Comments on: Treo 800w USB and Battery Charging Update
The update download and detail pages can be found here. The process involves a installing and running the update file and a soft reset. It can be installed over the air by visiting palm.com/800wusbota directly on your device.
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RE: 2nd update for 800w already?
After enduring years and years of Palm's "we may or may get around to fixing it someday maybe if we feel like it and it's profitable for us" attitude, it's refreshing to see them acting as though they want their products to function even AFTER they have our money.
There are companies like IBM that keep fixing bugs and improving functionality for their Thinkpads for years and years after the machines are no longer sold, regardless if they will not be able to make a direct profit off the end user for the firmware fixes or drivers or software or documentation. Years later, though there are multitudes of competitors selling cheaper systems with "better" specifications - people still keep buying Thinkpads because they are well designed and IBM/Lenovo doesn't abandon their customers - even after the warranty is a distant memory.
Palm could learn a few tricks from the Thinkpad mentality and rise back - example: release the API for "my location" on Google Maps, release a firmware fix that has CURRENT application versions included, etc. When $600.00 can buy an entire laptop, Palm has been blatantly foolish to treat their Treo customers as lousy as they have over the years.
Paying my annual PDA update tax to Palm since 1997.
RE: 2nd update for 800w already?
Remember, that first patch brought one feature up to what Palm had in their sales literature (and probably what they sold to Sprint); the GPS problem is another feature that was similarly marketed and not delivered - since Sprint ==IS== the customer here, that customer has every right to be royally POed - and they hold the bags of money...
RE: 2nd update for 800w already?
Fortunately, Palm's been improving ever since, albeit very slowly. If you jettison all of the "old" Palm products and proceed forward with the Centro, 800w and Treo Pro, you have a pretty solid lineup that's stable (if mostly unspectacular).
Now, that said, SV is definitely on the money in regards to the carriers making Palm fix all of these issues ASAP. That's one thing we (the end users) have in our favor. Ever since the 700p fiasco, you can bet the carriers are going to be VERY hesitant to take any kind of pluge with Palm without having absolute certainty any issues that come up with be speedily addressed. That'd make me very nervous if I were a potential unlocked Treo Pro customer,by the way. No carrier suppport/backing means Palm can be quite lax as far as releasing any updates (flagship device or not).
I recently dug out an old Matrix Millennium PCI video card from 1996. A fantastic card in its day, sure, but totally stone-age tech nowadays. However, Matrox supported that card until 2002 (Win XP) and it's always had a spot on my workbench as a spare/backup/test card due to the guaranteed availability of a driver for any flavor of Windows. That's the kind of small but still memorable support you like to see but is seldom practiced nowadays (certainly not by Palm).
Seeing as the TX, E2, Z22, and many other Palm handhelds never received any kind of major updates, the involvement & invluence of the carriers is definitely a good thing as far as keeping Palm "honest".
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: 2nd update for 800w already? **Conspiracy theory**
Now-WAY-OT: RE: 2nd update for 800w already?
> 1996. A fantastic card in its day, sure, but totally stone-age tech
> nowadays. However, Matrox supported that card until 2002 (Win XP) and
> it's always had a spot on my workbench as a spare/backup/test card due
> to the guaranteed availability of a driver for any flavor of Windows...
Is that right!? I happen to have one of those cards (and a Mystique, too, I think). Now I know what card will be MY backup workbench test unit!
Thanks!
[I =think= that guy's somewhere "downstairs" installed in an old Pentium box right now. Not really sure...]
One more OT bit: 2nd update for 800w already?
The Mystique is nearly identical to the older Millennium but it uses slower ram (SGRAM vs. WRAM IIRC), has a slightly lesser clocked RAMDAC, and adds a few extra 3d functions. For solid "workbench" cards, I personally rotate between the Millennium, a Radeon 7000 PCI and an ancient S3 Virge DX as needed and can recommend any of them.
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/drivers/latest/
For old OSes:
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/drivers/latest/previous/
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RE: 2nd update for 800w already?
Pat Horne
RE: 2nd update for 800w already?
> with the abiility to write, test, and deploy a patch...
There is no evidence to that effect and a smidgen of evidence - namely words out of Colligan's and Brown's mouths - that suggest that ability is outsourced.
Attention Mike Cane (OT)
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/1000h.htm
The bar is geting raised each month with these netbooks!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
just wait until you see the Fa..Fa..Fa..Fooleo II!!!
i hear they're going to DOUBLE the RAM from 256MB to 512MB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
look out world!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/fondle-asus-eeepc-1000-jr/
And I knew 160GB HDs were coming weeks ago.
I expect some manufacturers will build units waaay outside the low-end MS XP spec and slap Linux on them which people can then strip off for XP or, better yet, Mac OS X. 4GB/250GB anyone?
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
My time is limited. 'Tis easier for all of us to meet at the ol' PIC stomping grounds.
Well, the 945GSE chipset is currently limited (artficially?) to 2gb on all of these netbooks. And until 2gb SODIMM modules come wwaaaaayyyy down in price, 2gb is gonna be as good as it gets for the time being.
I just stuck a 200gb 7200rpm Hitachi HD into my 1000H, by the way. YEEHAW! That gives it a huge kick in the seat of the pants. I may still switch it out for a 5400rpm drive for the long-haul...but for right now I wanted to see if the 7200rpm drive could alleviate the Atom CPU's deficiencies in day to day Windows usage (it does, for the most part).
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
You are malfunctioning, citizen! Report immediately to the termination chamber.
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/the-police-state-has-an-anthem/
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
Checkmate. U r now pWned.
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
Here's another one, for VP:
http://tinyurl.com/6ka45h
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
i must say, i think palin's doing a great job! her speech is great and the people love her! she is winning lots of new votes for us. this might have been a brilliant pick after all. those filthy liberals are in big trouble!
go get 'em, barracuda!!!!!!!!!
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
;-)
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RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
she is winning lots of new votes for us
How dare you assume that Palm users lean to the right... especially with Palm targeting young, fabulous, and broke hipsters with the Centro.
Anyway, the office of the Vice President is "not worth a pitcher of warm spit" - John Garner
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
Carnivore is a system implemented by the Federal Bureau of Investigation that is analogous to wiretapping, except in this case, e-mail and other communications are being tapped instead of telephone conversations. Carnivore is a customizable packet sniffer that can monitor all of a target user's Internet traffic. It is a form of policeware. Carnivore was implemented during the Clinton administration with the approval of Attorney General Janet Reno. U.S. government officials have neither confirmed nor denied much about the physical or logical workings of Carnivore, but there are some facts that are generally agreed upon.
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
There is DCS1000, however, renamed to remove all the politically-incorrect nasty connotations of "carnivore".
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
The last known classic PDA user.
I've recently upgraded from a PLAM TX to a Newton MP2000!
http://newtonpda.googlepages.com
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
The last known classic PDA user.
I've recently upgraded from a PLAM TX to a Newton MP2000!
http://newtonpda.googlepages.com
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
No no no!
A VP who has taught her children to groom like moose!
[er...meece? Mooses? uh...]
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
it figures that the liberal/socialist crowd would ridicule the love of a 5 year old for her little baby brother.
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
kennedy, clinton, mcgreevey, spitzer, edwards et al are the liberal family role models.
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
No, not itself, but another moose.
http://www.maniacworld.com/twin-baby-moose-in-sprinkler.html
> ...ridicule the love of a 5 year old for her little baby brother
Everything at the convention was scripted - the Me-Too Media says so.
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_en_ot/cvn_gop_fashion
doesn't lick her children's hair.
[er...does she HAVE children?]
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
Leave it to never-will-be-married sperm-deficient Rightist scoundrels to hide behind children.
RE: Attention Mike Cane (OT)
you voted for nader. you are on the lunatic fringe of society. please go out and protest in the streets with the rest of the malcontents. i look forward to seeing your macing, beat down, and arrest on youtube.
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2nd update for 800w already?