Comments on: Palm Canada Passed on the i705

Actually, I think there may be some truth to your statement... What is the coverage, afterall?

Research in Motion (RIM) is based in Waterloo, Ontario and makes the Blackberry wireless email device. Like the VIIx and i705, it uses the Mobitex network and works fine in Canada.

I live in Toronto and I have owned a Palm VII since they come out. When checking for two
or so years on wireless capability I'm always told the problem is CRTC. I'd like to take
full advantage of the wireles capability of my now out dated Palm VII.

Actually, it seems fairly unconvincing within the US. Why bother with a mobile phone AND a Blackberry AND a Palm when you can have a mobile phone AND a Palm i705? Seems like a dumb question. Why not just buy a Treo?

I don't want an all-in-one device. I want to buy the cellular I want, and the PDA I want. I don't want to pay for a phone to get the PDA I want. And if I lose or break one, I don't want to be without the other. I also like my toaster and blender separate.

> But is he a Palm user?

Probably not. I was astounded when I read this Gartner report this morning. Gartner has often been accused of a strong pro-PPC, anti-Palm bias and I was amazed to read that it had anything good to say about the i705 at all.

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You're dead in the water in Europe with pretty much any wireless device from the United States. Since when is this news? We may as well start bashing the i705 for not coming with chopsticks, you'd be dead in Asia without them.

The point I was trying to make is that this is the only product that Palm developes that could not be sold to anywhere except the US. I therefore strongly disagree with the post that US wireless products have to be this way.

My Tri-band phone works anywhere in the world with the exception of probably Japan and Korea. If Palm really want to further develop its market share IN THE WORLD they need to come up with something that can be used anywhere in the World. Get it?

I just really hate "Know-It-Alls". Were you the annoying kid in school who always sat in the front and corrected other kids answers in class for the teacher???

I referred to it as "RIMM" because that is the company's STOCK SYMBOL. People often do this with MSFT, INTC, CSCO, etc. Please don't be so quick to correct other people - because you are not half as smart as you think you are. Thank you.

I called it RIM in a post last week and someone snottily told me the name of the company was RIMM.

>I just really hate "Know-It-Alls". Were you the
>annoying kid in school who always sat in the front >and corrected other kids answers in class for the >teacher???
>
>I referred to it as "RIMM" because that is the >company's STOCK SYMBOL. People often do this with >MSFT, INTC, CSCO, etc. Please don't be so quick to >correct other people - because you are not half as >smart as you think you are. Thank you.

Getting a little defensive, aren't we? Most people use stock ticker symbols to abbreviate the names of companies; since RIMM is longer than RIM an unbiased observer would have to conclude that you're either strange or lying. The guy who corrected you was giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you'd simply made a mistake.

We can only hope. Someone within Palm that can recognize their products are sucking air, amazing.

yeah! at leat somebody has guts!
the i705 is only for the US where the wireless industry is many years behind Europe and Japan

Whether its true or not, I see him leaving to "pursue other opportunities" in the near future. You don't diss your own company's products to a reporter. Remember Yankowski dissing the VIIx? Notice the way he was fired? Though not fast enough in my book.

Yes, very mature. Let's e-mail him and tell him what a dumb ass he is for voicing his opinion!

I tried a number of times to speak to a corporate sales agent on Monday re Canadian sales of the i705.

Dispite leaving a polite request for info, the agent did not bother to call back. Too bad, but now I understand why.

I'm really pissed about this, and will be leaving a polite message with the CEO (although I'm sure that there will be 50 flunkies screening the information) explaining why I feel that this is a bad idea.

The key is to spend five minutes and explain (voice or print) what the problem is. Calling someone a jerk - or worse-, even (especially) if I agree with the sentiment will be useless.

Well I managed to speak to the Canadian sales rep for Palm, and she just rehashed the company line. It's too slow and no one in Canada wants it and there is no network support.

I pointed out that it uses the same support as the RIM Blackberry, so she dropped that arguement, and went back to the fact that the RIMnet is too slow.

We went back and forth on this, but the upshot is that they have "been told" by their big corporate clients that they don't want the i705.

Unfortunately, no one asked me!

...off looking at Blackberries

the treo will be launched by two GSM carriers in Canada (take a guess).

I'm in the UK....we are not happy over here.
You have your gadgets in the shops over here. But nothing to support them.

The GPRS is coming. That's true. But at a price

The whole thing is a lot of promises from companies and little follow up....

They should get their fingers out of their *%$"* pretty fast, if you ask me....

hey....getting there. (me from uk again)
So you have the bluetooth phone....What about your handheld. What are you using?

I will get the sd-slot card as soon as it comes in the shops over here...(or anywhere else in the world).
Don't really understand why they went with that daft big board on the back from TDK. I wouldn't have that thing in my pocket.

Have people forgotten the beauty of handhelds already? You can fit it in any pocket and use it wherever you are.

the 705 just don't fit in with this philosophy. I want a sleek sexy machine which is USEABLE. Not some piece of %£$"&*^.....like the i705.

write back here palm-people, and maybe we can sort this thing out.
My m500 is fitting with the sleek sexy looks and is useable. I miss the bluetooth and other "wireless" appz.

Heeelp!!

Hey UK guy, I am currently using a Clie n760 and I imported the Japanese bluetooth module. However, it took me a week to figure out how the dratted driver works since it was in Japanese and I have an American Clie. Also, I find the module crashes regularly. Russell, that is how I envisoned it. I was in the Phillippines and Singapore a year ago. In those two contries its like a madness. Everyone has a phone, like you said, and they are constantly texting. I disagree that its the culture instead of the technology. I think its the tech. In the US we are fractionalized into non-cooperating standards. In fact every network type is represented here and has a decent percentage of wireless subscribers. In Asia as well as in Europe I believe, the GSM standard is, well, the standard. SMS takes off in the rest of the word because you can send text to practically anyone with a phone. Not to mention that even Voicestream, our leading GSM provider, dosen't allow me to text outside of the US. I have a cousin in the Phillippines who can text with her friend who lives in Montreal. When my aunt came to visit from Singapore her 8810 (I think that was the model) was roaming on Voicestream and she could text back and forth with her home. However I, as a Voicetream subscriber, cannot even text to Mexico. Go figure.

A very juvenile response coming from an "adult". Please don't make comments on the usefulness of technology you've never even used.

I use SMS all the time when I'm stuck in a meeting to coordinate with my staff. When GSM signal strength in patchy areas is too weak to get a clear voice connection, I send an SMS message that a person can clearly understand.

I think people here and in Europe have adopted SMS so well because they see the value in it. It's cheaper than a voice call, and for some things like sending a contact a phone number and the like, it's much easier than explaining by phone. It is funny that people here have taken so well to using a phone keypad to type, and even I thought that was a complete hassle before I got into using it, but it's just the same thing as learning to use Graffiti.

Always nice to hear from an idiot. You've got such pointless, empty headed things to say. And you've sprung some kind of leak. Must be from the big hole in your head.

> I can buy and sell you many times over, my friend.

Welcome to the 21st century.

It's nice to hear from living fossils and bigots.

FYI: Slavery has been banned in most countries of the world for over a 100 years.