Comments on: Rumor: Sony Clie TG50, T Series Replacement?

>>the time you get an accessory(if you ever get one), your model is ancient

i don't get this - do mean the disapointment factor from not having the latest Sony? They've been using the same connector for quite awhile now (for nr,nx,nz, t and sj series)- so what are you talking about?

$499 for a Tungsten T? That's the retail price. No one pays retail. All the following have it under $350:

http://www.buydig.com/shop.php?prod_id=3COMTUNGSTENT
http://www.mpsuperstore.com/computer/indexMy.htm?discr24234.htm
http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage.php3?&id=1000531

MS pro is not vaporware. Sony announced them formally at CES and IIRC had samples. The sonystyle website lists availibility as march.

Look - sony does 320x320 w/out virtual grafitti and 320x480 with VG. This has a square screen - so no VG. The reason that they would not do 320 x 320 with VG is because ALL of sonys model are a multiple of 160x160 - standard apps are going to take the full 320 x 320 leaving no space for the VG. This is freakin obvious. Yes THEY COULD pull a handera and use some weird resolution here. They could pixel double on the horizontal but leave the vertical 1.5 times (for backward compatibility w/ 160x160). thats possible - but damn messy.
They already have a system and they'll stick to it. I'd bet my life on it. Besides - do you think they would - after 2 years w/ 320x320 hires for the 'main' area of the screen, suddenly lower the res for this(320 - 80 pixels VG = 240)? Nah - not a chance.

How do you figure that Graffiti 2 supports writing anywhere on the screen? Because it's based on Jot? The Palm website says that a Graffiti area will still be required with Graffiti 2. And there will still be a more featured version of Jot that you can purchase that will amoung other things allow you to write anywhere on the screen. I believe this is the same way they do it for PPC too.

Personally, I'd rather have a flip-top just so I don't scratch the screen when its in my pocket. It'll save me money from not having to buy a leather case for my PDAs.

But I do wish it came with virtual Graffiti though, but then again I don't want to end up paying $500.

Actually no it isn't. If you look at the picture there is hinge on the very top, no twist. It's a flip-top COVER, not a clamshell design like N?-series that Sony releases. So it's just flip-and-fold.

If you need more convincing, even this article states "The TG50 comes with an integrated flip cover, like the recently announced SJ33." If you look at the cover for the SJ33 you'll see it's just a piece of plastic to cover the screen.

honestly, is it that difficult to flip open a cover when you take you PDA out? Most people with PDAs even buy their own cases to protect their investment, and when you put a third-party case on it tends to become thicker and heavier.

The stats on the Garmin device state that it's nearly an inch shorter than the NX. That sounds considerable to me. This makes it about as tall as the T615 and only a bit thicker at the top. To integrate GPS, VG, hires+, 32MB, vibrating battery, and OS5... it's seems a pretty small trade-off for such a minimal size increase.

The problem with hires+/VG AND small form factor is that there's nowhere to put buttons if the thing is too small. I have a TT right now because size matters. But, the Garmin device seems only a bit bigger with so many advantages. I might take the plunge once I actually see it up close...

-jcm

Right, and like I said before this new PDA is NOT in the NR/NX design. It's just a plastic cover that you flip over, the NR/NX design had the LCD screen built into the cover, and the mechanics in the other, so you had to "flip-twist-fold", like you said before. This a plastic cover like the SJ-33 or the Treo, where you just flip it open, no twisting. You could probably just break off the plastic cover without any problems other than an unattractive PDA.

Thickness:

Garmin: 0.8"
NX70V: 0.6875"
T665C: 0.5"

So, the Garmin manages to be *even thicker* than an NX70V, despite the NX's clamshell design and the two extra walls that it necessitates. And it's a full 75% thicker than the T-series. People have been clamoring for a non-clamshell 320x480 PDA, but I'm not sure that this is what they had in mind.

Check this pic:

http://www.palminfocenter.com/ss.asp?f=CES03/garmin_3600_3.jpg

The Garmin looks to be an excellent PDA, but it's no T-series replacement.

At least, that's what I'm hoping.

FBN

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My 2 cents.

Scott

markpmc

I never was a huge supporter of the much ballyhooed "Palm Zen" back in the good ol' days but lately I am starting to think that there is something to be said for it...laptops are getting cheaper and cell phones are becoming more versaitle. The PDA will eventually end up getting squeezed out, and I think that adding keyboards left and right will only hasten their departure, especially for a non-wired PDA.

The only thing this arrangement won't get you, obviously, is the larger screen of the Sony clamshells.

FWIW, I got the Treo 90 because it's the lightest Palm device ever (4 oz and no case) and IIRC, the only 4 oz device on any OS with a color screen.

- Dan

Checkout this story on brighthand why Sony doesn't make Palm OS Smartphones:
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Sony_Ericsson_Partnership_Survives

But, look how far it has come already from the 256k (or whatever they were)originals to the range of choices we have now. From phones to video cameras, from books to music, full motion video to Web surfing, wireless to bluetooth. It is all there NOW. And the future lies right where you are suggesting.

Post like this on a potential Sony Palm Phone make my heart leap, and my mind tingle at the potential.

Now, in the old days of anonymous posting here, this would have gone off into wacky land at this point. I kinda miss that.

The NX/NR70 are for people who want virtual graffiti.

Probably 4/11: NZ90, SJ33, SJ22, TG50,... which still leaves 7 (!) additional models. Lots of space for even more differentiation -- should be interesting.

- D

but then again sony, like most big companies I guess just wants to squeeze as much as they can out of the market. I mean if a device had all those specs I mentioned, who would buy the SJ33? Unless the SJ33 was significantly cheaper there wold not be much reason to do so now would there?

xolstis

Wonder when the next technological breakthru after the LCD and LPD will come making batt life last a whole lor longer.

xolstis