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This would be relevant

mikecane @ 7/15/2004 7:19:05 PM #
-- if there were actually palmOne WiFied devices! (I don't count the ancient TungC.)

RE: This would be relevant
RhinoSteve @ 7/15/2004 11:31:11 PM #
"Ancient Tungsten-C"???

You consider the best price-performance Palm OS device, not to mention the only WiFi device with the Universal Connector "ancient??" What the hell of a latte sipping, deep-in-credit-card-debit, digoarati lamsters you hang with?

If you haven't noticed, the T-C is one of the best consistently selling WiFi PDAs out there. Not to mention good throughput for a handheld and nice battery life. And the hell with you if you can't play games on it well, I have a life.

The T-C has honestly become the Rodney Dangerfield of PDAs. It is a very good product. You trendier-than-anyone-else condemn any product more than a year old as ancient.

The T-C is alive and well and the sales are damn good for a two year old design. This product has almost as much legs as some of the original 68K PDAs.

Go back to you lattes as you read Wired and Rolling Stone. The rest of us will profit from our purchases instead of being cool to a bunch of in-debt geeks that can't get a date.

RE: This would be relevant
Duku @ 7/16/2004 2:47:16 AM #
You pissed off i presume because either one of these;1)u owned palmOne, 2) u designed TC, 3) u own a TC and married to it.

Try selling your tc or leave it anywhere see if anyone would bother about it.



RE: This would be relevant
Winter_ @ 7/16/2004 5:48:24 AM #
The T-C is alive and well and the sales are damn good for a two year old design. This product has almost as much legs as some of the original 68K PDAs.

Hey, it's so old I thought it was (is?) a 68k device! :>

RE: This would be relevant
lamp @ 7/16/2004 10:37:22 AM #
I do find the T|C very popular with programmers... has a high geek factor but doesn't look as sleek as a T3. The T|C is also used in healthcare (hospitals set up with wifi)). I think one goal was to make the T|C popular on wireless college campuses but the device may be a tad expensive for college students.

"Old" as it is, I really like the T|C. It does its job exceedingly well. Excellent battery life, good wifi throughput, bright screen, 64mb memory. Although I would like to see a version without the keyboard now that Xerox lost its lawsuit over Grafitti One.



RE: This would be relevant
mikecane @ 7/16/2004 2:14:20 PM #
You're outnumbered, Rhino.

And it *is* fekkin ancient.

If p1 updates it, will you whine that such an update was "unnecessary"?

RE: This would be relevant
abosco @ 7/16/2004 3:57:15 PM #
>>...instead of being cool to a bunch of in-debt geeks that can't get a date.

I resent that. Well, not ME personally, but... yeah, I actually mean me. Wait, no I don't! I can get a date, I swear!

The T|C is old news. The idea was good, even though it had a keyboard and square screen, the implementation was very good with 400 MHz, 64MB, and Wifi. But the lack of any kind of Bluetooth connectivity, as well as mono audio sort of kill it as a high-end PDA for anybody looking to use their Palm for play in addition to work. But hey, if you're surrounded with Wifi access points in NYC and don't need Bluetooth and already own an iPod 40GB, then it's perfect.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: This would be relevant
RhinoSteve @ 7/16/2004 10:38:55 PM #
Outnumber by geeks? Like I care!

While I post here, it is mostly for amusement and a part of my research into what the fringe of fanatic users that spend leasure time on Palm and PDA stuff consider. It is like going to a hot rod meet and thinking this is the public that buys from a dealership showroom.

Ok, so I don't get invited to the geek parties and get to watch untranslated anime as you take turns playing Quake with mods of naked women shooting guns. Yes, that was a sad party and I got out of there after I realized a few things.

You hit it right about healthcare and other enterprises that have money. You never make the big time just selling to college students (Can't wait to hear the flames on that one.)

To this day, I whip out a TC and it turns heads. In fact a guy with an Axim was impressed I had a real keyboard on it. This design has the best market endurance in the market and in fact has wonderful data throughput for a handheld.

While you feature creepers haven't realized it yet, PDA hardware is starting to level off in features. Price / performance now means a lot. The Axim is turning to the best "bad but educational first experience" for novice users since the iPaq. The iPaq was got the professional market knowing about PDAs and looking for something better after they got tired of the long term instability. The Axim is doing the same thing for the consumer crowd.

And to think of it, Palm doesn't have to pay one cent for this incompetance.

RE: This would be relevant
abosco @ 7/16/2004 11:32:08 PM #
>>To this day, I whip out a TC and it turns heads. In fact a guy with an Axim was impressed I had a real keyboard on it. This design has the best market endurance in the market and in fact has wonderful data throughput for a handheld.

If you want to turn heads, get rid of the T|C and buy an NX. That sucker turns more heads than a hooker pulling double duty. Whoa, did I just say that? Point is, the T|C is old news. It has a few major flaws that prevents it from being top-notch, just like every other PalmOne model.

..what's with me tonight?

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: This would be relevant
vesther @ 7/17/2004 3:36:46 PM #
[i]"Old" as it is, I really like the T|C. It does its job exceedingly well. Excellent battery life, good wifi throughput, bright screen, 64mb memory. Although I would like to see a version without the keyboard now that Xerox lost its lawsuit over Grafitti One.[/i]

Don't lose the keyboard on the next Tungsten C (hence Tungsten W3, as Tungsten C was originally gonna be called the Tungsten W2), as I can't afford to do well with Graffiti 2 nor Graffiti 1, as I have never got along with Graffiti 1 whatsoever, even before my implementation towards Graffiti 2. The Keyboard is something that I would prefer over Virtual Graffiti/Graffiti.

Intel PXA27X, Motorola's ARM Processor, or Texas Instruments OMAP? Pick one Palm Enthusiasts, the choice should be yours. When handheld makers make you choose the ARM Processor, you win.

RE: This would be relevant
mikecane @ 7/19/2004 5:51:00 PM #
>>>While I post here, it is mostly for amusement and a part of my research into what the fringe of fanatic users that spend leasure time on Palm and PDA stuff consider. It is like going to a hot rod meet and thinking this is the public that buys from a dealership showroom.

Wow, should we be honored? Or continue on with our disgust?

RE: This would be relevant
mikecane @ 7/19/2004 5:53:16 PM #
And if you *really* want fanatic...

http://www.engadget.com/entry/4071977118819522/

Definitely for Wi-Fi Users....

vesther @ 7/17/2004 3:31:08 PM #
Recommended on a Sony UX50, PalmOne Tungsten C, Sony TH55, Sony TJ37, and even a Sony TJ27.

The Tungsten C is NOT ancient--the handheld is still breathing heavy--even though the technology seems ancient. The Tungsten C was meant to be a machine of productivity--PalmOne wanted to make sure that they had a "Shin" successor to the i705 and that they can support that successor for a long time. PalmOne tried to do this with the Tungsten W--the AT&T Service and Palm OS 4.1.2 crippled the Tungsten W severely. The Tungsten C was released with Wi-Fi in mind (Alas, it was supposed to be called the Tungsten W2 originally). I personally like the Tungsten C best mainly because to me, it's easy to use and with a thumbboard that I can persevere to.

I'm sorry Mike, but the Tungsten C is NOT ancient--Even with the Universal Connector, Mono Handicap, and some "old" technology, and with the $100 Price Drop, the Tungsten C still remains as a machine to get, even without Bluetooth. IMO one day, Bluetooth will replace the IR Port, so there is a chance that Bluetooth will make its way towards the PalmOne Tungsten W3 one day...but keep in mind that IR is ancient, and Bluetooth is not, so Bluetooth is likely to supercede IR.

Intel PXA27X, Motorola's ARM Processor, or Texas Instruments OMAP? Pick one Palm Enthusiasts, the choice should be yours. When handheld makers make you choose the ARM Processor, you win.

RE: Definitely for Wi-Fi Users....
RhinoSteve @ 7/17/2004 5:13:14 PM #
Well said Vetster. The TC is not dead by any means. It is only dead to a market segment that really doesn't matter much -- the cultists. If I want to make someone impressed, I'll cruse with my Hemicuda.

PDAs are not for work and if you even consider using it as a status symbol, you just cut yourself out of 82% of the social scene.

-- Passive Agressive types need not apply.
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