Comments on: Sony Cuts Price of T615C by $100

Sony had dropped the price of the PEG-T615 to $300 on its webstore, SonyStyle. Previously, the device was selling for $400. This price is available now.

Sony has already officially discontinued the Japanese version of this model. This price drop is probably intended to reduce the company's inventory as part of preparing to discontinue it in the U.S., too. Earlier this week, Sony announced the T650C in Japan, which will almost certainly be the replacement. It has not yet been announced anywhere else.

Update: Sony has also reduced the price of the PEG-S360 by $20 to $180.

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Hopefully...

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 10:43:07 AM #

Sony will continue the T615 along with the American T650 (T665?) for a while. This would fill in the price gap between the S360 and the new model quite nicely.

RE: Hopefully...

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 1:54:04 PM #

can they afford to keep producing and selling the T615 at $299?

RE: Hopefully...

Ronin @ 6/1/2002 4:21:08 PM #

At the rate that Sony is replacing and discontinuing models the NR70V should be available for $400 or less by the end of the year. Especially once they produce a ARM based model.

Hopefully, they will stick with the same connector when switching to ARM so that there will be usable peripherals.

RE: Hopefully...

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 11:47:28 AM #

They are obviously making room for the new T-series with MP3 player. I am going to buy an NR-70v, w/ a BB warrenty. So, when there are no NR70v's left, woops, my NR breaks. ;) I'll be having a free OS 5 device. :)

Price cut on S360?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 10:49:08 AM #

Is the $179.99 price of the S360 another price cut, or was that enacted before? Sony dropped the price of the S320 to $169.99 before the release of the 360, so we might be in store for 2 new models...

RE: Price cut on S360?

Ed @ 6/1/2002 12:18:51 PM #

It's a new price. Thanks.

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Treo 90

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 11:25:47 AM #

is it dead yet? How can it compete with Sony left over price cut? I think this left over Sony and Treo is competeing for the same market space. The people who want cheap color palm replacement unit with basic function.

I hope the mantra of chicklet keyboard and free Wordsmith would work. But than again Sony will come out with their own little keyboard attachment, and time is severely limited to seel these units before consumer seriously think to wait for OS 5.0.

but than again, Sony could just buy Handspring and Palm before than at a cost of some loose change ...

RE: Treo 90

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 11:37:15 AM #

The Treo 90 might be in trouble if the T615 was going to stay $300. But it will be gone in a few weeks and the T650 will be $400 - $450.

RE: Treo 90

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 1:37:54 PM #

i dont think sony will discontinue the t615...they will keep it on the market. the T615 and the T665 will be a duo like the N610 and the N710 were last year.

RE: Treo 90

cykalan @ 6/1/2002 2:04:04 PM #

check the japan side and you will know that this is not the case.

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RE: Treo 90

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 4:56:24 PM #

The Japanese website won't necessarily corrolate to the US one...the Japanese one doesn't have a S320/360 device, and the T400 wasn't cancelled at the time when the T415 was in the US.

I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 11:52:46 AM #

$300 is a reasonable price if you own an m505. but im just wondering how it stacks up to m505s battery life. and also will the thumb mini keyboard for T650c compatible with the T615?

RE: I think im getting T615C

4s @ 6/1/2002 12:04:15 PM #

This is a good question. What ultimately made me go with the 515 was number of peripherials, although I hated to trade the hi-res screen for them.

RE: I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 12:55:28 PM #

Two things you must take serious consideration before you buy: first, the battery life is less than 5 hours continuous normal usage. If you turn off the backlight, the screen is too dark to read, different than that of m505. Second, when the battery is going to run out and gives you a low battery waring, you must get it recharged in two hours, or you will lost all data in memory and be forced a hard reset. A big bug.

RE: I think im getting T615C

big_raji @ 6/1/2002 12:58:51 PM #

>Two things you must take serious consideration before
>you buy: first, the battery life is less than 5 hours
>continuous normal usage. If you turn off the
>backlight, the screen is too dark to read, different
>than that of m505. Second, when the battery is going
>to run out and gives you a low battery waring, you
>must get it recharged in two hours, or you will lost
>all data in memory and be forced a hard reset. A big
>bug.

Do you really think the T650c will be any different? As far as I can tell, the T650c hasn't promised any changes in battery life, or screen readability with backlight off. The low battery warning is true of all Clies (I think). That's why there's a memory stick for backup.

I'm tempted to get a T615c, I'm just scared that I won't like the screen. I'm in Canada, and have never seen a T615 in person. I got burned by the T415, thinking that subpar the screen wouldn't be a big deal. I don't want to get burned by the T615.

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RE: I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 1:42:05 PM #

hey, i own a t615..ok..now..the screen isnt THAT bad..sure its a little washed out, but most colors are still viberant, and YOU CAN NOT compete with a hi res screen the hi res makes a world of difference in every program which supports it.

honestly, what i found amazing about the T615 was how awsome text looked on the screen. the white background was white, and the black text was black..it looked very sharp and crisp.

at $299, I would reccomend the T615 to anyone.

RE: I think im getting T615C

cykalan @ 6/1/2002 2:05:29 PM #

"Do you really think the T650c will be any different? As far as I can tell, the T650c hasn't promised any changes in battery life, or screen readability with backlight off. "

What i can assure you is that the T650 screen is as crisp as the NR70, just with reduced resolution. Bright, and 100% viewability under the sun.

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RE: I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 6:44:50 PM #

Not really reduced resolution, just a smaller screen. Right?

I love my T615. At $300 it's a steal. But I am seriously eyeing the 650 because of the faster processor. The 615 can be a bit pokey. And improved color fidelity would be really nice.

I am, however, seriously concerned that the battery life of the 650 can only be worse than that of the 615 because they crammed several extra power guzzlers without adding any bulk. I've got to assume that that translates into even shorter battery life, no matter what useless battery life number Sony is claiming.

RE: I think im getting a T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 7:09:21 PM #

i have a strong feeling that the T665 will cost 449 when released...but it makes sense to price it at 399. honestly, the color on the T615 doesnt bother me, and i just dont need mp3. for what i use a pda for, the t615 is perfectly priced. $299 is a freakin steal.

RE: I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 11:44:09 PM #

If you dim the brightness of the backlight to about 1/3 on the T615 you can add another 3-4 hrs of battery life over the 5 hours continuous use. It doesn't really affect the overall brightness that much. I was really dissapointed with the battery life when I first got it until I dimmed the backlight and realized it was still very usable - both battery life and readibility.

RE: I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 1:51:16 AM #

the t615s battery life isnt that bad. you can suck out about 10-11 hours depending on how bright you have it set. thats a charge every 2 days. is it really that hard to plop the thing in the cradle every night anyways? ive never seen the battery meter below 80% since i've owned the thing, and ive owned the t615 for 3 months. its a great devise, and at $299, its a steal.

RE: I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 11:07:35 AM #

"Second, when the battery is going to run out and gives you a low battery
waring, you must get it recharged in two hours, or you will lost all data in
memory and be forced a hard reset. A big bug."

I have never heard this. Has anyone else? AFAIK, the worst that happens with the Clies,
just like any other Palm, is that they refuse to turn on, but will hold your data in memory for
a good two weeks after that point. Can anyone confirm?

RE: I think im getting T615C

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 1:32:51 PM #

if your battery dies on a clie, your data is goooooooooooooone....just resync your handheld.

I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 12:59:46 PM #

I wish sony drop their memory stick and joint palm and handspring to support SDIO then I will buy Sony

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

big_raji @ 6/1/2002 1:07:23 PM #

Memory stick prices ARE cheap nowadays. Lexar and Sandisk make some that are cheaper than the SD cards of the same size.

I just want a bluetooth memory stick already... and not one that costs CDN$350+... what ever happened to "Adding Bluetooth functionality for around $10"?

Bah

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I wish Palm, Handspring drop their SD change to MSIO

cykalan @ 6/1/2002 2:06:57 PM #

I wish Palm and Handspring drop their secure digital and joint SONY to support SDIO then I will buy Palm and Handspring

Just kidding. But...
Don't you realize that what you've said is just as impossible as what i've said? :P

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RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 2:40:35 PM #

Memory $tick is as good as SD for data storage, prices are better and is is open source;

But for people that have gadgets(cameras MP3's) that aren't branded by Sony Memory $tick is not a good option.

I hope Sony also includes an SD like Handera Did. Today most cammeras and gadgets use SD/MMC. With a Clie the only way to share data is buy buying other Sony stuff that uses Memory $tick.

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

cykalan @ 6/1/2002 2:45:14 PM #

right.....i am also waiting for bluetooth.....but i want a built-in one.....not external.......

btw....typo in my last msg......"joint SONY to support MSIO"...

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RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 9:49:48 PM #

or do a handera and support both MS and SD (though handera supports compact flash instead of memory stick)

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

Wollombi @ 6/2/2002 2:24:52 AM #

>"Memory stick prices ARE cheap nowadays. Lexar and Sandisk make some that are cheaper than the SD cards of the same size."<

So what? I still can't use them for anything but a Sony (and soon maybe an Acer). Why do you think Sprinboard died? The size of the modules was a much smaller issue than the fact that they were proprietary.

>"Memory $tick is as good as SD for data storage, prices are better and is is open source"<

MemStick is *NOT* open source. It is a proprietary Sony technology that must be licensed if used by anyone else.

>"Don't you realize that what you've said is just as impossible as what i've said?"<

Actually, it's not impossible. What did Sony use before MemSticks? CF, CD-R, and other industry standards. They could easily do this again, and then be able to use all of the CF periphs that are already out there.

>"or do a handera and support both MS and SD"<

My preference is what Handera did; CF and SD. I liked the form factor of the N760C, and the size of that unit would have allowed it to house a CF and SD slot in the same configuration as the Handera (both on the top of the device, one above the other and the IR port to the left of them). CF and SD are industry standards that everyone is willing to use, and the CF slot allows me to use many peripherals that are already available. There are no MemStick peripherals on the market today (with the exception of the BT stick in Japan), but plenty that work in a CF slot. The point is that Sony handhelds already have enough features to stand out in the market without having to use something proprietary. MemStick is the primary reason I haven't bought a Sony PDA to date.

Just my $0.02. =)

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RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 3:42:13 AM #

>MemStick is *NOT* open source. It is a proprietary Sony technology that must be licensed if used by anyone else.

MemoryStick *IS* open source. http://makeashorterlink.com/?J58312AF

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 6:39:24 AM #

I just wish Handera kept coming out with newer models but I'll give them a break until after PalmOS 5 comes out. Look at all those people who pay big bucks for NR clie's which will be unable to be upgraded to PalmOS 5 or any other version after it.

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

cykalan @ 6/2/2002 6:46:20 AM #

Actually, Compact Flash and MMC are also propietary. They are proposed by SanDisk Corp. alone.

So why always argue whether propietary or not, anti-Sony trolls?

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RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 6:56:16 AM #

> Actually, Compact Flash and MMC are also propietary. >They are proposed by SanDisk Corp. alone.

>So why always argue whether propietary or not, anti-Sony >trolls?

>Alan

Dear Mr. Pro Sony Troll: Are you blind? See the facts propietary or not the only devices using Memory $tick are Sony branded devices.

MMC/SD on the other hand is used by many devices (cammeras, PPC, Palm OS, MP3s, etc).

I don't care if the media is propietary or not, or wether Mem. Stick is better or stronger. I just want to be able to share my data among my devices and my Clie.

Sorry Sony but I am not buying every thing Sony branded.

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 7:17:57 AM #

in case you didnt know..... Memorystick´s marketshare is 7 times the market share of SD flash ....

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 9:52:02 AM #

For people that want to share information among devices Memory Stick is useless.

What the use of having that market share (which i doubt) if only sony branded devices use the Memory Stick?

SD/MMC is used by Handheld computers, Cammeras, MP3 palyers, Digital recorders, etc.

There are many manufactures supporting SD/MMC(Palm, Handera, Compaq, Toshiba, Hewllet Packard, Casio and many others)

If you use memory stick and want to share info or photos among devices you are forced to buy from Sony. It is sort of monopolistick.

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 8:34:33 AM #

Does the same pro Sony troll keep posting the same Memory Stick FUD every time this topic comes up? Memory Stick is in no way, shape or form "open" in any sense of the word (unless Sony has once again changed their licensing structure very recently). If I remember the terms reasonably, Springboard and Compact Flash are "open" for developers to produce devices that connect to those slots without fee. SD and CF are "open" in the sense that you can pay a "reasonable" fee to join the respective organization and be able to provide input and vote on the standards for the format itself. Memory Stick is in neither of those categories.

RE: I wish sony drop their memory stick change to SDIO

Token User @ 6/3/2002 11:10:21 AM #

FWIW - Check out http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/1901.html.

Acer n20 and n30w (same as the n20 with integrated 802.11b) are Pocket PC PDAs with Sony Message Stick technology based around XScale (ARM Core) processors. These PDAs have specs on them I'd like to see in a PalmOS device.

I really hope that with OS5.0/6.0 that PalmOS can get ported to these machines. It'll confuse the crap out of retailers, but it would be great to walk in, buy the PDA you want, then load up the OS of choice.

It's about to hit the fan

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 7:32:21 PM #

After so many angry Sony fans have complained over their beloved pet models being superceded by yet another faster, cheaper, better PDA... Sony have decided to do the same thing to their Memory $ticks! BANG: a whole series of cameras, music devices, PDAs all became obsolete today.

sony is dumping them!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 4:40:34 PM #

Poor sony, these t615 are not selling at all. If it was selling even half-decent amount, then why drop the price all of a sudden.

RE: sony is dumping them!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 8:16:10 PM #

A price drop of $100 does seem like an awful lot, all at once. It's impossible to know how individual models are selling, since pretty much nobody releases those numbers. I don't know anybody that has a Clie other than the S series models though.

RE: sony is dumping them!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 9:47:46 AM #

>> If it was selling even half-decent amount, then
>> why drop the price all of a sudden.

Because it has been discontinued to be replaced by the T650C at the same price.

RE: look at how much it was selling in JAPAN!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 11:15:53 PM #

40,000 yen is roughly the same price as $300 before the yen appreciation.

RE: sony is dumping them!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 12:48:44 AM #

and the NR70 sells for $380 bucks in japan, so whats your point?

My point is.......

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 3:49:05 AM #

Just don't think sony is losing it shirt or making a loss by dumping them. They are still making a health and rich margin. The reduction may be huge but it is the price the Japanese have been paying since the beginning. Is that a steal? Not really, not yet.

Do expect to have another 50 dollar drop in 2 months if they cannot get rid of their entire inventory.

And also......

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 3:53:06 AM #

Price reduction is merely done to eliminate (get rid of) a machine, Not that they are not selling but just not fast enough for Sony's standards, which is about 4 machines a year

Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/1/2002 10:42:11 PM #

Big company always can do that....
down the price in the competition game, util no one
can survive.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

ssummer @ 6/1/2002 11:15:20 PM #

"Big company always can do that....
down the price in the competition game, util no one
can survive."

...then once your competitors are gone you jack the prices back up. Not to say Sony does that kind of stuff but you never know...

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 12:06:59 AM #

t615 is at $300 and Toshiba e310 is at $350.

Summer price war is here. I wonder how low color PDA will go? I would put m130 at $250, T615 at $280 and e310 at $330.

Treo 90 is dead, and so is m515 if price doesnt come down fast.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

big_raji @ 6/2/2002 12:11:00 AM #

From Sony's other electronics, I wouldn't say that "undercutting" is normal for them.

After looking at Sony DVD players, Digital Cameras, TV's, Walkmans, etc, Sony products are always priced higher than everyone else.

So why is it different for PDA's? Maybe Palm and Handspring are just ridiculously expensive?

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RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 12:16:11 AM #

Palms are ridiculously expencive...i agree. the M515 is 400 bucks? what are you getting for 400 dollars, seriously...the Toshiba e310 is the same price, and the new T650 will prolly be that price....and look at all you get. Palms definitly need to go down in price, or else every other brand will gobble them up.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

mashoutposse @ 6/2/2002 12:53:42 AM #

Palms are WAY overpriced. The m515 should be $299, if not less.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 3:02:03 AM #

That would be "Predatory Pricing" and that is against the law. The funny thing is, econmists have yet to find a single case where it was successful.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

LarryGarfield @ 6/2/2002 4:51:09 AM #

That would be "Predatory Pricing" and that is against the law. The funny thing is, econmists have yet to find a single case where it was successful.

Two words: Internet Explorer.

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RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 6:34:09 AM #

the treo 90 is designed for the vast majority of people who know how to use a keyboard and aren't proficient at grafitti or any other handwriting recognition. It's an entry level device. Unlike the Sony NR series it is light and not so expensive. Nobody else is going after this market yet

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 8:16:05 AM #

Treo 90 is just a way to sell left over treo 270 just in case they are a flop. Everything is the exact same like 270 except casing and with the radio transceiver ripped out and SD slot put in.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 9:40:41 AM #

No way. The T615 has been discontinued and Sony is selling off their remaining inventory. The T615 will be gone in a few weeks. It will hurt sales of other models during that time but when the T650 comes out at $400 -$450, everything will be back to normal.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

big_raji @ 6/2/2002 9:59:36 AM #

I just read that the T650c will be selling for 40,000yen, or $320US in Japan.

Is this lower than what the T615c sold for when it first came out?

Does this mean that the device may be priced at $300US when it reaches north america?

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RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

Ed @ 6/2/2002 11:29:07 AM #

The T600C was introduced in Japan at 40,000 Yen, the same price the T650C is coming out at.

www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=2654

This might be an indication that the T650C will be introduced in the U.S. at the same price the T615C was: $400.

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RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 11:49:59 AM #

Predatory Pricing works EXACTLY as it is supposed to.

Why is that when you go to an airport, you have one major option (depending on your region....mine happens to be Michigan, which is dominated by Northworst Airlines), you don't have 8 other viable options?

A small airline moves in, sells trips to Florida for $200 round-trip. Northwest drops their price from $350 down to $150, puts the smaller company outta business, then Northwest jacks the price back up to $350.

Clue up, pal. That trick works like a CHARM. Again, and again, and again.

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 1:29:12 PM #

The NR70 is $380 bucks in japan...these things are just cheaper over there....

also, Sony may be able to crush handspring, but its still Palms OS...Palm branded PDAs arent goin anywhere...

RE: Crush m515 and Treo 90?

DingoFish @ 6/3/2002 9:10:01 AM #

"Two words: Internet Explorer."

These two words would only be significant if MS decided to charge for IE. But since it's free this really doesn't fall under the category of predatory pricing.

Post good deals here...

rsuplido @ 6/2/2002 7:44:26 AM #

Circuit City is selling the T615 at 299.99 with a $25 rebate. ($25 rebate on all PDAs this week).

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RE: Post good deals here...

tpipher @ 6/3/2002 4:51:41 PM #

I have a 615 and my wife will not touch her Palm 515, So I ended up using her's. SO I went today to Best Buy and bought a 615 for 299.00 by making them call and do a price match at Circuit City! Now I have a 615 of my own! :-)

Just bought a new t615c.....TOO SOON!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 8:15:21 AM #

I just bought a new t615c the day before the price cut announcement. Boy, was I ever ticked. I paid the old price of $399.99. I wish I would have seen it coming. I could have saved some serious pocket change. Oh well...

RE: Just bought a new t615c.....TOO SOON!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 8:48:09 AM #

You can usually claim the difference back within 30 days in most shops.

Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 8:49:28 AM #

Okay. It's now $300, $275 at Circuit City. That's a fairly attractive price cut and for those of us that have been holding out for a color pda at a good price, well...it's decision time. My question to you T615 owners is this: is this a good pda? Was it worth the $400 you paid? Would we holdouts be fools to pass this deal up? What do you owners think? Thanks.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 9:10:16 AM #

yes

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 9:43:44 AM #

Don't think its a good time for hard core Palm users to buy a handheld. OS 5 is too close. Told all my friends who've been thinking about a handheld about the t615 deal. Its perfect for them.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 10:41:45 AM #

I traded a M500 in for a M515 the day the 515 came out (love Palm) but a week later I saw the 615 and the 515 went to my wife. Now 3 months later I would do it all over again. The only difference is I would have an extra 100 in my pocket for accesories!!! :-)

Once you have a Sony Hi-Res you will NEVER go back! I get agrivated over the lack of accesories for the Sony's but I could NOT go back to a palm. @ 299, come on guys get a life! If you want color on a budget you just have not got a choice!

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 11:43:42 AM #

OS 5 isn't going to be that big of a deal. This price setting, however, is a GREAT deal. You'll be very happy with your T615C.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 11:47:55 AM #

I went from a M505 to a T615c to an NR70 and couldn't be any happier. Once you go "hi-res" you will not want to go back. For me the T615c is still a great PDA and now comes with a good assortment of cases. The price for memory sticks has dropped and as far as accessories, I understand that there a still a few, but I feel for the manufacturers because Sony keeps coming out with new models - they're driving them CRAZY! I'm very happy with my NR70, but that's a totally different animal.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 1:23:44 PM #

$299 is an amazing price for this thing...shoot-if sony lowered it down to $349, that still would have been amazing! OS 5 wont be anything big...to me, the only thing OS5 will do is make Palms more like Clies. in terms of hi res screens, better multimedia, and faster processors...nothing new for sony clie owners.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 2:42:10 PM #

Having had Palms from the beginning (Pilot 5000, Palm Pilot Professional and Palm V), I held on to my Palm V waiting for something truly better. My wife purchased a Palm m505 and replaced it with a Clie N610.

When I saw the T615C, I knew I found the best replacement. $399 was well worth the price. Color, Hi-Res, and the best speaker for a Palm OS device in a thin package. $299 is a steal.

Buy one while you can. I don't know if I would spend an extra $100 for built-in MP3 (I don't think there are really any other real features in the American T650).

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 5:06:58 PM #

the t650 has a better screen, 66mhz processor, and an improved speaker, plus MP3...well worth the extra $100.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/2/2002 5:39:55 PM #

It's a great deal! Don't pass it up. I love my T615. I would purchase it again at the $400 price.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 10:55:32 PM #

I was gonna get a Handera 330 but I think with these new sony models they are finally history. I waited and waited and waited for a color H330 and nothing. They are not even usin OS 4.0 yet and price on their un-updated website is $329.00!!! Are they F@%#!ing crazy? For a 2 year old OS 3.4 unsupported screen B&W peice of crap IIIxe? Friggen clueless no wonder they are in IOWA or Idaho or some god-forsaken cow pasture.

I am gonna grab a T615C, MP3 is no big deal rather save money.

RE: Attention T615C owners!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/4/2002 10:50:20 PM #

I'm original poster. Thanks for all the comments. I took your advice and just bought a T615 at Circuit City tonight...$275 with rebate. Haven't had time to charge it up yet but I can see I won't miss my S320 any. Thanks again.

Na, T615C is not for me.

popko @ 6/3/2002 12:37:16 AM #

I know my 760 is showing its age, but there still isn't anything out there that can beat it in terms of functionality and battery life. I'll pass (again) this time and will wait for somthing that's ***really better*** to come out before dumping my good old 760.

RE: Na, T615C is not for me.

popko @ 6/3/2002 12:41:47 AM #

Oops, meant to say that nither the T615 nor the new T650 has win my heart.

RE: Na, T615C is not for me.

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 12:46:24 AM #

what about the NR70? When OS 5 comes out i am sure that its price will be reduced to $399.....

What about the PEG-T415/PEG-T425

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 7:34:04 AM #

Hi!

How is the monochrome sibling of the T615C affected by the revamping of the PEG-T6xx family?

Will there be an update to the T4xx family too?
Any chances for a brighter screen?

How come I don't find the PEG-T415 on the U.S. Sony Style website? Are monochrome PDAs already dead in the US?

Pierre.

RE: What about the PEG-T415/PEG-T425

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 8:09:29 AM #

We went looking for T415's about a week ago, trying to get about 50 or so for an incoming class of students. They might as well have never existed. Sony themselves said they had none in stock whatsoever, and most of the retail places we called acted like they'd never even heard of them.

RE: What about the PEG-T415/PEG-T425

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 8:51:13 AM #

The T415 was DOA. With a screen that was unreadable in most any condition and worse than any monochrome screen to date, I am at a loss as to why the device was ever brought to market. I certainly wouldn't buy them for your students, unless you have something against them.

RE: What about the PEG-T415/PEG-T425

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/3/2002 9:15:48 AM #

To the teacher: I've seen several T415s at CompUSA; they don't advertise them, but they are in the case. I've been eyeing them, and *almost* bought last week. Time to go back and get the T615C!