Comments on: Handspring Drops to Third Place in Retail Sales
Of course, the competition between the two is for second place. Palm Inc.'s share of the retail market had a big jump, moving from 45.7% in February to 54.3% in March. This means the Palm OS platform made up almost 85% of handheld retail sales that month.
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RE: Treo 90 Will Help HandSpring
RE: Treo 90 Will Help HandSpring
RE: Treo 90 Will Help HandSpring
I really think people make to much of this. It is almost impossible to tell the difference between a 12bit image (4096 colors) and 16bit (65,000 colors). It is quite a bit easier to tell the difference between 8-bit (256 colors) and 12 bit. 65000 colors sounds a lot more impressive but believe me (i had a casio e125 ppc with 12 bit-screen and an ipaq w/16-bit) the difference isn't noticable. How many Palm OS apps or games (in the history of the platform) actually show more then 4096 colors on the screen at once?
RE: Treo 90 Will Help HandSpring
tell it will be a hit or a bust.
I have to say they are too slow to come out with new
features.
RE: Treo 90 Will Help HandSpring
RE: Treo 90 Will Help HandSpring
http://www.pocketnow.com/reviews/jornada568/jornada568b.htm
...certainly, aside from certain photos, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in say, a color game.
And when you take this to a 2.5 x 2.5 inch Palm screen (with less brightness then yr desktop) all differences become much less noticable.
Let me be the first...
I also doubt Handspring's announcement that they would focus on the Treo had any effect on retail sales for them. Retail buyers are generally don't take those kinds of things into consideration when buying PDA. Other than the Treo, Handspring just don't have anything slick, exciting and new in store displays right now.
Standard disclaimer: I own a Clie and like it, Sony makes nice PDAs but is nowhere near perfect and has yet to "RULEz the maRkET!@!!$!", Palm is slow at innovating but they are GAINING market share so they're doing something right, and Handspring, well you reap what you sow.
Handspring's destiny
RE: Let me be the first...
So in essence, this little company with a half-a**ed attitude is doing almost as well (PDA wise) as a large international conglomerate dedicating it's vast wealth and resources into the effort. That makes Handspring sound pretty impressive to me.
Of course, they may continue their decline but nothing is set in stone my friend. Handspring has PLENTY of time to right themselves...
RE: Let me be the first...
RE: Let me be the first...
How long has HS been in the market? 5 years.
For that matter, how long has Palm been in the market? 10 years.
Sony? 2 years.
HS had a whole three years to fully distance themselves from Sony, so I guess some of the "half-a**ed" commentary does fit. Now, if they both entered the market at the same time, then your argument could hold some water.
RE: Let me be the first...
RE: Let me be the first...
The Visor fow released in September 1999, about 2.75 years ago.
The Sony S300 was released in the US in August 2000, so about 1.75 years ago.
The Visor hasn't been around that much longer than the CLIE. Handspring had a huge lead over Sony because the original Visor line was very good, while the original Clies were bloody awful.
Sony only starting showing some legs last year when the 710 came out, its first model worth buying.
RE: Let me be the first...
You folks mistakenly assume that everyone seeks the same market dominance that Microsoft has. That's simply not true. Palm and Sony both seek to be big-time players, but they don't need to monopolize. Handspring, in the meantime, is slowly fading as a "player." Never turned a profit, never will...
RE: Let me be the first...
"PLENTY Of Time??? You do have faith you HS. Why don't you put all the money you have in HS shares? According to you, they will be better to Sony in no time."
I can't emphasize enough the importance of reading if you are going to participate in forum discussions. You might recall I stated "they may continue their decline". I really don't understand how you take that to mean that I think they are going to be better than Sony.
"HS had a whole three years to fully distance themselves from Sony ... Now, if they both entered the market at the same time, then your argument could hold some water."
Irregardless of your false calculations, the only number that really matters is that Sony has been in the game for almost two years and they have just caught up. With Sony's resources, it really shouldn't take that long to catch up with a "half-a**ed" company like some people take HS to be.
"You folks mistakenly assume that everyone seeks the same market dominance that Microsoft has."
If any CEO of a publicly-traded company ever stated that "MS style" market dominance was not wanted by their company, shareholders would laugh the fool out of town...
RE: Let me be the first...
"Irregardless" isn't a word.
Next,
"With Sony's resources, it really shouldn't take that long to catch up with a "half-a**ed" company like some people take HS to be."
While this maybe true, please keep in mind that HS was created by the people who created the Palm device. Therefore, if you want to talk about resources, then I'd say that it balances itself out.
RE: Let me be the first...its a pda, not a car
RE: Let me be the first...
Dude, what are you talking about? Sony's total sales for last year ($60B) was over 20 (twenty) times that of 3Com, Palm Inc. and Handspring COMBINED (under $3B). Yeah, that sounds real balanced.
HS had to hack PalmOS just like everyone else. HS's people lost their "home field advantage" pretty quickly after leaving Palm.
ssummer
P.S. - Focus on the facts: "http://www.bartleby.com/61/84/I0238400.html"
typo
Should be "imminent"?
RE: typo
While I agree that spell-checking is a great thing for any journalist to do, I really think you should get off of this "point out every spelling error" kick, and try to come up with something like some discourse.
RE: typo
Handspring's decline
RE: Handspring's decline
Oh? I've never used a Handspring specific version of Palm Desktop (other than the one from the install CD) to Hotsync my Visors (a Deluxe then a Prism). In fact, it's the same software. The only differences I've seen is that the non-HS version tries to update the OS, which the Visors don't like. If you just drag the OS update out of your folder, it gives an error but syncs just fine. No reason to wait on a HS specific version, which is probably why they don't bother anymore.
RE: Handspring's decline
Sony's Example
RE: Sony's Example
Where are all the TROLLS????
PALM OS DOES RULE and that is an undeniable FACT. Congrats to Palm, Sony and HS for the 85% market share.
RE: Where are all the TROLLS????
RE: Where are all the TROLLS????
RE: Where are all the TROLLS????
RE: Where are all the TROLLS????
I am sure those are global definition. (but don't tell anybody about next quarter global sale, Palm might now hold up 35%)
Ed, about the Treo
RE: Ed, about the Treo
RE: Ed, about the Treo
RE: Ed, about the Treo
RE: Ed, about the Treo
>every hundred handhelds sold in March is a Treo, Sony
>does NOT overtake handspring at all.
The problem is that "mere 2 in 100" is too high an estimate. Treo sale was well under 1% of all Palm devices sold in March.
RE: Ed, about the Treo
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