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Almost lost in the furor over its new handhelds, Sony also announced the PEGA-MSB1 Bluetooth Memory Stick adapter today. This will allow Sony's handhelds to wirelessly connect to Bluetooth-enabled mobile phones to check email and even surf the Web. It can also connect to other peripherals like printers as long as they use Bluetooth as well. The MSB1 will be available in Japan on March 23. A price hasn't been released yet. It is not yet known when it will be available in other countries.
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Sweet...

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:11:55 PM #
I've been waiting over a year for a bluetooth card for a device - bought a Clie T615 at Palmsouce since I knew this baby was coming - have bluetooth for my laptop, can't wait...

Not so sweet (for N610c's)
jjsoh @ 3/11/2002 3:14:34 PM #
Of course, all those N610c owners who just missed the mark by tenth of an upgrade (Palm OS 4.0) will be missing out on the opportunity to use bluetooth.

Even N710c owners have the chance to upgrade their OS to 4.1, why not N610c owners? Any word on whether or not Sony will ever be releasing an upgrade option for this model?

This is sad considering how much Palm vocally denied any significant differences between OS 4.0 and 4.1. Does anyone know the specs on the SD bluetooth and how it might affect Palm OS 4.0 and 4.1? Or am I missing something here?

RE: Sweet...
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:23:38 PM #
I wish sony would say when it will be available
in US.

And interesting enough, Fry's here run out of
BlueTooth SD now. So my m515 won't get
a BT card anyway for a while. Tough decision
to make if I should return my m515.

RE: Sweet...
jjsoh @ 3/11/2002 3:30:19 PM #
Sorry to confuse you all, but the whole slashdot effect today has thrown me off. Anyway, I guess I just missed the first post stating that bluetooth does in fact support OS 4.0. Makes me wish I could take back my post.

Can it be verified if OS 4.0 supports bluetooth and not only 4.1, Ed? Thanks.


Jim

RE: Sweet...
Xian @ 3/11/2002 3:36:58 PM #
My m505 uses the Palm SDIO BT card just fine with OS 4.0. Should be the same for the Sony BT MS since they are using the Palm BT stack.

RE: Sweet...
Ed @ 3/11/2002 4:16:31 PM #
> Can it be verified if OS 4.0 supports bluetooth and not only 4.1, Ed? Thanks.

I think I was mistaken about the 4.1 requirement. See my comment above.

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News Editor

RE: Sweet...
jjsoh @ 3/11/2002 5:55:19 PM #
Thanks guys for the info. ^_^

I'm looking forward to plopping in an SD BT card when it comes out here in the states. It would be nice to get rid of all these cables.

RE: Sweet...
aps_27 @ 11/1/2003 9:42:50 PM #
hi, i'd like to ask if the bt card is compatible with my palm zire 71c. thanks

OS 4.1???

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:07:37 PM #
The japanese site (http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/products/Consumer/PEG/Acc/PEGA-MSB1/index.html) does not explicitly say that the Bluetooth MemoryStick only supports OS 4.1. It is indicated that the following units are supported: PEG-NR70V ENR70 ET600C ET400 EN750C EN600C EN700C* - *: However compatibility for the N700C (~N710C) is only given if upgraded from OS 3.5 to OS 4.1!

Since the N600C (as well as my N610C) runs under 4.0S (http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-N600C/) it should work with this version as well.

RE: OS 4.1???
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:21:03 PM #
I think BlueTooth requires OS 4.0 to use.


RE: OS 4.1???
Ed @ 3/11/2002 4:12:06 PM #
I've just realized that the fact that the S series isn't listed on this site doesn't mean it isn't compatible. The S series isn't available in Japan at all so it isn't going to appear on this Japanese page no matter what. We'll have to wait and see when the U.S. announcement comes.

In any case, I think I was mistaken when I said OS 4.1 was required. As someone correctly pointed out, the N600C uses OS 4.0 and it is listed as being compatible. I've edited the article and sorry for any inconvenience..

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News Editor

RE: OS 4.1???
rldunn @ 3/11/2002 4:29:30 PM #
The S300 had a Japanese version and the S500, the first color Clie, was ONLY available in Japan. Of course, they're not available now, but just wanted to clarify.

Is Bluetooth overrated?

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:22:56 PM #
I don't know much about Bluetooth, but it seems like with so little support for it now it isn't really much to get excited about.

What I would like to be able to do with a PDA is get on the net and use ICQ or a web browser from anywhere..i.e. in the mall, in the park, coffee shop. But since Bluetooth has such a short range, it looks like this will not be possible.

Rather than Bluetooth, I think they ideal method of connectivity is always-on internet access, something like the i705 or Blackberry but with much higher bandwidth and not as restrictive as to what internet applications you can use on the PDA (and of course cooler looking, like the new Sony).

I think Bluetooth would be good for connecting to your home network from your PDA, but then again if you were at home why not just put the PDA down and walk the 10 feet to your computer. That's what I would do.

RE: Is Bluetooth overrated?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:38:27 PM #
you do not understand bluetooth. Bluetoth is not about connecting to the net. It's about being able to replace cables and wires and other crap, and do it all wirelessly.

So if you have a PDA with Bluetooth, and a Phone with Bluetooth, and a Laptop/desktop computer with Bluetooth. THey will all communicate without you doing anything.

For what you want you would need a cell phone with bluetooth. THen whenever you want to be online you would just pull out your PDA and hit a connect button. It would send a signel to your phone and connect without you touching your phone. Then you would have your internet connection.

This is personally what I want. I have not been impressed by and PDA/Phone combo, the i705 is interesting, and closer to what i want. But i would have to also ahve my cell phone.

There is much more possable with bluetooth, but that I think is what you would be the most interested in.

RE: Is Bluetooth overrated?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:07:38 PM #
darn, if you don't know whats Bluetooth, please don't make comments.
sheez!!

RE: Is Bluetooth overrated?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:35:24 PM #
Iīm a couch potato. I would surf the web lying on my bed connected to my PC-DSL via Bluetooth. I could also sync and update records, I could use a cell phone, throwing away all damn cables! There are also hands-free for use with the cell phones that take advantage of Bluetooth: no wires... :-), etc., etc...

RE: Is Bluetooth overrated?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 7:50:09 PM #
Well, the RANGE issue is the most misunderstood part about Bluetooth. This BT memory stick is most likely a "low" power device which puts its range from 'stick to 'stick at 10m. When talking to a high power device, like some Bluetooth LAN Access Points, the range is 100m. Yes - 100m. I saw this demo'd at PalmSource. There was a company there called Piconet Inc or Pico.net (or something like that) that had this kind of product. So, your model of using your Clie at Starbucks, surfing the web, IS possible.

RE: Is Bluetooth overrated?
rigter @ 3/12/2002 4:31:24 AM #
Please do make comments if you're not exactly sure what bluetooth is.
We're all here to share info and learn, not to show off knowledge.

Cheers,
Jan

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One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse.
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RE: Is Bluetooth overrated?
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 3:10:09 PM #
I have a pico bluetooth internet access point, palm m515, and toshiba/palm bluetooth sd card.

I can connect to our corporate LAN through walls and get approx 100-125 ft range (radius) from the access point.

I have used eduora web and blazer to surf the net. Overall, the experience has been very good. It is a bit faster than the omnisky modems with WAN service.

I found it to be approx. 30-40% slower than my Toshiba Genio with Socket 802.11b CF card and our 802.11b network.

I wonder if the throughput is more a function of processor on PDAs than on the actual wireless network (at least at current data transfer needs).

Next up will be to test the iPaq with built-in bluetooth on our corporate network via Picoblue.

The above said, I will probably end up carrying Palm OS with bluetooth to access our LAN because of my preference of Palm OS, very slim form factor,and low energy requirements of bt.

FYI

list of bluetooth-compatible phones?

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:28:22 PM #
Anyone know where I can find a list of bluetooth-compatible phones for use here in the U.S.?

Thx

RE: list of bluetooth-compatible phones?
Xian @ 3/11/2002 3:38:19 PM #
They aren't available from any carriers that I know of, so you'd have to buy it separately. The Ericsson T39 and T68 phones are BT compatible. And you can actually get a BT add on for the Ericsson T28 World phone as well.

RE: list of bluetooth-compatible phones?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:59:52 PM #
I know Verizon Wireless has the Timeport 270C which has a bluetooth option. I just ordered mine for my phone. Also has the bluetooth headset packaged with it. Should be neat when I get the BT stick for my 615C.

RE: list of bluetooth-compatible phones?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:01:29 PM #
the Ericsson T68 is available from ATT wireless

RE: list of bluetooth-compatible phones?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 12:35:48 AM #
T68 is GSM. ATT only offer GSM service on some states

RE: list of bluetooth-compatible phones?
rigter @ 3/12/2002 4:48:37 AM #
Surf to http://www.nokia.com/bluetooth for a list of nokia models.

Cheers,
Jan

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One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse.
*/

RE: list of bluetooth-compatible phones?
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/17/2002 6:46:44 PM #
You could use the Ericsson T68, T39 and then you can use any GSM provider in the US... The biggest GSM provider a year ago was Voicestream, but Verizon's network could have grown since then... Also, the T68i was just announced as well as a new Sony model... All of these phones support Bluetooth.

Any 1900Mhz GSM phone (most tri-band GSM models support this frequency) will work with any US GSM provider. Take a look at http://www.expansys.com for a lot of GSM and bluetooth gear...

Happy Bluetoothing...

bad timing for Sony to end their 710 upgrade program

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:27:16 PM #
There's another article on this site about that, but Sony's program to upgrade the 710 to OS 4.x ends within the next few days.

RE: bad timing for Sony to end their 710 upgrade program
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:18:10 PM #
Sony stopped selling the N710C months and months ago. They can't have techs sitting around and waiting for all the slow-pokes to finally get around to upgrading.

RE: bad timing for Sony to end their 710 upgrade program
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 4:06:13 AM #
Yeah, and Palm is providing OS 4.1 for devices many years old. The point was now that there is a very good reason to upgrade (this card), the upgrade is going away. Most people probably didn't even know the upgrade was available in the first place.

Bluetooth Speed

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 3:58:25 PM #
How fast will the average speed be? For instance, ill a sync via BT be the same or faster vs. Serial Cable. And vs. USB cradle?

I read somewhere that someone was using BT with his 505 to surf the web and it was slow as schitt.

RE: Bluetooth Speed
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:02:17 PM #
Just to get an idea how slow schitt is, how fast does schitt move?

How fast schitt is
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:07:10 PM #
'pends on how much ya ate fer dinner, and how far away the outhouse is.

RE: Bluetooth Speed
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:31:59 PM #
RE: Bluetooth Speed
bcombee @ 3/11/2002 4:36:50 PM #
Bluetooth speeds aren't fast. The theoretical maximum is about 1MB/s, but actual BT transfers at PalmSource were going in the 200-300KBps range. In using Cambio with BT enabled Palm m505's, it seemed like it was faster than IR with less latency, but its not going to beat USB sync speeds. It may be competitive with serial sync speeds, depending on the noise in your radio environment.

CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
RE: Bluetooth Speed
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 6:26:49 PM #
I have HotSynced my 770C with the PEGA-BT700 and a PC with a Bluetooth card.

It was much slower than USB and slower than serial. I dont recall the exact figures but about twice as long to HotSync than with a serial cable.

I am guessing the extra time is for the bluetooth coding. If the processor were higher than 33 Mhz of course it would be faster and eventually reach the bluetooth transfer rate limit. I believe I read something in the specs for the PEGA-BT700 about its (theoretical) max speed being around 40 kB/s.

The PEGA-BT700 is connected thru the "serial port". I dont know if it is faster/slower than the Memory Stick port. My guess would be that MS is slower though (?)

RE: Bluetooth Speed
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 7:54:37 PM #
Lets look at the other options you have for surfing the web:
1. CDPD modem (19.6kbps?)
2. Wifi sled from Xircom (30kbps - yes it is - I have one)
3. Wireline modem (20-30kbps? I've been told it is this slow despite the 56k)
4. Bluetooth SD card connected to GPRS phone or Bluetooth Access Point (40kbps)

Take your pick. Do you really need any more than 20kbps on a Palm?

RE: Bluetooth Speed
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 4:04:20 AM #
> The PEGA-BT700 is connected thru the "serial port".

If it is connected through the serial port, it is no wonder you are getting slower than serial speeds. The Memory Stick slot has a considerably faster data rate.

RE: Palm's SDIO
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:54:04 PM #
That's great but what do I connect it with here in the US? Another Palm and play Tic Tac Toe??

RE: Palm's SDIO
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 4:56:26 PM #
3Com and others have been selling Bluetooth PC Cards for months, so you can sync with your PC, there are several Bluetooth enabled cell phones for sale now and more coming, so you can go on the internet, dial a cell phone call from your palm or send a short message (SMS).

RE: Palm's SDIO
Xian @ 3/11/2002 6:02:47 PM #
Tic Tac Toe over BT? Where do I get that?

RE: Palm's SDIO
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 6:17:26 PM #
Within a few months, many BlueTooth games will be
available.
You can bet on this.

ted

RE: Palm's SDIO
volcanopele @ 3/11/2002 7:34:51 PM #
I will agree that over the next year, a lot of games that have a two-player IR mode and are actively updated will include Bluetooth functionality.

Jason

RE: Palm's SDIO
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 5:52:06 AM #
At PalmSource they were saying a Bluetooth chipset had hit the $5 mark; the SD BT card costs $125...

Maybe its best to wait for devices with BT built-in!



Bluetooth MS and ATT T68

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 6:37:17 PM #
I just got my Bluetooth ATT Ericsson/Sony T68 this weekend. I just knew they would be rolling out the MS some time. Yea. For now I am trying to get a 505 with SD Bluetooth card to talk to the phone... anyone had any luck with this? Where can I find any info on getting these to talk and the net on my Palm.
Get this working... then I'm ready for one of those new Sony devices with bluetooth for sure! Or at least a T615 and this new MS. Sorry Palm, Sony really has this stuff figured out.

RE: Bluetooth MS and ATT T68
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 7:48:21 PM #
RE: Bluetooth MS and ATT T68
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 7:48:21 PM #

Where city are you located? I think the T68 is only available on the West Coast in the "test" GPRS AT&T area? Seattle?

Thanks! and Portland
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/11/2002 11:12:31 PM #
Thanks for the link... and our office is in Portland. A couple of us in the office jumped on the Palm bluetooth, but most of the team is waiting for the Sony version.

RE: Bluetooth MS and ATT T68
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/17/2002 6:53:02 PM #
Also, checkout http://www.expansys.com to get the T68, they ship to the US.

New to Bluetooth. Let me get this straight about this MS

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 11:37:31 AM #
If I install the MS blue tooth card into my 760 or whatever, I can connect and transfer data to my PC(blue tooth enabled), printer (BT enabled), etc.. Correct?

So then in order to run whatever I need, I need to fill up my ROM/RAM with the proggies/DB's because anything that is stuffed on the Mem Stick is pointless once I take it out and plug in the BT module.

Or.....does the BT module have a MS plugin so that I can still run my apps or print my DB's off the MS?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a dumb ques. New to all these items.

RE: New to Bluetooth. Let me get this straight about this MS
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 12:43:08 PM #
it's not a dumb question, this was on my mind ever since the rumours about the BT stick started to linger. i find it very amusing that a lot of people with the Clie are dying to get their hands on the BT stick, or are very concern about the date of release, and mind you, i am very interested in the BT, not the BT stick from Sony because it's useless if i have to take out my MS stick which i have pretty much EVERYTHING store in there, and use the BT stick. what's the point? sure, you can sync while you are walking into you room where your pc is, but say you have avantgo in your MS, then what???
people, i am not trying to start a fight, but all these hype about the BT stick pointless unless our Clie have 2 MS slot. so in my point of view, the best route to go with BT for our Clie is the PEGA-BT700, which attached to the bottom of the Clie.

RE: New to Bluetooth. Let me get this straight about this MS
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 2:36:36 PM #
I just want to do some e-mail and simple PQA browsing with the BT stick. I have to imagine it's just fine for that.

RE: New to Bluetooth. Let me get this straight about this MS
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 3:15:50 PM #
well we aren't going to send and recieve movie files or anything big with other pcs like that..

Just doing simple browsing.. syncing with phone, like maybe ringtones or background pictures, contacts, scedules etc..

MSB1/Infostick different

akimbo @ 3/12/2002 9:38:44 PM #
i don't think it's accurate to suggest that sony have apparently dropped infostick as the name of their bluetooth memorystick. if you check out the qualified products section of the www.bluetooth.com website, you'll notice that sony have 2 different products. one which qualified on jan 30, product name: infostick. the other qualified on feb 28, product name: pega-msb1. i've got a horrible suspicion that the clie accessory will only be compatable with clie products. it is, after all, labelled clie gear, just like all the other accessories such as the camera, gps, etc. which too are only compatable with the clie...it is however, good to know that the infostick is qualified as a bluetooth product now and hopefully on its way soon. maybe we'll see it at CeBIT - again.

sony! you got to do better!

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/15/2002 4:58:13 AM #
the bluetooth memory stick is a step in the right direction, but the sony pda's will start rockin' only when sony fits a wireless module in that memory stick bay.

waitin' for that.

regs
ash.

RE: sony! you got to do better!
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/26/2002 10:06:46 AM #
It would be real nice if they had two memory stick slots so that you could leave the Bluetooth adapter in one all the time and use the other with regular memory sticks. (MP3's etc.)

So when are where can I buy one?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 4:46:29 PM #
Does anyone know if these have started shipping yet? What about in Japan? Can Japanese users confirm that they GUI/config for the card is in (or at least will install) in English?
RE: So when are where can I buy one?
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/10/2002 1:34:35 PM #
http://www.expansys.com

I just got mine delivered..however, all the manuals and the software cd is in Japanese...a little info that expansys doesn' tell you...I am looking all over for the software in english...no luck yet....

RE: So when are where can I buy one?
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/18/2002 3:08:07 AM #
there is no english software at the moment.
But it isnīt very hard to install all necessary files to the clie. Just browse the cd with explorer, all directories you need can be read in english. use sync wizard to drag and drop all the .prc files to the clie exept the .jp files. then everything works fine :).

The BT stick works with all clies running 4.1

RE: So when are where can I buy one?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2002 12:24:31 PM #
I guess my question is more basic. I've been looking at the memory stick for quite some time on expansys but it appears that this stick will only communicate with a mobile device and not my WAP and has very short distance limitations. Is anyone using one to connect their Clie to the internet
RE: So when are where can I buy one?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/28/2002 11:41:43 AM #
I bought one and had it installed in Hong Kong since all the drivers are in Japanese. Works great with my Ericsson T39. I can take pictures and send them or regular emails with my Clie NR70V with my phone in my pocket. No need for an extra SIM card. Very useful, especially with the the Clie keyboard.

Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1

xyombie @ 4/16/2002 9:04:01 PM #
I just got the PEGA-MSB1 bluetooth module to use with my sony clie n760c. It works!!! However, I was a little nervous at first. All of the docs and programs are in japanese. I am in the U.S, and I only speak English, therefore, this was a major hurdle to get over. Basically, out of the box, the bluetooth module will NOT work. You must install a bunch of .prc files. I went through the installation program by pressing buttons with fancy pictures (japanese). The programs appeared to install, but nothing was loaded to my Install App. However, the install tool would load but none of the .prc files were placed into the install tool. I think that my Windows XP system couldn't read the directory structure that the .prc files were in (the directory had a lot of funny characters). I then copied all of the .prc files into an english named directory (C:\temp) and double clicked on all of the .prc files to load them into the install tool. Then, I synced my PDA. After syncing, it asked me to reset, so I reset. I went into prefs and selected the new bluetooth menu, but it came back with an error message (I was really nervous at this point). After further investigation, it turns out that my PDA ran out of memory and that not all of the programs where installed. I deleted some apps and reinstalled the .prc files again. This time, I was successful. At this point, I followed the directions at http://www.donvy.com/t68/t68ok.shtml . I had a small problem during the discovering phase though. For some reason, the T68 device name was blank on the CLIE. I deleted the devices from both the CLIE and the T68 and tried to discover from the T68 instead of from the CLIE, but my CLIE kept refusing the connection. I then tried to discover again on the CLIE and it worked fine. I don't know why it failed to detect the device name, but I am just glad I got it all working.

I would also like to get this to work on my VAIO. However, I think this stick is only designed for the CLIE (it says CLIE on both the memory stick itself and is stamped onto the CD - one of the only english words I recognized). I tried plugging it into the VAIO, but didn't have any sucess. Does anyone have any ideas? I read some places that there is something else called the INFOSTICK that is not released yet, but might work on the VAIO. I thought that this PEGA-MSB1 was the INFOSTICK, but I guess I'm wrong.

I have always been happy with SONY products up until now. It appears that their competition is finally starting to get ahead of them. I am very disappointed that I had to install the japanese drivers through trial and error. The only reason why I got the CLIE was that I read that the INfostick was suppose to be released last year. If I would have known that palm would have beat Sony to the punch, I would have gotten the palm device. Why hasn't sony released this product or the infostick in the U.S. yet is beyond me. Their competition is now ahead of them and I plan on selling my Sony stock.



RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/22/2002 4:54:17 PM #
Where/how did you buy the MS with BT? I live on the East Coast of the US and would love to get my hands on one. I have a 615C. Not sure if it would work actually.

Thx

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
xyombie @ 4/27/2002 4:43:29 PM #
I also live on the East coast of the US. I had to order my PEGA-MSB1 from this comany in Hong Kong. I got mine from http://shop.brando.com.hk/ms_bluetooth.php . The price is $210 USD and the shipping was only $3. They claimed it would take 2-3 weeks. But I got it in under 3 days. I ordered it on a Saturday night around midnight and I had it by Tuesday afternoon. Hope this helps.

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
easypeasy @ 5/3/2002 9:16:46 AM #
Got my PEGA-MSB1, managed to located it from my VAIO but havent figured how to configure it property yet.
Did manage to detech the CLIE from the PC ...

You can setup a connection to a PC (ie. VAIO), the documentation is clear about this.

I cant really blame them for the Japanese docs since
this was only really released in Japan. But you
could pester Sony USA to have one released.

Strange thing about the CLIE installation is athough
the installation CD uses Japanese, the files installed
all seem to use english. So once you can do it once,
just copy all the install prc's etc for another install.

There seem to three connection settings using Bluetooth, namely PC, Modem and Network which sounds interesting.

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/18/2002 8:21:00 AM #
A big thankyou - I bought the Bluetooth today (in Hong Kong) only to realise when I got home that it was a parallel import and all in Japanese. I managed to muddle pretty well with your advice.

You raise the question as to whether it will work with a VAIO. The install disk doesn't appear to have any PC programs and like you I would conclude that it won't work on a memory stick gate.

Simon

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/29/2002 4:08:43 PM #
Thank you, xyombie, for your reference to brando in hong kong. The MS's are completely unavailable in the US and the Sony Clie tech did not have a clue what a Bluetooth MS meant. I have ordered from Brando today, expect all in Japanese and will try to follow your directions. If I run into a problem I may write again. Thanks again, Richard in Los Angeles
RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2002 1:09:42 PM #
Does the bluetooth memory stick have any memory on it ?

All the specs I've seen on the web have been in Japenese so haven't meant all that much and its not like french or something where you can recognise 64Mb etc.

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
eoleary @ 7/2/2002 1:04:56 PM #
Did you ever get this working with your Vaio - I assume it is a laptop? XP or linux?

Any ideas as to which BT system is in use in the Memory Stick - Widcomm, etc? If so I would be most interested to hear how you did it.

Thanks

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/7/2002 11:02:01 AM #
If you look at web sony japan, you will see a lot of product which relate BT, such www.jp.sonystyle.com/Qnavi/Detail/PEGA-BT700.html
I think this product use with Clie' by connect with serial port and the price is cheaper than BT-MS(comparison by japanese money). That means we can use BT at the same time with MS.
Or it you want to use BT-MS with VAIO , Why dont you use Bluetooth card or usb? it quite cheaper than BT-MS. however, you can check the product the other sit HERE!!!
http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Qnavi/Detail/PEGA-MSB1.html
http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PCOM/Acc/PCGA-BM1/
http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/common/PEGA-BT700/
http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Qnavi/Detail/BTA-NW1.html
Such all that things, BUt there are alot of product . Check it self, I think you shouldnot decide to but BT-MS yet, becasue it may in next a few month they will send another product which better.
Bye
RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/23/2002 9:55:25 AM #
I have just received the MSB1, however, I have no idea how to install it. There are no .prc in any folders I can open, and there are two folders that I couldn't open under the "CLIE_Applications". Please give me some pointers. Or if we could get in touch with each other you could email those .prc to me. I thank you in advance.

please email me at hso5@nyc.rr.com

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/28/2002 9:15:47 PM #
Hi I also just received the PEGA-MSB1 and I am unable to install it. I followed the advise as above but could not locate any .prc files either. And as the user noted above I could not open the two folders under "CLIE_Applications" when installing. The auto install gives me the follwoing error:

"Bluetooth <unrecognized characters>
MSB1
C:\Program Files\Sony Handheld\Add-On\MSB1
System cannot find the path specified."

I understand that the users who stated that they were able to succesfully install were using Windows XP. I have Windows 98 Second Edition and the package for the MSB1 states that it works on this. I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not this was the reason that these files do not load. If anyone has a similar problem please let me know. And if there is any way I can get in touch with someone who can either help me out or send me the .prc files I would really really appreaciate it you can reach me as follows:

ish500@hotmail.com

Thanks.

RE: Sony CLIE N760C with PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2002 10:15:43 PM #
Does anyone have an idea whether the price of the bluetooth memorystick, when released in the US, will be as pricey as it is overseas($200+)?
If so, I am considering just buying it from expandsys.

Sony PEG-T625C Compatibility?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 2:02:54 PM #
I am from the UK and am after a clie. I am looking at getting a 625C. I am just wondering if anyone knows wether it will support the bluetooth MemStick?

PEGA-MSB1

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/15/2002 3:00:45 PM #
Does anyone know the release date for the PEGA-MSB1 in the states? If Sony drags ass on the release much longer, I'm gonna buy a Palm w/ an SD BT card.
RE: PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/4/2002 1:35:51 AM #
Agreed... Me too!
RE: PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/4/2002 1:36:33 AM #
Damn ass draggers...
RE: PEGA-MSB1
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2002 3:55:39 AM #
Ass-Backwards Non-US-Blewtooth Memstick-Releasing Bastards.

Bluetooth Stick for Clie

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/29/2002 3:43:39 AM #
We have now one BT Stick here for use with a NR70V. Though everything is in Japanese, installing and setting up the Stick is very easy. I connected to my T68 within a few minutes. Surfing the web and checking for emails is a lot of fun with the phone anywhere near you, e.g. in your pocket. I think its the right way. Hopefully we will see a good price ...
RE: Bluetooth Stick for Clie
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/2/2002 5:40:10 AM #
how much? and do i need to sign up for isp(such as aol, and msn) what if i have roadrunner on my pc?

Bluetooth Memory Stick with no memory

I.M. Anonymous @ 7/5/2002 9:38:53 PM #
Um.... what's the point of a memorystick with no memory ! If I gotta take out my 128mb card to connect then I loose access to the info I want to upload or the space to put new things.
The Palm SD Bluetooth is much smaller than the Sony MS version, and the new mini-MS sticks are about half the size so.... did they not combine the whole thing for marketing of technical reasons ?
If it's a marketing reason... is this the end of the memory stick (look how well marketing has screwed the MiniDis format... could have wiped the floor with ZIP disks, but they declined to release a data format)
If it's a technical reason... has the MS hit a wall compared to CF etc.
The answer would be two MS slots in my NR70V but how to retrofit without an axe
RE: Bluetooth Memory Stick with no memory
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/6/2002 12:32:47 AM #
LoL Stupid American
You'll be surprised at how popular Minidisc is when you just step one foot out of US of the A.

if MD is really that unpopular we won't have Sharp, Panasonic, Sony, Aiwa, Denon making MiniDisc compatible players, Deck, Car player.

And MiniDisc was never designed to store data, that's the job of Megnatic Optics Disc (MO), though it's not very popular.

And in case you didn't already know Memorystick has the market share of what SD/MMC could only dream of. if Sony really did that bad at marketing it, then those Company who supports SD/MMC must really suck.

RE: Bluetooth Memory Stick with no memory
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/22/2002 11:52:01 AM #
My opinion exactly!!!! Hopefully there will be a bt MS with actually memory...
Oh well, we can keep dreaming

760c ???

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/9/2002 3:15:31 AM #
Should I have any reason to believe that the PEGA-MSB1 would *not* work with my 760c. I'd hate to drop this much money for something that would be unusable with my little beauty.
RE: 760c ???
sebtek @ 2/15/2003 11:03:28 PM #
The n760c works fine.

You havbe to have Palm OS 4.1 - thats all.

Ive used mine quite a lot with a t39m.

Seb

To Ed

Noel @ 10/29/2002 11:15:26 AM #
Hi Ed
I bought my Clie Bluetooth Stick in Singapore and the manual is in Japanese. Where can I find a translation of the manual. Having trouble installing

RE: To Ed
dhallag @ 11/9/2002 10:26:55 AM #
You can go to:

http://www.spug.net/reviews/rbluetoothms.htm

I don't know if it works - I just came about this as I am learning about BlueTooth and how I could use Bluetooth with my T665C.

Please let everyone know if it works. By the way, would you be open to sharing how much did you pay for your PEGA-MSB1? and what do you intend to use it for?

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