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Late last year, Fossil announced that it would be releasing the Wrist PDA, a watch that can communicate with via infrared with a Palm OS handheld and store addresses, to-dos, memos, and appointments. It is available now for $145. The watch's built-in applications provide read-only capability and can store up to 190 KB of information. It can send and receive business card info and store twenty business cards.
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Are you kidding??

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 1:44:16 PM #
Man, wearing something like this is just asking to take a beating.
RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 1:45:38 PM #
What kind of redneck hell do you live in? Its a watch!!! If you go to a school where people get beat up for wearing watches, do you also get beat up for chewing the wrong brand of tobacco? Or dating someone besides your sister?
RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 2:28:22 PM #
I have to agree. A "kick my ass" sign around your neck would be only slightly more likely to cause trouble.

If you ever see me wearing something even remotely as geeky as this, shoot me in the head immediately.

RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 2:34:07 PM #
Seeing people in denial is really sad. Sit down and prepare yourself for a shock. YOU ARE A HUGE GEEK ALREADY!! The fact that you own a Palm and hang out at Palm Infocenter shows this clearly.

But there is help for you. I'm going to tell you how to no longer be a geek. Throw your Palm away. Now. Never again use your computer for anything besides playing Deer Hunter 2002. Forget everything you ever learned about a computer. Begin all your sentences with "Uhhh". Never again talk about anything but wrestling, football, and hooters. Last but not least, never visit this site again. I know it seems drastic but if being a geek scares you that much, it's what you'll have to do.

RE: Are you kidding??
PR @ 4/29/2002 2:36:28 PM #
and the beating would be well deserved:)

RE: Are you kidding??
PR @ 4/29/2002 3:21:15 PM #
"Seeing people in denial is really sad. Sit down and prepare yourself for a shock. YOU ARE A HUGE GEEK ALREADY!! The fact that you own a Palm and hang out at Palm Infocenter shows this clearly."

yeah, you're right, we're geeks already, but wearing a pda watch is beyond geekness in my opinion. palms are mainstream enough that you can get away with it by pretending you're just a casual user, like most palm owners. if you're wearing a pda watch, you are advertising your geekness for all to see!

RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 3:25:02 PM #
Lighten up Francis, one of these men may save your life someday
RE: Are you kidding??
sandbuck @ 4/29/2002 3:34:45 PM #
This watch will attract geek-beaters like cops to a "Lo-jack".
RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 3:48:06 PM #
like cops to lo jack, good one! First let me say it's big and ugly. Okay that's shallow of me. However if the thing is that big it ought to have more memory. Remember the page watches a few years back, they didn't last long too big. My husband had one and said he needed form as well as functionality. I don't know a lot of men who want a watch that big and a woman forget it. Definately a niche item. For those who still dream of being Dick Tracy, it works though
RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 3:49:00 PM #
I'm sure this watch will figure prominently 20 years from now when we are all guffawing over "That 00's Show".
RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:24:10 PM #
Perhaps it will attract she-geeks! :-)
RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:33:34 PM #
I always want to beat up fat guys with phone and PDA dangling on their belt. What's up with that? Since when phone and PDA suppose to be dangling on the belt like some sort of utility belt. Is this guy the missing person in the vilage people singer?

........oh look, balding office worker geek wannabee with phone and PDA dangling on their belt.

.....let's beat him up.

or something.

(This message brought to you by Society for clueless-random-Violence)

RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 5:20:47 PM #
I have a phone and a PDA on my belt, they're kind of useful there. I'm also 6'3" tall, 225lbs, have long full hair, and a blackbelt 4th degree.

(This message brought to you by thoes who have a life)

RE: Are you kidding??
kezza @ 4/29/2002 5:21:07 PM #
> Perhaps it will attract she-geeks! :-)

I feel fairly confident speaking for the rest of the she-geeks in these parts, so I'll say without much hesitation that that watch has got to be the least attractive thing I could picture on a man's wrist, aside from maybe that PDA-Keyboard getup from last year.

"Well, if it isn't the leader of the wiener patrol, boning up on his nerd lessons"

RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 5:42:12 PM #
LoL ...a cool looking Yepp or Sony Mp3 player might be more attractive to she-geeks :)
RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 6:27:51 PM #
"I have a phone and a PDA on my belt, they're kind of useful there. I'm also 6'3" tall, 225lbs, have long full hair, and a blackbelt 4th degree."

So I should fear your hair?? Well, I have heard of "fearing the mullet", which sounds like as safe assumption as to your hairstyle of choice.

RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 6:32:55 PM #
I'd buy it if it had functions that I could use while working out, such as being able to take my pulse, MP3 player so I could listen to music, etc. Of course, it would need *alot* more memory...

However I wouldn't be caught dead wearing it outside the gym. Man, you could seriously injure someone with that thing.

RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 7:45:25 PM #
"I have a phone and a PDA on my belt, they're kind of useful there. I'm also 6'3" tall, 225lbs, have long full hair, and a blackbelt 4th degree.

(This message brought to you by thoes who have a life)"

apparently too much beating sure damage your brain function to understand irony.

RE: Are you kidding??
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 11:05:33 PM #
One thing, though, it is a fossil watch, and in my school that would actually keep you from getting your ass kicked, as fossil watches are popular in my school....i have a fossil brain, it has a whole bunch of cool crap, and it's very geeky, but everybody wants to look at it.....
RE: Are you kidding??
mrhockey @ 4/30/2002 2:22:53 AM #
I must agree that the thing would make you a target for geek haters. Almost as big of a target as one of my employees, who has a phone, PDA, walkie talkie, multi tool, flashlight, 2 pagers, and a tape measure on his belt. He also has a mullet. He gets taunted a lot in bars. If you buy this, expect people to laugh. Not because of how ugly the contraption is, but at how you got conned out of the cash for it. The only possible excuse for it is the alarm thing. Only reason to by it IMHO.


To the winner who posted the first response
Pentagonal @ 4/30/2002 2:28:19 AM #
It seems like you are making a career out being the first to post on news stories, and always it's some inflammatory rot intended to drive the quality of conversation straight into the ground. You are to be credited for your faithfulness to your cause, no matter how pathetic it may be.

But it's time you let someone else say something (I know, I know--it might be intelligent), because your Depends are overflowing and the toilet is actually just down the hall. Let go of your desk. It's been three weeks now. If you stay in that seat of yours any longer, you'll have to call 911 to have it surgically removed.


I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 1:52:46 PM #
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 2:02:32 PM #
1) Because it isn't always convenient to carry your handheld with you everywhere you go.

2) Because its cool. That used to be enough. Since when did everything have to be completely practical? Hell, most of what you buy isn't necessary. Why should this be any different?

popko @ 4/29/2002 2:33:02 PM #
I don't know man ... I really don't think it'll look cool ... instead, people will think I got it at Wal-mart for $19.99 ...

popko @ 4/29/2002 2:34:48 PM #
(To clear things up)

I said that because it seems to be too big ... from afar, it looks like one of these kid's watch.

trevor_d @ 4/29/2002 3:35:49 PM #
I saw a demo of a beta at COMDEX last year. Very cool, but very big. I like my ol' Timex Data Link better. Looks more like a watch. Too bad they aren't made anymore.

Now, if the Fossil was more "watch-size", I'd look at it. As it is, my Casio Wrist-Cam is way too big to use.

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:11:59 PM #
Yikes, dude. Timex data link watch AND Casio wrist Cam in the same sentence? You own both of these? Talk about "asking for a beating"


I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:36:52 PM #
Pesonally I rather beat up a guy with Patek philips around his wrist. I don't know about you.
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 12:04:02 AM #
I've actually gotten to see/play with one. They are, in my opinion, HUGE. Like wearing a small wall clock around your wrist. Once this "Newton" sized device comes down to "PalmPilot" size, they should be ok. Until then, just velcro a strap onto an old Palm Pro and away you go (I knew there was still a use for the old dust Palm Pro in my desk drawer... clock works fine on it)
trevor_d @ 4/30/2002 7:39:48 AM #
Re: Timex Data Link and Casio Wrist-Cam. I don't where both at the same time, obviously, and only have the Casio because it was a freebie.

Still, I concede the point even owning both is a sign of geekness.

4s @ 4/30/2002 3:11:40 PM #
Come on. It can't be that big. As long as those G-Shock watches are still on the market, no watch is too big. :)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/1/2002 10:24:46 AM #
there definately is something to say for having a copy of your contacts / appointments on your wrist but i have to agree...the watch is ugly and big. something around that size made as a keychain attatchment would be more useful [then i could keep it out of sight :-)]. even if it was more in the form factor of the timex datalink.... i have a timex datalink triathalon watch that i dont use much anymore... it was great for the first couple years because i always had a list of phone numbers whenever i didnt have my palm or cell phone w/ me and if i had something really important to remember i could setup an alarm. i finally quit using it because it got to be too much of a pain too keep everything in sync... get a new phone number... enter it in palm, enter it in cellphone, enter it in timex software. i almost bought the fossil "the brain" watch but again.. entering all my information with the buttons on the watch wont be a fun task

while im on the subject of the timex datalink... does anyone know if theres software for the palm thats compatable w/ it? i'm guessing it could be synced via the infared port since timex has a datalink 'laptop adapter' that i think is just a serial infared transmitter..but then again most laptops allready have irda capabilities so that might not be it..

Needs Bluetooth

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 1:53:45 PM #
If it had Bluetooth and was smart enough to automatically update itself from my PDA or desktop, then it would be cool. Having to beam my data over regularly would be a pain.
RE: Needs Bluetooth - I had a dream about this
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 4:41:30 AM #
I had a dream about a BlueTooth watch the other night. It could talk to my Palm and could pretty much everything this watch does, but also had GPS capability (for GPS-over-BlueTooth with my Palm/Laptop).

But it had no display for some reason )hey, okay so pretty lousy as watch then :-)

It was Motorola for some reason I can't remeber (I know because it had a Motorola logo on it) and was about the same size as the existing GPS watch.

This this is because (a) I'm a geek and (b) i have a BlueTooth phone, BlueTooth personal handsfree, and BlueTooth Palm SD Card.

Please, somebody invent one and make the dreams stop!

-- Iain

RE: Needs Bluetooth
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 7:23:19 PM #
IBM LInux watch actually has a bluetooth receiver. Too bad it's prototype only.


Isaiahp @ 4/29/2002 1:54:33 PM #
I have been waiting for this watch for a while. I can't wait to get one!

For those wondering "Why?" Because sometimes you forget your Palm. Period. And since this also holds appointments, etc., it will be a better reminder for the alarms. My Palm is in a Grinder Gear case. The case is INCREDIBLE, but you can't hear the alarm through it.


I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 3:38:33 PM #
Wonder if it vibrates....
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 9:07:58 PM #
"Wonder if it vibrates...."

i wonder why you would wonder that????

you're a horny little geek aren't u )

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 7:23:13 AM #
Not a good idea if you are trying to drink coffee when the alarm goes off. Count me out.


I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2002 8:40:06 AM #
"Not a good idea if you are trying to drink coffee when the alarm goes off. Count me out. "
Heh heh.
If it would have a vibration alarm, it would be even bigger.

non-fossil looking

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 3:53:09 PM #
I like fossil watches but this watch looks like cheap armitron watches that you always see outside the glass protected display shelves. I wish they made it look better and smaller.
RE: non-fossil looking
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:21:36 PM #
I've had one of those cheap Armitron watches for 5 years now. Keeps fairly accurate time, looks OK considering it only cost $20, and I haven't had to change the battery. Ever.

Best 20 bucks I ever spent.

RE: non-fossil looking
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:39:43 PM #
well this cheap looking one doesnt costs just $20.
RE: non-fossil looking
seanhennessy @ 4/29/2002 9:22:45 PM #
This really is one heck of an ugly watch. I'm the sort that would be attracted by the geek factor, but even I have my aesthetic standards.

The Future

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:06:18 PM #
More importantly, this ugly watch is a sign of things to come. How so?

Simple. It's Palm's idealogy at it's simplest:

In the years to come, corporations....and eventually consumers...will be using tablets, etc. to actually *WORK ON*, and will be beaming/BlueTooth-ing their information to and from workstations and PDAs.

Palm wants their OS on EVERYTHING. Or at least *compatible* with everything.

The average consumer doesn't (and will NOT) *WANT* a full-screen Sony 615. I do. The "average" guy does not.

PDAs will be (and already are) a way to carry important information to and from work and home, along with acting as an excellent high-end scheduler/calendar.

If you can't see this, then you are either narrow-minded, or extremely short-sided. Probably the same type of person that doesn't believe Microsoft can (not will, but *CAN*) topple.

So you like to use Excel and Word on your PocketPC or Palm, eh? Wouldn't you rather edit those documents on a tablet that is included on every seat of an airplane? With a full screen and handwriting recognition? And then BlueTooth it to your Palm?

Take it into the hotel and BlueTooth it to the tablets/dummy workstations they have set up there? Think about it.

Palm has been saying from the get-go that the AVERAGE consumer (the one who decides that m100s and m105s will be the hottest selling PDAs, the ones that only saw Phantom Menace once, the ones that use AOL) doesn't NEED or WANT to watch movies on their PDA, edit Word documents on their PDA, or manipulate Excel files on their PDA.

You'll pick up your PDA (not you nerds, of course, but the AVERAGE consumer)which will likely be as small, if not smaller than a Palm m515, BlueTooth the documents you need that day from your PC into your handheld, along with any clips, photos, etc., and BlueTooth it again into your Tablet or dummy-PC when you get to work.

Gotta take documents or attachments home? You'll BlueTooth it to your PDA and off you go.

I'm still positive that not even *you* shortsided nerds have the faintest idea how radically "going wireless" is going to change business, and eventually, the consumer market.

I work in an office of 2,000+ employees. Nobody likes their clunky desktops (even though they're 1.7 Ghz), and NOBODY likes taking their laptops home. All the women have these pain-in-the-ass carts they use to lug them around because frankly, even the most modern laptop is uncomfortable for most women to tote around.

If (or more likely, WHEN) we make the paradigm change to inexpensive tablets, PDAs, and Dummy PCs, people in this office will be a lot happier.

It'll be a lot simpler to store your documents on a PDA (or even a tablet) and take it on a plane, then it is to take your friggin laptop all over the country.

The possibilities are ridiculously cool, but more importantly, they will render us more efficient, and hopefully, happier.

I'll step off the soap box now.

RE: The Future
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 4:51:16 PM #
Also, it would be really cool if our wedding rings and shoes have IrDA or bluetooth built-in, so that whenever we point to or kicking at someone, someone will be communicating with us in a geek way.
RE: The Future
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 6:11:42 PM #
It's a nice vision, but I find it extremely hard to believe that the stations needed are going to appear in every hotel room or in the back of every airline seat any time soon.

To and from work, yes. Buying two dumb terminals is well within a reasonable IT budget. Hotels might make such equipment available for rent -- it's very unlikely they could afford to put one in every room. I don't see airlines doing this at all.

RE: The Future
Spell @ 4/29/2002 10:38:47 PM #
I don't disagree with any of this: it's articulate, in line with my perception of both how we're stuck now and how hopefully we'll get unstuck later ... but the last bit, "but more importantly, they will render us more efficient, and hopefully, happier" sets off the mental alarms.

I guess I'm just thinking of the "paperless office" and how computers were going change everything...and they did, but are we really happier? As someone who slaved at a dotcom and has been laid off repeatedly thanks to the joys of the technology sector at the turn of the century, I dunno if I'm happier now than I would've been at the turn of the last century -- just work-wise, guys, before you jump down my throat about medical advancements and communication technology.

A technology forum is really a poor choice of place to question the amount of satisfaction that can really be found in new trinkets and smaller toys. But doesn't more technology just bring more complications and more "ooos!" when the next big thing comes along?

Sorry for the philosophy.

Looking forward to the ooos, just like everyone else.

RE: The Future
Simon Magnus @ 4/29/2002 10:57:24 PM #
Philosophize away it is healthy for you. Much of what was said was valid but I am afraid to say that the great silent majority could care less about technology. I sadly see it every day where I work. I work at a "high tech" company with co-workers who claim to be compurter/technology literate. But once they open their mouths you quickly notice that they don't know jack. Case in point: one of the so called techs has had a PC-Unite watch since before Christmas and has yet to enter any data into it except the time. He claims he has no time to read the "thick" book that came with it. The reality is that it looks high-tech so he's gonna wear it and if anyone asks about it he handwave them off. Another tech has a Palm III that she never uses so her daughter confiscated it and shows it off in school. Or what about the guy who works part time at a computer store and is supposedly "very knowledgeable" asking me about wireless service on a PDA. Turns out he want to 'maybe' send an email while on vacation with the family. After I gave him the info he asked for he got upset with me because it was not as quick and easy as he wanted it to be. And this is not the only group of people like this. I have many friends who also work at "high tech" companies and we all see the same things. I will close by saying that more than a few people have looked down at me because I walk around with 3 PDA's (2 Palms and 1 PPC), 2 cell phones, 1 language translator, 1 stowaway keyboard, and 1 FRS radio (my girlfriend has the other one). This may sound excessive to many but it is necessary for me and my work, this is how I put food on my table. I use the technologies I do not adorn myself with them. Philosophizing is healthy as long as we are realistic.

RE: The Future
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 12:00:27 AM #
The idea of "hightech" watch in man should be the represent the pinnacle of mechanical age. Just as violin represent the peak of 16th century wood working.

now, wearing electronic watch is about as fashionable as cheap ties. It's plebeian as a fashion accessory. If you have to wear a watch to keep up with your work, at least wear something like the IBM Linux watch.

RE: The Future
I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 1:57:24 AM #
being strapped to time is not cool. but if this were a pocket watch I might be able to use it


I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 8:38:40 PM #
A PDA is meant to complement a full-sized computer, for times when you can't carry a laptop or be near a desktop.

This watch synchronizes with a PDA, making it a PDAA (Personal Digital Assistant Assistant). I would be more intrigued if it synced directly to a PC, as a few watches have already done, but who's going to go through the hassle of syncing one auxiliary device (a PDA) with both a watch *and* at least one computer?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/29/2002 8:58:49 PM #
so a pda ring is a PDAAA =)
big_raji @ 4/30/2002 12:43:19 AM #
Perhaps a "PDA-A" Belt Buckle companion.

It can synchronize via IR while the PDA is on your belt case.

If you forget your PDA, you always have your belt buckle.

Then, the belt buckle can synchronize with your "PDA-A-A" Watch companion anytime your wrist is near your crotch area.

Mom: Billy! What are you doing!

Billy: Omigod Mom! I'm synchronizing! I'm synchronizing!

What's Wrong With This Picture?


I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 5:55:44 AM #

Hehehe I'd love to get hold of a development kit for the watch. Could write some cool games for that little display!

Anyone know if one is planned?

The Squire

nice size, but just too much!

Rolando @ 4/30/2002 9:59:00 AM #
I'd like something that size if it wasn't a wrist watch. Maybe if I pulled off the band and just put it in my pocket.

Sometimes it's just not convenient to carry the full size PDA with you, so something pocket size would be very nice to have.

But, this watch is a bit to uncoventional for me.


I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 4:55:58 PM #
RE: OnHandPC
visorprismman @ 4/30/2002 6:34:06 PM #
Not too cool...I saw it and don't want to add information to that little thing what are you nuts? :-P

Isn't it a little bit too late ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/30/2002 10:49:44 PM #
Casio has PC-UNITE series watch out 2.5 years ago. I guess there are moving into model BZX-20.

I had a Casio PC-UNITE 100 (for $99) two years ago. After two months of showing off to my friends. A watch is still a watch and my Palm III is still a PDA. I can never develop a habbit to have my wristPDA sync with my true PDA all the time.

Ohhh, the only thing I feel useful is my Datebook appointment on the Casio. The under-classed alarm sound on my Palm III can not compete with Casio's brisk and loud alarm sound.

Got mine today - returning it

jeffreytz @ 5/1/2002 1:54:19 PM #
This is a big dissapointment. First off, my watch is defective - it won't beep. The alarms are silent and when I used the fossil.prc app to turn on button "beeps" when pressed, nothing happens.

The buttons themselves are like other Fossil data watches I've tried (I have a BRAIN watch I recieved as a gift) - you have to press too damn hard to get them to function. This is probably due to the water-resistant nature of the watch, but they need to come up with something more responsive.

But the worst feature about the watch is its performance as a PDA. The reason I use a Palm is for instant access to my data - no loading, no waiting, easy lookups. The Fossil PDA watch incorporates none of those features. If you want to view the date book you will be presented with a "loading ..." screen. I put 8K worth of data into the date book and it took over 15 seconds to load. Then I had to scroll through the day to see the first appointment (it's not smart enough to display the first event regardless of time).

The watch is littered wtih such issues and short-sighted design. For example, you can't re-order the applications on the Home menu. I have no interest in using the To-Do function on my watch, but want to look up Memo documents quite often. Unfortunatly you have to scroll through the pre-set order to get to what you want, regardless of wether or not there is even data in an app.

The device is also more "one-way" than I anticipated. If someone "beams" you thier business card, you can't look at it until you download it to your Palm (which then removes it from the watch), catagorize it in your address book then beam it back on your next sync.

And calling it a "sync" function is a true misnomer. That would imply you could update data on the watch and pass it back to the Palm. All updates must take place on the Palm, and then the Fossil software doesn't "sync" the records that have changed, it does and entire dump of all records selected, which via infrared is pretty time consuming (transfering 8k in the date book and 75k in the address book took over two minutes).

While I didn't expect to be able to write a memo on my watch, I did expect the ability to set an alarm, or at least a snooze setting for an appointment.

I could go on and on, and I've only played with the thing for a couple of hours. Trust me, this thing is DOA.

Jeffrey Tschiltsch

RE: Got mine today - returning it
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/1/2002 7:11:07 PM #
Thanks, thanks, thanks, ... You have saved me two round trips (to get it, back, paly with it, return it, and come back). It sounds like my old WinCE 1.0 device. Never ending hour glass on the screen...

Diver's Assistant

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/1/2002 10:32:58 PM #
Don't forget this is waterproof to 30 meters, much deeper than the Casio can go.

This device can store 300 to 400 memos, which is a powerful way of communicating directions or instructions to another diver on an underwater jobsite. Plus the backlight would be useful in lowlight situations found on most underwater jobsites.

Now if only there were a way to access the 400 memos without having to scroll through each one -)

RE: Diver's Assistant
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/1/2002 11:14:11 PM #
Don't forget that 30 meters of water resistance does not equal to operate watch under 30 meters of water.

A mobile device for a mobile device?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/2/2002 6:46:30 AM #
Is it just me, or is a device intended to 'mobalize' an already mobile device seem silly? If you were prepared to lug around an oversized watch, then why not get a belt clip or something for your PDA?

What next- a microchip in the ear that syncronises with the watch?! (that syncronises with your Palm, which syncronises to your laptop, which syncronises to your PC [etc])



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