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PalmSource today welcomed the third Palm Powered smartphone from GSPDA, the Xplore M28. Alpha Tech Mobile Sdn Bhd is distributing the Palm Powered Xplore M28 smartphone in Malaysia. The Xplore M28 smartphone is now also available to wireless customers in China, Hong Kong and Macau and Thailand.
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Good to Hear!

GearHead @ 11/22/2004 12:37:11 PM #
It's good to hear, some people at least trying to introduce something innovative with Palm OS. May be PalmOne will learn some hardware cues from these guys and bring some good products to compete in U.S. market.

Let's keep our fingers crossed!

Cheers!!!!!!!!

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RE: Good to Hear!
Wolfgard @ 11/22/2004 1:02:25 PM #
Wow! It's basically what I'm looking for! Jog dial, small form factor, virtual graffiti, keypad, pda/phone combo, VGA camera, no antenna! Sounds better that the Treo 650!

Only things I would be concerned with are the battery life and its build construction. Too bad I just bought my TH55 and a Nokia 3660 this year...

pen & paper -> m515 -> Zire72 -> TH55

RE: Good to Hear!
Texonite @ 11/22/2004 3:47:41 PM #
But they're calling that huge button the "jog dial". So that's not the same what was on old Sony devices.
However, it has buttons + - on the left side of the case.

http://www.hkpug.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=22&page=1

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RE: Good to Hear!
LiveFaith @ 11/22/2004 4:14:02 PM #
Besides the Treos, this only the 2nd smartfone to date using Garnet, correct? Pretty decent features.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's with 176x220 rez? What are the extra "16" pixels used for on the width? This is not the same aspect ratio as an HVGA screen. "Virtual grafitti" area only increases screen by 25% (44 of 176 pixels) according to these #s. It seems that all Palm OS apps run only as square screen while some proprietary fone functions can access the extra. This is the way the original Samsung's did it. What a waste of real estate.

Now, what has puzzled me for years with hardware designers is why the screen real estate as a ratio of frontal area is not maximized. The Tungsten T3 used a slider, the S-E P900 uses a flip away keypad, the TH55 did this pretty well for a tablet and the iPaq 19xx & 41xx designs (outsourced ironically) probably had not only an elegant form factor, but also very little wasted frontal area.

This is the first thing I look for in new designs. Why not wring every ounce of frontal area possible for use as screen real estate? Why waste all that area around the screen? Have you noticed how little wasted space is along the edges of a Treo 6xx?

Why do I bring this up? Because maximum screen real estate is a huge factor in the usefulness of a PDA. Conversely, minimum form factor is the other huge factor in PDAs. It seems to me that the "best world" would be to have a small pocketable form factor coupled with a huge screen.

I realize that several obstacles make this more difficult than I am making it sound. You have buttons, d-pads, front speakers, thickness, power requirements of large screens, screen cost and even screen hardware which extends outward. Nonetheless, this GSPDA reminds me of the now defunct HP Jornadas with all that "wasted" size beside & below the screen. That fone has enough space down there to put a Treo-like keyboard.

Anyway, this whole design issue reminds me of how American car companies kept designing long & narrow cars with short wheelbases, long after some Japanese and Euro makers began to "stretch the wheels to the corners". The simple physics of wider tracks & longer wheelbases allowed smaller cars to have better handling and better ride at basically no mfctr cost. Now take a look at the new Ford 500 sedan, many Chryslers etc. They've finally began to do the obvious and viola ... people love it!

Hopefully, one of the Palm OS liscensees will seize this opportunity to pick up load$ of award$ simply by superior design. The link below is the point made (albeit ugly) on a Zire 71.

http://churchoflivingfaith.com/images/71vg.jpg


Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

RE: Good to Hear!
Strider_mt2k @ 11/22/2004 4:58:22 PM #
That IS a cool looking piece.



RE: Good to Hear!
Calroth @ 11/22/2004 5:39:07 PM #
I'm not sure how their version of Palm OS handles it, but I believe that a 176x220 LCD screen is "standard" in manufacturing terms, most (non-Palm) phones have a screen of this size, so it's cheaper to use that than to order a custom 160x200 screen (or whatever).
RE: Good to Hear!
statik @ 11/22/2004 5:50:59 PM #
I remember reading that it is supported as well. If I remember correctly, the OS cheats and blanks out 8 pixels on each side of the screen to make it into 160*220.

RE: Good to Hear!
LiveFaith @ 11/23/2004 1:48:28 PM #
The new picture on the story makes more sense. At first it looked like the keypad was screen only. Didn't see the slider.

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Good to Hear!
LiveFaith @ 11/23/2004 1:50:49 PM #
This picture gives a better clue to screen usage, phone functions on screen and GSPDA menu bar:

http://www.brighthand.com/images/GSPDA_M28_L.jpg

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

Funny huh?
chicken_tandoori @ 11/24/2004 4:29:44 PM #
>> ... create new business opportunities for Palm OS software developers in the Asian wireless market," said David Nagel, president and chief executive officer of PalmSource.

Hmm... doesn't seem true at all. In Asian countries like Malaysia, piracy is so rampant that no one will buy software for Palm OS. Here the PDA/phone sellers even provide what they call it "free software - for life" to all buyers of PDA/phones. What it means is that you can get ANY software at all - cracked, full version from the place you bought your PDA/phone - for life. Just tell them which software you want, come back tomorrow and you'll have it for free... That's how it works here. Works for ringtones and logos too..

RE: Good to Hear!
A9700rO @ 11/24/2004 7:07:16 PM #
If it isn't 320x320+ ... I'm definately not falling for this one... Infact, I'd rather wait it out untill I see Palm OS Cobalt....

Clie-SJ22>>Tungsten | E >>> Clie-NX60>>Zire 72

And less than US$280

Rome @ 11/22/2004 6:08:11 PM #
At the current exchange rate, this phone goes for less than US$280. Wow, that's a lot of phone for the $$$. I wonder if any carrier subsidy is involved.

RE: And less than US$280
asiayeah @ 11/22/2004 7:33:02 PM #
No, it's not 'RMB', but 'RM'. If the 'RM' currency is indeed 'Malaysian Ringgit', the US$ is ~600!

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=2288&from=MYR&to=USD&submit=Convert

Tony Cheung

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With great power comes great responsiblity.

RE: And less than US$280
Rome @ 11/22/2004 8:02:37 PM #
My bad, I thought it was RMB as you had suggested. Oh, well, maybe in a couple of years...

Here is another Palm Smart Phone

batmon @ 11/22/2004 7:17:00 PM #
http://buy.yahoo.com.tw/gdsale/gdsale.asp?gdid=25900

This one has been out for long time. NT9450 is about US $285. It says 100 hours stand by.

RE: Here is another Palm Smart Phone
shin08 @ 11/23/2004 10:37:58 AM #
just got the exact retail price in HongKong. It's HKD$3880, which is around US$497. Really love the size of the phone (people often think smartphones = big phones), really hate lack of bluetooth, for any phones among this price range, they all have BT support.



If these Palm OS Smartphone Manufacturers...

vesther @ 11/23/2004 12:32:24 AM #
...can get these Smartphones licensed into the US, then the Palm-Powered community will then be happier with more variety on the Smartphones.

Now all that's left to fill the Palm-Smartphone gap is to convince Nextel that a Palm-Powered iDEN Smartphone will bring new life to Nextel's Phone lineup.

I pledge to the Palm-Powered community that I will seek to make a better handheld through research one day!!!

RE: If these Palm OS Smartphone Manufacturers...
RhinoSteve @ 11/23/2004 4:07:36 PM #
If this does well in Asia, then it is just a matter of time that a carrier in the States take this on its line. The Jeff and his Treo needs more kick-in-the-pants competition and less hero worshipping.
RE: If these Palm OS Smartphone Manufacturers...
A9700rO @ 11/24/2004 7:13:26 PM #
Is it just me? Or are Palm powered licencees focusing on the Asian market rather than the U. S. ? Just look at Sony for example, they got themselves out of the U. S. Market, and they released the new Clie VZ90 not too long ago...

Clie-SJ22>>Tungsten | E >>> Clie-NX60>>Zire 72
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