Comments on: Palm Targets Additional Developers with Cease & Desist Letters
3GX Software, the developer behind of PalmRevolt was given a letter demanding that they rename their product. As such, PalmRevolt is now pRevolt.
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RE: Given Palm's current market
>>Centro = Owners are drooling imbeciles
I love gross generalizations as much as the next guy... but I could go either way between these two phones, and not as harshly.
IMO "Brainy" folk should have a phone that has a replaceable battery and a way to backup locally for data preservation, and probably a hardware keyboard for reliable data input.
They would also probably prefer something designed for use beyond the early-teenager years. With heft and keys to match fingers of post-pubescence.
Paying my annual PDA update tax to Palm since 1997.
RE: Given Palm's current market
>>Centro = Owners are drooling imbeciles
This is really is stupid. I see the Iphone as a toy and a Centro as a productive tool. What my Centro does an iphone cant do. Yeah I cant watch movies too well and the net browsing is not so hot. But as a PDA I think its the best thing ever, you still cant beat Palm os if you have a busy schedule or you need to input/retrieve data fast.
pilot 5000 >Palm V > m505 >Tungsten T >A bad win mo 5 pda >Clie Peg ux50 > Tungsten t3 >Treo 680 >Centro
RE: Given Palm's current market
LOL!!!
Eight of them paid $1000 for a useless software. If Apple hadn't removed the software I am sure more of them will be throwing money down the drain.
More money than sense is more like it...
RE: Given Palm's current market
Though $1000 might seem like a lot to you and me (might!?) there are many many people in this world to whom $1000 is less than pocket change.
[and it's appropriate at this time to note that it is not worth Bill Gates' time to bend down and pick up a $100 bill should he spy it on the ground...]
huh?
...Of course we wouldn't, Palm - many of these third party applications were developed in the last few years, nearly all of yours were built prior to 1997, then speckled with color in about 1999. AND - they actually get maintained, improved and updated - certainly NOT your style!
I can understand Palm wants to protect their trademark - after all it's probably the largest investment they've made in the past few years ($30 million dollars http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/7864/palmone-acquires-rights-to-palm-brand-name/)?!? Judging from what's actually been released, they certainly don't seem to have spent much on R&D.
But WTF is with the lame excuse that their "customers may confuse those applications for applications developed by Palm Inc. themselves"? We may be stupid enough to keep buying your products despite the fact they are mainly bugfixes nowadays - but exactly what "applications" have you "developed" for us lately, "Palm, Incorporated"?
Paying my annual PDA update tax to Palm since 1997.
RE: huh?
They are really losing it big time in the PR department (but making their lawyers happy and rich) wasting their time and effort on battling the third party developers for having the name. Pretty soon, they'll start sending out C&D letters to all the blogs and websites with the Palm name. Oops, I guess I gave them an idea. Maybe I should start registering something else in preparation.
This is unbelievably ridiculous.
http://palmdiscovery.net
RE: huh?
And it doesn't mean they lose them to Joe Blow Developer, they lose them to Nasty Trademark-and-Patent-ONLY company who wants to make a buck off them.
Palm is doing the "right" thing, IMHO, and, also IMHO, should have done it a LOT earlier than now.
Tough to close the barn door after the cows have escaped
I believe they'll do more damage to their public image than they will enhance their 'goodwill,' but I have never been one to count on an IP lawyer to get that right.
Harold
RE: Tough to close the barn door after the cows have escaped
RE: Tough to close the barn door after the cows have escaped
But, as far as the general smartfone or PDA (remember those?) customer, this means nothing. Maybe in a slight way helps Palm "purify" their brand. But, more likely the fact that all those "PalmXXXXX" websites and app outlets are gone makes the name less recognizable.
Bottom line, they are trying to save the brand from copyright squatters. Time will tell if it works.
Pat Horne
RE: PlmInfoCenter here we come!
The last known classic PDA user.
I've recently upgraded from a Palm TX to a Newton MP2000!
http://newtonpda.googlepages.com
RE: PlmInfoCenter here we come!
The Plam Pliot , Plam Pliot Porfessional, Plam Tero, Plam Floeo, Plam Cnetro.
PlamIfnoCneter.com
They should be happy.
On another level, this makes about as much sense as Apple sueing somebody over "Newton Revolt." One platform is dead and the other is dying. Seems like misspent resources, but Palm knows how to misspend resources better than anybody.
Finally, if Palm legal wanted to put themselves to good use they would bring suit against Palm themselves and sue for a new Palm (OS) product in FY08.
RE: They should be happy.
it's like the old saying, "don't bitch/worry that people are calling. start worrying when people STOP calling."
RE: They should be happy.
Competition for Windows Mobile that is.
The end result is turning friends into enemies.
First they came
First they came for the Developers, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Developer. Then they came for the News Sites, and I did not speak out - because I was not a News Site. Then they came for the Bloggers, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Blogger. Then they came for Mike Cane - and I said, "please, take him."
RE: First they came
Quote: Gekko
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/quote-gekko/
RE: First they came
"I was quoted by Mike Cane" - whisper that in a chick's ear and watch her melt. Better put some paper towels on the floor first.
RE: First they came
I've included your picture in this one.
The High Point Of His Life
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/the-high-point-of-his-life/
RE: First they came
I don't carry ads. But I hear tell that WordPress inserts them for Google Juice (I never see no stinkin' ads). Email WordPress for your cut. You're now the #1 post on my blog!
RE: First they came
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/max-barry-syrup/
So now we r h8turs
Yeah, except when we *loved* them.
Which was when they were doing things *right*.
And who the eff is using a *WinMob* device, anyway? Don't wave that pathetic Palm logo at me.
RE: So now we r h8turs
The first part: We live in reality.
The second part: Surely the next device won't suck as bad as the one before.
Funny how people tired of putting up with Plam's crap are now considered the ones not sane.
The last known classic PDA user.
I've recently upgraded from a PLAM TX to a Newton MP2000!
http://newtonpda.googlepages.com
RE: So now we r h8turs
Especially by someone who isn't using THE PLAM OS!
RE: So now we r h8turs
Thank you for sharing your personality with us, Gekko.
Palm threatens the few remaining developers?
After everything these bright developers did for this god forsaken fan base backstabbing company, Palm actually now has the face to threaten them with totally insignificant issues?!
Once my Treo 680 dies that's it for me; no more Palm products.
RE: Palm threatens the few remaining developers?
Pat Horne
Palm paving the way
Palm is only S&D'ing sites that use it's name to sell their software.
Ether through the name of the site or the name of the program.
They are paving the way for their own iTunes style App store.
This is why PIC and Palm Addicts have not been targeted and possibly why PalmGear merged with PocketGear.
If they are hosting the server they would have to have early warning to prepare.
It all fits with Alan G's "mobile me 2" service.
Att Palm:
I am one of many T|X owners who would happily be Beta testers for Nova.
We could give you valuable feedback without ever having to go threw the networks for approval.
RE: Palm paving the way
Last I checked, PalmInfocenter does have software store to purchase apps: http://software.palminfocenter.com
Palm develops applications???
An insider source of mine tells me that Palm is trying to reclaim their name and will apparently be sending out more legal notices to software containing their trademarked name brands of Palm, Treo, Centro, as they believe customers may confuse those applications for applications developed by Palm Inc. themselves.
ROTFLMAO! I'd challenge the guys sending these letters out to name an application Palm has developed in the last 10 years. Maybe that's where the confusion is.
RE: Palm develops applications???
Then if Plam winds up calling their new OS *that*, THEY can all gang up and sue the sh&t out of Plam.
BTW, I think from now on, we should type "Plam" instead.
RE: Palm develops applications???
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: PALM is dead. Long live PLAM!
http://palmdiscovery.com
RE: PALM is dead. Long live PLAM!
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Given Palm's current market
... given the market sucking on that Centro teat, yeah, this probably makes sense.
I mean, if these people were *smart* to begin with, they'd have iPhones.
Let's review.
iPhone = Owners with brains
Centro = Owners are drooling imbeciles