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A music and software enthusiast has composed and released a full length music composition using only his Palm OS PDA. The artist used only his palmOne Tungsten T to create the music and art for the free album.
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palmdoc88 @ 1/25/2005 4:42:56 PM # Q
It sounds wonderful. Now if only the web page works!!!

T3 user
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Buzman @ 1/26/2005 4:52:46 AM # Q
Its vice versa for me: the website works, but the Ogg files I've downloaded are dead. Strange...


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Zulu @ 1/26/2005 6:07:21 AM # Q
May be you have old version of OGG-player?
Try this:

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Zulu @ 1/26/2005 6:22:32 PM # Q
There was problems with the server and ogg-files. Now all is ok: all tracks are in MP3 format.

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Konstantin @ 1/27/2005 3:03:37 AM # Q
Funny thing about russian people, there are far more creative people than consumers. Actualy russian crowd was never raised as a consumer folk. Hense too much creativity and little acceptance. Another funny thing that comes out of the living habitat of russians, the homes (apartments) are small, so if one creative person wanted to bring his visions into reality it needed to be either small sized or very versatile and foldable, so you could fold it up and stuff it for the winter (or for the summer if that is the case) in an unobtusive way.
Zulu makes a perfect example and shows a nice creativity boost. Great job, nice music. I am enjoying your tunes alot.


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Altema @ 1/28/2005 4:45:24 PM # Q
I noticed the switch to MP3 format right after downloading the Ogg files (hope I did not hammer the site too hard with the downloads!).

Alex, I enjoyed the music, the artwork, and appreciate your creativity... a job well done.

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No offense but...

Strider_mt2k @ 1/25/2005 6:16:02 PM # Q
Couldn't you do the same thing with a cassette recorder?

I fully understand the coolness and hook that comes with saying you've recorded an album on your Palm, but how is it any different?

I want to be clear that I'm merely curious and not looking to rip anyone's project to shreds.

-We've got folks for that here already...

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Captain Hair @ 1/26/2005 12:05:05 AM # Q
You can't make album art on a tape recorder, nor can you [i]easily[/i] take audio off the tape and onto your computer.

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."
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Zulu @ 1/26/2005 1:37:41 AM # Q
Cassete recorder? hm... i think, you just not understand main idea :) It's easy: "Warm Place" not recorded on Palm - it is COMPOSED entirely on Palm with a program called PsyTexx (my MOD-tracker for PalmOS-based devices)

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icy jamie @ 1/26/2005 5:11:53 AM # Q
For God's sake, give the man some credit... He's done a fine job proving that great creative things can be done with "a" pda.

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Strider_mt2k @ 1/26/2005 9:36:29 AM # Q
Thanks, Zulu I didn't understand, you're right.

Icy Jamie, I think I was pretty clear about merely being curious and not ripping the effort.
If you or the artist has problems with scrutiny by the dullard masses such as myself who simply ask for some guidance, then I suggest steering clear of the critics entirely.

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icy jamie @ 1/27/2005 2:23:49 AM # Q
What can I say? I'm sorry, it was indeed a question from a technological point of view, not an artistic. I MUST teach myself to read the last but one line also...¨
Point taken.
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icy jamie @ 1/27/2005 2:26:32 AM # Q
Now the sorry's out... I also have a technology-oriented question :-)... Are there any midi/hardware/software solutions that could be used by the universal connector (or the sdio connector)?
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Strider_mt2k @ 1/27/2005 11:25:27 AM # Q
(I came down a little hard too, sorry.) :)

I think the reason P1 said it was changing the UC to it's current connector was specifically to add audio capabiltiy.

I'm not sure SDIO has "what it takes" to be able to do audio. Hopefully someone else can shed some light on that subject?

Perhaps a Sony Clie?
I know they make a cradle that will allow my TH55 to play through IT'S built-in stereo speakers. The TH55's voice recorder also produces .wav files that are easily manipulated.

I sing and do voice over stuff on occasion, and the voice recorder on my TH has been great for capturing bits of tunes (or whole ones)
I've even ping-ponged recordings from my TH to my cell phone's voice recorder, adding harmonies, but the result is extremely rough and not suitable for anything other than an audio "sketch" of sorts.

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bigjarom @ 1/26/2005 2:26:06 AM # Q
What software did he use?
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Zulu @ 1/26/2005 3:27:41 AM # Q
PsyTexx 1.8 for music and GrayPaint2 for gfx

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rasty @ 1/26/2005 5:34:37 AM # Q
The Mod Tracker unfortunately seems to be crashing my T3 big time.. anyone had some more luck in getting it to run?
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Zulu @ 1/26/2005 6:09:06 AM # Q
I think, that PsyTexx1.8 has some troubles with devices like T3 and T5. But PsyTexxII must works on any devices

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Warning of possible incompatibility with LauncherX

whitemiata @ 1/26/2005 10:20:32 AM # Q
I tried the music software twice on my Zire71. It killed LauncherX. required a hard-reset.

I even have my Z71 set up so that I can always run FileZ in an emergency, and tried to delete the psy** software. To no avail.

I suppose it could be an incompatibility with some other software I have but I thought I'd bring it up.

Thankfully I have BackupMan on my PDA backing the unit up every day.

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Now do that on a PPC

Tamog @ 1/26/2005 10:42:41 AM # Q
this definitely is a sign that the Palm OS handheld is widely supported in the music sector. Actually, there are lots of software programs for creating/editing tunes available for the Tungsten Series-too bad that the T3's mic sucks and that the T5 hasn't got any!
Just my 2 cents
Tam Hanna

Find out more about the Palm OS in my blog:
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Strider_mt2k @ 1/26/2005 11:33:20 AM # Q
Some select Sony Clies would be ideal for doing stuff like this.

The TH55 comes to mind, not only because I own one, but because it's audio recording and playback abilities ain't too bad.

RE: Now do that on a PPC
Altema @ 1/26/2005 1:35:49 PM # Q
Actually, a cool thing about POS is the ability to handle 16 audio tracks. I've never messed with more than 6 at the same time, and that was just to experiment. Having PocketTunes, RealOne, and MMPlayer going at the same time is downright weird!

I'm not familiar with the software used on this project, but thought it would be neat to have a 16 track virtual digital studio on your handheld. Now all you would need is a line in for acoustic stuff...

RE: Now do that on a PPC
Altema @ 1/26/2005 1:51:45 PM # Q
"too bad that the T3's mic sucks"

Actually, it just sucks for anything music related. I have to remind myself that it was built to record lectures and meeting notes. I've been tempted many times to hit the record button when the band is doing something new during practice, but held back by the fact that it will be 50% distortion. The problem is that the mic is too sensitive for most tasks... we need a way to adjust input trim for louder sound sources.

THAT being said, the extra sensitivity is great in some situations. I was investigating building noises once, and I let the recorder run while I was checking things out. The heating system had a pipe which was contacting a metal cover, and when the pipe moved due to thermal expansion it sounded like a little girl's voice saying "dad". Having the recorder on made sure that I did not miss anything while poking around in the basement alone :)

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Ba-gug @ 1/27/2005 10:13:28 AM # Q
Personally, I'm very impressed! I do use PC software like FL Studio 5.0 and Reason 3.0, but for tunes like this to come out of a Palm TT is very good.

"Hambug or Ba-gug, that's me.!"
RE: Now do that on a PPC
Tamog @ 1/31/2005 12:57:52 PM # Q
Trust me-my T3 even sucks at speech!
The Palm Tungsten T was much better...
Best regards
Tam Hanna

Find out more about the Palm OS in my blog:
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Crash warning

rasty @ 1/27/2005 4:58:01 PM # Q
Just tried PsyTexx2 and it works on my T3, playing the XM modules I've tested perfectly. Once I've tried to read a .MOD anyway, it corrupted the device's memory and had to perform a HARD reset.. so just be warned ;)

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Zulu @ 1/28/2005 2:11:50 AM # Q
sorry, but PsyTexxII can't load MODs at the moment. Only XM

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rasty @ 1/29/2005 5:35:51 AM # Q
Actually if I click on the MOD button in the LOAD menu, it will display MODs and try to load them... with the effect I've mentioned :(

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Zulu @ 1/29/2005 5:38:38 AM # Q
Are you trying to load MODs or XMs ?

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rasty @ 1/29/2005 12:38:01 PM # Q
I was trying to load a MOD as described above.. PsyTexx2 tried to load it but then the worst happened :(

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Zulu @ 1/29/2005 5:45:47 PM # Q
Please use PsyTexx1.8. Current PsyTexxII can't load MODs, sorry.

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No one here has heard of Bhaji's Loops or Microbe?

tuvor @ 1/28/2005 9:55:07 PM # Q
Both amazing music-creation applications for the Palm, and very sophisticated, too. If you're interested in making music at all, you must check it out. (Palm OS5 needed.)

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He's not the only one !

T3Twister @ 1/28/2005 10:31:26 PM # Q
Here is another "Palm Music album" (or rather EP :) made with a Clié TJ35 and Bhajis Loops.

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