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A listing for a new Chinese Palm OS Powered smartphone has been posted. The GSM Smartphone is due out for the Chinese market around June this year.
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I hope we get them soon...

vesther @ 4/20/2005 12:42:03 PM # Q
Well, I hope that Cingular will be making deals to get this phone onto US Shelves as well as other GSM carriers that are existent throughout the United States....

Geez, that phone looks like it's needed to be in the US Store shelves.

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Aaarrggh! The Chinese are evil teasers...
Masamune @ 4/20/2005 12:49:23 PM # Q
What with the GSPDA series, the Qool QDA and this baby, Palm OS smartphones could mount a serious change to that unholy child of a phone OS - Win Smartphone. Get them out WORLDWIDE, not just in Asia.

RE: I hope we get them soon...
wannitnow @ 4/20/2005 2:34:31 PM # Q
Don't think you are missing much. The qool feels and look like a flimsy plastic toy phone and those new GSPDA phones aren't actually here yet in Hong Kong!

RE: I hope we get them soon...
QDeath @ 4/25/2005 5:37:36 PM # Q
Anyone have a US release date?


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Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking

Gekko @ 4/20/2005 12:47:53 PM # Q
Also notably absent from the raft of press announcements were any relating to the appearance of devices running Cobalt. Eleven devices are said to be under development, but none of these are expected to ship until 2005.



RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
Masamune @ 4/20/2005 12:51:36 PM # Q
Gekko, was that a typo? Did you mean 2006?

I thought there was a rumour of a GSPDA phone shipping with Vapourware for Palm OS (sorry, Cobalt) towards the end of the year...

"coming, compelling, and many."
Gekko @ 4/20/2005 12:57:25 PM # Q
More About Cobalt

The primary focus of this week's PalmSource Developer Conference is to unveil Palm OS Cobalt to the world. Mr. Nagel called it "the most important piece of technology that we've ever created."

PalmSource re-wrote 80% of the Palm OS to create Cobalt. It brings to the operating system features it needs to remain competitive, including full multitasking ability, native ARM applications, and other high-end features.

An overview of the features of Palm OS Cobalt is available in this article, and one showing PalmSource's future plans for it is in this one.

The question on everyone's lips at the PalmSource Conference is when the first devices running Cobalt will be available. Mr. Nagel and the rest of the PalmSource executives who have spoken have declined to say anything about this, pointing out that this is really up to the licensees. Larry Slotnick, the company's Chief Product Officer, would only say that devices running Palm OS Cobalt are "coming, compelling, and many."

Mr. Nagel said he expects to see Cobalt running on a wide variety of devices, including ones with large, high-resolution screens like tablets and e-readers. He also mentioned the possibility of Cobalt-powered digital video players.

http://www.brighthand.com/article/PS04_Nagel_Keynote



RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
Gekko @ 4/20/2005 12:59:30 PM # Q

http://www.businessweek.com/1995/51/b345595.htm



RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
rkevwill @ 4/20/2005 2:00:51 PM # Q
The only comment I have, is the history of the Be team. They never have yet, come out with a commercially successful OS. They seem to have all these great ideas, but none of them ever seem to come to full fruition!

Time will tell, but I for one am not putting a lot of hope in what has up to now become, vaporware.

RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
Gekko @ 4/20/2005 2:11:21 PM # Q

"After all is said and done, a lot more will have been said than done."

"Small deeds done are better than great deeds planned." - Peter Marshall

"Talk doesn't cook rice." - Chinese Proverb



RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
Georg @ 4/20/2005 7:15:34 PM # Q
Hey Mr. Nagel, please note: The new German originated Pope is very consevative and a real hardliner! He will send everyone to hell who is not telling the trouth.....

Physicaly and psychcal retierement should be close at teh same time!!!! old German saying!

Sems to me that Mr nagel has passed some....

looking for a industrial stile PalmOS divice

RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
Timothy Rapson @ 4/20/2005 7:17:19 PM # Q
rkevwill is right.
I am still waiting for the Linux powered Samsung YOPY handheld. Still waiting. Nothing like the originally promised model ever reached full production. It was big, BIG news in .... 1999 or so. As far as I'm concerned there are not PDA breakthrough models until I can buy them by the scores of thousands online or in an actuall store.
Now, predictable upgrades like the regular Palms or PPCs are worth looking for information on. I don't want to buy a Zire 72 two weeks before a much nicer Zire 73 is known to be arriving. But, Cobalt models promise for 6 months to a year away? Well, anyone see the news this week on the breakthrough Motorola MPX 220 this week?

RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
tompi @ 4/21/2005 8:12:22 AM # Q
Yopy has been shipping for a while, pretty much worldwide. They don't have in-store distribution in the US, but, hey, the US is so brand-name oriented that only MS and Palm have a chance.

Sharp's Zaurus has also been quite successful in Japan and is a nifty device. The same Linux-based PDA platform is now also shipping on Archos.

RE: Hey Nagel - The Clock is ticking
Timothy Rapson @ 4/21/2005 8:27:03 AM # Q
There is a new YOPY that has been shipping direct from the company to the US for some time. It is not the original straight YOPY, but some phonestyle wannabe with a silly keyboard. The original never really arrived.

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3 hour talk time is hardly enough even for a phone

wannitnow @ 4/20/2005 2:27:40 PM # Q
I am actually in Hong Kong and had a try on the Qool. The thing that got to me was the battery - only three hours of talk time. Trying to use it like a regular pda will just not work... It's gonna be the same with this one...

RE: 3 hour talk time is hardly enough even for a phone
AdamaDBrown @ 4/20/2005 5:58:34 PM # Q
Same old story: Size, battery, features. Pick two.

RE: 3 hour talk time is hardly enough even for a phone
Timothy Rapson @ 4/20/2005 7:22:59 PM # Q
And "so be sad, SO BE SAD, cause two out of three ain't good."
-apologies to Meatloaf-

RE: 3 hour talk time is hardly enough even for a phone
RhinoSteve @ 4/21/2005 12:38:07 AM # Q
This freaking rocks! The rest of you compaining can just stuff it. This will do well with normal people and not those that post here.
Are you....
Timothy Rapson @ 4/21/2005 8:29:30 AM # Q
RhinoSteve;
Are you calling us ABNORMAL? Have you ever seen Young Frankenstein? You mean our brains might wind up dancing in Peter Boyle's freakish tuxedoed body?
I can't believe you would say that about a bunch of nice ordinary guys like us.

RE: 3 hour talk time is hardly enough even for a phone
RhinoSteve @ 4/21/2005 3:29:55 PM # Q
Yes.
RE: 3 hour talk time is hardly enough even for a phone
AdamaDBrown @ 4/21/2005 3:53:59 PM # Q
Steve, you're clueless. This thing will never make it out of the Chinese market.

RE: 3 hour talk time is hardly enough even for a phone
RhinoSteve @ 4/21/2005 4:24:54 PM # Q
I guess the good think about this forum is you can back track the predictions and see who's hit rate is the best. I can easily see this hit the American market with a low end carrier like Metro PCS. Let's see where the cards fall my friend.
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Why doesn't this thing have Bluetooth?

AdamaDBrown @ 4/20/2005 7:07:52 PM # Q
If you're building an expensive smartphone, you'd think that Bluetooth would be high on the list of inclusions.

RE: Why doesn't this thing have Bluetooth?
Rome @ 4/20/2005 7:13:13 PM # Q
One question:

How do you know that the Chinese wants to pay extra for Bluetooth?



RE: Why doesn't this thing have Bluetooth?
AdamaDBrown @ 4/20/2005 7:35:51 PM # Q
I don't, but Bluetooth is a fairly logical addition to high-end phones, thanks to Bluetooth headsets.

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