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Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the web and World Wide Web Consortium, considers the recently proposed new mobile only Top Level Domain harmful. He feels the ".mobi" extension breaks the web architecture and attacks the universality of the web.
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Wow...but I mean...MEH!

Palm Cow @ 5/26/2004 10:09:02 PM #
I don't see why...I mean, if you have a mobile site, you'd probably have a normal site too! So that's 2 domains to own, which does not make sense to me! I don't really see where this would be better than www.toshibageniosrulemypantsoff.com/mobile? Would you help me see the use?

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RE: Wow...but I mean...MEH!
Altema @ 5/27/2004 9:31:26 AM #
Huge waste of time and resources. Only logical motive I can see is someone trying to make more money. I can already surf anywhere I want on my PDA, and can get to what I need fine if I have to use the dinky sceen on the phone. Using the phone is fine in a pinch, but even the optimized sites are slower on the phone than the same site viewed on the PDA. The benefits to mobile only domains are... let me see... NOTHING!

TLDs v/s sub-domains

achitnis @ 5/26/2004 10:16:54 PM #
The proposers of the new TLDs basically had their minds check out for lunch, and not come back.

Why create a completely separate TLD for mobile devices? Would I want to go to palminfocenter.mobi? Doesn't make sense at all.

For better or for worse, if "www" as a subdomain has established itself this well ("it aint a website unless it is www.yourdomain.com"), why not push for a standard subdomain/prefix for mobile content - mobile.yourdomain.com, anybody?

As always, this is essentially an attempt to bring in more revenues. How many TLDs would I have to buy my company name under to protect it?

As someone once told me - "The only thing that eclipses the greed of some people is the stupidity of the schemes they come up with to cater to it".



Atul Chitnis
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RE: TLDs v/s sub-domains
Bartman007 @ 5/27/2004 2:34:11 AM #
I couldn't agree more. I was about to post something to the same effect earlier, but had the choice between doing that, and being late to a Chem midterm...

I have always hated .biz, .info, .tv, etc... I would much rather have sites use subdomains, especially since many of them are snatched up by cyber squatters hoping to wrench some cash out of somebody else's pocket.

If this goes through, I'm sure someone will eventaully petition to get .fart registered as a TLD so they can finally have to URL that goes with Letterman's clownpenis.fart joke.


Peace,
-Bartman007

RE: TLDs v/s sub-domains
shogun @ 5/27/2004 8:41:45 AM #
The clownpenis.fart joke was from Saturday Night Live and it was making fun of the fact that there were no domain names for a bank who took their time to build their precense on the web and by that time, it was the only domain name left.

RE: TLDs v/s sub-domains
Token User @ 5/27/2004 2:02:07 PM #
Why create a completely separate TLD for mobile devices? Would I want to go to palminfocenter.mobi? Doesn't make sense at all.

For better or for worse, if "www" as a subdomain has established itself this well ("it aint a website unless it is www.yourdomain.com"), why not push for a standard subdomain/prefix for mobile content - mobile.yourdomain.com, anybody?

I can understand the idea of having *.mobi or mobi.* for static content, but how many websites do you visit today that are static? ASP, JSP, PHP, etc., dominate content delivery. It is the webmasters that are getting lazy, people should detect the browser and code content to the browser and platform. Content lives in a database, content is formated and delivered via style sheet (or even plain generated code via a template).

Creating a new TLD is just plain lazy.


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Wait a minute.....

ozz @ 5/27/2004 12:49:37 AM #
....I thought Al Gore invented the internet! :-p
RE: Wait a minute.....
Bartman007 @ 5/27/2004 2:33:40 AM #
but G. Dubbya invented pants (SNL humor)

RE: Wait a minute.....
youngjm1 @ 5/27/2004 3:55:52 PM #
I was thinking the exact same thing.......


RE: Wait a minute.....
talos4 @ 5/30/2004 6:13:36 AM #
John Kerry actually voted for the Internet ....

.... after he voted against it ...


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Old News

Wollombi @ 5/27/2004 12:50:32 PM #
Is it lost on everyone that this news was 2 days old when it was posted here?

I don't often complain, but Ryan, you haven't "broken" a story since Ed was here. I think it's time to hire some help.

Just my opinion, for whatever that's worth.

Back on topic, I agree with Berners-Lee. There's no need for a new TLD. Standards should evolve to the point where it doesn't matter what your device is or what size screen it has.

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Stupid logic

ray00pal @ 5/27/2004 2:43:24 PM #
Why a new domain will limit anyone to use it? Maybe his problem is the desire to limit the use of ".mobi" to strictly to companies. Then, work on that problem, do not enlarge your own stupid logic.
Even so, there is NOTHING prevent a mobile device user to type a normal web address!

Mobile domain

panasher @ 5/27/2004 3:57:39 PM #
I agree with Tim Berners-Lee. There should be uniformity among Web sites. It should be up to the mobile device manufacturer or separate software makers to offer a way to format Web sites for particular mobile devices.

I find that Palm's proxy server renders just about all Web sites quite nicely for my Palm PDA. I just wish someone would come up with Palm OS compatible software to enable me to view and hear streaming video and audio on my Palm.

Be here now.
panasher

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