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PalmInfocenter contributor Kerry Lannert reviews the latest new Palm OS handheld from Sony, the TH55. The Clie TH55 runs Palm OS 5.2.1 and is powered by the Sony Handheld Engine CPU. It features integrated Wi-Fi, a built-in 310K pixel camera, a built-in voice recorder and debuts Sony's new Clie Organizer enhanced PIM application.
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Impressive!

abosco @ 3/15/2004 8:25:39 PM #
An impressive device for an equally impressive review. Very well done!

I'm still disappointed in the lack of Bluetooth in the US model and the whole HandHeld Engine, but as a whole, it seems to be worth the money.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Impressive!
gfunkmagic @ 3/15/2004 8:48:59 PM #
Agreed! Great review! In addition the MS card cover seems like it may be a bit flimsy imo...but overall a great device...

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RE: Impressive!
Foo Fighter @ 3/16/2004 12:06:54 AM #
Great job, Ryan. I wonder if third party developers will create flip cover replacement options?

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RE: Impressive!
davidtcollett @ 3/16/2004 12:32:08 AM #
Nice review. It is nice to see device reviews on PIC again...is the TJ37 going to be around soon?

RE: Impressive!
DWD @ 3/16/2004 3:17:34 AM #
Great review! Almost makes me want to buy a Sony...almost.

RE: Impressive!
Altema @ 3/16/2004 11:26:17 AM #
Nice job on the review Kezza, and it's nice to see you back!

Memory stick
TTrules @ 3/19/2004 7:13:37 PM #
I would upgrade to a high-end sony if it weren't for the memory stick. Why dosen't sony just use sd like everyone else? I have a 256 mb sd card in my TT1, and don't want it to go to waste when I upgrade. Now I am forced to go palm or ppc. Which means all I'll be buying is palm.

One Palm to rule them all!
RE: Impressive!
viqsi @ 3/19/2004 7:20:55 PM #
Because Sony is determined to single-handedly take over the market with Memory Stick. It hasn't failed yet for much the same reason that WinCE survived those first four or five years - the company's big enough to survive it, and it's got enough presence in the consumer electronics market to force it in anyways. Who knows, maybe someday it'll actually be a worthwhile choice outside of Existing Trapped Customers not wanting to lose their investment.

If you see a Sony PDA come out with an SD slot, or indeed Any sort of expansion that isn't Memory Stick or otherwise Sony-crafted, then the world has ended. I'd sooner expect a native Linux port of Microsoft Office.

typo. . .

sub_tex @ 3/15/2004 8:45:10 PM #
"With power save off, browsing is a little slow, and big web pages took an eternity. Small pages, especially those optimized for PDA screens, loaded quickly and looked great. With power save off, I found browsing standard web pages much better. . ."

which is which?

RE: typo. . .
Admin @ 3/15/2004 8:48:50 PM #
thanks I updated, that. I'm sure Kerry meant on in the first reference.

Returned Mine

jmstroup @ 3/15/2004 10:13:10 PM #
I returned my TH55 after it kept locking up and crashing. I was trying to convert from a Tungsten T setup to a Clie setup and had nothing but problems. I resolved it by returning my TH55 and getting a T3. Love it except no WI-FI and battery life is weak.


RE: Returned Mine
timepilot84 @ 3/16/2004 12:25:46 AM #
When I got mine, it did the same thing. I then pulled my head out of my butt and instead of just syncing the new TH-55 to my old installation of Palm Desktop, I used the migration utility provided by Sony and had no problems at all. I think that when I'd sync with the old Palm Desktop, it was installing my TT OS patches into the TH55 which was causing the crashes.

I'm happier than a pig in poop with the th-55, no kidding. The battery life is excellent and wi-fi works so much better than BT for what I need (wireless networking w/o a BT phone)

The only problem I have with the TH-55 is that the stylus sucks eggs. It's reminiscent of the toothpick from a Swiss Army knife, in size and quality.


RE: Returned Mine
BikerTech @ 3/16/2004 9:56:01 AM #
My question is different: where id you purchase your TH55? I ordered mine w/ BestBuy.com a month again and still waiting. I also see that mwave.com has it listed in stock, anyone can comment on this? Thanks.


I love my Clie!

BikerTech

Transferring to a new Palm
madmaxmedia @ 3/16/2004 12:40:23 PM #
You should never just transfer everything over when switching. If you are at least upgrading within a company (Palm to Palm, Sony to Sony) it should be okay. That's why Sony made the Migration tool.

But it's worth taking an hour or so to start from scratch and re-install stuff. There are a lot of orphaned files that get left on your PDA that are worth getting rid of to free up memory.


RE: Returned Mine
Altema @ 3/16/2004 12:48:44 PM #
"You should never just transfer everything over when switching. If you are at least upgrading within a company (Palm to Palm, Sony to Sony) it should be okay."

Couldn't agree more. I messed up my first T series this way... had to go back and install from scratch when a few forgotten files transfered from my M515.

RE: Returned Mine
JonathanChoo @ 3/16/2004 2:07:52 PM #
Well I played around with the TH55 for a while before deciding its not for me. It costs £299, cheaper than the T3 when the T3 was new. The T3 cost £270 now. Anyway, the UK version has WiFi and Bluetooth built-in. Not bad for a £299 and put the 'ultimate' dual-wireless PPC the h4150 to shame which costs £450 when it came out.

Anyway what about the TH55 when compared with my current PDA the T3? It uses Memory Stick. I don't own any Sony PDAs since the NR70V so I don't have any with me. So I can't test the VFS speed. The screen is very nice, not as bright as my T3 but still nice. There is no landscape support. Landscape support is essential for me as I use them for reading books and surfing WebPro. I do not like the flip cover. Its cheesy and does not fold all the way back. Lets hope some company create replacement leather covers that can be folded.

The PIM is interesting...I would say its a nice addition but I rather have the full Outlook field compatibility on my T3. But its nice, I guess we have to wait for an OS6 Sony before we have the best of both world.

The camera is useless. VGA...come on!

It is slow. Even within Sony's designed and optimized new launcher its slow. But not too slow. I will put it on par with an OMAP powered OS5 PDA.

I hate the position of the jogdial. Why? It is a mad place for gaming. It is nice to be innovative but not at the expense of usability! It seems as though Sony can't think of any other way of making their Clies unique so they put the navigator at the back. It did make the Clie unique but in a bad way. I like the casing though. Non slippery and looks tough. Probably won't need a case to protect it.

Overall I did not buy it. OS6 is just around the corner as with official PPC2004 PDAs. And Sony's UK service is just pathetic.

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RE: Returned Mine
Dural @ 3/16/2004 7:17:53 PM #
> "I will put it on par with an OMAP powered OS5 PDA."

I tried the Sony Clie TH55 in the store, and one of the first things I notice it's very sluggish, no where near as responsive as my Tungsten E with it's 126 MHz OMAP 311 processor.

I don't know, but was wondering if the extra PIM functionality is dragging the whole thing down.

RE: Returned Mine
Dural @ 3/16/2004 7:26:16 PM #
> "Its speed varies between 8 MHz and 123 MHz, depending on system demand."

Well there you have it. No wonder it felt sluggish, and it's battery lasts so long, as you sacrifice responsiveness, when it running at low speed.

RE: Returned Mine
Mark29 @ 3/17/2004 6:09:41 AM #
To BikerTech:
You wrote
"My question is different: where id you purchase your TH55? I ordered mine w/ BestBuy.com a month again and still waiting. I also see that mwave.com has it listed in stock, anyone can comment on this? Thanks."

Check the TH forum at ClieSource.com for comments on the BestBuy.com preorders. I had mine on preorder there as well and gave up after waiting 2 weeks. I ordered mine from ecost.com for a mere $6 more than the BB price, and had it within 3 days. They've got it for $339 + shipping right now.

Mark

RE: Returned Mine
BikerTech @ 3/17/2004 12:11:33 PM #
Is there a way to turn off the PIM? I am still waiting for mine to come.



BikerTech

RE: Returned Mine
Altema @ 3/17/2004 12:47:58 PM #
"Well there you have it. No wonder it felt sluggish, and it's battery lasts so long, as you sacrifice responsiveness, when it running at low speed."

Bingo, you hit the nail on the head! Sony would not have put all that work into the processor if there was no advantage in battery life. If a person does not like charging, then they should not complain about speed, even though the speed of the TH55 is fine for most things. Likewise, someone who buys a compact device with the fastest processor and a lot of RAM really can't expect battery life to be a strong point.

BTW; the PXA255 in the T3 also does a speed change in some situations, but does have the level of control that the Sony does. The CPU clock on the T3 is set to 200Mhz, with 400Mhz being the turbo mode. From the looks of it, it kicks up to high speed whenever it's not loafing around in one of the PIM apps or something like that. The actual CPU can cruise comfortably at 532Mhz without a drastic hit on battery life, but it does make a difference. Above 550Mhz, you're on your own, as this gets into the grey area depending on the individual chip. If you plan on exploring the upper limits with a utility, be sure you have a current backup and know how to open your device to disconnect the battery! If it freaks out due to overclocking, you will NOT be able to do a reset.

I don't think those utilities would work on the TH55 with the differnt CPU and speed management built in.

RE: Returned Mine
Altema @ 3/17/2004 1:29:54 PM #
PS: It's funny that we are concerned with speed on a 123Mhz capable device... I remember the big jump in speed when I went from the IIIc to the 33Mhz M505 :)

Bleh

tthiel @ 3/16/2004 12:04:46 AM #
Button sucks, screen sucks, stylus sucks, next.

RE: Bleh
ojlittle @ 3/16/2004 12:52:15 AM #
Very helpful comments...
RE: Bleh
mikecane @ 3/16/2004 2:53:54 AM #
tthiel, what PDA are you using these days?

RE: Bleh
Jejoma @ 3/16/2004 5:07:18 AM #
Two years this was exactly what I wanted (particularly the full-sized screen) - 18 months ago this was exactly what I wanted - 12 months ago I gave up waiting and bought a Sony Ericsson P800.

I won't be going pack to Palm. This was far too late in coming out.

Jejoma

RE: Bleh
Altema @ 3/16/2004 1:25:20 PM #
"Two years this was exactly what I wanted (particularly the full-sized screen) - 18 months ago this was exactly what I wanted - 12 months ago I gave up waiting and bought a Sony Ericsson P800."

Not exactly a full sized screen, but certainly an awesome phone. I can see why you're a happy camper with it. I'd consider it if I did not need Office compatibility (or all the $ I've thrown into games!)

RE: Bleh
Timothy Rapson @ 3/16/2004 1:35:58 PM #
RE: Jejoma

Exactly. I got a cheap Zire 71 to tide me over. If this TH55 had come out a year ago, maybe. If it were now selling for the TJ37 price, if, if, if. But, I am not getting a TH55. Sony just doesn't want to make PDAs. They just want to make money and stare MS in the face in as many markets as they can.

RE: Bleh
Timothy Rapson @ 3/16/2004 1:42:17 PM #
BTW Althema, Docs to Go and Quick Office are now both available with support for native word document viewing and editing on the P800 (now P900) and other Symbian 7 OS phones.

RE: Bleh
Mark29 @ 3/17/2004 6:13:49 AM #
Nobody will argue that the stylus sucks. Quantify your comments about the screen & buttons. I find just the opposite.

Mark

RE: Bleh
Altema @ 3/17/2004 12:43:00 PM #
"Docs to Go and Quick Office are now both available with support for native word document viewing and editing on the P800 (now P900)"

Really? Too cool, I'll check it out.

camera resolution

Galley_SimRacer @ 3/16/2004 2:03:46 AM #
310,000 megapixel, wow! You'd be lucky to get even one photo on a 4GB Memory Stick! ;-)

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"I'm not a cool person in real life, but I play one on the Internet".
Galley
RE: camera resolution
a_nonamiss @ 3/16/2004 10:14:25 AM #
LOL... Good catch. I missed that one in the article.

Arthur

Palm Pilot 1000 > Palm Pilot Professional > Palm III > Palm M100 > Sony Clié PEG-T415 > Palm T|T3

Mysteriously crippled device.

epinto @ 3/16/2004 8:10:09 AM #
I'd really like to hear the argument backing the decision to cripple the TH-55 and disable Bluetooth, no BS or PR... just the reasons. No, I'm not going to go into detail of how noticeably dissapointed I am with it... or how it would be the candidate of "Best Freaking Palm Device To Date"(TM). I would have actually consider brown-bagging my lunch for the next couple of months to make up the money difference.

All kidding aside... I'm quite dissapointed at Sony, you just messed up a product that *many* consider approaching feature nirvana. Techies would've beaten the path to your online stores to buy this.

Why, oh why? [sits down and waits quietly for a level headed answer]

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RE: Mysteriously crippled device.
Altema @ 3/16/2004 11:33:27 AM #
Good question. Leaving BT in a device with this much battery would be great. WiFi is fine (I design WiFi networks), but I find myself out of range or on the road most of the time, so a BT access point on my belt works fine... except for loading speed of full web pages with a lot of graphics ;)

RE: Mysteriously crippled device.
epinto @ 3/16/2004 12:51:02 PM #
UK vertion of the TH55 will have Bluetooth.
see here -> http://tinyurl.com/2ff28

this really stinks. :(

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RE: Mysteriously crippled device.
ganoe @ 3/16/2004 5:08:02 PM #
Yeah, I am at a total loss on this one. No Bluetooth = No Sale in my book. I am usually not easily tempted by Sony's PDAs, but I was fairly impressed with this one when I saw it in the store. I can't believe they intentionally left out such a critical feature.
RE: Mysteriously crippled device.
phoneboy @ 3/18/2004 11:28:02 AM #
I AGREE 150%! Both Wi-fi and Bluetooth are essential for my PDA. I wonder if the BT hardware is in the US model, and it is just disabled in the firmware. Could there be a hack to activate it?

It is a manufacturing technique that wireless phone manufacturers use all the time. For example, they mass produce a phone with multiple band capabilites (1900 MHZ CDMA & 800 MHZ AMPS), but may sell it to a wireless provider at a cheaper price who only needs one band, with firmware disabling the use of the extra bands. It would simply cost more to make a special batch of the phones with the extra hardware removed.

In the case of Sony it could just be wishful thinking on my part. I wish I knew the reason why Sony did this.

RE: Mysteriously crippled device.
alexenitalie @ 4/26/2004 10:53:29 AM #
Someone commented about the TH-55 available in europe with bluetooth. It's true. I live in Italy and it is available here with bluetooth and wi-fi. The price is higher of course, averaging about 420 euros a pop (that's $504.00 US dollars)... a little steeper than what I am seeing on US web sites. I could include the link to the Sony tech data page in Europe if anyone wants to see what other things are missing from the US models (if anything).

TH55 cover "plugs"

hotweiss @ 3/16/2004 8:22:53 AM #
If you don't like the TH55 hard cover you can remove it and put in some plugs.

http://homepage2.nifty.com/unzan/palm/pegth55_4.html

Palm Pilot Personal -> Palm V -> Palm M515 -> Sony Clie T610 -> Handspring Treo 270 -> Palm Zire -> Palm Tungsten C

RE: TH55 cover
kezza @ 3/16/2004 9:24:46 AM #
Yeah, I just spotted these this morning.
Also, I wouldn't mind colored covers, like ones available for the SJ33:
http://www.pdair.com/sj33cover.shtml

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Lose the camera

a_nonamiss @ 3/16/2004 10:16:55 AM #
I'd love to see a $299 device with these specs, but no camera. I have a nice digital camera, and don't need a crappy one. It's just a feature that they can use to drive up the price point. Otherwise, it doesn't really compare too favorably with the T3, except I'm fed up with Palm's support, and looking for an alternative.

Arthur

Palm Pilot 1000 > Palm Pilot Professional > Palm III > Palm M100 > Sony Clié PEG-T415 > Palm T|T3

RE: Lose the camera
chelu @ 4/21/2004 2:10:01 AM #
Just curious ... what's wrong with PALM's service? What was your experience?

Technical correction within CO

Miss Clie @ 3/16/2004 11:14:37 AM #
"The Datebook replacement provides users with the ability to stick pictures, notes, and digital ink writing directly onto the day, week, and month views of the calendar. It does not include a view with the to do list items. It does, however, support a non-user-configurable palette of event colors and icons."

Well, while there's not a view to pick that includes the ToDo list, bringing up the contents bar at the bottom (the black swath with photos) allows you to pick from another menu at the bottom left offering Contents, Stickers, and ToDo List. So you can get a mini-window of your To-Dos while you're in the Day, Week, and Month views. It's not the greatest, though.

Good review otherwise; I'm curious if you've experienced any duplicate alarms or freezes where the CO alarms compete with the Date Book alarms?

RE: Technical correction within CO
kezza @ 3/16/2004 1:18:40 PM #
I did have duplicate alarms because I also had DateBk5 installed. I decided to stick with the CO exclusively within a day or two of ownership, so DateBk5 is no longer set to handle alarms and I haven't had any dupes since i did that. No freezes, either.

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RE: Technical correction within CO
kezza @ 3/16/2004 1:26:00 PM #
Oh, and as for the contents -- i never even noticed that dropdown menu! i swear i read the whole CO manual, too. Guess i must've missed that part. it'll make it into the CO review, though, for sure. ;)

Question -- have you figured out a way to tell it not to show completed todos in the contents panel? I can't make mine go away.

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RE: Technical correction within CO
rldunn @ 3/16/2004 1:38:28 PM #
There's no way to get rid of completed todos in the contents bar, short of doing a purge. In the regular todo window, there is an option to hide completed todos - not sure why this option doesn't apply to the contents bar version.

RE: Technical correction within CO
Miss Clie @ 3/16/2004 1:43:40 PM #
Yeah, my completed ToDos show there, too. Guess rldunn's example is the way to go. Hi Rod! :)

I don't use CO, so I only go in there to poke around. The lack of certain settings and features then begins to annoy me, so I go running back and hug DB5. Incidentally, CESD released a version SM of DB5 that eliminated the dupes, if you ever want to go back to DB5. It works just fine.

Other than that, I absolutely love my TH55. I'm just waiting for the perfect bottom-flap slipper case to be created, and I'll be totally happy.

MP3's while playing games

Altema @ 3/16/2004 11:45:28 AM #
Quick question; do you notice any difference in gameplay when an MP3 is playing at the same time? Silly question, but it is a lot of fun to pick your own music.

What is that in the photo?

4s @ 3/16/2004 11:47:45 AM #
What is that thing on the couch? Some sort of dog? Even after looking at the larger version, I cannot tell.

I have a T3 that I only have because I was lucky enough to get an Office Depot $199 Special. I don't really like the slider, and always wanted a tablet-style Palm. This think really is kind of tempting.

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RE: What is that in the photo?
4s @ 3/16/2004 11:50:24 AM #
The Clie looks tempting. Not the thing on the couch.

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RE: What is that in the photo?
Altema @ 3/16/2004 12:54:22 PM #
It's a dog, and they are upset because the jog wheel is on the back which makes it more difficult to use with paws.

RE: What is that in the photo?
kezza @ 3/16/2004 1:22:53 PM #
Yes, it's the family dog. he was very tired and taking a nap.

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RE: What is that in the photo?
DevPOV @ 3/16/2004 1:34:47 PM #
Dogs don't like Sony - they like Pawlms...

RE: What is that in the photo?
Miss Clie @ 3/16/2004 1:49:43 PM #
Cats like CLIEs - the Cat Litter Issuance Eliminator
RE: What is that in the photo?
Altema @ 3/17/2004 12:45:24 PM #
Groan...

software thoughts?

ganoe @ 3/16/2004 6:48:59 PM #
I see that the author says the software will be: "discussed in detail in an upcoming review". That's good to hear, but I'd be interested to hear anyone's comments on it now. I played with it briefly in the store, and found the side tabs to be annoying and some of the interface less than intuitive. I keep remembering having problems figuring out how to get back to Applications. I'm sure some of the things should have been obvious to me, but I remember how trivial these same things were when I first picked up a Palm device and am disappointed at how Sony seems to be going out of their way to make it more difficult to use. Having to hit tiny buttons/tabs with a stylus is a pain too.

Even worse in the store, the Sonys were next to each other and I was surprised how different of interfaces they have managed to put across their line of Palm OS devices. A little more consistency would be appreciated.

Has anyone else spent more considerable time with the software? What is their reasoning for tinkering with a good thing?

RE: software thoughts?
Miss Clie @ 3/17/2004 11:40:38 AM #
A couple of things about the CO & interface.

First, the TH55 comes bundled with 3 different launcher options. You can use the standard Palm-style launcher with the additional option of Sony's tiny icons view. You can use the Sony Clie Launcher, which is the long-list view with the category 'dial' on the top left. Or you can choose the Clie Organizer launcher, which is basically the Palm-style view, with tabs on the side, and some 'favorites' docking spots on the bottom.

So there's no lack of options where the launcher is concerned on this model. Just pick the one you like the best, and make it your launcher. I applaud Sony for offering all of the options, since everyone has their own style and organizational levels.

Regarding the CO itself, it has mostly better functionality than the built-in Palm Datebook, but those functions are still in their infantcy. So it's totally a matter of taste at this time. Eventually, I think a lot of the options and intuitive items that folks are used to will be incorporated into the CO components. It'll be interesting to see how deeply Sony wants to venture into the software business.

Bluetooth options??

nusa @ 3/17/2004 3:25:29 PM #
So how does one get a PEG TH55 WITH bluetooth? Are they only sold in expensivo-Euros/Pounds? If we buy one at, say, an int'l duty-free store or abroad... is there any reason why they wouldn't work here? (i.e. does the wireless work differently?) ... and repeating the question: Does anyone have any idea WHY Sony would EXCLUDE the US market from having bluetooth??
RE: Bluetooth options??
JonathanChoo @ 3/17/2004 4:00:52 PM #
It will work in US (apart from the AC Adapter). Even after minusing the VAT from Europe, it will still be very expensive. No idea why Sony does not include Bluetooth. Go ask the FCC. I suspect they might have imposed stricter wireless control when compared to Europe.

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Mobiles: StarTac > Ericsson T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630
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RE: Bluetooth options??
JonathanChoo @ 3/17/2004 4:03:58 PM #
It costs US461 after removing the VAT from www.microanvika.com

Ah...I think I know why Sony is excluding BT from US models. Most Europeans buy PDAs from America through online merchants because its cheaper. An European Bluetooth only model can be seen as an incentive to some people not to purchase from the US.

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Mobiles: StarTac > Ericsson T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630
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RE: Bluetooth options??
Jejoma @ 3/18/2004 4:29:03 AM #
They do? That's a new one on me.

Jejoma
RE: Bluetooth options??
mikecane @ 3/18/2004 10:20:15 AM #
>>>Most Europeans buy PDAs from America through online merchants because its cheaper.

Yep! I can vouch for that -- I see them in NYC stores all the time wanting to buy PDAs and cellphones to take back and use in Europe. It's bad enough having to keep track of US cellphone options and standards -- but then you have Euros asking about *their* systems.

RE: Bluetooth options??
Altema @ 3/18/2004 11:02:03 AM #
"Does anyone have any idea WHY Sony would EXCLUDE the US market from having bluetooth??"

They did not save any significant money by its exclusion, but it must be cost related. Perhaps to prevent erosion of another product... maybe they aren't selling enough BT Memory Sticks ;)

My thoughts...

Myndwalker @ 3/17/2004 5:56:20 PM #
Currently using a T3 and a S-E T616.

1) Like the full screen without a slider
2) DO NOT NEED OR WANT 802.11
3) NEED Bluetooth
4) Would like a faster processor
5) Would prefer SD or CF to Memory Stick
6) Don't need another digital camera less than 8MP

Maybe the next model...

What's this I read that the UK version has BT?

RE: My thoughts...
cyril @ 4/13/2004 4:33:19 AM #
The Tapwave Zodiac has what you need - it's better than the T3 or TH55 if u dont need wifi IMHO!

sure she is not recharging?

Winter_ @ 3/18/2004 7:53:10 AM #
I have just limited experience with a T3, and one of my doubts / complains is: since the hotsync cradle can get power from the USB bus, there's no way to keep the T3 from recharging. (without the power brick, the recharging is just slower, but still happens). You can see that the T3's LED lights up (indicating the charging) when seated in a USB-connected cradle.

So, if the reviewer of the TH55 has been hotsyncing... how has she managed to stop the recharging?

(Perhaps Clies are different?)

RE: sure she is not recharging?
Miss Clie @ 3/18/2004 8:52:56 AM #
The TH55 comes with two cords and no cradle. Both cords plug into a 'dongle' that then plugs into the TH55. Like such: []>=====

So if you have both cords hooked up to the dongle at your PC, then you're going to get charging while syncing. However, if you do it like I do, and sync at the desk while charging by the bed, then you are only getting the sync cord coming into the dongle (no power/light, doesn't engage the charger) at the PC, then you take the TH55 and the dongle over to the bedside table and plug the power into the dongle in order to charge. The dongle makes it rather annoying.

RE: sure she is not recharging?
mikecane @ 3/18/2004 10:29:27 AM #
And they don't sell the dongle separately, either!

RE: sure she is not recharging? (and: recharging with 4NiMH?
Winter_ @ 3/18/2004 12:40:28 PM #
Ok... thanks for the info :).

So, really the TH55's battery is incredibly better than the T3's... well, time to look for PowerToGo and such.

While we're at it... anyone knows if I could build a recharger from 4 NiMH AA batteries? 4x1.2 volt=4'8, close enough to the 5 volts provided by USB or the T3 power brick, so I guess it should work; but the fact is, the closest commercial thing I've seen uses a 9 volt battery...

RE: sure she is not recharging?
beaumich @ 3/26/2004 6:24:02 PM #
Miss Clie - go spend $30 on a UC55 docking station. Not only doesn't it need a dongle (has a port for the power cord), it also stands the Clie up so you can keep Big Clock on and you've got a bedside alarm clock you can see in the dark without picking it up.

RE: sure she is not recharging?
rogerrub @ 3/29/2004 2:48:05 PM #
Winter -

Sony already makes a recharger that uses 4 AA batteries (alkaline or rechargeable). Check under Clié Accessories on their Web site and then use Pricegrabber.com to find the best price.


Totally new?

viqsi @ 3/19/2004 6:41:55 PM #
Please, please, *PLEASE* for the love of God tell me they didn't break backwards compatibility with the existing basic PIM databases for CO... because if they have, then Sony has destroyed the second-to-last remaining nice PalmOS cross-compatibility beauty that has kept it going well for eight years, and I would be forced to truly hate them and their supporters. And I really don't want to have to do that.

Speed ?!?

kki @ 3/20/2004 8:38:18 PM #
Hi

Is TH55 so slow ?!?
Isn't possible to make some benchmark
to give us some kind of measure of its speed ?

Thanks

Ciao.

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