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Visit www.PalmVenue.com - "Where Palm OS users and developers meet."
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"Mistakes" do happen, yer noe??? =)
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Or that PPC actually do suck!
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It's the *foundation*, silly
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What's wrong with that?
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My Palm is the universe... The universe is in my Palm...
RE: What's wrong with that?
Looks like they won't be getting any more $$ from Bill. LOL.
RE: What's wrong with that?
Letting someone else pave the way
I'm sure MS is glad that Palm's doing all the work. Once it's all proven:
"Hey! Look! Microsoft makes a type of Palm as well! Gee, I bet those would work even better with our school's Windows network! And wow! They're all color, and have more RAM!"
Gah.
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That's all they would do anyway. Either that, or find a way to download porn onto them. I would take bets as to how many Palms would end up stolen by "enterprising" students if they let them be used in schools.
Alas, ancient subjects like math, science, reading and writing are not sophisticated enough for the educational establishment. Bring in the Palms.
RE: Letting someone else pave the way
Gates Foundation Grant
I think that is bogus that Gate forced them to change the whole documentation and again force their competitor out.
By 2 cents.
Beggars can't be choosers
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They would have had Macs if BG would not have been such a greedy Monopolist. Ask yourself how BG got the cash in the first place before he could start to give it away.
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Look, a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, there were a bunch of dudes who lived in a town called "Troy". There were another bunch of dudes, called "Greeks", who they had difficulties relating to on a personal level. How can I put this? The Greeks were philanthropically challenged; they just didn't get along with the residents of Troy (who were called "Trojans") at all. So much so that the Greeks attacked the Trojans and besieged Troy for 10 years (NB we are not talking about a drive-by here). Then one day, all of a sudden, the Greeks seemed to give up. In fact, to show that there were no hard feelings, they left a gift for the Trojans - a giant sculpture of a horse. The Trojans thought that this was just great, they hauled the horse into their town and they celebrated their victory all day and night (they really partied hard). Early the next morning, 50 Greeks, who had hidden themselves in the horse, opened the town gates from within and let in their compadres. The Greeks really rocked and rolled; all the Trojans were killed.
The moral to this story is: beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
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I really don't see the problem with this, if bill Gates gave you the money to buy computers of course he can set conditions on how you are going to use those computers. You got the freedom to NOT accept the money, there's always freedom of choice. And I guess your wife's job is library trainer, it is her responsibility to write documentations, if she doesnt like the job then quit it.
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I'm all for Palm for offering the alternative. I wish we have a Palm equivalent in PC desktop. I would switch over in a second from my MS OS.
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They aren't trying to limit you from using Netscape because of some Bill Gates agenda. They provide support for these computers. They go to a LOT of trouble to set of profiles and policies to make a 'locked down' system that is safe to put in a library and that meets patrons' and librarians' needs alike. Certifying software to work in a locked-down enviornment like that is very difficult.
A lot of software doesn't properly support profiles (Palm Desktop included). So since the Gates Foundation provides support for these computers, are they expected to support EVERY third party application, even if it isn't going to 'play nice' with the rest of the machine?
Of course not. Corporate IT doesn't provide unlimited support third-party software, and neither should they be expected to. They may have money out the wazoo, but they aren't insane.
So cut them some slack. Melinda may have a huge office at the Foundation, but the Gates's are hardly involved in its day-to-day operations. Even if Microsoft went backrupt tomorrow, the Foundation has a big enough nest egg to continue to exist indefinitely. They don't exist to further Microsoft's agenda.
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Jobs: "Go and get an HP desktops and make sure you have Windows Media running on all of them!" LOL.
No good deed goes unpunished or unappreciated.
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Microsoft really hates it that so many students are exposed to the MacOS in the classroom. If they can just find a way to get the Macs out and Windows machines in, no one need ever see a non-Microsoft OS their entire life.
When dealing with Bill and co., you have to look out for the underhanded tricks. There's always a hidden catch when you're dealing with Microsoft. Once you've found the first one, keep looking because there's probably another.
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I'm interested in applying to the Gates Foundation as one of their Public Access Computer Trainers like your friend. I applaud the Foundation's efforts in bringing the technology to underserved parts of the USA. It's very much needed!
Several months ago my 13 year old nephew, who lives in Lancaster, CA expressed a interest in learning more about computers. I suggested that he sign up for some free classes at the local library or at a nearby community center since he didn't have access to a computer at home. He said there weren't any to sign up for.
After conducting my own online search for basic computer classes in Lancaster, I changed my search to just public use computers. That search was not very fruitful either. I now realize how truely blessed I am living in the Seattle area, where public computer access is available all over the place and classes offered regularly. I was suprised that there's not more resources available in Lancaster.
Hence my interest in applying to the Gates Foundation to help make Technology available to someone else's nephew or sister, grandmother or dad, etc. My passion drove me to sign up as a volunteer for TechCorpsWashington (helping to support schools), but I'd like to do more. I'd love to contact your friend (if that's at all possible) to learn more about the efforts from a frontline perspective. Thanks and off my soapbox now. :) Becca
Yeah, but what happens when they try to hotsync?
Why make fun..
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his dad
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Wait...
if PalmOS dies before Linux is mainstream as a PDA OS, MS would have a monoply and then the lawsuits because of it...
You people are sad
MS maybe shady in the business world, but leave his and his wifes charitable donations alone. There donations are an enormous help to many causes.
Take off the rose colored glasses
> donations it to MS sales and has ulterior motives?
Yes, I think this. The man is a weasel. While he donates a large amount of money, it's a tiny percentage of his income. Wherever possible, he uses these donations to try to get Microsoft products more marketshare. Remember that his proposed settlement for the antitrust case against Microsoft was to convert all U.S. schools to Windows? Maybe calling him a weasel is too nice. I think "snake" is a better word.
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