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Some educated guesses can be made just from the name of the new handheld. Obviously, this will be part of the T series. Almost all of the handhelds Sony has introduced lately have had 16 MB of RAM.
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I too have a Sony MD Player and wondering how the battery life on the 760 is when playing music, PIM stuff, etc. This release could be a killer release.
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really supported much by other developers.
I don't understand why Sony/Ericcsson doesn't
just make a Clie-GSM phone.
Now THAT I'd buy in an instant.
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The communication of the Handspring Treo mixed with the high-resolution screen, MP3-player, and memory-expansion of the Clie series?
Good Lord, I hope someone from Sony sees that post. I'd pay a great deal for something that incredible! I'm sick of feeling like Batman with all these devices on my belt.
Oh, and I know that the Visor Prism with the VisorPhone is close, but I don't like that you have to pull the Visor out of the case, remove the cell-phone module, and plug in the memory module to access documents. I should be able to plug in a memory card and forget about it.
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James Sorenson
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IT'S NOT NEW PALMS, IT'S NEW PHONES!!!!!!!
Posted by: I.M. Anonymous @ 3/8/2002 1:07:35 PM
PLEASE LOOK AT THIS WESITE
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cebit/
Sorry folkes,
(Wah Wah)
These are the only new ones they are offering!
What more could you want?
RE: What more could you want?
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News Editor
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RE: What more could you want?
Virtual Grafitti? I doubt it. It would be odd to do that in the middle of a series of handhelds.
Better buttons? I doubt it - I assume it'll have the same form factor as the rest of the T-series.
MP3 - given the naming similarity - this seems probable.
Bluetooth - could be - many other EU Sony products have builtin bluetooth.
66Mhz chip - well - the N7X0 series has always been the bigest best Clie - so I guess this is a maybe...
The form-factor previewed at PalmSource? (the long screen / flip top). Well - it would kick ass. It would probably also have virtual graffiti given the longer screen.
Personally I hope it's not too good - I can't aford to upgrade just yet! :-S
Cheers
Russell
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RE: What more could you want?
MS
When the Ericsson BT phone is in my hands - will sony be ready with the Infostick??
RE: MS
BT spec
RE: MS
Over here in the EU there are loads of phones with BT in them (Nokia 6310, /// R520m, T39, T68), and most of them can be got for under 100 euros on a contract.
Also Sony has got BT into many other EU products - laptops and cameras... it's about time it came to the Clie!
The InfoStick hasn't appeared in Japan - but there a clip-on device for one of the Clie series to add BT functionality.
Cheers
Russell
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russ@russb.fsnet.co.uk
RE: MS
I'm on my second bluetooth phone (first T39, now T68) and am already planning to replace it with another SonyEricsson bluetooth phone. Yet, still no Palm os pda with integrated bluetooth.
RE: MS
Sony Bluetooth Infostick receives BT Qualification/Palm
But he also said: "2002 is going to be the year for Bluetooth," Christopher said.
Palm Bluetooth (SD) card cuts wires
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t294-s2104780,00.html
Sony Bluetooth stick soon here?
By: Jørgen Sundgot, 05.02.02 11:00
Sony has just recently gained qualification from the Bluetooth SIG for a product referred to as the "Infostick", which is a name that was mentioned back when Sony started promising a Bluetooth Memory Stick expansion module back in late 2001. However, the Infostick is listed under the product category Comp-HW-Integrated, which could indicate that the module is also targeted to be an integral part of new products from Sony - which again could indicate handhelds in the CLIE series showing up with integrated Bluetooth, particuarly with Sony's current pace of churning out new models.
http://www.infosync.no/news/newsbits/show.php?id=1404
Bluetooth Qualified Product: Infostick Infostick Sony Corporation Components Comp-HW-Integrated 2002-01-30
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/Template.cfm?LinkQualified=QualifiedProducts&Details=Yes&ProductID=603
3 Sony Bluetooth Products have been Qualified recently:
-Modem Adaptor with Bluetooth Function BTA-NWP Sony Corporation Computer accessory PROD 2002-03-04
-Chatpen CHA-30 KRY 10 50 15 Sony Ericsson Handheld devices PROD 2002-03-01
-PEGA-MSB1 HCCBTHA11 Sony Corporation Accessory PROD 2002-02-28
http://qualweb.opengroup.org/Template2.cfm?LinkQualified=QualifiedProducts
Memory Stick gets SanDisk boost
http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=570
Bluetooth for the CLIEs
http://www.infosync.no/show.php?id=447
The Memory Stick and Secure Digital cards are quite important for two key reasons. The most obvious is its small size. This allows vendors who use it to create devices that can be smaller.
But another key reason is that with large industry backing, which includes the inclusion of a Memory Card or SD card reader in everything from laptops to VCRs, DVDs, TVs, MP3 players and even next generation integrated home entertainment consoles, these cards can be used to transfer data among these mostly incompatible devices and in a way serves as a data transfer common denominator.
http://www.anywhereyougo.com/bluetooth/Article.po?id=2307977
ZDNet probably made a mistake
Phil
Oldenburg, Germany
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Als weitere Highlights der Messe preist Sony Memory Sticks mit 256 MByte Kapazität an sowie den Clie T 770 als einzigen PDA, dessen Infrarot-Schnittstelle zur Steuerung von Fernseher, Hifi-Anlage oder Garagentor geeignet ist.
My translation (just a try):
As other highlights of the fare (CEBIT) Sony praises a Sony Memory Stick with 256 MByte capazity and the Clie T 770 as the ONLY PDA thats infrared port allows you to controll a tv-set, a sound system and a garage door.
The fact that they write "the only PDA with an enhanced infrared..." shows at least that they never heard of the T625C.
Phil
RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
Probably happened like this:
"following on from the color N770 - sony will be showing a nother color hi res model the T625"
The guy who wrote the report got mixed up and remembered the letter T and the number 770.
Trust me SONY.DE are always well behind the times... I live in Germany and we the T625 only just made it into the shops this week.
They have NO NEW CLIES to premiere at Cebit, I am sure of that.
RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
Sony usually release the domestic model (Japanese) first before it release the model for anything else. That has been true for N series as well as T series.
Perhpas more likely labels would be T755 for Japan, T765 for US and T775 for Europe?
RE: ZDNet probably made a mistake
1 - control a TV - Infrared
2 - IS a music system
3 - control garage doors - Bluetooth?
hehe... wishful thinking maybe...
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:-)
i'd go with it....
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Can't wait....
T Series Memory
Wireless?
I know they made that one wireless thing that was some sort of adaptor for a wireless PC Card modem for the greyscale Clie, but I haven't heard of anything for the color Clies.
I would buy a Clie in a second if there was a good wireless option for it.....currently I have a Palm Vx with an OmniSky wireless modem, but I would really like to move to something more modern.
Has anyone heard anything?
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Thanks, Robrecht
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I think I may wait until the color Handspring treos come out though, and see what kind of option that may be.
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just my 2 cents
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Stupid Sony.
RE: Wireless?
This is exactly what I did during the weekend, and I'm very happy with my decision.
The minstrel 500 series is even better (and lighter) than the V model, and the 515 screen is the best Palm color screen ever. I could simply continue my verizon wireless plan at $24.75 per month for unlimited access, the best deal on the market as far as I know.
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Could this be....?
To me, it would almost have to be, otherwise the unit would be the same as the 615 but with built-in mp3. The older 610/710/760 fiasco caused a lot of confusion, as the 7xx models were identical to the 610 but included mp3 playback.
I think sony almost has to up the ante to distungish their products from one another. If they want to compete with the PocketPC, they're gonna need to add more horsepower.
Your thoughts?
RE: Could this be....?
N760C is nearly perfect
1) 16 MB RAM instead of 8 MB.
2) Enhance IR port.
3) Vibrating alarm.
4) Better scroll buttons.
It's nice & small (OK, maybe they come even smaller now, but it's fine for me as is). Of course a faster CPU would be great, but they aren't shipping those in any Palm OS handheld yet.
This new model would have to have everything that's good about the N760C plus at least 3 of the above 4 things for me to consider selling my unit to buy it.
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Also, the you can overclock to what SEEMS like 54 MHz but in actuality what reads as 54 MHz may be slower than what reads as 40 MHz. I own AfterBurner and have run tests of an overclocked app's clock versus a real clock and at some point (around 41 MHz on my N760C) overclocking "more" results in an overall SLOWDOWN.
The whole over-overclocking topic has been widely discussed among dozens of experts in the computer chess field (including the programmers of the top chess programs for the Palm).
New Clie
Swivel display, allows usage either micro keyboard in a motorola startac design, or you can swivel the screen to have only the TFT virtual display showing.In-Built CCD 320x320 Camera,Bluetooth (Unconfirmed) looks like infostick. €799 SRP :(
Time is running out...
RE: Time is running out...
CeBIT is in Mid March, and isn't Palm Source in Japan in late March (can someone verify)? Not likely they will spoil the Japan show thunder by jumping the gun in Europe - that is not like Sony.
Whatever it is it will be incremental, probably to help move existing inventory - so I figure any short term release from Sony will be a 16MB upgrade to the N760C with some potential enhancement to the IR port.
They've probably got a LOT of inventory, and will not be able to get rid of it all through the outlet channels (BTW - www.online-sony.com has the N760C for $344 USD).
RE: Time is running out...
My predictions
- It will be B&W (hence the lack of the "C" in the name)
- It will have MP3 playback capabilities built-in
My reasoning is as follows. Adding MP3 into the thin T-series form-factor will require more battery life than the color T-series can currently provide. Remember, too, that adding MP3 may mean adding additional components as well, leaving even less room for the battery and sucking even more power (due to added components).
Additionally, by adding MP3 to the T-series, they will now be able to retire the N-series. While this may be bad news for N-series owners, it will be good news overall as it will mean that they now have one standard connector and form factor. Expect the T-series CF-sled to be released in the US as well.
Scott
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> overall as it will mean that they now have one standard connector and form factor.
I don't see how this could be a good thing, and the S360 still has a different connector than the T-series anyhow. By fall, Sony will probably have another connector.
> Expect the T-series CF-sled to be released in the US as well.
Very unlikely.
Where is the Innovation?
All they've done in the past year is bring out "new" models which used the same screen and processor. They just add more ram and put it in a new casing.
All you sony people should be real proud because anytime some other company comes out with a product all you say is: "where's the innovation, where's the Hi-res, blah blah blah."
Yet your SONY hasn't come out with anything REVOLUTIONARY in the past 6 months. What's going on here? All the Sony R&D and no new products. I won't back a company that chooses to lag behind its competitors under the guise of "Hi-Res". PPC has had hires for years now. It's nothing special. Palm still doesn't have it and they outsell all other manufacturers COMBINED.
So why don't you guys quit your yapping and WAIT for Sony to INNOVATE. (I hope you're Patient)
Also, by the way, I am a Sony Clie owner (N610) before you think I'm some PPC guy....I may go back to Palm soon for a M515.
Later Skaters
RE: Where is the Innovation?
LoL I really don't see the reason behind this.
You complain about how sony has innovate in the past 6 months, how about this, Sony wrote new applications for Clie that's actually graphical ? that's actually looks cool and works great ? Sony broght Clie to the level of multimedia capability close to the competition but not quite there yet because of the underpowered dragonball CPU.
And where has Palm been for the last 3 X 6 months ? writing new applications for palm OS or developing hardware ?? Yeah they released M515 which is a great handheld that they should've released 1 year ago. New applications ? I don't see any. Cleaning up the API for the release of PalmOS 5 ? I really don't see that either.
RE: Where is the Innovation?
If brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose.
Sony has crammed a 320x320 16 bit display, long range IR (with remote software), and decent sound into a slim, 4.8 ounce package. Also, the display is a new backlit/reflective hybrid that no other PDA has (that I know of).
Sure, I want 480x320 (a faster CPU wouldn't hurt either). And the T615 has many imperfections (buttons suck, poor battery life, display has bluish tint). But it *is* innovative.
Remember, almost all other newer model Palms (and newer model PPCs) are still using the same CPUs and screen resolutions as last year's models.
but when can i *buy* it?
So, hypotehetically speaking, if Sony were to unveil this model next week, would anyone care to speculate when it would be available in the US market?
thanks! ~tara
It's also possible that ZDNet Germany IS correct...
I am a digital camera afficionado. Last year, prior CeBIT, Sony listed their CeBIT product lineup on their Sony Germany page.
There was a lot of buzz about the new DCS-707 digital camera. However, on Sony's Germany webpage, the 707 was not listed. No mention whatsoever.
Needless to say, Sony 'surprised' everyone by introducing their new, top of the line digicam.
So, as the header states, possibly, possibly not. But they're not beyond playing a little cloak and dagger.
I guess we'll see on the 13th.
Palm 515
We want to develop mobile appliactions for Palm515 Model. How we can develop the style sheets etc. whereas we have established SMS connectivity via Infrared via mobile Set.
Can you tell us about some demo applications also.
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Sony Clie T760 is great!!
Sony
Clie T760
is great
is easy to use
is a MP3 player
can convert into a digital still camera (w/attachment)
Overall is great and easy to use.
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Slim Factor + MP3 Player
Hopefully it would be more interesting thatn that, but then again...