Comments on: Palm Lowers Price on m515

With the release of the Palm's first OS 5 handheld coming near the end of next month, Palm has reduced the price of its current high-end model, the m515. This handheld has dropped from $400 to $350, the first price reduction it has seen since its release this Spring.

The company has not dropped the price of its wireless handheld, the i705. Palm will also be announcing the Tungsten W late next month, a wireless handheld that is a noticeable improvement over the i705.

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why would people buy this?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:10:12 PM #
Will you spend $350 for a 1-year-old modle, or $299 for the latest Sony Clie SJ30, for a plus of HiRes screen, nothhing wrose than the m515 ??

RE: why would people buy this?
TDS Computer @ 9/27/2002 1:15:31 PM #
The M515 is a gorgeous handheld! It runs nearly 100% of the available software for the PalmOS and is quite expandable with its SD card. Not everyone needs a PDA with every feature in the world thrown in. Sometimes they need a small, lightweight PDA for keeping track of information. I would wager that this PDA would fit the bill for lots of people.
Remember, the posters on Palminfocenter are the exception, not the rule, when it comes to PDA usage. We are generally power users, and we are not a huge market share for Palm.

Visit us at www.tdscomputer.com
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:19:14 PM #
I do really think that $350 is very steep for the technology in the m515. I had no idea that they were still $400 for this long. It just proves how much brand names will get you. If a business professional is looking to jump into the PDA market, he/she will give up $350 to get an 'executive' model such as the m515 before even looking at those 'toys' that Sony makes. Of course, most don't realize that the Sony, Handspring, and Handera all run the same software... so the extra money for the m515 will be worth it in the long run when they are able to get more software. (sarcasm)

"I see software for Palms everywhere, but I almost never see software for the Sony models. That is why I'll pay more money for the Palm."

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:30:47 PM #
One reason why this is worth the price is the form factor. If you have never owned one and are stictly looking at specs then you would not understand this. If you lives with one in your hand and pocket for a couple months, then you would know why it is worth the extra few bucks. I agree hi-res screen would be nice, bit I would take a M515 over an S30 any day. The sad thing is that the M5xx form factor seems to being going by by. This is too bad.
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:53:35 PM #
Have you actually tried SJ30? It's not much bigger or heavier than 515. Of course, you would get tons of more features than 515 including high resolution. Besides, a friend of mine just got one for $250. Now you could use $100 to buy a nice case and a program or two.
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 2:02:56 PM #
As a sony lover, I have to admit, the M515 really is a beautiful handheld. It has metal casing I believe, not like the cheapo plastic on the SJ30. Sure the SJ30 has more and better features, but looks wise, it just doesn't cut it. ALso quality wise, I would say the M515 looks to be a much more stable unit.
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 2:03:09 PM #
Toshiba E310 goes for $250 in most big stores after rebate. Why would anybody even buy m515, or even the m130?
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 2:04:38 PM #
There are only 2 things keeping the m515 from being a perfect (IMHO, for my needs) totally pocketable handheld.

The lack of the m505's backlit Grafitti area and a slightly longer-life battery (I like to have the brightness cranked up). Otherwise, it's a top-notch unit in all regards. It's probably the most elegant handheld ever made (I never liked the V's black buttons) and for many, many folks, that's all that matters.

m515 still pricey with discount
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 2:19:03 PM #
With only a $50 reduction the m515 is still too high. It's a great PDA still even with the new handhelds coming out. The Zire and Tungsten will be out as well as the wireless device, but I think the m515 is still a quality device that has life. But still pricey.
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 2:26:38 PM #
Because it is profesional looking,
Because it is slimmer.

But those are superficial, Main reasons are:
Because Palm take care of its customers WAY better than Sony.
Problem with Palm, the send you a replacement before you send yours in.
Sony will keep you from your device for a couple of weeks, while you wait for a repair, no "loaner" PDA.

When you have real work to get done, service is far more important than resolution. (Oh and you can see a few more cells in quicksheet on a Sony. big deal.)

Just to let you know I have a PalmV and a Sony 760.
I like my Sony, Love the screen, I will get the new NR not the Tungsten.
But I fully understand why others chose Palm.

I want to cry...
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 2:41:42 PM #
How many people out there thinks "Palm softwares" are for Palm only, not for SONY Clie or HangSpring Treo?

How many people think those software will work for Palm modles only??

How many people out there realize the "backup card", "game card", "ebook card" made by Palm are actually the same expantion cards, thrown in different software and make them "sounds" pretty, and they can be actually be done in one single card?

sad, sad, sad... ...

RE: why would people buy this?
jontz @ 9/27/2002 2:51:11 PM #
Why would people buy this? Form factor. I agree that it is still too pricey, but some people really like the size/weight/button placement of the m515. Just a thought. Remember, just because you don't like a design doesn't mean that everyone else dislikes it too.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 3:21:02 PM #
You guys are crazy. A Toshiba e310 can be had for as low as $199.99 after rebates. 206Mhz, Mp3, 32MB Rom/32MB Ram, great color screen come on. Why in the F would anyone buy a POS ancient Palm OS4.0 machine? Only worse deal is an even older POS OS3.5 Handera for $299.99, I cant believe they have the guts to post that on their website. Palm better get it right (OS and hardware) or they are dead this time.
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 3:35:04 PM #
>Why in the F would anyone buy a POS ancient Palm OS4.0 machine?

So they don't have to deal with clutter and bloatware.

BUTTONS
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 3:36:02 PM #
The reason people love the Palms is the buttons. I looked at the SJ30 yesterday it was nice, great screen, but the buttons sucked. One press of one of the buttons and you hit the other. When sony realizes this then they will be much better off. The other thing I don't understand is why does everything think that palm won't sell the 515's ? The best form factor, same memory as the new ones, and still I would say one of the best sellers out there. Because of that why should palm drop it so much. Not everyone wants a camera, i already have one don't need one on my pda ;)
RE: why would people buy this?
Altema @ 9/27/2002 3:40:47 PM #
"You guys are crazy. A Toshiba e310 can be had for as low as $199.99 after rebates. 206Mhz, Mp3, 32MB Rom/32MB Ram, great color screen come on."

Yes, the hardware is great, so why would anyone settle for less hardware?

The reason is because there are people who, no matter what it runs on or how cheap it is, do NOT want Windows on their handheld.

Microsoft can't grasp this concept. It is utterly unthinkable that any human being would prefer anything else. Six months was supposed to be the "takeover handheld universe" timeframe. What year is it now?

I appreciate the hardware advances, even if PPC profit margins are cut to the teeth to get more people to buy them. However, you can't force people to buy what they don't want, and a lot of people don't want PPC because of the OS and software. The hardware is not the issue.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 4:05:35 PM #
>> "Toshiba E310 goes for $250 in most big stores after rebate. Why would anybody even buy m515, or even the m130?" <<

And the Pocket PC trolls rear their ugly heads...

To start with, PPC is a joke. It's buggy, more difficult to use, buggy, lousy on battery life, and oh, wait...BUGGY!

PPC users marvel at how "thin" the e310 is. Big deal! It's still big. Do yourself a favor--go to CompUSA and hold an e310 side-by-side with a Visor Prism. You'll find that they-re essentially the same size, regardless of what the specs say. The e310 is thinner--that's all.

Granted, Toshiba did well to do this "with a Pocket PC." But it's still a PPC, which means it's crap. And crap isn't a value, no matter how cheap.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 4:16:42 PM #
"You guys are crazy. A Toshiba e310 can be had for as low as $199.99 after rebates. 206Mhz, Mp3, 32MB Rom/32MB Ram, great color screen come on..."

Yeah, PocketPCs are just wonderful, aren't they? My e740 was so wonderful that a week after I bought it I exchanged it for a Treo 90. I don't want another Windows machine, I want a PDA that does exactly what it was intended to do. If I wanted a mini game machine, I'd buy a Gameboy Advance.

RE: why would people buy this?
Strider_mt2k @ 9/27/2002 4:31:07 PM #
Because it's a great handheld!


strider_mt2k@yahoo.com

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 4:33:14 PM #
How are all the 10 year olds on this board buying such expensive toys?
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 4:45:50 PM #
Too much palm Trolls and PPC trolls here .... But it's always fun to see ppeople without a brain bashing each other.
RE: why would people buy this?
wwiiolds @ 9/27/2002 5:05:55 PM #
I just bought an m515 two weeks ago for $360 and free shipping off Dell's site. Let me tell you, I am no PDA newbie as I read PIC more then once a day, everyday. I looked at the m515, T665, and SJ30, and while the latter two trounced the m515 for features, the m515 beat them both in looks and style. Superficial and shallow? Of course. But I could not be happier with my purchase and it will get at least a year's use out of it before I see what OS6 handhelds are on the horizon.

By then we should see more then built-in 16mb and won't be hit with the early adopter tax, so I new that if you are buying on OS4.1 handheld, get one that is usable and pleasing to the eye over one that IMO, is ugly (T665) or chunky (SJ30). The peripherals are plentiful as well, as I got a keyboard and Kensington hard case also.

By the way, I am a longtime Sony fan. Only previous handheld was S320 and reliability was unbeatable... Hopefully my m515 is the same.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 5:32:27 PM #
Just wondering, if all rumours are correct, how Palm managed to offer hi-res & colour on a OS4.1 device in Tungsten W?
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 5:56:56 PM #
>>ALso quality wise, I would say the M515 looks to be a much more stable unit.

hmmmmmm. i like palm, but: i have a freind who bouaht an m505 with the crappy, dim screen. 1 week later the m515 came out. he exchanged the m505 and got the m515 and the screen was indeed bright and more evenly lit, however, 2 weeks later he accidently dropped it into his pool . The unit he got after that had horrible shadowing on the edges of the screen (looked as bad as m505). 3 units later (ALL has the same kind of problems, inlucing one with dead pixels) he gave up. Thats quality? I am blown away by how lame the QA is on these devices. We have 320x480 screens out there, and Palm can't make 2 units (w/screens of 160x160) the same. Each one was crappy in a slightly different way. Unbeleivable disapointment.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 6:51:11 PM #
I currently own an m505 and have been offered a very good price for it by a co-worker who doesn't mind the dim screen.

A few questions for those that have upgraded from the 505 to the 515:

How does the 515's battery life w/ backlight set to the low setting compare to the 505's battery life w/ the backlight constantly on?

Is the Grafitti area visible/usable in total darkness (like, in bed) with the brightness cranked up all the way? Does it produce enough ambient light?

Finally, does anyone here regularly overclock their m515? I like to run my games and Kinoma a tad faster than default--say, 38 mhz or so. Has anyone ever compared the extra drain on the batteries of both m5xx units?

Thanks!

RE: why would people buy this?
wondertwinzz @ 9/27/2002 6:55:51 PM #
I bought my 515 at Staples about 2 months ago for $295 (Internet price match) and am very happy with it for that price. The form factor is elegant and practical and it does everything I want it to (e-books, date book, addresses, games, and on...).

My decision was between the 515 and the Sony T-615, and for me, the button design, UC, and battery life issues were the deciding factors. The 515 isn't flashy, just rock solid at what it does, and good-looking to boot.

My question is why anyone would want to buy that finger-pinching Tungsten T thing? Sure, the guts sound nice, but the design is just impractical and gimmicky. Palm should have stuck with a classier, one-piece look and made the innovations where they count most (virtual grafitti, jog dial, etc.)

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 8:38:44 PM #
I will never buy a unit with 160x160 screen resolution again.... Once you get used to 320x320..there's no way back!!
RE: why would people buy this?
Altema @ 9/27/2002 8:41:22 PM #
"How does the 515's battery life w/ backlight set to the low setting compare to the 505's battery life w/ the backlight constantly on?"

Better, by about 15% even though the brightness is about twice of the 505. On high, it will be less than the 505. I use the high setting only once in a while, like in some board rooms, offices, and stores that have a strange effect on screen brightness. I went through six 505's, so I had plenty to compare with...

"Is the Grafitti area visible/usable in total darkness (like, in bed) with the brightness cranked up all the way? Does it produce enough ambient light?"

It's usable, but does not stand out like the 505. Of course, there IS no other handheld with a backlit hard grafitti area.

"Finally, does anyone here regularly overclock their m515? I like to run my games and Kinoma a tad faster than default"

I have FastCPU which I bought mostly for TealMovie. Kinoma Player runs fine without FastCPU. Sometimes I'll kick it up to 40 or 50Mhz just for kicks, but keep it at the usual 33Mhz because everything is pretty much instant anyways. That is, unless I'm working on a laptop-choking spreadsheet or my relational database is way past due on it's archive appointment. Slight increase in battery drain at 38Mhz, more noticable battery drain above 40Mhz.

RE: why would people buy this?
Altema @ 9/27/2002 8:58:52 PM #
"I will never buy a unit with 160x160 screen resolution again.... Once you get used to 320x320..there's no way back!!"

Yeah, it's pretty tough once you get used to it. That's why I'm making sure my next device is a good one so I won't have to revert. Only one thing stopped my from going 320x320 already: The way I use my handheld it would be dead before lunch, as opposed to still at 75% at the end of the day like my current device.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 10:04:42 PM #
Most people mention the vastly improved screens of the Sony's, as compared to the Palm m5x5's.

I personally couldn't go back to that crappy beep beep that the Palms offer, after having Polyphonic sound on a T665.

Between having built in MP3, Hi Res, MUCH better alarm sounds, and jog wheel, I just can't understand ANYONE choosing the M5x5's over a Sony.

Crummy stylus? Crummy up/down buttons? Yeah... but what you get in exchange far outweights (for me, anyway) what you give up in a "nice stylus/buttons"!

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 12:58:09 AM #
The Palm m515 was low-tech, low-perfomance when it was released. For most techno-idiots this is the perfect device because it DOESN'T do anything special.

I think the Sony T-series kick the m515 6 ways to Sunday in form factor and features. The m515 is way to wide to be held comfortably, unlike the T series with JOG dial.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 1:22:01 AM #
>The m515 is way to wide to be held comfortably

Don't worry, your hands will get bigger when you grow up. Hope your spelling also improves.

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 3:18:04 AM #
What mispelling are you talking about?! the accidentally dropped 'r' in performance which is a typing error not a 'misspelling' or did you think you found a misspelling when in actually your vocabulary is what is at fault?
RE: why would people buy this?
iebnn @ 9/28/2002 1:37:23 PM #
"Oh and you can see a few more cells in quicksheet on a Sony. big deal"

Try 4x as many, if you keep the scale 1x1 for the cells

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 2:17:40 PM #
LoL ..
you get better screen on Clie Big DEAL
you get better sound on Clie Big DEAL
you get jogdial on Clie Big DEAL
you get cooler design on Clie Big DEAL
you get Clie for cheaper Big DEAL
you get camera on Clie Big DEAL
you get mp3 on Clie Big DEAL
you get better bundled apps on Clie Big DEAL

I get better buttons on Palm ..... LoL .....

RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 5:54:49 PM #
Yes, and you get crashes from Sony's implementation of 320*320, short battery life, heavier and bigger unit, no support from Sony. Bottom line: if you want a toy, get a Sony. It's your choice, but don't try to forcefeed me your nonsense.
RE: why would people buy this?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 6:23:26 PM #
Palm's support doesn't sound any better anyway, how long did it take for them to admit the USB Sync problem on the M505 device ?

Nobody is force feeding you with anything, we are just tell you the truth. The truth is Palm's PDA are over priced, yeah seriously over priced. we I doesn't like PPC, but look at Toshiba e310, for christ sake you could possibily get it for 200 dollars at office depot now, and the stupid m515 is selling for WHAT !? 350 !? .... ARE YOU KIDDING ME !? the toshiba e310 is superior than Palm M515 in anyway possible (except maybe the OS that's a personal preference) and selling for like 150 less .... go figure.

I Love the Palm m515. You don't have to.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/30/2002 10:31:56 PM #
Yes, I've actually tried the SJ30. I wasn't impressed.

I carry the Palm (starting with the V) in a shirt or suit pocket, daily, all day long. And dispite what some think, "almost" the size of a V/5x5 just doesn't cut it.

And I'm not a "Techno-Idiot", and I *don't* need an MP3 player or camera to do business. I do need a solid PDA, and it doesn't have to play games. (I also don't need a cellphone that plays games or has 1,000 ring tones.)

Now I'm sure there are those that need such features and just *must* have a 320x320 screen and a 225MHz processor, yadda yadda. That's fine. Get what you want, or what you need.

But there is absolutely no reason for *me* to get something I *don't* want because some pre-pubescent pinheads (Slayer rulz!) feel that their PDA de jour is the only possible choice for everyone else. Kids strive for status in the strangest ways.

There are just not enough adults here to wedge a foot up the poor excuse for a brain center, so the adults can *discuss* without their whiney rants.

RE: why would people buy this?
Altema @ 10/1/2002 9:37:31 PM #
"you get better screen on Clie Big DEAL"
yep

"you get better sound on Clie Big DEAL"
yep, but not as loud and uses more power

"you get jogdial on Clie Big DEAL"
yep

"you get cooler design on Clie Big DEAL"
personal opinion, majority differs

"you get Clie for cheaper Big DEAL"
yep, depending on the model

"you get camera on Clie Big DEAL"
one model only, the most expensive Palm OS device ever

"you get mp3 on Clie Big DEAL"
yep

"you get better bundled apps on Clie Big DEAL"
Palm: DTG Professional, Clie: DTG Standard. gMovie is obsolete and been replaced by Kinoma Player, which is free. Photo viewer, remote, and other apps are cool though.

I think we are missing the point that these handhelds are aimed at different markets. Palm takes aim at the business user, Sony takes aim at students and those more enterested in entertainment and gadgets. They both do a good job, even if they do not appeal to the opposing groups.

Think of it like this (but only if you are not married!): Palm is a great secretary who is attractive and knows how to have fun at times. Sony is a great girlfriend who can also do secretarial work.

PS: No flame intended, just pointing out some reasons for differing preferences. I myself would have the Sony if it was equipped more for business. We don't have to hate everyone who has a different opinion.

Swap

sandbuck @ 9/27/2002 1:10:12 PM #
I may eBay my 505 now, pick up a refurb 515, and hunker down for the 2nd wave of OS 5 devices next year.

RE: Swap
Moosecat @ 9/27/2002 1:19:38 PM #
That's exactly what I did (except I'm giving away my m505). I want to get a little more use out of the PPK, case, and other stuff I bought for the m505 before jumping to something else.

Plus, I get a technology allowance at work and the m515 was free for me. Heh heh.. Forgot to mention that minor detail. (Of course, I could also have waited and used my allowance on an OS5 device instead.)

RE: Swap
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:26:55 PM #
maybe wait for the OS6 devices?
RE: Swap
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:33:03 PM #
"That's exactly what I did (except I'm giving away my m505). I want to get a little more use out of the PPK, case, and other stuff I bought for the m505 before jumping to something else."

That's one of the reasons I haven't give away my m515 yet. I have a lot of accesories (2 64MB memory cards, 1 BackUp Card, Bluetooth Card, PPK & Case, Slim leather Case, Belt Case, Pilot Pentopia Stylus, Brando's screen protector, Seiko ThumBoard, 2 USB Cradles, 1 Serial HotSync Cable, 1 USB Charger/HotSync cable, Margi SD Presenter To Go..) and I just can't decide myself if selling it to get one of the new generation or to keep this one. :(

RE: Swap
TDS Computer @ 9/27/2002 1:42:14 PM #
For the poster above, i would bet tht all of the accessories you mentioned that you have for the M515 would work on the next generation of Palm devices, except the case and maybe the keyboard. I am glad Palm is standardizing a little bit on the hardware for their latest PDA's. It makes life easier.


Visit us at www.tdscomputer.com

RE: Swap
mwilhelm @ 9/27/2002 1:46:42 PM #
For now, maybe. Remember that the Zire looks not to have the 4 buttons and the UC. Very non-standard. Maybe appropriate for its level, but non-standard none-the-less and what's next?

Mark

RE: Swap
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 3:04:05 PM #
Mark, whether you are doing it deliberatly or not, you are spreading FUD. (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) Palm is announcing three models next month. Just one of them is a really cheap model designed to sell at Target and doesn't have all the features of mid-range and high-end models. From that, you are drawing the conclusion that Palm is going to drop these features from all future models. It's as logical to say that the low-end model has a monochrome screen therefore all future Palm models will be monochrome. Surely you realize that isn't going to happen. The same is true for the other features that the Zire lacks. If you want a glimpse of Palm's future plans, pay more attention to the Tungsten T and W, which have 4 hardware buttons, d-pads, and use the universal connector.
"Missing" two buttons
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/30/2002 10:52:08 PM #
but non-standard none-the-less and what's next?

Yes, how *dare* Palm omit some features to reduce the price for an entry level PDA?


M515 $330 at Staples this coming week

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:43:32 PM #
Includes $15 instant rebate
It has been less than US$300 for a while
fkclo @ 9/28/2002 3:23:50 AM #
Back in Hong Kong, M515 prices has gone down quite a bit a few months ago. One can pick up an M515 for less than US$300 in the stores.

Retailers are putting other things as a bundle as well - Chinese OS software, screen protector, stylus, cases...sync-charge cable...



It will use high-speed GPRS networks

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 1:48:52 PM #
Will the GPRS network work in the United States?
RE: It will use high-speed GPRS networks
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 2:15:59 PM #
AT&T has a GSM/GPRS network, as does T-Mobile (who have the Danger Hiptop coming out next week, rebranded as the Sidekick). I think Cingular is building up a GSM/GPRS network as well (they're rumored to be considering a merger with/acquisition of T-Mobile).
RE: It will use high-speed GPRS networks
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2002 4:10:00 PM #
As a current Palm.net customer, I am curious to know how this will compare in terms of expense and coverage area. The Mobitex network has been quite reliable, though slow. I am a Palm VIIx user looking and looking at the new device. But, my questions will be expense and coverage in my rural area.

if OS is not named as "Palm OS" , m515 can't be $399.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 1:57:48 AM #
Becuase the OS is named as "Palm OS",
many people believed "Palm HandHeld" is the best match of "Palm OS". So, Palm m515 is still alive in the highly competitive PDA market although it is sold with an unbelievable high price.

Image that, Sony or HandSpring made a handheld with the same spec. of m515 and hope to sold with $399, Will you buy that?

Could it be said that tradition is worth something....

Wake up, Palm Inc..........

RE: if OS is not named as
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2002 8:06:50 PM #
Exactly what I said in one of the first few posts on this story. I have met too many people that just can't seem to understand that all PalmOS machines run the same software.

"If I get something other than a Palm, I won't be able to find software for it."

Maybe when Palm changes it's name this problem will become a thing of the past.

RE: if OS is not named as
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/30/2002 10:09:14 AM #
A stylish marriage of form and function, the Palm™ m515 handheld is perfect for today's tech-savvy professional. Whether you're managing contracts or your calendar, composing email or a Word-compatible doc, you'll get brilliant color, simplicity and sophistication in one ultra-slim design.

Palm Inc is sleeping.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/29/2002 6:31:36 PM #
While thinking they can get away with m515 at $350. (and that Dungsten at $499) Toshiba is releasing E330 at $299 !

http://cyclone.8k.com/bigscan.jpg

Toshiba E330 is PXA250 running at 300Mhz with 64Mb mem, while Sony NX are PXA210 running at 200Mhz.

Is anybody in Palm Inc awake? or are they sleeping on the wheel?

RE: Palm Inc is sleeping.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/29/2002 6:48:33 PM #
Not sleeping they are in a COMA, along with Handera and Handspring. I really wish Sony would just switch to making PPCs and that would be the end of the OS debate.

Only hope in hell that PalmOS has is Sony so all you Palm Zelots bow to your new lord and savior SONY Corp.

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