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Tapwave ZodiacReader reports have begun to come in that early Tapwave Zodiac pre-orders have begun shipping. The Zodiac is the first Palm OS handheld designed primarily for gaming and mobile entertainment.
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Wonder how many

Palm4u @ 10/31/2003 1:51:52 PM #
I wonder how many pre-orders Tapwave has received? Is there anywhere on the web we can peek at?

Especially now that Sony Japan has officially announced new CLIEs with Palm OS6 will come out in 2004 Spring.

One can imagine new OS6 devices also coming out around that time too. So would anyone not hold out a few months for a OS6 PDA ? Even for a OS6 Tapwave?

PDAs rule the world !

RE: Wonder how many
indesman @ 10/31/2003 2:11:42 PM #
I think it is going to hurt their sales since most people who are looking at high end devices are aware that OS6 is coming. I think I could jump more easily if Tapwave came out with a statement regarding an OS6 upgrade. I'm really interested in the Zodiac but I'm on a three year upgrade cycle so I don't want to miss out on what's coming. I guess I'll have to limp along another 6 months with my IIIx.

RE: Wonder how many
JKingGrim @ 10/31/2003 5:51:00 PM #
The success of no PDA depends on upgradeability. You fail to realize that it is a very small minority that care.

RE: Wonder how many
nategall @ 11/1/2003 9:21:57 AM #
Bad news for the IIIx owner; 6 months from now, things will be better, cheaper, faster. And 6 months after that, things will be better, cheaper, faster. And 6 months after that, things will be better, cheaper, faster. And 6 months after that, things will be better, cheaper, faster. And 6 months after that, things will be better, cheaper, faster. And 6 months after that, things will be better, cheaper, faster. And 6 months after that, things will be better, cheaper, faster. And 6 months after that...

Never, ever buy anything, until you need it. After you buy something, stop looking at prices and features for at least 5-6 months.

nategall says "blah!"

RE: Wonder how many
ganoe @ 11/1/2003 10:08:19 AM #
> And 6 months after that, things will be better, cheaper, faster.
> [ ... ] Never, ever buy anything, until you need it.

OS 6 will be a fundamental shift for the Palm OS. Currently there are very, very few applications that run under OS 5 only (most work under OS 5, 4, 3, and even older releases). There will be many OS 6 only applications. It's like buying an OS 9 Mac that'll never run OS X, just a few months before the OS X release.

RE: Wonder how many
indesman @ 11/1/2003 4:52:07 PM #
Thanks ganoe, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's been said over and over that POS 5 is just POS 4.1 ported over to the ARM processor. POS 6, on the other hand, is an entirely new OS altogether.

Furthermore, while it's true that in the future there will be better devices with better features, improvement doesn't progress at an even rate. Look at the proliferation of new devices in new formats with new features that have come on the market in the past two months. I don't think there's ever been so much innovation in the Palm world in such a short period of time.

First day orders only

Foo Fighter @ 10/31/2003 2:28:35 PM #
Unfortunately it looks like Tapwave is only processing orders placed on 9/17. Those of us who ordered the next day, or later, won't be served until next week, hopefully Monday. And according to the CSR I spoke with, orders are processed during normal weekday business hours only, which rules out any chance of getting a confirmation email over the weekend. Bummer. 8^(

My blog:
RE: First day orders only
Fammy @ 10/31/2003 4:38:10 PM #
They should put in some OT! It's not every weekend you launch a new gaming console. =)

-- Fammy
RE: First day orders only
anderp @ 10/31/2003 4:48:51 PM #
I ordered on the 9/17 at 3:36 in the afternoon. No ship notice for me. :(
RE: First day orders only
bcombee @ 10/31/2003 7:06:50 PM #
From working directly with the TapWave people, I know firsthand that they are putting in a LOT of overtime right now... I'd expect that getting the manufacturing line up and going, as well as getting the final software builds ready, has been very challenging.

Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at

15-20 titles ready at launch?

Scott R @ 10/31/2003 3:09:54 PM #
"It will launch with roughly 15-20 games optimized for it including, "Neverwinter Nights," "Tony Hawk", "Spyhunter" and "Doom II."

If only.
- Tapwave Zodiac News, Reviews, & Discussion -

How is it for Palm functions?

jbeedham @ 10/31/2003 7:25:40 PM #
After seeing the N-Gage I was expected to be disappointed by this device. However, this may become a major contender since it does not look as stupid as the N-Gage. With the specs, it seems like the best value for a Palm with a 320x480 screen. My question is, how good is it for regular Palm programs and stuff?
RE: How is it for Palm functions?
shurcooL @ 11/2/2003 2:13:12 PM #
It's absolutely great as a normal Palm!

It has incredible controls, making playing even normal Palm games a much more enjoyable experience. And yes, it's completely backwards compatible, just like any other Palm OS 5 device. If a game or app works on Tungsten|T3, it'll work on Zodiac too. The analog joystick acts like a digital 5-way-pad when used with normal Palm apps.

The screen is large, bright and very pleasant to look at. If you've ever seen a Sony UX50, you'd know how important these 3.8" are.

The reason behind all of this is that Zodiac is nothing more than a handheld, *designed* with games in mind. It's not a game console, with Palm functionality slapped on. Everything's been worked out 'till perfection.



Fernando @ 11/1/2003 12:27:57 AM #
Just a question, will this have the palm universal connector? it would be a great replacement for my tungsten t if it did.... i know though that it's probably a long shot, but i'd just thought i'd make sure anyway.

M3wThr33 @ 11/1/2003 6:44:55 AM #
They planned on having it, but that was a while back, looks like that hope fell through and they used their own.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.

It's Here!!!

macshimidh @ 11/3/2003 11:13:33 AM #
I preordered at 5:45am on the first day, and paid for next day/afternoon delivery. All through the weekend (and in fact, even currently) my order status on Tapwave's site was unchanged and my card was not billed. However, my Zodiac arrived by 9:30am EST tis morning.

RE: It's Here!!!
Fammy @ 11/3/2003 11:35:45 AM #
Congrats. I should have ordered earlier. I haven't even received a shipping email yet. =(

Enjoy your Zodiac!

-- Fammy


Quik_Fix @ 11/3/2003 11:22:42 AM #
I thought the T3 was pretty tight until I started hearing about all the bugs.

This thing has been appealing to me for months. I'm really into it.

But will I really miss that much if I decide to buy it and not get an OS6 machine? Inevitably I will move up there, but is it a reason not to move to the Zodiac?

I'll have to wait until someone's written a review on this before I buy I think. I'd like to know how it REALLY works from some of the regulars around here.

Look, man! I ain't fallin' for no banana in my TAILPIPE!

RE: Torn
Solo @ 11/3/2003 11:57:16 AM #
Don't forget a thing about OS6 ; When it il will be out, you'll have to wait about 6 months to have all the useful software updated, and all the new quirks et bugs ironed out by either PalmSource or the hardware maker.

I dunno which PDA you're using presently, but let me say that I'm pretty happy switching from TT1 to TT3 for about $150 (I sold my T1 at a good price).

- Solo

P.S.: I am still waiting for software updates for: Launcher X, Splash Photo, Pocket Tunes, Agendus, Snappermail, etc...

RE: Torn
Altema @ 11/3/2003 12:13:47 PM #
"I dunno which PDA you're using presently, but let me say that I'm pretty happy switching from TT1 to TT3 for about $150 (I sold my T1 at a good price)."

Hey, same here. The wife did not want a hand-me-down this time after seeing the T3, but I also got a good price for my T1. If I did not use my device for work, I would have considered the Tapwave. But, I am enjoying the T3 immensely. Only drawback for gaming is getting used to the button layout for games like the old SpyHunter and GTS Racing. Some games work better, but the two-handed shooter games take a little getting used to.



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