which provides an actual IP address.

I use a Novatel Minstrel M500 with my m505 - a solution which offers the best of both worlds. Real IP service at 19.2Kbps, and when I don't need the net, I drop the sled in the briefcase. Then I'm back to my slim 505 form factor which fits in my back pocket just fine.

I realize that CDPD coverage is spotty still, but it is expanding. ATT wireless is the primary carrier, and they provide service to value-added carriers like Go America, Verizon, Omnisky, and Mylo. I think the biggest hole right now is Atlanta.

Hopefully, faster competing wireless IP technologies will crop up soon. But the bottom line is, if you can't ping with it, it's gonna suck.

- cowpen


In Germany: low Chance for this

T.W.G @ 1/24/2002 5:35:56 PM #
Hi,

I don't know why my posting to "EDs letter" didn't show up here!?

Ok, but s.th. about the i705:
I don't think that they will make such a device for Germany! Since they have to integrate complete new wireless-hardware because Germany, Europe and some rare parts of USA use the modern GSM- and GPRS- Networks so they would have to redesign the unit.

AND: WE have the Nokia Communicator 9210 a Dualband (GSM900/1800) smartphone with a screen to die for ;-)
Really, it looks exactly like on the web! Unbelievable!
This machine has got very great success not only in our country and as far as I know they'll introduce (or still have it...) in USA to attract you.
Believe me: The Palm has no chance as a wireless e-mail device against the Communicator except in size!

I do not like Nokia very much in Germany because the seem to have same position as Microsoft:
Everybody knows & everybody wants Nokia stuff.

With Ericssons T68 Colordisplay, bluetooth enabled TRIband phone there's nice movement on our markets.

So, if you would like to have a look at our german High-Tech GSM/GPRS Networks and the devices out there ;-) you will know why I think a wireless Palm in this form wouldn't have a real chance to get succesfull here.

So, let me know what you think about my opinion.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks

Thomas

RE: In Germany: low Chance for this
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 6:00:07 PM #
Thomas, that is good input. What do you think about the Treo 180 and the 270 as far as acceptance in Germany or Europe in general?

Thanks - George

RE: In Germany: low Chance for this
peter167 @ 1/24/2002 6:30:48 PM #
Yes, I know there is GSM/GPRS all over Europe, but I recalled that RIMM just started selling some blackberries over there (here). I doubt that these blackberries will run on GSM/GPRS.

As far as competing worldwide, Japanese do not like American and European products. Europeans do not like Japanese and European products. Americans like good products. Europeans and Japanese are more self-protected on buying products. They don't like imports.

Finally, the communicator and i705 are two totally different devices, since i705 is not aimed as a phone at all. No voice. I think the i705 is aimed primary at a blackberry (e-mail pager) and an Internet viewer at one affordable price. Of course, some people will not like it because... they don't like it personally.

The communicator is going to be updated soon because it will not be acceptable by consumers of its price and its size. Palm, unlike the other big boys, have free cash to build gadgets whatever way they like. Palm has to be conservative and make sure the products will sell at masses.

As far as my opinion (counts), the Treo is definitely a flop. People will immediately flame on me, but I don't care. Reconfirm this - the Treo is $539 without a two-year subscription contract. Make that clear, folks. It is not $399, unless you could buy it at some discount.



RE: In Germany: low Chance for this
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:10:34 PM #
I'm surprised about the Treo comment. Is it just the price or the function you think is bad? I think it's a $200 PDA plus memory, keyboard and a wireless modem and great integration. I think $400 is ok as initial price.

RE: In Germany: low Chance for this
T.W.G @ 1/25/2002 4:11:55 AM #
Hi again,

I can't say much about the Treo devices because I haven't seen them in nature. I'll do so on CeBit in Hannover on March (Happy to visit!!!!!) and will make my own opinion about it since I don't make a real opinion about a product just over pictures.
Your opinions about our Ignorance about Japanese or American products is very interesting :) 'cause 90% of our computers still running Windows with Intel-CPUs.
And Sonys Products have a good Image in Germany. But ONLY the products, their service is real catastrophy!!!!!
Same is with japanese cars like Mitsubishi, Toyota, Honda & Nissan. They're accepted, too.

And me as a German boy must say to you americans:
I'm glad to have internet and look over the big ocean ;-) because those hightech products I wouldn't know without Internet and having a look to USA or Japan!
I'm learning Japanese beginning next week and then I hope I don't just need to look at the pictures on such sites :-))

Back to Treos vs. Communicator: The Communicator device is the nearly the same idea like the Treo. It is highly accepted because of his technology and his quality. For example the complete management of Mercedes Benz is using them. It's standard at Mercedes!
The Communicator has a high resolution high quality color display (better than CLIE!), NO touchscreen, full keyboard and is not only capable of voice and email:
He is also capable of FULL webserving, send & receive Fax directly to the machine and so on...

I think the Treo should be compared to Motorolas Accompli (right spelled?).
These two machines are following the same philosophy.
Oh: Germans and american technology:
My mother has received the Motorola Accompli as a birthday present this December ;)

I don't know about Motorolas success in USA but the only phones of them really accepted here in Germany are the things like V.50, V.66 and so on as a status object. I know this is nonsense but I hardly must see that most of our people are just buying and reading everything conformed as "lifestyle" :(
The standard phones from Motorola aren't accepted very good because of the menustructure and -navigation. Very bad!
If you have the chance to check out this Nokia phones try it: Simply and fast Menunavigation! That's why they have such success. Their building quality isn't very good.

So, TREO vs. ACCOMPLI:

The Treo has got the better OS ;-)
I had the opportunity to play around with the Motorola on CeBit and know from my mother and it's just good for people who want a good smartphone with PDA in acceptable size. The OS of Motorolas Accompli is not that good.. it is very slow and the Display has weak contrast.
So, in this case I would say that the TREO would have really good chance in European Markets. By the way Handspring has found a Provider (Viag Interkom) who want's to sell these devices.
I think they better have choosen T-D1 (T-Mobile) but we will see...
At the CeBit I definetely will have a look at it.
If it looks cheap forget it. No Businessuser or s.th. else will buy it. Except a few freaks.


This statement ok?
I know the english is catastrophy but even as you know I'm still german ;-)

Greetings


Thomas

New AIM

Gremmie @ 1/24/2002 6:52:37 PM #
I got my upgrade notice for a new AOL Instant Messenger, one of the new features is that it tells you when a buddy is using a mobile device...now I use an iPAQ to connect to the internet, but with the ability to receive messages with the new i705 when its turned off will make these two applications very useful.

RE: New AIM
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:17:56 PM #
You can now use AIM on AT&T Wireless - go to www.attws.com/aim

RE: New AIM
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2002 10:22:44 AM #
AIM on a mobile phone is the worst thing I have ever used. It is way too small of screen real estate and using the phone buttons to type messages was just a pain. The only reason I am considering getting the i705 for a backup of my PocketPC is for wireless email and instant messaging. I like the larger screen size here than the Blackberry. But I agree that the i705 and its "always on" technology loaded with programs like AIM and ICQ would be a very nice thing.

PalmJunkie Pictures..

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:04:18 PM #
Now why didnt' PalmJunkie take a picture of the courier's face? Her cheek bone looks pretty nice :)

RE: PalmJunkie Pictures..
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 8:14:09 PM #
The most exciting thing about the i705 is the delivery chick!

Palm should have gotten a stripper and slap two i705 over her nips as pasties. Maybe use a few stylus as tassles...

Palm: You're Late Again

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:21:21 PM #
Well, this should put some fire into Handspring and Palm as Blackberry signed a sweet deal with Motorola and Nextel.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020124/tc/tech_rim_nextel_motorola_dc_1.html

I don't think Palm stands a chance. I use a small Blackberry everyday and let me tell you: I will never trade it for an oversized i705.

RE: Palm: You're Late Again
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:27:04 PM #
Circuit City in New York City has jumped the gun and is currently selling the Palm i705 for $449.

RE: Palm: You're Late Again
peter167 @ 1/24/2002 7:28:15 PM #
RIM is feeling the heat right now. It knows that once Palm shipped its i705, it is in big trouble.

A month ago, Palm had already announced it teamed up with TI to build a GSM/GPRS device by the end of the year.

It does not matter whether you like to trade in your blackberry or not. The one who is making decision is the IT manager, primarily. They will focus on support, function/features, usage and price. Size is a factor, but not a factor that can overcome features/price, given the fact that the i705 is too that BIG to carry around.

That's good to see some rivals begin to worry.

RE: Palm: You're Late Again
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 7:28:23 PM #
Signing a deal is a heck of a long way away from a product release, not to mention the challenges of trying to work within the boundries of 3 companies.

RE: Palm: You're Late Again
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 4:29:15 AM #
peter167,

You are mis-informed about so many things, and yet you write believing you know what you're talking about. Problem is, the other kids follow your asinine lead.

I know I'm just adding to the pointless dialogs, but I could not help myself.

I used to enjoy reading the comments by informed and intelligent ADULTS. Well, those days are gone...

peter167, you are an idiot
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 5:25:40 AM #
see above post

(just wanted to make sure you read the post)

No matter what

peter167 @ 1/24/2002 7:33:59 PM #
you can feel that most people care about Palm's new devices. (102 comments since morning, 200+ comments since yesterday for rumors)

And one final thing, keep reminding yourslef the Treo is $539 without a contract. Write that down in your Memo Pad.

For trolls, welcome your comings to PIC. Your trollish comments just remind everyone that they are so happy that they own a Palm.

Calling All Trolls

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 8:10:18 PM #
Whether you like it or not Palm has got the momentum. The company has got people focusing on them. Just the last few news articles prove it. Poor Trolls ......They are shouting ......Stop the new machines .....stop them...... Seriously .....any person who truely uses the Palm is elated over the possibilites of the M515. If you truely use the device every day, you are ready for color and more internal memory. I am talking about serious users of the Palm 5 platform. What a treat.

RE: Calling All Trolls
Foo Fighter @ 1/24/2002 9:09:32 PM #
Actually anyone who is ready for color and more memory will likely opt for a Sony Clie T615, which is a hell of a lot more innovative than a low res M5xx.

RE: Calling All Trolls
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:43:24 PM #
Sorry......not the same size.

Just word of advice to newcomers.....put more confidence in positive info you read in comments and avoid the negative crap that you see on this website. You will do yourself a world of good.

RE: Calling All Trolls
Foo Fighter @ 1/24/2002 11:14:15 PM #
At least I have the common decency to register and not post anonymously. By the way, I just love your "enlightened" comment that newcomers should ignore negative comments. Brilliant philosophy, you are a true sage. Yeah, the last thing an informed consumer wants is balanced commentary...positive AND negative, when looking at a new product.

RE: Calling All Trolls
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 7:47:31 AM #
After looking at the majority of posts,I think its a good philosophy. For a product that has garnered a great percentage of the market, all the negative posts just don't register. I have to go by MY EXPERIENCE with the machine. I have learned of some drawbacks concerning past Palms, but that usually has been posted by a balanced user.

RE: Calling All Trolls
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 9:46:57 AM #
The T615 is barely larger than the 505. I don't think most people would notice the difference.

RE: Calling All Trolls
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 9:47:33 AM #
So your the idiot who calls everyone trolls if they don't think everything Palm does is perfect. get a life or better yet get a Pocket PC or a Sony.

RE: Calling All Trolls
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2002 7:44:52 AM #
I like your logic......its not based on what was said, but it does have a home as a part of the trash talk that appears in these posts.

i705

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:13:18 PM #
My local CompUSA in Towson, MD has it on display today. I played with it a liitle. I was very disappointed. It was obviously a silver painted plastic and the buttons felt horrible! I feel like Palm is going down the wrong road with handhelds like this one. I want a better screen (high res color OR monochrome), Palm V/Sony T-415 form factor, wireless connectivity, big memory and a professional looking device - one that doesnt feel like a toy!

RE: i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:23:16 PM #
Sony T615 was on display also at $400. The i705 was $449.99. The Sony T615 is a sweeet looking unit! Made me want to sell my T-415 (which just dropped $50 31 days after I got it!) and my old Vx to get one. Beautiful!!

RE: i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 9:42:19 PM #
What are the dimensions on this thing. It looks kind-of big in the pics

RE: i705
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/24/2002 10:51:58 PM #
Doesnt seem any bigger than the older 610/710. Fells thinner though. Again, I was NOT impressed with it at all.

REALLY OF TOPIC, SORRY BUT NEED HELP

cp31 @ 1/24/2002 11:02:19 PM #
I uninstalled/ reinstalled palm desktop on my windows xp computer, and it wotn re install. It says " An error occured while launching the setup. The remote procedure call failed" Help i need palm desktop back. by the way i installed palm desktop that came with my m505 and from palm website, both dont work. Also, i tried restarting my computer before installing ti and that didnt work. once again, sorry, but i need help and relzied a lot of person read this article. thanks


RE: REALLY OF TOPIC, SORRY BUT NEED HELP
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 9:09:50 AM #
why not post on the forums like regular people?

anyway, just call palm tech support or use palm's knowledge finder.

Me

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 10:19:20 AM #
Never, ever, ever doubt me.

ds
(the one who posted the Skywalker EVT2 prototype)

RE: Me
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 11:08:01 AM #
Doubt you.. maybe... trust you.. absolutely not. If you were able to obtain a photo of a prototype, then you probably have a NDA with your signature on it. The company trusted you to keep information a secret. You violated that trust.

Curious thing.. I was wondering when the prototype name changed.. or could there have been more then one to spot a leak? ;)

RE: Me
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 1:25:46 PM #
Actually, I obtained it through a series of people. I would never violate an NDA, and I love Palm, Inc. The i705 is an excellent model (I didn't mind giving up color during my run with it). I don't know why I posted the pictures in the first place, maybe out of excitement, maybe I thought the public had a right to know. I did it, though, and I think I'm sorry. Everything's settled, though, no harm, no foul with Palm. I'll be buying a production unit as soon as they come in, too.

ds

im?

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2002 3:39:28 PM #
do the instant messaging clients now work? (aol, icq, yahoo)

i705

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/27/2002 1:53:12 AM #
Anyone know why the Palm VIIx is $99 on the Palm store site?

I just purchased a couple of i705's. Yawn. I am now able to remote access my corp email without carrying my notebook everwhere including through airport security. Yawn.

As a computer user of over 25 years, this product is great, but you might have to be a shaker and baker to realize it.

Tried the so-called phone email. Worthless!

PalmParazzi

Bia @ 1/27/2002 9:53:42 AM #
Hm. It seems now Palm Inc. has a Paparazzi itself. The PalmParazzi. But maybe the photos taken from the new i705 are from a toy instead of a wireless device. Too bad.

Yeah that's nice ... but who's the girl ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/27/2002 1:48:05 PM #
I'm all engorged by the palm 7 whatever news and all
but what I'm not seeing here is info on the
courier chic... let's get what is important
down first... Ok.!


signed
Goon

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