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RE: Ho hum... no Mac!
RE: Mac version?
We have been encouraged to see the resurgence in interest in the MacOS following the OS X introduction and the recent iMac, and we are exploring the issue. We certainly know there is a growing community of PalmOS device users who find the marriage of their handheld with their favorite desktop OS to be a match made in heaven.
Cutting Edge, Inc.
It's a pity, too - I bought Quickword way back when, and would prefer it, but they just won't take mac users into consideration. Now I use Wordsmith (or Zdocm -- it's totally free!)
RE: Ho hum... no Mac!
VFS support?
RE: VFS support?
RE: VFS support?
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RE: VFS support?
RE: VFS support?
My experience has been that there is nothing preventing the storage of most applications on the card even if the app itself supports VFS. By and large the determining factor is whether the app has a conduit which works with hotsync and whether that conduit will continue to work without the application present in internal memory. For example, iSilo 3.11 can utilize VFS for its data files and has a hotsync conduit, however, I am able to store the application on the card and the conduit still functions. This works just as well (and without exception) with programs that do not have a conduit.
Hope this helps.
RE: VFS support?
While they have finally added some VFS/SD support, it is still very poor! Yes, you can transfer data files to and from external cards and it is better than no support, but it took a minute and 30 seconds to transfer my 98K spreadsheet to SD on a Palm 505 with FastCPU clocking everything at max! This is totally unacceptable and makes their SD support just about useless. The only real reason to support SD is to allow us to keep the larger files outside of normal memory but if the transfer speed is so ridiculous, it makes it mostly unusable. Also, if you transfer a data file to SD, you can not do anything with it without sending it back to RAM. While I understand the need to move it back to RAM to change the contents, it is impossible to do even simple things like checking or changing properties while the file is on a card. Again, if the transfer speed is so slow, why bother?
I used to like Quick Word. I switched to WordSmith last year for word processing because WordSmith has excellent support for an external keyboard support and Quick Word does not! 6.0 still lacks proper support.
I tried Tiny Sheet by iambic as a replacement for Quick Sheet. Tiny Sheet can load the same 98K spread sheet in about two seconds from RAM compared with 30 seconds for Quick Sheet. Unfortunately, Tiny Sheet is so bug ridden, I will not buy it or use it until it is stable. It does prove that speed is a coding issue and not a limitation of the Palm platform.
I probably will continue to support Quick Office, but I am losing patience with the developers. My hope is that their competition will improve to the point that there is a real alternative and I can switch everything over to something else.
RE: VFS support?
Looks like I'll keep on using PowerRun (and wait for everything to load into & delete from RAM) for programs that don't truely support VFS. :(
RE: VFS support?
RE: VFS support?
You always could. The OS limitation is that you loose conduit connectivity. However that can be restored by either using something like a Launcher III stub, or AutoCard/MSMount/PiDirect.
RE: VFS support?
90 seconds is pretty rough. A 131k sheet in DTG takes 3.8 seconds, and a similar sheet (with 8,000 filled cells, special formatting and colors for each cell)takes 20 seconds in MiniCalc 6.4
RE: VFS support?
Expensive upgrade
****** Pilot 5000 => Palm Pilot III => Palm Vx => M505 - I´ve had them all and loved each one of them.
RE: Expensive upgrade
With 5.6.4 already providing Hi-Res on the Quicksheet it becomes tempting to pay the extra and go for Wordsmith for the Word processing side, although it would mean missing out on VFS support for Quickoffice.
RE: Expensive upgrade
RE: Expensive upgrade
RE: Expensive upgrade
RE: Expensive upgrade, no free Handera upgrade
RE: Expensive upgrade
What did you expect? Free upgrades for life???
> Further their is no mention of any Handera 330
> specific updates and or features.
Did you try reading the features they list on their website or the copies of the v6.0 manual they have for download? Apparently not.
> DO we take this or do an Iambic on their [...]
Get a life. Your version 5.6.x hasn't stopped working, and Cutting Edge produces a product worth paying for.
RE: Expensive upgrade
I am seriously considering keeping QuickSheet but switching to WordSmith instead.
thanks yv
- yv@laposte.net
RE: Expensive upgrade
@sumisu: Thanks for your TIO QO 6 is free within a year
thanks for your tip with the free upgrade within a year. I bought the quickoffice exactly a year ago and today I got the upgrade link and that works fine and free for me, so I think that it is worth to pay 20USD for 1-2 years....
THANKS from GERMANY
Wordsmith still has the edge
RE: Wordsmith still has the edge
Think I'll continue to limp with QuickOffice 5.x bundled with my HandEra, and wait for a spreadsheet from the folks that know how to do multi-platform HighRes, and VFS.
RE: Wordsmith still has the edge
RE: Wordsmith still has the edge
RE: Wordsmith still has the edge
Regarding Hi-Res support however, there is one important constraint : Asian language support must be TURNED OFF. I have CJKOS installed which lets me use Chinese, Japanese, Korean fonts and input, and this can be turned on/off any time on a regular English system. But that is not enough for WordSmith to switch to Hi-Res mode.
Not so with QuickWord, which works without a glitch. I hate to say this because I still think their pricing policy is unreasonable.
Yv - yv@laposte.net
Hi-Res Support???
Quicksheet hires support was great. I could fit more information on the screen on my Clie.
Quickword hires support seemed non-existant. Perhaps I dismissed it too quickly, but I couldn't find any way to make the fonts smaller.
By looking at the screenshots, it looks like Quickword's hires support hasn't greatly improved. The fonts look like they're smoother thanks to hires, but they don't look like they can get smaller to fit more on the screen.
Can anyone confirm this? Perhaps I'll try to download the demo tonight at home, but I'd imagine that since my trial on Quickoffice 5 ran out, something in my Palm will show that, and I probably won't be able to run a trial for Quickoffice 6.
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RE: Hi-Res Support???
From miniscule to massive, you can pick the size you want, and use ZoomView to step through eleven zoom levels.
Mike Compeau
Cutting Edge Software
RE: Hi-Res Support-- ALL there
No, I've never had a sync problem with Quickoffice and I've lost files with Document To Go, so for me I will stick with QuickOffice.
RE: Hi-Res Support???
RE: Hi-Res Support???
RE: Hi-Res Support???
All that means is that the FontBucket app itself will not display the fonts in high resolution when you look at their examples... Not a big deal, really.
I want to know too
The main reason for me to use QWord is to use non-proportional fonts for specific text display that needs to be aligned. And I need to fit as much as possible so I don't care much about font antialiasing, all I need is to pack more characters on each line.
Can s.o. confirm whether it really does that (rather than just nicer/smoother rendition?)
thanks yv
- yv@laposte.net
font size 8 upwards ?
BTW, I use HKfont (6 pts) QWord 5.6 could only display 38 characters (i.e. 38x5 pixels + scroll bar). Can QWord now deliver 77 characters in HiRes?
I am wondering given that its font management software can only convert fonts of size 8 and upwards?
thanks yv
- yv@laposte.net
RE: Hi-Res Support???
But then the FontBucket fonts are pixel doubled on a Sony device in HiRes mode. Not as clean as standard Sony HiRes fonts, right?
Quicksheet - Cell Overflow
RE: Quicksheet - Cell Overflow
That's really the only thing I don't like about the Suite.
RE: Quicksheet - Cell Overflow
Sounds interesting, I wish I had it too!
Whatever it is.
Thanks,
Spell Checking and More
2 Questions:
1) Does QuickWord offer spellchecking?
2) Have you guys added cell spillover?
RE: Spell Checking and More
Even the latest versions of QuickOffice 5 do. Appears to be the same engine as WordSmith uses (a 3rd party source).
THANK YOU CESINC
poor Syncronization.
Quick Office removes most formatting from documents. I just hope Docs to Go adds more features to their word processor and suport for high res +.
RE: poor Syncronization.
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RE: poor Syncronization.
RE: poor Syncronization.
RE: poor Syncronization.
That's impossible because the it is stated in CESINC site. That's why Quick Sheet offers the feature of opening a sheet over another, because the original is stripped of formatting.
Also Quick Ward strips most formattin including tables of content and tables.
direct word file???
RE: direct word file???
QWord: It stores the file as HTML i.e. ASCII
Word = mumbo jumbo (or at least it looks like that when you force open a Word file with a text editor ... but as I am not a techee I just call it mumbo - jumbo seems to be a combination of weird charchters at the top and bottom of the file (formatting stuff) and ascii in the middle your file - perhaps its binary.
RE: direct word file???
RE: direct HTML file!!!
How'd they do that, but can't open HTML file on the card??
QuickSheet & Landscape Display on SONY HiRes+?
QuickSheet is able to do this on the Handera but Iambic's new HiRes+ version of TinySheet cannot do this on the SONY NR70.
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: QuickSheet & Landscape Display on SONY HiRes+?
just 4 fun
Question. If you can't take an UZI with you what do you take? A pocket gun
Question: If you can't take a sword with you, what do you take? A knife (pocket sword).
Question: If you can't take office with you, what do you take? POCKET OFFICE!(not quickoffice)
Question. If you can't take a PC with you, what do you take? A Pocket pc!
Sorry. just being humurous
RE: just 4 fun
Read the below carefully:
***If I wanted to take a PC with me, I'd take a laptop.***
PPC's do approximate pocket-PC functionality, with drawbacks of cost, size, and battery life. PPC's are undoubtedly the best solution for some people- but to pretend that they are the best solution for all PDA-users is utter idiocy.
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