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A news.com report mentions, Palm has been talking about another wireless handheld it plans to introduce in the fall. The device is expected to include voice service and utilize the GSM and GPRS networks and look more like a traditional handheld. The device will most likely utilize the TI OMAP processors that Palm announced in December.
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RE: Another wireless palm at the end of the year?
RE: Another wireless palm at the end of the year?
I'm sure you do not get attached to your burger the same way you get attached to your handheld.
You do not expect to spend money on a piece that is then surpassed just a year later.
Cars take a few years.
Computers can be opened up and upgraded
Burgers tasted good and have gone to belly
but
Palm will live on till you buy the next.
RE: Another wireless palm at the end of the year?
RE: Another wireless palm at the end of the year?
and you are speaking out of your ass!
who will buy the i705? well 13 000 people already have, so stop being such an idiot...
RE: Another wireless palm at the end of the year?
We all spend money on things that are "surpassed" in a year and in some cases less then a year. Computers, PDA's, Digital Camera, DVD players, etc are all things we buy and new and better ones are just around the corner. If you wait to buy the new wireless palm due out later this year, A new one will be coming out in 2003. You can not win.
RE: Another wireless palm at the end of the year?
On the one hand, a new product is launched to great acclaim with functionality that is in demand. It is however somewhat disingenuous for Palm to announce a more advanced product so early with production promised within the normal lifecycle of the existing product. Excepting the "must have's" one should question the purchase if the new Palm device.
Yes, we have become accustomed to fast product developments, but I find that it certainly delays my buying decisions if I hear of a more advanced model coming down the line in 6-8 months. I'll wait every time, until I absolutely need to buy, or until the value prospect is more easily defined.
For example, The last PDA I purchased was the REX-6000, for $120. It has paid for itself many times over and while I do not use it every day, it is invaluable to have in my wallet.
Of course it would be excellent to be able to read email on the move, but what we all want is a combined replacement for our phones & PDAs in one solution. Nobody minds if the next model isfaster or smaller if the original functionality has a defined value prospect.
I'm definitely going to wait until this combinationbecomes reality, other wise one would end up with technology in every pocket, with overlapping functionality.
Ranter
What a stupid announcement!
Isnt it stupid to announce a better i700 days after it was lauched? Now people who are planning to buy the 700 will wait for what the unseen device has to offer.
hmmmm unless services starts at $99
graph
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Scott
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Using both
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Bluetooth vs. 802.11b: And the winner is?
Thursday 7th February 2002
ZDNet UK staff
Palm rolled out its latest operating system, new hardware appeared and Bluetooth is promised. Palm's chief executive explains what the next steps are. A ZDNet UK News Focus
Palm using Bluetooth with it's New Software called Cambio: check the following Video
Streamed video: PalmSource unveils syncing software
Palm's OS company shows off an early version of its synchronization software, code-named Cambio, to PalmSource 2002 keynote attendees.
Palm OS 5 Preview
The Foundation for the future of Mobile Computing.
http://www.palmos.com/platform/os5/Palm_OS_5_backgrounder.pdf
http://www.palmos.com/platform/os5/
Palm Bluetooth Starts Here
Few technologies in recent memory have stirred up as much interest and speculation in the computer industry as Bluetooth. This wireless radio technology is intended to free mobile customers from the burden of cabled connections, while providing more connectivity options for handheld devices than ever before.
Bluetooth will connect Palm Powered® handhelds to a wide range of computing and telecommunications devices such as laptops, handheld computers, mobile phones, and network access points. From there customers can benefit from services such as data exchange, collaborative applications, the corporate network, or the Internet.
For more information, please download our Bluetooth whitepaper (PDF, 881kb)
http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/bluetooth/palm_bluetooth_mwp_r1.pdf
Why Bluetooth?
http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/bluetooth/
Bluetooth vs. 802.11b: And the winner is?
Dr. Jennifer Bray, Cambridge Silicon Radio
One can only put [Bluetooth negative press] down to worries and fears of business planners— given the recent downturn— and/or uninformed and under-researched reporters.
This may be a contentious headline for a column, but we in the RF community need to grab attention if a Bluetooth voice is to be heard above recent press focusing on hyping a Bluetooth vs. 802.11b "war." In fact, some people who should know better have even been quoted as saying Bluetooth is in full retreat. Retreat? Retreat from what? Whatever the case, some people lately are getting a real kick out of knocking Bluetooth, in favor of 802.11b. The real situation is that 802.11b and Bluetooth are highly complementary, as the following simple side-by-side contrast of the key differences portrays:
802.11b is a higher bandwidth standard optimized for rapid transfer of large amounts of data. Although voice can be sent (as compressed files), it's not ideal for audio. Bluetooth has a reasonable data transfer rate suitable for handling moderately sized data files, plus designed-for-purpose audio channel capability.
RE: Bluetooth vs. 802.11b: And the winner is?
and 802.11b is a whole different bucket of fish?!
RE: Bluetooth vs. 802.11b: And the winner is?
RE: Bluetooth vs. 802.11b: And the winner is?
Bluetooth is just a close-range cable-replacement protocol.
STUPID CONSUMERS!
We rant and rave when a new product comes out and say it is crap and moan and bich about it..........but.........heres the funny bit.......we go out anf buy them by the thousands.
And then we start moaning and bitching again when we notice that we knew the product was crap and would be bettered soon but still went ahead and bought it anyway!
Duh!
When will this madness end!?!
13,000 gone out, 4000 online sales? Thats like loads of PalmInfocenter readers and readers from other palm related sites who probably contributed to posts ripping the machine apart. WHY?! WHY BUY THEN?!
I hope they are all crying into their beers at the prospect of having their GREAT purchase being replaced.
When a company releases essentially the same machine a year later it is like saying "Hey first try was not what we wanted it to be, lets have another go"
Palm is different to Sony in this way.
Palm releases something and then betters it.
Thin small black and white expensive
Cute small black and white cheaper
Thin small color expensive
Cute small color cheaper
memory slot added to color
memory slot added to black and white
Fix thin color
Finally fix ancient wirless
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sony releases something to fill each and every price range and preference slot.
With mp3 thick expensive
Without mp3 thick cheaper
With mp3 thin (still to come)
Without mp3 thin
Black and white thin expensive
Black and white thick cheaper
Bluetooth and Wireless built in (still to come)
Bah my head is spinning now!
Tv
RE: STUPID CONSUMERS!
Wrong. It's not the PIC readers who are buying these, it's the ignorant user's who think that a higher number right away means it's better then anything else. I these low-end management types talking about how they have the best and always ask "Well 705 is higher than the 505 right?"
PIC readers know better. At least they should...
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Push email, stock quotes and trades. In fact it does more than I expected. I can even
access this site from it (as a pqa and through the browser). As for color
screen, mp3, and everything else. . . that would be cool if you could fit it in a device of the
same size and battery life. I carry this thing everywhere with me in my pocket.
I will enjoy this device for what it does for a long time, regardless of what new tech comes out.
If you are like me, and need a device to have constant access to your equity portfolio and email, you will
not be dissapointed by this device.
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News Editor
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Where does this come from ? Do you have a link for this information ?
Also, don't forget the actual sales between Palm and PPC.... percentage of PPC is much much smaller. PLUS the units are much more expensive than the Palm units...
RE: STUPID CONSUMERS!
...or, I guess they could be mostly kids with credit cards.
Scott
RE: STUPID CONSUMERS!
Really Slick Demo Running
It appears Palm put the time to good use with the demo that runs on the i705 at the Best Buy store I visited. It looks better than 160 by 160 resollution. The pictures and fonts were choosen VERY carefully to maximize the look.
I even wanted one for a minute and it I have absolutely no use for the features and wouldn't settle for mono again. But it really was a wonderful demo.
I look at lots of PDAs and they don't even have a picure to look at on the PPC or Palm to tell what the screen would look like. Do they want us to have to buy and return over and over just to see if we could use something at all?
The Palm looked really good, though and all the accessories available make it attractive even though I can't for the life of me think why someone would want an 1705 when they could have a Treo.
(Boy, will I get it for that last line!)
Timothy Rapson
RE: Really Slick Demo Running
Scott
RE: Really Slick Demo Running
i705 feels cheap and plasticy
Strong ?? Really ? People have 30 days to return right ?
RE: Strong ?? Really ? People have 30 days to return right ?
graph
RE: Strong ?? Really ? People have 30 days to return right ?
Just my perspective.
The trolls owe me $60
I dont need or want an electronic picture album.
I need to check my email when i'm on the the road. I need dependable wireless coverage to do a google search on a customer site in seconds, not the fluff that a Hi-res color screen has to offer. Its only in Hi-res mode when the application is written for Hi-Res. Guess how many apps there are.
If you want to show off the grandkids, the T-615 is for you.
If you think that GSM coverage will enable conectivity to your 505 via your GSM enabled phone (or the much anticipated mythical Treo), you better not get off the interstate, or leave the city, or work deep inside a big building ot be on the 48th floor or want it turn key or want it now or ...Cuz GSM in the USA is 1900 MHz *only*, someone else called it flakey, I would call it just plain undependable.
RE: The trolls owe me $60
even a 5 year old kid knows the T615 doesnt have
wireless capabilities!
..Another dumb Palm user..
RE: The trolls owe me $60
RE: The trolls owe me $60
> wireless capabilities!
Poor dump Palm losers... When most smart people enjoy their colorful and crystal clear screen of T615, all you can do is to stare at your DIM , PALE and MONO i705 screen, god bless you.
RE: The trolls owe me $60
RE: The trolls owe me $60
youre dumb!
return yourself to your mother!!
RE: The trolls owe me $60
The trolls seemed to be saying that that color is more important than wireless. So I wanted to see what could cause them to feel this way. It Seemed to me the 615 is just another PEG in the PDA evolution. But these Trolls are so adament, there must be something to what they are saying.
My mistake was I thought they knew something, as they seem so impressed by the Clie package. The jog wheel and the Hi-res color screen of the 615 makes up for the fact that it just another pretty PDA??? I don't understand discarding wirelss service for what I consider window dressing or racing stripes. Sure they look pretty but how does it help you get the job done. Sure monocrome is boring, however wiress sure isn't
RE: The trolls owe me $60
--??? gimme a break!!
Who cares about wireless?? Like most palm os users, I really don't need it.I have internet access at home and at work. you probably think that all of us have your same needs?
jeez..
Besides I find the i705 pathetic compared to the current standards, including the G3 service in Japan.
RE: The trolls owe me $60
it all depends on ones needs, if you need wireless of couse get a i7xx, for christ sake aren't you so stupid that u can't even make you own buying decisions ?? while u already have a very clear objective "I want wireless" but when you go to circuit city or whatever store u go to you picked up a clie T-series ??
RE: The trolls owe me $60
Incidentally, while only a small minority of Palm applications are written to take advantage of Sony's hi-res technology, the ones that are include some of the most useful applications to many of us here. Further, enabling hi-res assist (under Preferences) adds the hi-res capability to text in *most* Palm programs.
Next time, save yourself $60 and make your own decision.
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RE: The trolls owe me $60
its funny what deep-wallet-stupids do!
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A hi-rez color screen doesnt mean its a toy, don't be
narrow minded!, a color screen enhances readeability a lot, especially indoors.
I just bought a Clie T615 and to tell the truth after comparing it with the m505, side by side, the m505
looks like a toy, meaning that it looks like a downsized 615, so next time get your facts straight!
RE: The trolls owe me $60
LoL that only means you are rich and retard. there are so many things you could do with a clie, but no you have to use it as a mp3 player and remote control only... LoL, if that's not retard I don't know what is
RE: The trolls owe me $60
RE: The trolls owe me $60
I am really dumb, so from now on call me dumbass, totally not smart, absolutely the opposite of smart. But when I know what I need is wireless, I will go in a store and pickup a handheld that has wireless capability, unlike some really smart/intelligent people who bought a PDA with high res color screen and not wireless, then later finds out that he doesnt need high res color screen and that PDA doesnt have what he NEEDS and return it and pay restocking fee of $60 dollars, then come to palminfocenter and say people that say Clie T-series great are trolls and ask them to pay him back that 60 dollars restocking fee.
I am a generous person, sometimes I'll even give as much as 5 dollars to ppl on the street (if I got no change), but I think people should pay for their own stupidity....
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Another wireless palm at the end of the year?