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    Comments on: PalmSource Powered Up Award WinnersPalmSource honored four Palm OS developers with Powered Up Awards at its fifth annual U.S. PalmSource Mobile Summit & DevCon. The awards recognize four of the most innovative Palm OS applications from among the 400,000 Palm OS developers and showcases industry-leading mobile Palm OS applications that utilize the advanced features of Palm Powered smartphones and mobile devices.
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The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. PIC is not responsible for them in any way. login or register for free in order to post comments.  TCPMP?legodude522 @ 5/25/2005 11:28:43 PM #
Where is TCPMP? I voted 4 times and so did lots of others at Tapland.  RE: TCPMP?The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/25/2005 11:37:18 PM #
Where is TCPMP? I voted 4 times and so did lots of others at Tapland. So that means The Core got a whopping 20 votes from all you Tapwave freaks. These awards are a sham. Most of the winners are from companies that advertise heavily on the PDA app sales sites. Last I checked, Picard was giving away The Core for free.
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Maybe because TCPMP is GPL... I am not sure about this but the Codecs are a port from some other software, right? Contest rules: But TCPMP does meet those requirements... Or maybe because Blogs are hot these days. Eventhough TCPMP saves a lot of multimedia users from jumping ship to Windows Mobile. TCPMP may not be a winner at PalmSource PowerUP Awards but in the hearts of many a Palm users, He (Gabor Kovacs/Picard) is...Kudos to all who help and develop TCPMP. Thanks!!! RE: TCPMP?
I'm sure theres a lot of criterion and luck involved .. theres a pile of solid developers who deserve a lot of credit, from those like CESD who bust their rear to help people to PDAMill who've revitalized the gaming market to Picard for TCPMP who're waving the freedom flag and have a large overnight cult following; I think I was going to get it for Shadow Plan a couple years back, but since I wasn't going to PalmSourceDev.. no go. Only folks who attend can get the award, since PS want it to be a good advertising event for the developer involved, which is nice. Theres also a little of the Oscars-approach in it I think as well -- an organization will got some weighting simply because they've done their time and worked hard and never won anythign, so deserve some recognition. Astraware are great fellows who deserve a lot of credit, and are also helping developers out (dirty cheap audio engine, PDAOffers hosting for free, etc etc), but I'm sure even they were sick of seeing Bejewelled sweep every year :) jeff RE: TCPMP?
The Core Pocket Media Player is what it stands for it is a free movie player fount here http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/ I have been using ever since finding out about it and it is the best movie player out there and it's free! Tungsten T3 + T610 RE: TCPMP?
The Core Pocket Media Player.
A lot of people have switched over and i expect that the new WMV codec in MMplayer is going to be buggy, have A/V issues, and cost $30 to the product. RE: TCPMP?
SplashBlog would also be the beneficiary of the bias towards "data hungry" apps. PalmOne / PalmSource want to keep their wireless carrier friends happy by encouraging apps which use lots of bandwidth. RE: TCPMP?Dr Opinion @ 5/27/2005 4:48:40 PM #
Duh, maybe becuase TCPMP is not *finished* yet? Quote, from their site: "There is currently no stable release for Palm OS." Really, guys???? RE: TCPMP?The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/27/2005 9:42:52 PM #
Duh, maybe becuase TCPMP is not *finished* yet? Quote, from their site: "There is currently no stable release for Palm OS." Really, guys???? In reality, this "beta" is more stable and better than all of the commercial video players currently available for PalmOS. ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: TCPMP?ackmondual @ 5/28/2005 6:31:10 AM #
...... "Best Multimedia Solution: SplashBlog"??? Get serious. Just be grateful that Bejeweled didn't sweep every software (and hardware!) category this year... . LOL! My favorite is still from Handago's own "awards". They had Bejeweled2, some ringtone player for Treos, and Pocket Tunes in the same category... "best software for play". How do you realistically compare a game, a ringtone player, and an mp3/audio player that really belong in their own categories? RE: TCPMP?ackmondual @ 5/28/2005 6:36:31 AM #
........... I think I was going to get it for Shadow Plan a couple years back, but since I wasn't going to PalmSourceDev.. no go. Only folks who attend can get the award, since PS want it to be a good advertising event for the developer involved, which is nice. Theres also a little of the Oscars-approach in it I think as well -- an organization will got some weighting simply because they've done their time and worked hard and never won anythign, so deserve some recognition.
............... . So going by this, our votes are meaningless unless we voted for the right entries? If we vote for non-candidates, nothing happens, while valid candidates get their vote tallied? 
So much good stuffTimothy Rapson @ 5/26/2005 10:32:24 AM #
I like so much of the software out for my Palm. TealPaint WordSmith (needs an update with support for external formats) Resco file and phote viewers MyBible AcidImage VideoHand RE: So much good stuffTimothy Rapson @ 5/26/2005 11:29:33 AM #
OOPs! Video"HOUND" not hand And I might add DiddleBug and NoahPro. And many others. RE: So much good stuffTimothy Rapson @ 5/27/2005 8:37:15 AM #
HEy, I posted a boring comment here and no one responded. What is going on? You mean there have already been a hundred threads like this and 1,000s of responses? So, I need a weird name/title to get a response to a new comment? I will not be ignored. I will go around to your threads and take it up with Kirvin, VOR, Mike, Abosco, Gfunk, and the rest of you punks. Now, you get back here and start calling me names or else. RE: So much good stuffTimothy Rapson @ 5/27/2005 8:41:09 AM #
You are such a pathetic loser, Rapson. RE: So much good stuffTimothy Rapson @ 5/27/2005 8:42:03 AM #
Get a live, will 'ya. No one wants to talk to you, you little twitburger. RE: So much good stuffTimothy Rapson @ 5/27/2005 8:43:49 AM #
That's get a "LIFE", Rapson. And you definitely need to. RE: So much good stuffTimothy Rapson @ 5/27/2005 8:44:56 AM #
I love myself I think I'm grand I go to the movies and hold my hand I put my arm RE: So much good stuffThe_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/27/2005 4:39:19 PM #
You are such a pathetic loser, Timmy. ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: So much good stuff
Best thread I've read here in a while. At least Timothy is staying on topic! IIIxe & 3:16 RE: So much good stuff
Geez, Rapson, didn't you see where I quoted you from BH in another post here? You aren't being ignored. Only your silly topic is.
Nothing else from DevCon?
I heard they demo'd Palm Linux, among other things - Surely that's a little more important than this? 1000->Personal->IRUpgrade->TRGPro->HE330->Treo 180 RE: Nothing else from DevCon? Not much...The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/26/2005 9:39:24 PM #
I heard they demo'd Palm Linux Do you remember the scene in The Wizard of Oz when everyone sees how bogus the wizard's tricks are? That is PalmLinux today. Remember all those wonderful SD peripherals that were demoed a few years back by Panasonic when SD was announced? That is PalmLinux today. PalmLinux will not be fit for human consumption for AT LEAST A YEAR. If ever. At this point, PalmSource needs to cut the vaporware BS and S T F U until they have come up with something that is real, stable, and worthy of the name PalmOS. Developers aren't fools and once bitten (Cobalt), twice shy (PalmLinux). Once people like CESD (DateBk5) get pi$$ed off enough that they port their apps to Windows/PPC, I expect a wave of defections to PPC. And if StyleTap's Platform for Windows Mobile ("STP" - http://www.styletap.com/) gets picked up and promoted by a major company, the point may be moot, anyway. This week's DevCon had the smell of death in the air. I think developers have now lost faith in PalmSource's ability to sustain the platform. Pépé Gassée and the idiots (his former colleagues at CrApple) that approved greasing his Palm with millions for his useless, defunct company (Be) will be remembered as the ones that killed PalmOS. Great legacy, Pépé. Thanks. ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: Nothing else from DevCon? PalmLinux release date:The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/26/2005 11:12:28 PM #
PalmSource claims they'll have PalmLinux ready by early-mid 2006. Yep. 2006. After the Cobalt Catastrophe, it's shocking to see PalmSource pretending they can meet a goal that is technically imossible for them to achieve. With ZERO devices shipping with Cobalt 18 months after that fabled OS was supposedly released, any guesses when consumers will actually see the first REAL, SHIPPING device with PalmLinux installed? How about 2008. In other words, expect to see PalmOS 5 shipping on devices for at least another 2 years. Incredible. Basically means a 2004 Tungsten T3 or CLIE TH55 is as functional a PalmOS PDA as you'll see for the next two or three years. If you want a good investment, buy a bunch of T3 in closeout and then eBay them to desperate users over the next year... ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: Nothing else from DevCon?
I did not attend the DevCon this year, but just got back from the after-event dinner with many of the biggest big name developers in attendance. There was only slightly less buzz in the air than last year. I met a few brand new developers who seemed to be doing quite well, thank you, with their Treo-specific products. Hardly a sign of the imminent death of the Palm economy... In fact, the biggest complaint I heard was that the weak US dollar was hurting European developers revenue. RE: Nothing else from DevCon?Timothy Rapson @ 5/27/2005 8:49:27 AM #
RE: "I expect a wave of defections to PPC." What product for the Palm OS needs to be ported to PPC? Every program I can think of has not only as good a program on the WM. 9 out of 10 have better. RE: Nothing else from DevCon?
Yes, but POS defectors need to their familiar software, with the POS UI/ Look and feel. Its a new niche. Surur RE: Nothing else from DevCon?The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/27/2005 12:58:20 PM #
What product for the Palm OS needs to be ported to PPC? I have a word processor, photo viewer, file viewer, paint program, maps, music, video, most used nearly daily. Every program I can think of has not only as good a program on the WM. 9 out of 10 have better. There are many specialty apps that are coded by either smaller niche companies or hobby coders that have no identical app for PPC. There are probably several examples from the fields of medicine, law, education, real estate, etc. that people could name. More importantly is the comfort level derived from being able to use familiar apps. Many Palm users like the apps they've used for years and don't want to try new software. For example, I've used DateBk3/4/5 for 6 or more years and would prefer to use a monochrome Palm WITH DateBk 5 than a VGA color PPC WITHOUT DateBk5. Are there other good PPC datebook apps available? Of course. But like many people, I prefer to stick with what I already know. Port DateBk5 to PPC and I have one less reason to stick with PalmOS. ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™ Hmmmm....
So, are you selling short this week, Vo'R', or looking to drive the stock down and buy? 1000->Personal->IRUpgrade->TRGPro->HE330->Treo 180 Nevermind - I found a link.
http://www.palmfocus.com/index.php?item=78 Pictures from the presentations, for those of you who want actual news about the platform instead of listening to folks air out their latest revision of the 'They faked the moon landings!' screed. PalmLinux by June 2006? Suuuuuuuuuuure.The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/27/2005 4:04:58 PM #
So, are you selling short this week, Vo'R', or looking to drive the stock down and buy? You crack me up. Really. I have no Palm stock and I'm not delusional enough to think anything I (or anyone else for that matter) post on PIC would be considered important enough to affect Palm's stock price. Thanks for the compliment, though. You like me! You really, really like me! If you were at DevCon or bothered to actually READ the slides from the blog you linked to, you'd see where PalmSource (optimistically) claims to be in their development timeline. Those of us that understand software development know what a crock of sh1t these "forward reaching" statements always are. Believe whomever you choose to believe. Either way, PalmLinux will NOT be shipping mid-2006. ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: Nothing else from DevCon?Dr Opinion @ 5/27/2005 5:01:34 PM #
Voice, you're such a troll. It takes a big man to make predictions that he's not going to be held to. Short the stock, or *shut* up.
Friendly wager: PalmLinux will NOT be on devices July, 2006.The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/27/2005 9:46:07 PM #
It takes a big man to make predictions that he's not going to be held to. Short the stock, or *shut* up. Wow, you're quite impressive there, madam. Is that a strap on? I stand by all of my predictions and they're almost always correct. I don't trade Palm/PalmSource/pa1mOne stock - it's been manipulated so badly by Palm's management it's laughable. I'd suggest you go away and don't come back here until July 1, 2006 and we'll see who's correct. If I'm wrong and PalmSource has PalmLinux on a shipping device, I'll donate $50 to the charity of your choice. If you're wrong, you'll have to bend over and let Mike Cane party upon your a$$. Again. ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: Nothing else from DevCon?ackmondual @ 5/28/2005 6:42:24 AM #
PalmLinux had a demo. Shows some promise, but much work is yet to be done. RE: Nothing else from DevCon?
Pictures from the presentations, for those of you who want actual news about the platform instead of listening to folks air out their latest revision of the 'They faked the moon landings!' screed. Any word on what display layer PalmLinux will use? What toolkit? Anything tangible? Thought not. RE: Nothing else from DevCon?
>>>If you're wrong, you'll have to bend over and let Mike Cane party upon your a$$. Again. Jaysus, will you PLEASE take an OD of *something*? *Anything* so that I'm no longer your nightly wet dream... or "palm pal." RE: Nothing else from DevCon?rcartwright @ 5/28/2005 5:47:54 PM #
VoR said >This week's DevCon had the smell of death in the air. I think developers have now lost faith in PalmSource's ability to sustain the platform.< Did you attend DevCon this year VoR?
RE: Nothing else from DevCon?voice of chaos @ 5/31/2005 2:58:30 PM #
I am a developer of applications for Palm OS, and I was at the devcon. I saw the Palm OS for Linux demo. Yes, they have a way to go. But, I've been involved in porting OS's to various platforms for over 20 years, and I think that the mid-2006 date very achievable, given what they showed us. Was it a safe, canned demo? Yes, but it did show a lot. And given the history of Palm OS it actually puts the OS folks back into their element (namely, Palm OS as a UI and Data layer on top of an existing kernel - then AMX, now Linux). Many developers with whom I spoke came out of the conference enthused about the focus that the companies have and about the opportunities. Between the Palm brand being bought out by palmOne and the renewal of the license agreement there is more optimism for the OS and the than there was before the conference. Look, I'm no pollyanna. If you focus on one platform you darn well better have a fantastic program (like Datebook 5 does), else you should diversify. And hope doesn't mean that it will turn out. It just looks like palmOne and PalmSource are getting their acts together. A viable Palm brand (and a viable Palm OS) does nothing but give us another good alternative. And a Linux-based Palm OS gives us an alternative with a good future (especially in non-US markets). RE: Nothing else from DevCon?The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/31/2005 4:30:16 PM #
Did you attend DevCon this year VoR?
Briefly. And unlike that second rate, imitation "Voice" posting above, I feel the PalmLinux demo glossed over a he11 of a lot of work that has yet to be done. The devil is in the details. And the proof is in the pudding. (The proof of the pudding is in the eating.) PalmLinux will NOT be available for a LOOOOONG time. ------------------------ ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™
You want DevCon news? Here it is
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Executive Interview: Michael Kelley and John Cook of PalmSource This installment in LinuxDevices.com's "Executive Interview" series explores PalmSource's plans with respect to morphing Palm OS into a middleware and application stack that runs on top of Linux, with an aim of targeting mobile phones and other wireless-enabled devices. While visiting the company's annual developers conference in San Jose this week, we sat down with PalmSource VP of Engineering Mike Kelley and Director of Product Marketing John Cook to discuss PalmSource's Linux strategy and plans. Here's what we learned . . . http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT6402459179.html =================== Q6: PalmSource has said it will focus on the Asian market, and mobile phones. When can we expect to see Linux-powered phones (or PDAs) in Asia that can run Palm applications? How about in the US? A6. Cook -- We have to be kind of careful about what we say about that. We got badly burned last year in discussions behind the scenes with licensees about their enthusiasm. [. . .] =================== Would these be the Infamous Nagel Eleven?
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