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Consilient Technologies has announced support for the Treo 650 from palmOne. Smartphone users can now access complete wireless push email functionality using Consilient Mobile Mail.
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Advantage over Versamail

Sholey @ 6/8/2005 12:26:38 AM # Q
Why is this better than Versamail?
I know this is a push email but can configure Versamail to check every 5 min if you want?
RE: Advantage over Versamail
justauser @ 6/8/2005 7:13:43 AM # Q
I agree - I'm happy enough to manually force email checks when I'm on the go. But push email has been attributed to the recent success of RIM's BlackBerries. Seems a lot of people want this.

Palm is still not in the game with Outlook
benamy @ 6/8/2005 8:53:42 AM # Q
This is far short of Microsoft's new plans of pushing Exchange and Outlook through the already existing servers with a new software patch for Mobile 5.0.

Plus, how about the remote erasing feature that allows stolen or lost devices to be remotely erased to prevent information theft.



RE: Advantage over Versamail
DevPOV @ 6/8/2005 12:01:45 PM # Q
Push Email reminds me of the old pager days in that your employer gets to keep you tethered 24/7. I'd rather not have it when I'm out and about, and just check my mail when I feel like it. Less disruptive to me.

That being said, it seems that MS's solution is more well thought out for the needs of the corporation with its integration and security features. Besides, for any company using exchange server, the MS solution is a no-brainer.

RE: Advantage over Versamail
ocspub @ 6/8/2005 12:39:58 PM # Q
> Plus, how about the remote erasing feature that allows
> stolen or lost devices to be remotely erased to
> prevent information theft.

Yeah, how about it. Maybe take a look at mSafe from MotionApps.

http://www.motionapps.com/products.jsp?msafe

(no, I am not affiliated with them, and haven't even tried it on my Treo yet)

Oliver


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Does anyone at Palm have a plan?
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 6/8/2005 4:38:10 PM # Q
Yeah, how about it. Maybe take a look at mSafe from MotionApps.

Suuuure. An integrated all-Microsoft solution Vs. a 3rd party app from a minor league developer. Which option do you think will appeal to most companies?

When the Palm rep was demoing mSafe at the recent DevCon, I kept wondering "Why the he11 isn't this a standard part of the Treo's security system?" Palm needs to start acting like a company that's prepared to COMPETE with Microsoft, feature for feature. Expecting 3rd party developers to kludge together fixes to Palm's deficient designs and then expecting users to pay extra money for the "fixes" is truly insane.

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RE: Advantage over Versamail
benamy @ 6/8/2005 11:48:03 PM # Q
Listen to the Voice of Reason. He knows what he is talking about.

I agree completely with your observations of Microsofts complete solution verses Palm's hobbled together incomplete disjointed excuses.

The earlier post from Oliver with the link reference to the Remote Treo disabler was a good find. But the general public sure should not have to be as knowledgable as Oliver. It should be a no brain to everyone.

Ben


RE: Advantage over Versamail
justauser @ 6/11/2005 2:43:30 AM # Q
Benamy wrote:
"This is far short of Microsoft's new plans"

http://tinyurl.com/82pyx
Sounds like the MS attempt is far short of push email...

RE: Advantage over Versamail
justauser @ 6/13/2005 8:08:59 PM # Q
And the hits keep coming; http://tinyurl.com/c9ta8 Sounds like PPC push email isn't secure either.

Back to your caves trolls. Face it, the PPC so called 'push' (with a bit of pull) email is just blowing smoke.

RE: Advantage over Versamail
Surur @ 6/13/2005 8:37:45 PM # Q
Face it, whatever you are Gartner says, MS's push e-mail will slowly (or rapidly) bubble up and overtake the existing solutions. You know it will happen.

Remember, its FREE.

Surur

RE: Advantage over Versamail
justauser @ 6/13/2005 11:54:19 PM # Q
Cheerleading aside – When it comes to push email, this is not a competition of PPC vrs Palm. This is a competition of PPC/Palm vrs RIM. So far as I can tell from the offerings last week, RIM wins another round.

If PPC or Palm actually got push email right, do you think this will actually impact on RIM's market share? I think people who want a glorified pager will still go for Blackberry. Too many other factors involved with PDA purchase.

As for me, I'm happy with Versamail or whatever does the job while I'm on the go - I don't need immediate notification.

RE: Advantage over Versamail
Surur @ 6/14/2005 4:07:32 AM # Q
I was just listening to an Engadget Podcast of an interview with the Windows Mobile and Embedded Manager. He emphasised that the advantage of WM vs Blackberry is that there is no additional fee for each user you make mobile (after buying the device of course). There is not extra licensing fee, you don't have to consider terribly hard whether the ROI will be worth it. Currently mainly the executives get these devices, with a much cheaper devices many more plebes will be getting it too.

It will be a bottom up solution, but in the end it will only be the less competent who will have "pure-play" e-mail solutions, everyone else will have a more fully features WM device.

Surur

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