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Orange has launched a new international service, similar to the US Push to Talk, that offers instant voice communication and easy-to-access group calling and messaging with a real-time availability icon. The Talk Now service is now being trailed with the Treo 600.
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Can't wait to try this baby

Hal2000 @ 1/19/2004 8:03:39 PM #
Woo Hoo (first post). Seriously, now my life is complete.

Pro>Prism>TG50>Zodiac2/T616
RE: Can't wait to try this baby
stephen007 @ 1/19/2004 11:30:42 PM #
Glad to see that your shallow, first-to-post-a-comment-on-PIC dreams have become a reality.

Stephen

RE: Can't wait to try this baby
Strider_mt2k @ 1/20/2004 6:03:09 AM #
Keep living the dream.

RE: Can't wait to try this baby
abosco @ 1/20/2004 10:32:15 AM #
Give the guy a break. It's tradition to be first to post or pick out the first typo in a review. Then again, it's also tradition to light their asses on fire afterwards for doing it. The real question is - when is Ryan going to start giving PRIZES to people who are first to post? :D

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616
RE: Can't wait to try this baby
Wollombi @ 1/20/2004 2:00:28 PM #
>"Glad to see that your shallow, first-to-post-a-comment-on-PIC dreams have become a reality."<

Actually, I think the "my life is complete" comment was referring to the phone, not being the first to post, hence the title "Can't wait to try this baby".

But of course, you were too busy looking for someone to slam to actually read the post in context, weren't you? Well, I hope it made you feel like less of a loser, anyway.

_________________
Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

RE: Can't wait to try this baby
jjsoh @ 1/20/2004 8:20:12 PM #
Wollombi

I hate to go OT, but I actually agree with stephen007 in regards to 'first-posting'. Only, I choose to ignore it rather than reply.

I personally find it annoying and it never adds anything to the discussion. YMMV. Even the subject of the parent poster left me wondering: "And...?" Besides, I believe that it could have gone either way from the way it was worded.

I don't blame this first-poster, but just first-posting in general. It encourages others to do so without bringing anything worth discussing to the table, breeding more "Me too!"s, only to then get out of hand once popularity grows (just look at what happened to Slashdot).

I remember when PIC used to be civilized (well, as civilized as forums can get amidst some flame wars, i.e. Palm vs. Sony) with light humor spread evenly. Though, it honestly doesn't bother me as much when there's actually some substance in the comment with a 'first post' snuck in.

Sorry for the long rant. I'm sure there are people who don't agree. That's fine, but I had to get that off my chest.

Jim

RE: Can't wait to try this baby
Hal2000 @ 1/21/2004 9:54:19 PM #
Hey Jim, Seventh Post!!!!!!!: (quietly and in micro-font:woo hoo).I wish to apologize for my enthusiasm
and will keep it in my pants until Ed Hardy comes back.

Zodiac2/T616

Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble

;-) @ 1/20/2004 3:49:40 AM #
Yawn. Push-To-Talk is for 16 year old girls gabbing endlessly to each other at the mall. Most people buying $600 phones aren't too interested in PTT.


A much more important story broke yesterday when a group of hackers at Treocentral found a way to unlock GSM Treo 600 by using files found when someone's Treo crashed during an upgrade. Carriers like Orange are going to go ballistic when they see all their subsidized phones getting unlocked. The danger of these smart-phones has always been how easy it might be to unlock them. Now we see those fear were well-founded. Palm better try to fix this latest disaster PRONTO.


http://discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/-t46561/s.html



It's just too big.

RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
Strider_mt2k @ 1/20/2004 6:03:55 AM #
I think contractors, public service folks, not to mention Police and Fire officials might argue with you on that push to talk opinion. :rolleyes:



RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
;-) @ 1/20/2004 7:11:40 AM #
(someone barfed): "I think contractors, public service folks, not to mention Police and Fire officials might argue with you on that push to talk opinion. :rolleyes:"


Yeah right. A whole lotta "contractors, public service folks, not to mention Police and Fire officials" carry around a fragile $600 phone that seems to break every time you even look at it funny. Or maybe you think the Treo 600's blurry, low res camera will make it worth buying?

The Treo 600 is a nice smart phone, but it looks like Palm's getting caught up in the features race when they should be concentrating on the BASICS. They need to fix the phone, speakerphone, quality control, low res screen, SDIO, lack of removable battery, external antenna, SD card slot that keeps ejecting cards, lack of voice recorder, lack of profiles, quiet ringtones, lack of Bluetooth, rattling buttons, blurry camera, screwed-up headphone jack and other problems BEFORE they add even more crap that can just go wrong.

Here's a tip - there's a reason so many teens carry those cheap-ass PTT phones: they're cheap.


It's just too big.

RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
allemande @ 1/20/2004 8:50:08 AM #
PTT is doable with software. every other smartphone will have PTT too, big deal.
RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
variance1126 @ 1/20/2004 9:12:13 AM #
If what you say is true and PTT won't make it, then explain to us, why NEXTEL is currently the 2nd most successful cellular carrier in North America?

First is Verizzon, and third is TELUS Mobility up here in Canada.

NEXTEL specializes in PTT with their Motorola iDEN technology phones.

I see this PTT service going above and beyond, especially for business users. The mere fact that you can be on "AWAY" status on your phone, and let everyone else know who has you as their contact is simply amazing. It's basically mobile ICQ/MSN w/ voice. It's going to be huge.

I can't wait.

Cheers,
var

RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep troub
Edward Green @ 1/20/2004 9:57:38 AM #
First of all the Orange Treo 600 is NOT a $600 phone. It is a $100 phone last time I checked on a reasonable contract.

Second I don't understand why unlocking the phone is such a huge issue? I am still tied into my $35 a month contract with Orange which includes 120 minutes of outward calls to any number.

I would be keen to try the Orange PTT solution.

Edward Green
--
http://www.khite.co.uk

RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
Wollombi @ 1/20/2004 2:04:49 PM #
>"I see this PTT service going above and beyond, especially for business users. The mere fact that you can be on "AWAY" status on your phone, and let everyone else know who has you as their contact is simply amazing. It's basically mobile ICQ/MSN w/ voice. It's going to be huge."<

Yes, and Orange won't be the only ones to benefit. Verizon and Sprint have these same features that you mention above on their PTT services as well (Although Verizon's PTT service is @sstacularly bad). What Orange did to go over and above was to take it international. This is a great step for PTT, and for wireless service in general as it could be the start of a trend to be compatible worldwide, bringing an industry of fragmented protocols and standards closer together.

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Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
MJGunn @ 1/20/2004 7:08:23 PM #
"If what you say is true and PTT won't make it, then explain to us, why NEXTEL is currently the 2nd most successful cellular carrier in North America?"

Uhhh, I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly, the list of subscribers goes something like this.....

1) Verizon
2) Cingular
3) Sprint
4) AT&T
5) Nextel
6) T-Mobile

Personally, I can't stand PTT, I don't see the point of it. Thats just what I need, one of my idiot friends to start talking out of my phone while I'm standing in line or something. Are you so impatient that you can't wait 15 seconds for someone to answer their phone?

RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
Strider_mt2k @ 1/20/2004 7:18:23 PM #
Yeah right. A whole lotta "contractors, public service folks, not to mention Police and Fire officials" carry around a fragile $600 phone that seems to break every time you even look at it funny. Or maybe you think the Treo 600's blurry, low res camera will make it worth buying?

"The Treo 600 is a nice smart phone, but it looks like Palm's getting caught up in the features race when they should be concentrating on the BASICS. They need to fix the phone, speakerphone, quality control, low res screen, SDIO, lack of removable battery, external antenna, SD card slot that keeps ejecting cards, lack of voice recorder, lack of profiles, quiet ringtones, lack of Bluetooth, rattling buttons, blurry camera, screwed-up headphone jack and other problems BEFORE they add even more crap that can just go wrong."

Insults not withstanding..

My statement is based on what I've seen in the industry I work in.


RE: Treos can now be unlocked easily - Palm is in deep trouble
;-) @ 1/20/2004 9:35:00 PM #
If what you say is true and PTT won't make it, then explain to us, why NEXTEL is currently the 2nd most successful cellular carrier in North America?

First is Verizzon, and third is TELUS Mobility up here in Canada.

Living in the tundra must have frozen your brain, Nanook.

1) Verizon
2) Cingular
3) AT&T (or maybe 2nd)
4) Sprint

Nextel is in the top 20 countdown, though. Congratulations.


I didn't say no one likes PTT. It seems as though millions of those Nextel idiots are out there screaming into their walkie talkies everywhere I go. But not too many people paying for $600 phones (to the Brit above, North Americans pay $300 - $600+ for their Treo 600) will be obnoxious enough to want PTT. Fortunately.

PTT = Phones for Trailer Trash.

'Nuff said.



It's just too big.

Push to talk!

iNOMAD @ 1/20/2004 9:56:04 AM #
Come on nextel. Give me a treo or a smartphone!

Im going to buy a Sony TH55!
RE: Push to talk!
hkklife @ 1/20/2004 11:38:27 AM #
I'll nominate Verizon as *badly* needing something like this. Somehow, a V60P seems like its PTT features have been grafted on to a phone not originally designed for such capability (battery, etc). On top of that, Verizon's PTT implementation still seems to be buggy at best but a solid PTT phone would do a lot to ease the early adopter woes.



RE: Push to talk!
Wollombi @ 1/20/2004 2:08:35 PM #
Check out Sprint's PCS Ready-Link. Better quality PTT service and some outstanding phones to go with it (I like the Sanyo VM4500 myself).

_________________
Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

Nextel's missing a chock-full

vesther @ 1/20/2004 10:37:23 PM #
I hope that this Treo 600 PTT Version will come to the market soon with Nextel Service--Nextel is pretty much dying for some Palm Culture IMO. Hopefully, the Treo 600 PTT Trim should be coming in the US soon--I just want something different other than a Motorola--I'd rather take a Palm-Powered Direct Connect Device over a boring Motorola in any time of the day.

In a Desolate Forest, an enchanted Palm-Powered Handheld is waiting to possess a helpless soul in the wake--The Palm-Powered Handheld's name is EURENZANNIG.

I HATE Push to Talk

Gekko @ 1/20/2004 11:55:03 PM #
Too many loud, ignorant, annoying jackasses with no courtesy in restaurants using it for trivialities when I'm trying to enjoy my meal. The bastards make me get up and say something.



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