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Palm Inc. remained in first place, with 45.7% of sales. Handspring was second with 18.9% of retail sales and Sony is running a close third with 16%. That means the Palm OS platform made up over 80% of handheld retail sales that month.
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RE: Not bad
RE: Not bad
Besides, Sony is totally on crack when they name all their products lately. Clie. Vaio. Aibo. WTF?
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With Palm... what palm? the one with fingers? the tree? oh... the PDA maker.
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*I* remember them, because *I* am a geek.
Ask anyone on the street what a Vaio is... they'll probably think it's a disease, and run away.
Ask anyone on the street what an Aibo is... they'll think it's a new exercise program. Hi-yah!
Ask anyone on the street what a Clie is... and say it with that french-sounding "ay" at the end. You'll probably get laughed at.
Ask anyone on the street what a Palm is... they'll know.
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> how much the surgery cost. WTF?! When I told them I
> got a new CLIE, they knew what I was talking about.
That's like saying your friends have no idea what RAM is, but they know the difference between SIMMs and DIMMs.
You need new friends.
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To think this was a flame war... You must be new to this. :)
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Of course, if I upgraded, I'd also lose my modem, my keyboard, and my memory expansion modules.
For my purposes (journalist and consultant), the VDx does just fine, and I've got the bugs worked out. I don't have the cash to upgrade with every whim of Sony. Sony changes form factor and compatibility too often for there to be the accessory options I have for the Visor.
I am glad to see that manufacturers are recognizing the different needs of people within the marketplace. Each is staking a different claim: Sony - performance, Handspring - convegence, Palm - ??? (maybe Palm stakes out the low-end market).
You people who snipe at each other over handheld superiority need to move out of your mothers' basements.
(btw -- "Vulcan" refers to the Roman god of the forge, not the green-blooded science officer. Save your flames.)
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Oh wow! Guys check this out! The new Clie has more than 1000 dpi!! Guys? Hey come back here! *runs after them holding a spec sheet* I didnt even show you the Keyboard!!!!!
The best is yet to come?
Palm on the other hand dont stress performance as much. Although OS5 is imminent, a lot of user a satified with the current performance levels. Those that need multimedia have already moved to PPC or aways the enhancements in OS5.
If Febuary was a good month, the next few months will be even more eventful with the inclusion of the NR series.
RE: The best is yet to come?
Percentage of how much?
RE: Percentage of how much?
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RE: Percentage of how much?
16% for Sony might sound nice, however, if the total retail sales volume is much lower than the average monthly sales, the 16% for Sony might not be as much as it seems. Especially since it is February with less sales days...
Granted, market share is market share, but market share of one month in my opinion is rather useless. More interesting is a 3-month period (or more), combined with actual volumes to get a better overall picture.
If Palm's sales were weaker (say half) than usual due to imminent release of M515 and M130 then the 16% market share could easily equate to 'around only' 8% in a normal month.
RE: Percentage of how much?
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RE: Percentage of how much?
shall we talk about multi tasking and thread priority in Palm?
Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
If PPC was going to overtake Palm, the last year or so was the time to do it because Palm was caught off-guard by PPC and basically spent the last yr regrouping and rebuilding its OS to scale in terms of processor speed, graphics, sound and security needs. Now Palm OS and licencees are ready to come out swinging with devices that are potentially faster, with better graphics AND able to leverage most of the vast, existing Palm OS library of software.
Redmond should be worried.....
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
The most absurd thing is that the Thera brand is never heard of before 2001. Wondering the HP ones will cost over a $1000 even with a contract.
I would still prefer a phone(bluetooth) and a Palm OS 5 PDA (bluetooth) instead. It is much cheaper, and yet I get more battery life out of the two. But then, again, I lost some space. But who knows...
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RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
And it coincidence with the born of iPaq.
So PPC does had its best opportunity.
But Sony came to rescue. And now Palm seems to
back to a normal company. :-(
It is still a long fight. But Palm with Sony's help
has a good chance to succeed.
Hard to believe some company forcasted a few years back
that in 2005 PPC will dominate. I don't know
how they get the number.
If Palm can find one more helper like Sony, then Palm
will have a much better chance to succeed.
ted
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
Turns out that Microsoft's lead in the enterprise is mostly just wishful thinking. It might even qualify as an urban legend.
Recently, IDC questioned more than 1,100 IT managers from all sizes of businesses and found that Palm handhelds outstrip all others overwhelmingly, with 60% of the companies currently purchasing Palm branded handhelds. Handspring and Compaq were in a tie for number two with less than 30%. The Palm OS platform is likewise supported by more than 60% of the companies -- which is nearly double that of any other handheld operating system.
You can read more about it here:
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2628
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RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
I guess all those handheld just vanished into the blackhole.
and the enterprise and online market are just myth.
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
Is it because no one buy it at retail, some other folks must buy it online (for???) or for their enterprise(???). I agree, it is wishful thinking.
Of course, Compaq may bundle these expensive handhelds along with their workstations/servers for free. But who knows...
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RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
It's all about networking and data exchange these days, not just PIM. That's why Palm is deperate to capture the enterprise sector. (and always refuse to talk about their penetration rate)
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to c
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2628
shows that Palm has already captured the enterprise sector. This is backed up by unbiased companies (IDC, Jupiter Research, Yankee Group) who did the surveys. This is better than Palm talking about its penetration rate because I know IDC etc. isn't fudging the numbers.
That's much more believable than Microsoft's campaign of lies. Can you show me a press release or advertisement where Microsoft says it controls handheld sales in the enterprise? I'll bet you can't. It's is just something you "know", right? That's because this lie is said over and over again by Microsoft employees who spread propaganda in discussion groups like this one.
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
try UPS, Fedex, US Army. They all plan and already dole up money to purchase PPC.
http://www.aberdeen.com/eti/
currentissue/aug1/mobile_finding.htm
let's face it, Palm OS can't even multi task, that alone is enough for any sane enterprise to stay away beyond PIM function. Than there is security. (OS 5.0 will cure this apparently)
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
RE: Industry excited about PocketPC, public doesnt seem to care
Hard to believe
RE: Hard to believe
RE: Hard to believe
RE: Hard to believe
I think Clie already takes over Handspring's place
in Asia. In HongKong, Clie dominates the market.
Sony should be in 2nd place soon, maybe in this summer.
Sony has a great name brand. And they have very innovative Palm handhelds.
ted
RE: Hard to believe
RE: Hard to believe
RE: Hard to believe
As well they should!
The NR70V is really hot! However I will hold off on even THIS killer piece, as OS5 and faster ARM-based processors are so close.
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Not bad
Look its innovative! Cant be something by Palm, now can it?