Comments on: Howto: Replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti

Thanks.

In the Spirit of Umoja,
Ronin

elo

Of course, the OP was about the legality of this article; I was merely responding with information that might be helpful to some. If you aren't interested, why respond?

elo

Further, are you certain there is any inpropriety in my copying these files from an OS5 device I own, to an OS5.2 device I own?

If you want to follow the original thread, go here:
http://www.spug.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45510

The Graffiti1.zip link is on page 2 of the thread.

Can we use Graffiti 2 on Tungsten T?

Can you send TT2 Graffiti2 PRCs?

Regards..

www.TPUG.org
Thai Palm Users' Group

For G2 you need the following files:

Graffiti 2 Library, size 95K, creator grft
Graffiti 2 Library_enUS, size 131K, creator grft

For write anywhere you need:

GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny

This worked for me, your mileage may vary.

GoLCDLib
Graffiti 2 Prefs
Graffiti 2 Prefs_enUS

You can also copy the new Prefs application. Hurrah! :-)

Please drop me a note (preferable by eMail.)

Thanks
icarus

presently using T|T - waiting for 320x480 VG Design with Bluetooth (No clam-shell, no keyboard, no slider, etc.)

If you copy these files and the Graffiti 1 libs, can you get G1 with write anywhere? Has anyone tired this?

- Tere

>For write anywhere you need:
>
>GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
>GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
>GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny
>
>This worked for me, your mileage may vary.

- Tere

Peace,
-Bartman007

Unless PIC supports trading stolen programs, these posts (and arguably this article) should be removed. If you feel it is ok to trade these, files you might as well start hosting PW-Patcher and the Palmpass updates. But no doubt you can find a way to rationalize stealing Palm system files...

What is the difference between stealing an unlicensed Graffiti application (which Palm no longer will be using do to legal concerns) and stealing an unlicensed application from a company other than Palm? Please enlighten us all, Grasshopper. No doubt one of your law school professors can help you out on this one if you don't know where to start.

Although I have the G1 files
on my PC, I don't know how I can get them onto my Tungsten; I don't have anyone to beam them to me.

When I tried to "install" them, that failed because of some read-only error during hotsync. I suppose I don't want to install them, only to copy them over without installing.

How should I get them into Palm memory? I have FileZ.

--Steve

Cheers.

Smoother

A Palm in one hand is worth 2 PocketPCs
: )
-Steve B.

I was also unable to hotsync the 2 G1 files to my TT2. I ended up putting them on the card and then moving them to RAM. Once I did that, I was able to get G1. WOO HOO!!

They should've at least included a simple training tool to help people get acclimated to it, IMHO.

Please can someone confirm which of the 4 found files are needed? These 4 are from my old old m500 palm handheld. (I am now using a Zire 71 - my husband uses the m500)

The files listed from ROM from the FileZ ver 5.22

Filename: Graffiti
Type: appl creator: gdem size: 14381 b, 26 rec Unique ID: 262831, card 0 verison ID: 1
Attributes: Resource DB checked DATES: Created: 6/11/03 Modified: 6/11/03 Backedup: 6/15/03

Filename: Graffiti ShortCuts
Type: macr, Creator: graf, Size 668b, 1 recs, Unique ID: 8381625, Card 0, Version ID: 0
Attributes: Resource DB, Backup, OK Install New are checked DATES: Created: 6/11/03 Modified: 9/26/03 Backedup: 9/11/03

Filename: GraffitiExtension (locked)
Type: extn, creator: graf, Size 32902 b, 3 recs, Unique ID: 269589354, Card 0, Version ID: 1
Attributes: Resource DB, Read Only, Copy Protect are checked DATES: Created: 2/23/01 Modified: 2/23/01 Backedup: never

Filename: GraffitiExtension_enUS
Type: ovly, creator: graf, Size 14368b,b 13 recs, Unique ID: 269622264, Card 0, Version ID: 1
Attributes: Resource DB, Read Only are checked DATES: Created: 2/23/01 Modified: 2/23/01 Backedup: never

THANK YOU in advance for any and all help in pointing out which are needed. (If I can I'd like to do this right the first time)

The 2 files listed on the help page don't really seem apparent here (One file seems obvious but the other isn't):
-Graffiti Library.prc, size: 30k, creator: grft
-Graffiti Library_enUS.prc, size 22k, creator: grft

Karen Ramel
karenramel@yahoo.com
Vancouver, BC Canada

Thank you to everyone INCLUDING the very kind 3 persons I contacted directly about this. With all of your help I learned:

Unfortunatly, none of the files on the m500 can help you. The m500 runs OS4.x, and the graffiti system on it is incompatable with the OS5.x of the Zire 71. You will need to install the files from graffiti1.zip to a SD card and then copy them to your Zire. If you don't have an SD card, you can try installing the files from graffiti1.zip to the m500 (which will probably generate an error message of some sort), and then using filez to beam them to the Zire. However, I have not tried this, and it may force you to do a hard reset on the m500, so do a complete Hotsync first, and try it at your own risk!

Another kind soul shared:
You need to install graffiti1.zip (attached) to the SECURE DIGITAL CARD, then use another program (like Filez, or TealMover) to move the two files from the card to RAM, then do a soft reset.

*****If you do not install the files to the SD card (but instead install to RAM from hotsync), it will put the Zire71 into an infinite reset loop. If you would rather use what's on your husband's m500 files, just look for the files that match the two I'm sending you. A few people have had problems, but only when they didn't follow the directions I sent them. : )

Finally the third kind soul also included the crossingover10.zip file with the additional note that it (crosingover10.zip) will enable you to write capital letters where you used to be able to, but where g1 somehow doesn't allow you to.

Thanks to everyone!

I will try your suggestions and also crossingover. Perhaps crossingover is a smaller application than the application JOT that have?

FROM the PALMone.com website RESETTING THE PALM:
To perform a Soft reset, do the following:
Use the tip of an unfolded paper clip (or similar object without a sharp tip), to gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.

To perform a Warm reset, do the following:
Press and hold the Page Up button on your handheld. Use the tip of an unfolded paper clip (or a similar object without a sharp tip), gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld. When the Palm logo appears on the screen, release the Page Up button.

To perform a Hard reset, do the following:
Hold down the power button on the front panel of the handheld. While holding down the power button, use the tip of an unfolded paper clip (or similar object without a sharp tip), to gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.
Release the reset button. When the Palm logo appears on the screen, release the power button. When the message appears on the screen warning that you are about to erase all the data stored on your handheld, do one of the following: Press the page up button on the front panel of the handheld to complete the Hard reset and display the Digitizer screen. Pressing any other button performs a Soft reset.

T has the standard Graffiti, the one you have on your M515. T2 has Graffiti 2.

http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm

1) In Filez, go to the Details form for each database. Change both the name and creator code of each one.

2) Soft reset your device.

3) In Filez, delete the two databases.

This works because Palm OS allows you to change the info for these while they are open, but not delete them. On a soft reset, it won't find the DBs, so it will use the ones in ROM, and then they won't be open anymore.

--
Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com

This is awesome! Thanks!

xrays@sympatico.ca

for those that care, i tested it on my tungsten c and here's what i did:

* hotsync'ed
* backed up to sd card (i use backupman)
* disabled tealscript
* copied the graffiti 1 files to the root of my sd card
* used launcher x's card tool to copy the files from sd to palm ram
* did a soft reset

after i did a reset, it prompted me for my password (as if the device had been locked) and after entered my password, it gave me some sort of fatal error. not sure what was happening here, but i did another soft reset and everything was fine. graffiti 1 worked like a charm even with "write anywhere on-screen".

then to remove graffiti 1 without a hard reset, i did:

* in filez, went to each of the files and appended 'xxx' to the name and changed the creator id to 'xxxx'
* did a soft reset
* using filez again, deleted the grafiti 1 files

in the end, everything was back to normal without a hitch.

http://www.escande.org/palm/

http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodID=45513

cheers,
Harry

-budrowilson

Does anyone have G1 installed on a machine that came with G2 and have the caps in the middle thing working using either Crossover or GrafittiAnywhere?

If so, is it on a T|C? Can you offer help? If I could get caps in the middle to work, with G1 on my T|C, I would be one happy camper...

matty

-budrowilson

Any ideas out there? You guys are incredibly astute, so I imagine someone has figured this one out as well.

http://www.pilotwarez.com/

Please reply to me directly as well as on the board- golden322@yahoo.com

I have Tealscript and I'm satisfied with it. But if you know of a drawback, please let me know. Thanks.

Toadstool

please send
bejeweled.prc

to
howard@astraware.com

Cheers
Howard

"Palminfocenter should delete this thread if they want to keep Palm's advertising dollars from walking away."

PalmOne advertising on this site shouldn't have much impact on the content. Site policy is nothing illegal, as in warez, and that site has nothing more than what was suggested to be used in the G2->G1 fix made by PIC itself. Also, before all comments, there's a little message that says:

"The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. PIC is not responsible for them in any way."

If PalmOne would threaten to pull their ads everytime something questionable was brought up in forums, they WOULDN'T have any ads up. It doesn't work like that. Now if someone violates an NDA.. now that's a different story.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

Can someone direct me to the OS 4 Graffiti 1 files or email them to me?

Thanks!

Abe

I tried installing the OS5 G1 Files and it didn't work. I tried installing the GraffitiExtension Files (GraffitiExtension.prc & GraffitiExtension_enUS.prc)from my G1 Model to the G2 Model, but it didn't work. Then, using FileZ I renamed these files to the exact same name as the rom files (Graffiti 2 Extension & Graffiti 2 Extension_enUS) and changed the creator to grf2, but this stopped Graffiti from working period.

So, I'm guessing that you can't get G1 onto a G2 Palm running OS 4.1.2. If anyone knows how to please let us know. Thanks.

Trandor @ 8/21/2003 11:41:20 PM

I have successfully put G2 on my TT as well as write anywhere.

For G2 you need the following files:

Graffiti 2 Library, size 95K, creator grft
Graffiti 2 Library_enUS, size 131K, creator grft

For write anywhere you need:

GoLCD, size 7K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny, size 8K, creator GAny
GoLCD-GAny_enUS, size 2K, creator GAny

This worked for me, your mileage may vary.

Palm m130 -> Tungsten|T

wunderfamily-palmtungsten@yahoo.com

mswunder

It emulates graffiti version 1 when you tick the 'enable' box with no changes in default settings.

It also offers infinite modification to all character strokes should you want, but I use it just to write 'k', 't' and 'i' the way I have been for ths last 6 years!

stephen

I have a Tungsten E. I dunno if this is normal for Tungsten E users, or if I'm just cursed (call it a fifty-fifty shot). But getting those two little files on my T|E took a heck of a lot of effort, because I don't have a SD card or a T|T, and the Palm Install Tool refused to install the files to an "expansion card" created using PalmRamDisk.

I *did* ultimately succeed though, and (more to the point) succeeded in a manner that is platform-agnostic (at least as much as ZBoxZ is), so this may be of interest to Mac and Linux users. I haven't actually tested this, tho; I don't have access to a Mac, and even tho I prefer Linux I was using Windows at the time I got this working and I don't want to try going through this again ;).

So, here's how I ultimately managed:
1) First, you need the files. I picked them up from the zahsstuff link (mentioned elsewhere in this thread).
2) Install FileZ onto your Palm. See: http://nosleepsoftware.sf.net/download.html
3) Install PalmRamDisk onto your Palm. See: http://www.handwatch.com/
4) Install the ZBoxZ Suite. See: http://palmboxer.sf.net/
5) "Box" up the two PRC files using whatever means is appropriate for the OS. (Under Windows, I installed the conduit and then stuffed them into C:\Program Files\Palm\\ToBox\)
6) Get said boxed files onto the Palm (the method I used did this automatically)
7) Make sure PalmRamDisk is working, 'cause we're about to use it! (easy way is to go to the Applications listing and check the menu to see if there's a card that you don't have inserted showing ;D )
8) Open ZBoxZ. Select the files and use the Install command to install them onto the 'card'.
9) Open FileZ. Copy the "installed" files off the 'card' to the Palm's main memory.
10) Soft reset.
11) Rejoyce.

And if you think that instruction list is long, you should have seen my wild attempts at getting this going before! ;)

I too went to my IBM Workpad c3 (aka Palm Vx) and discovered that there were no files there. Since the batteries had long since died, I had to do a full sync and thanks to the developers of WebPro, AcroRead, and the BT software the sync copied all of those files to my Vx as well, even though the two are different machine names... Oh well...

Anyhow- I got the files off of the illustrious WWW. I now didn't know how to get them to my Tungsten T3. I don't have an SD reader for PC, and I didn't want to install a bunch of crazy software and copy files all over the place. So, I tried beaming to my T3, but for some reason it doesn't bring up the IR stuff in Windows like my Vx does. Ahh well. Then, oh yes- I did OBEX File Push to throw the files across Bluetooth to my T3. I just started the transfer, a few seconds later it completed, and then I rebooted. Way easy! I suggest to whoever is maintaining the G1 files that the instructions add this option, because it is the easiest way by far (if you don't have the G1 files already on another Palm machine).