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DataViz today announced new software Beyond Contacts(TM). Beyond Contacts is a Microsoft Outlook companion that syncronizes Outlook data for Calendar, Contacts, Tasks and Notes on your handheld.
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It's about time

peitron @ 4/22/2003 2:37:26 PM #
Looks great. This program should be bundled on all Tungsten.

I wonder if it supports multiple e-mail accounts the same way Outlook does and, if so, will it let me sync my hotmail account?

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PocketMirror

thinkpanda @ 4/22/2003 3:00:48 PM #
I have used PocketMirror for quite some years. It is so smooth that I almost forget its existence. How is Beyond Contacts compare to PocketMirror?


RE: PocketMirror
peitron @ 4/22/2003 3:05:03 PM #
I've just installed the trial. It's very smooth, but it eats up a lot of memory. Wish I could put it in the ROM.

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RE: PocketMirror
NikMan @ 4/22/2003 3:07:38 PM #
Yes ut takes lots of space but I must say that I will use it instead of Agendus.

Its great program and you have outlook sync and "agendus" clone here.


DocumetsToGo, InboxToGo and Beyond Contacts its a must have but hope some day for smaller price?

RE: PocketMirror
peitron @ 4/22/2003 3:20:00 PM #
Yep. I'm taking out Versamail too.

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RE: PocketMirror
RoelvdV @ 4/22/2003 3:46:01 PM #
If you use Pocketmirror, then take a look at what Chapura can do for you with Pocketmirror Professional and KeyContacts. And this summer they launch KeySuite: http://www.chapura.com/keysuite.php

Is this a good thing??

bigfoot @ 4/22/2003 3:17:30 PM #
Will Beyond Contacts be as good at passing almost every know virus as Outlook is?

Cheers,

RE: Is this a good thing??
RoelvdV @ 4/22/2003 3:48:01 PM #
A Virus needs the right environment to run. So if you haven't loaded Windows PE on your Palm then you should have no problems :-)

checked it out - no thanks

nrosser @ 4/22/2003 3:25:05 PM #
I generally like DataViz' products - they always do a good job, but after a close inspection of Beyond Contacts, I have to pass. Here's why:

It seems to NOT use the core Palm data as its data source (yes, I know - it uses Outlook, but just about every other program like Agendus, which I use, and dateBook X use the palm databases). From what I can tell, Beyond Contacts operates outside the Palm hotsync backup and restore functions, which is one of the best aspects of the entire Palm OS experience. The reason I think it doesn't use the core Palm databases as its data source is that when installing the product, you have to pull the data from Outlook to populate the app (rather than using the existing Palm data). I just did a trial install on my Treo300, and the handheld app contained no data in it until after the second HotSync pulls data out of Outlook into the app.
I might be wrong, but I took that to mean that unlike Agendus and the others, this app does not use the core Palm databases as its data source. This may not be a big deal, but I really want to keep things simple on my handheld. I like the security (comfort?) of knowing that all my data gets backed up with each HotSync (no flames about backup buddy, pls - I replaced my treo300 recently, and ALL data other than hacks were up with no issues), and that there's only one source for my data. And I use Outlook to sync with, with FusionOne as my go-between.

Don't get me wrong - it looks cool, and was tempting enough to get me to run a quick trial, but as soon as I could tell that Beyond Contacts operates outside the core Palm databases, I had to bail. If my info is wrong, and someone else knows something I don't, please correct me. NR.

I've confused myself
nrosser @ 4/22/2003 3:53:39 PM #
after re-reading that post, I need to clarify:

My point is that Agendus (which I use) and the other programs like that use the core palm databases as their source. I don't that Beyond Contacts does. It seems as though BC operates outside the Palm databases, which might be good or bad, depending on ones' tastes.

RE: checked it out - no thanks
peitron @ 4/22/2003 3:58:29 PM #
I think you're right, in so much that the program creates a parallel database. I've kept my PocketMirror conduits and set them up to backup, then moved the standard Palm applications to the System folder just to get them out of the way. Sync is just a bit longer (no more than 30 seconds I'd say), and the standard back-up doesn't take up more than 35K of memory, so this way I have two back-ups of my information.

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RE: checked it out - no thanks
pgovotsos @ 4/22/2003 4:05:49 PM #
No it doesn't use the built in databases. Read the docs, they spell that out very clearly.

The other Outlook "clone" KeyContacts from the people that make your Pocket Mirror don't use the built in databases either.

If you think about this and use your noggin a little, you would understand how it would be impossible for either one to use them. The built ins have a very limited field set. If you are going to accomodate all or most of Outlook's fields, you will HAVE to use another database.

It's not a negative thing that these programs use their own databases, it's a natural necessity of what they are doing.

Panagiotis


As an aside, I don't understand this kind of complaint. For years people have complained about the limits of the built in programs. Sure there are other programs like DateBK or Agendus, but they are just a new face on the same old problem. Now we have two companies that are doing something positive and productive about it and what happens? People complain because companies are doing just what they have wanted!! Maybe some people should keep their pacifiers in their mouths and stay quiet.

Yes that's nasty, I'm just tired of the whining.

RE: checked it out - no thanks
sandbuck @ 4/22/2003 4:32:26 PM #
He was not "whining", he was making a valid point. Apps like Agendus and DateBk offer improved functionality by storing extra data in their own databases, and keying those databases to the built-ins. It's only natural to wonder why this product is not doing the same. No need for the extra static.

Whining? don't think so
nrosser @ 4/22/2003 4:34:21 PM #
Was I whining? Nope. Just making a few points.

I'm tired of people whining about whiners. Now I AM whining - make it stop!! aaaaaaiiieeee

RE: checked it out - no thanks
pgovotsos @ 4/22/2003 5:21:51 PM #
It sounds like the programs like Agendus and DateBk are just as "bad" as Beyond Contacts and KeyContacts. They use their own database to hold information not accessible anywhere else.

If this works as well as I'm hoping, I'll be more than happy to remove the builtin programs w/ all their data to free up memory for this. I won't miss them one little bit.

Panagiotis

bad - ?
nrosser @ 4/22/2003 5:55:08 PM #
Well, my point with comparing Agendus and Beyond Contacts was to say that they are fundamentally different products - Agendus and DateBk add functionality on TOP of the built-in databases, and BC creates an entirely new set of databases. There are pros and cons of both, but my main question is - would using Beyond Contacts give me the same backup protection I get with the built-ins? I guess I have 7 or so years of comfort and familiarity with the palm backup functionality, and it's saved me many many times. I just wonder how BC compares in that regard? (and, yes, I checked the documentation, and I didn't notice that in there). Any folks with a clue there, let us know.

Dang it - I've lost my pacifier. Have to go get a new one now.

RE: checked it out - no thanks
redvette_ragtop @ 4/22/2003 6:00:04 PM #
Panagiotis,

>>It sounds like the programs like Agendus and DateBk are just as "bad" as Beyond Contacts and KeyContacts. They use their own database to hold information not accessible anywhere else.

Not quite so--these db's are only for program-specific prefernces, not for the actual data.

>>If this works as well as I'm hoping, I'll be more than happy to remove the builtin programs w/ all their data to free up memory for this. I won't miss them one little bit.

Sorry--you can't delete these apps from memory. For one thing, they are in ROM and have absolutely no affect on how much memory you can free up.

I don't want to sound unkind, and I'm sorry for the limitations of the written word, but it perhaps would be better if you were a little more informed on a topic before being so quick to be critical of others. We can all enjoy civilized and informed comments, observations, leads, and opinions on this and other forums.

For the record, Panagiotis, I did not find nrosser's remarks to be whining at all. Nrosser gave a valuable observation for those who might be novice users. And for those like me, who are power users, it was an excellent heads-up.

Thank you, nrosser, for bringing this up. It is a serious factor in consideration of purchasing this product.

--Brad

RE: checked it out - no thanks
radleyp @ 4/22/2003 6:01:58 PM #
I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this Outlook pocket look-alike. If that's what you want, then why not switch to the PocketPC, which has it built in? I use Outlook both at home and the office, and am content syncing with my Sony. I would not switch to this application any more than I would to Key Contacts, since other applications of mine, such as Agendus, Contacts Pro, BugMe and Shadow all use the built-in databases. I use my PDA differently from my PC, so it makes sense to me that they are not identical in operation or software. PDR

RE: checked it out - no thanks
nrosser @ 4/22/2003 6:54:43 PM #
I feel the love

RE: checked it out - no thanks
justauser @ 4/22/2003 7:15:58 PM #
I have to agree – I am turned off by the that the fact that the this program does not make use of the core databases. There are several datebook / address book replacements out there. The ones that use the core database (which is most of them) have seamless interchange of data - which means if I get sick of one of them, you delete the app and install the new one. To do this with the Dataviz product is not as straight forward. But my big complaint is - what about all those apps that read off the core databases and exchange data with it - ie database apps such as thinkdb, project task apps such as 'projects', and any number of apps that use the 'lookup' function to read a phone number or an email address from the address book...

oh I get it... Dataviz wants you to by ALL their products that talk with each other ONLY... Now why does that sound familiar? Totally goes against the Palm philosophy in my opinion.


RE: checked it out - no thanks
pgovotsos @ 4/22/2003 11:08:47 PM #
Redvette ragtop,

You said:
>>It sounds like the programs like Agendus and DateBk are just as "bad" as Beyond Contacts and KeyContacts. They use their own database to hold information not accessible anywhere else.

Not quite so--these db's are only for program-specific prefernces, not for the actual data.

It goes a little further than preferences. Additional data is in these databases. Things like extra fields, links between records, etc. This is useful DATA not accessible anywhere else.

You said:
Sorry--you can't delete these apps from memory. For one thing, they are in ROM and have absolutely no affect on how much memory you can free up.

Yes they are in ROM. Yes you can remove them. For several years, Jack Sprat has allowed you to remove programs in ROM and JackFlash to use that memory.

You also said:
... perhaps would be better if you were a little more informed on a topic before being so quick to be critical of others.

Perhaps YOU should be informed before being critical. Jack Sprat / Flash is VERY old news. Your "attempt" at diplomacy is a little silly in light if your mistakes.

Panagiotis

RE: checked it out - no thanks
redvette_ragtop @ 4/23/2003 2:52:38 AM #
>>It goes a little further than preferences. Additional data is in these databases. Things like extra fields, links between records, etc. This is useful DATA not accessible anywhere else.

Yes, but you are still talking about proprietary info. The raw data is still the Palm core db.

>Yes they are in ROM. Yes you can remove them. For several years, Jack Sprat has allowed you to remove programs in ROM and JackFlash to use that memory.

Ah, yes. My mistake. However, not everyone owns Jack Sprat and for those of us who don't, your point of deleting the apps bear no relevance.

>Perhaps YOU should be informed before being critical. Jack Sprat / Flash is VERY old news. Your "attempt" at diplomacy is a little silly in light if your mistakes.

Well, I disagree with you on this. As I've pointed out, Jack Sprat has no relevance for those of us who do not own nor use it. But now this is turning into arguing and THAT is what is silly. I'm glad there is a product that fits your needs. Who knows?--it may fit mine, too, one day.

Best wishes,

Brad

Backup-
madmaxmedia @ 4/23/2003 1:44:07 PM #
I would imagine Dataviz has thought out the backup thing. I'm sure if you go to their site you can get info on how databases are backed up.

This whole debate is sort of pointless. If you really need or want complete Outlook functionality, this is the program for you. If you don't, then you're already happy with regular Palm apps or one of the add-ons that utilize the Palm databases.

This is also a good way to get beyond the 4K limit in Palm notes (obviously, only if you run up against it. No need for 'why do you need that?' type posts.)


RE: checked it out - no thanks
emceephd @ 4/23/2003 4:24:28 PM #
I tried Beyond Contacts this morning and found it good in some aspects and poor in others.

My initial reaction was, wow, they did it. And, why hasn't Microsoft decided to offer it's wares on different operating systems like they did with Apple. Hubris.

Now, on to the details. I like KeyContacts better than the Beyond Contacts address book. I like the one button navigation, it's ease of search, and sorting options.

I like Datebk5 better than the Beyond Contacts address book. Datebk5 has a great developer, who is very responsive to suggestions, the software itself allows you to view the calendar in a spiffy small type mode (helpful in week mode), has icons, nice integration with the split screen, etc.

Beyond Contacts is really great when you consider it does well at integrating the three other apps: Tasks, Notes, and Inbox. I don't have great solutions for any of these right now, although I am using the DataVizMail. I wonder if I can just use the Beyond Contacts stuff for Tasks and Notes.

Beyond Contacts also seems to do a good job at giving you familiar options out of Outlook menus like the ability to send an email from within a contact. It's all very Microsoft, but better than their Pocket PC offerings.

So, I am going to stick tight with DateBk5 and KeyContacts for now. The Chapura folks are behind on their suite version (summer) but it might be a better solution for me personally.

Overall, I can see how many folks will buy Beyond Contacts for fairly seamless integration of Outlook. For folks like me who have other apps already, it may not be the best solution.

Just my two cents.

RE: checked it out - no thanks
justauser @ 4/23/2003 8:10:44 PM #
After hearing all the positive reviews I thought I’d try it myself. I agree that it has a lot more fields than standard datebook/todo/contacts. But I would have to say this program is a step backwards for Palm apps;

Memory: The program is very memory hungry. I lost a couple of Meg (but I keep a long history of entries – hey I’ve been using Palms for over 5 years!)

Speed: Unbelievably slow. I have a T/T but it runs slower than my old Palm III. Is it just me or does it take everyone a few seconds for the month view to refresh. And don’t get me started on the 5 second delay on the Today screen. Perhaps all the guys raving about it only have a few month’s worth of records.

I can see absolutely no benefit in using this over any of the fine datebook offerings out there coupled with Pocket Mirror. Sure you miss out on a couple of (cough* cough* useless) fields such as ‘birthdays’ and ‘spouse’ and ‘% complete’ – give me a break. There are a dozen ways of recording this info without loading this bulky app. But that’s what the custom fields are for. While I’m on the topic – what’s the point of recording a birthday date in contacts if it doesn’t show up on the calendar? Perhaps I’m missing something here?

I am also faced with the proposition of having to keep double entries. A very simple example – SMS uses a lookup function which references the Palm Addressbook but NOT BC. Wordsmith provides rich text formatting for Palm memos – but now I have BC Notes as well. I use Versamail cause it’s free – once again a lookup will reference the PalmDB not BC – I tried InboxToGo and didn’t like it.

I sit the T/T on my desk and switch between apps constantly using Button Launch (freeware). I expect a T/T to provide an instant response. For most apps this is true. Sorry but Beyond Contacts does not deliver. I’ve seen this sort of refresh on a PPC and laughed at it.


RE: checked it out - no thanks
jbarr @ 4/24/2003 5:39:09 PM #
Conerning the databases, it doesn't use the native PIM databases, it uses its own, but the native databases are still "active".

When you sync, the native PIM databses first get updated and then the BC databases get updated.

Understandibly, they HAVE to have some place to put the extra Outlook data, but the main problem I have is that they are separate databases, so if you use any other apps that use the native PIM databases, the changes won't reflect "live". You must wait until the next HotSync to get everyting synced back up.

If you switch entirly to BC, then it's really a non-issue, but if you don't, then I foresee many problems.

It's a GREAT program, but it's pretty much Microsift in mentality: All or nothing. It takes over all the buttons (which you can, admittedly, change later) and because its databases are separate, you really need to use NC exclusivly.

High Rez

noshow @ 4/22/2003 4:28:40 PM #
Anyone who has demo'd Beyond Contacts comment on it's integration of high rez fonts and views? Also, does it take advantage of colors in it's month view like outlook xp does or is it just those cheesy dots like the palm month view?

It will be hard to beat agendus in it's views and icons but the ability to integrate all the info on the contacts into the palm is intriguing.

RE: High Rez
peitron @ 4/22/2003 5:09:38 PM #
Fonts? Just the standard Palm fonts. Doesn't look like it can intigrate with the additional DocToGo fonts, which would have been cool.

On views, I think it does a much better job than the standard Palm applications in its use of color and icons, while it's not over the top nor does it change the layout of the traditional programs too much. My impression is that in general, views and icons are more "business" orientated than agendus (no dumb happy faces).

I like it so far. It's at least worth giving it the free 30 day trial (no dumb "This is a trial version" screen at start-up either).

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This is soooo long overdue!

SteveNYC @ 4/22/2003 7:01:26 PM #
I can't wait to try this product out. I was really pleased to see that Chapura was working along these same lines with their KeySuite when I looked it up yesterday. But then to see that DataViz has their product up and running NOW.... well, that takes the cake.

I have always wondered why there wasn't a product that did this level of syncronization with Outlook. It really is long overdue.

I'll try it out very soon and I'm sure I'll find quirks and issues with it and I'll want it to do things it can't. But it does things I can't do right now, and that makes it a good product right from the start.

RE: This is soooo long overdue!
lwehrung @ 4/24/2003 10:13:32 AM #
This definitely fills a hole for folks that use or have to use Microsoft Outlook for their desktop PIM. Since this is the first release, I expect it only to get better. This is not for everyone, but at $29.95, it is pretty tempting.

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Buggy
thtoo @ 5/15/2003 3:17:01 PM #
I've downloade a trial copy and used it for a couple of weeks. All the features do match Outlook much closer. Several short-comings:

1. From the Palm Address Book when I look up a contact, I can launch SMS application directly. BC does not have that option. If it did, it's not at the same place as the Palm Address Book.

2. Make lots of free memory before synching DataVis Mail. It worked fine. Easy to install. Unlike VersaMail, I was able to make this one to sync very easily. However, I will download all your email attachemets into Document To Go so you can view the attachments while reading your emails. This takes up lots of memory. First time I synched, it chewed up all of my 2MB of memory and caused problems.

3. I ended the evaluation when the apps started to crash. First To Do List die, then Memos, Contacts and Mail. Basically, after they died, I see no contents in that module. So I deleted it and brought back they original PIM. This was the second time I had to delete it.

4. Contact Search - in PPC, the search is smarter. You can enter First name or Last name, it'll find a match as you enter the characters. BC search is the same as the Palm Address Book. If it is sorted by Last name then you search by Last Name.

I liked some of the features and the better integration with Outlook. But it is not stable. I cannot trust it. Pass.


RE: Beyond Contacts Buggy
lancsgp @ 6/4/2003 2:36:44 PM #
I agree this is a buggy but very nice looking offering.

Downloads and installs no problem. The latest version 3.001 looks even better then 3.000. However both crash with a fatal error message when you pick the calendar option. So far not a response from the support team , await a fix soon. Otherwise will have to ditch this promising.

Incidentally, Inbox email is imported but not the subfolders. Shame

Two Environments on your Palm?

MacTheMan @ 4/22/2003 7:03:05 PM #
I have two use three apps to organize my info:
- Lotus Notes for E-Mail
- Palm Desktop for To-Do's, Addresses, Appointments, Memos
- Outlook for the E-Mail, To-Do's, Addresses, Appointments, Memos at the client site.

I have everything pretty much under control with a combination of the new 2.5 version of VersaMail (Integrates my Lotus Notes, Corporate Outlook, and my wireless POP3 account) and the standard Palm Apps.

What falls short are the Outlook To-Do's, Addresses, Appointments, Memos.

My question: Does Beyond Contact install in addition to the Palm Desktop apps?
Which means, that everything sync's the way I am used to, PLUS I will have a separate Application for Outlook?

If yes, that would one of the best news ever!

Please let me know.


RE: Two Environments on your Palm?
peitron @ 4/22/2003 7:51:21 PM #
Yes, I'm actually doing that. I'm using the program, and in parallel I have my PocketMirror Pro conduits synchronizing my standard Palm apps.

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RE: Two Environments on your Palm?
MacTheMan @ 4/22/2003 9:36:34 PM #
I also installed it - and after testing already purchased it. It's really amazing:

- Palm Desktop for my private Stuff
- VersaMail 2.5 for
- Lotus Notes Corporate Email via Sync
- Outlook Corporate Email via Sync
- POP3 Wireless Email
- Beyond Contacts for Outlook Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, and Notes

It's really amazing. Exactly what I was looking for a long, long time!


No Mac Support?

macfixer @ 4/22/2003 11:13:48 PM #
This sucks, I want Entourage X support!

:-P

K

RE: No Mac Support?
pgovotsos @ 4/22/2003 11:27:16 PM #
It's also strange since thay have had Mac support in so many of their products. I think Desktop to Go, Beyond Contacts predecessor, had Mac support.

Did they develop this in house or purchase it like Smartlist to Go? If purchased, that might explain the lack of support.

You might want to go here to request Mac support. This is where they send you from the FAQ to suggest new features.

http://www.dataviz.com/eforms/feedback/generalfeedback.html

Panagiotis

Unable to sync w/ two computers?

rvdw @ 4/24/2003 12:00:47 PM #
Beyond Contacts is supposed to replace Desktop To Go which has now been phased out. However, while DTG was able to sync with two PC's, BC is not:

http://support.dataviz.com/support.srch?docid=12846&pid=112&catid=1012&subcatid=1002

IMO, this makes it awkward to position BC as an alternative for DTG as I'm sure many customers sync with two computers (typically at work and at home).


RE: Unable to sync w/ two computers?
lancsgp @ 6/4/2003 2:40:43 PM #
Yes , discovered this to be another major failing of beyond contacts. Can't sync 2 PCs. Looking worse by the day. Shame because it does look a lot better.

Tried it, but didn't like it

CleverClaire @ 4/24/2003 2:43:26 PM #
Well I was excited to see this come out. My primary enthusiasm was in the hope that I could:

1) respond and send meeting addresses
2) sync mail faster (too slow with attachments or many mail messages - ie 500+)

However, this app is too flawed for me to use. I am an Agendus fan (DateBK4 is nice too - just prefer Agendus) and I lose way too much.

1) No small fonts. I can't even read the contacts list. If you sort it by company, you have to open every contact within a company to see if it is the one you want. Totally unusable.
2) Attaching contacts to a meeting is clumsy compared to Agendus
3) Too many tabs and scrolling down data input screens for contacts, notes and meetings. Yeah - just like Outlook or the PocketPC. Too many clicks to do what you want.
3) Still uses Dataviz mail which is slow to sync and can't put attachments on the SD card (a ridiculous flaw considering Docs To Go can do it).

Great idea. Not well executed.

Back to Agendus I go....

Claire

Almost, but not quite

jbarr @ 4/24/2003 5:43:40 PM #
I tried it, but I don't like it for the following reasons:

1. HotSync times have increased at least 4-5 fold.

2. No HiRes+ support. DateBk5 has it, Agendus has it, heck, even Docs2Go has it. This is SEVERELY limiting on my Clie NX70V.

3. No way to directly launch the individual modules. Say I want to launch the Calendar app. I have to launch BC and then choose the calendar app. Yes, I could use the hard buttons, but I keep my NX70V in "tablet" mode, so the hard buttons aren't accessible. I suppose I could use Okey, but that's another issue. McPhling doesn't "see" them nor does ZLauncher. This is a bummer.

4. "Back" buttons not supported well. If I launch BC and then select a module, I would expect pressing the Clie's "Back" button would take me back to BC, but instead, it drops me to the launcher. Yes, you can navigate using the drop-down "tree" navigator, but it requires a stylus. Not efficient.

5. Proprietary databases. I understand why they have to do this, but it more than doubles the size of the data stored on my Clie, and it's mostly redundant data. Not a huge deal, but memory is always an issue. What is an issue for ME is that I use MemoSafe exclusivly for my Memo editing, taking advantage of its nice encryption. Because the databses are separate, syncing issues becomes a huge problem. Now, if BC added encryption to the Notes module, that would be excellent.

Don't get me wrong. For an "all-in-one", "Outlook for the Handheld" app, BC really is a killer app. It's surprisingly complete, and it does work well, but it seems to have adopted the "Microsoft Mentality" of "Take over all the functions and use only our software." And, until I get HiRes+ support, I'll stick with DateBK5.

RE: Almost, but not quite
soulbarn @ 4/25/2003 11:37:14 AM #
Can anyone tell me if BC has what I consider the holy grail for the notes function: the ability to sort them by creation date (the outlook field)? What sort options are there for Notes?

thanks very much,

Dan

- Dan

RE: Almost, but not quite
orb @ 4/25/2003 2:00:48 PM #
no you can't sort by date created, sort is either manual or by subject.



Still missing the feature I was looking for...

kskourtis @ 4/28/2003 1:35:18 PM #
The feature I was really looking for is the ability to click on a Contact's Activities tab and have it lookup all the items related to this contact (ie emails were the contact is the sender/receiver, emails explicitely linked to the contact and journal entries). I have found this an invaluable feature in outlook, since it allows me to quickly lookup all my interactions with this contact to date.

Unfortunately, it appears it has not been implemented in Beyond Contacts. Does anyone know whether it's possible to achieve something similar with this app, or any other Palm app for this matter?

RE: Still missing the feature I was looking for...
orb @ 4/28/2003 6:11:38 PM #
Yeah i agree, this is a feature i use all the time on outlook, can't see anything like it on beyond contacts. You can't even assign contacts to meetings, notes or to-do on the handheld but only on the PC - not good.
I don't think i'll be buying this.
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