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Palm 10 year anniversaryPalmInfocenter wishes Palm a happy 10 year anniversary! The first Palm OS PDA, the Pilot 1000, was released ten years ago this month.

Read on for a look at some mash-up images of Palm devices from the past 10 years. Also checkout a chart of major milestones along Palm's timeline from the first block of balsa wood to the LifeDrive and Treo.

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I wonder...

Be3G @ 3/26/2006 6:58:32 PM # Q
...might a 10th anniversary be an apt time to release something new and big? (*ahem* http://www.brighthand.com/article/Hawkins_Mentions_Palm-s_Third_Business_Again *ahem*)

Thomas

RE: I wonder...
PenguinPowered @ 3/26/2006 7:19:37 PM # Q
too late. origami is already out


May You Live in Interesting Times

RE: I wonder...
Ryan @ 3/26/2006 7:41:19 PM # Q
would be nice, but the quote in that article is from last august:

http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/7999/hawkins-palm-has-secret-third-business/

RE: I wonder...
Simony @ 3/26/2006 11:49:32 PM # Q
... don't these guys release that they are doomed. They should declare bankruptcy and get it over with.

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Thread on forums

legodude522 @ 3/26/2006 11:38:44 PM # Q
Was posted sometime last week on forums.

http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30443

Palm m125 > Palm Zire 71 > Tapwave Zodiac 1 > Palm Zire 72 > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000
So long Palm OS.

RE: Thread on forums
meeksomebody @ 3/27/2006 2:49:05 AM # Q
I just wanna know... which weird treo did they piece together?

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Future of Palm

Kenika007 @ 3/27/2006 3:00:23 AM # Q
What dou you think about Palm, especially PalmOs Future? I live in the Czech Republic and the power of Palm is weaker and weaker. New Palm products with palm os are very unstable with czech localitaziton and I see a big migration to WM machines.

Do you see the same in US, or is there a still power among palm os users and palm with palm os has not said the last word?

Thanks

RE: Future of Palm
EricsProjects @ 3/31/2006 3:14:29 PM # Q
It's about the same in the US. They've made some seriously bad business moves...

-Eric

HP 620lx (WinCE) -> Palm IIIxe -> m505 -> who_knows_what

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Palm needs a radical new direction

adamsmark @ 3/27/2006 12:06:10 PM # Q
I was looking at a video iPod, 60 gigabytes over the weekend. Apple sells a 4 gigabyte flash-memory based Nano. That got me thinking. Why does my Treo have a bare 32 megabytes? Ten years ago, the dream PDA was just that. Now, where the hell is it? Is it truly impossible to create a PDA with the following:

1. Massive storage capacity
2. MP3 player
3. Phone
4. PDA
5. Camera (3+ megapixels)
6. Video
7. Secure Wallet
8. GPS
9. Bluetooth and Wifi
10. Voice recorder and other essential functional features.

As I was looking at the very compact video iPod, all I could think is, why can't anyone make a PDA that does it all?

I've been an avid Palm user since 1999 (Palm V and Vx--a truly beautiful PDA), but apart from the Treo, I have not purchased a PDA since the T3. I thought about the T5, LifeDrive and TX, but none of those would be a step up from the T3. I figure Palm could have gotten me for one or two more PDAs (yes, I'd carry the Treo and a second Palm--unless they produced a smartphone with a large screen).

Again, ten years ago, this would be just a dream. Today, it should be a reality.

Er... happy anniversary palm.

RE: Palm needs a radical new direction
Surur @ 3/27/2006 12:39:26 PM # Q

The HTC Muse will everything on your list except GPS. The Loox T830 will have everything on your list except massive storage.

HTC muse Specs:

Windows Mobile 5.0 (for Pocket PC)
Triband 3.5G (GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA TBD)
240 by 240 (65k color)
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Infra-Red
64MB RAM, 64MB RAM
4GB NAND Flash Memory + Micro SD Slot
FM Radio, Dual Stereophonic Speaker
416Mhz Processor
2.1 Megapixels Camera with Flash, VGA Camera (front)
TV-Out, USB 2.0
The HTC Muse is expected for release in 2nd Quarter of 2006. Prices not currently available.

http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/htc-muse-is-coming-134776.php
http://news.mobile9.com/2005/11/htc-muse

Loox T830 specs:

Intel PXA270 416 MHz processor
64MB RAM, 128MB ROM
GSM (900/1800/1900MHz) and UMTS (2100MHz) support
integrated GPS (SiRF GCS3F)
802.11b/g Wi-Fi
Bluetooth 2.0, a 2-megapixel auto-focus camera
video telephony uses VGA - 640 x 480)
QWERTY keyboard (with a 5-way D-pad
3-way jog dial, and 2 application buttons)
2.4" 240 x 240 65K-colour square-screen TFT-LCD
1500mAh Li-Ion battery
an SDIO/SD/MMC slot
USB 2.0 (host and slave)
Windows Mobile 5.0
http://www.mobilitysite.com/2006/02/fujitsusiemens_pocket_loox_t830.php
You could slip a 4GB SD card (<$200) and have your massive storage also.

Looking at Palm for technical innovation and pushing the envelope is a waste of time.

Surur

They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...

RE: Palm needs a radical new direction
cervezas @ 3/27/2006 1:10:50 PM # Q
Looking at Palm for technical innovation and pushing the envelope is a waste of time.

... as is waiting for US carriers to sell devices like the HTC Muse and Loox T830. On this side of the pond it seems like when you push the envelope the envelope just pushes right back.


David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
Software Everywhere blog
www.pikesoft.com/blog

RE: Palm needs a radical new direction
Surur @ 3/27/2006 1:48:57 PM # Q

I dont think thats still completely true. The T-mobile SDA made it over with WIFI intact. The smallest qwerty smartphone, the Moto Q, is coming to Verizon first. The axis of innovation seems to be shifting some.

Surur

They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...

RE: Palm needs a radical new direction
hkklife @ 3/27/2006 2:25:23 PM # Q
No, the carriers will always find a way to cripple their phones/handsets.

Want a SD (mini, micro, whatever) slot? Fine but it's crippled with an impossibly maddening DRM scheme/check-in & check-out process ala Sony's ATRAC.

Want a high megapixel camera? Fine but it won't let you pull images off of the SD card. You have to use the "PixPlace" or whatever service offered your carrier to send images at 25 cents a pop.

Want Bluetooth? Sure, but it's gimped beyond belief on everything to be anything more than a glorified (and still underwhelming) headset protocol. OBEX, DUN, A2DP are all MIA or neutered left & right on *THIS* side of the pond.

Want POS? Fine but you'll have to switch carriers to get it or use the ancient old Treo 650. Verizon doesn't like POS and Sprint still has yet to officially confirm the availability of the 700p. What if a final POS Treo is released and no carriers pick it up? Didn't a similar situation just happen with a BenQ's PPC smartphone?

T-Mobile's not even available within 300 miles of where I am sitting currently. The Moto Q will likely be handicapped by some Verizon-imposed shackle. Moving their smartphones to the same miserable universal UI used by their cell phones is likely Verizon's next step.

In the USA the Verizon/Sprint/Cingular envelope doesn't "push" back as much as it actually bites you and gives you two hands full of paper cuts.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX

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Just 10 years?

onestar @ 3/27/2006 9:25:04 PM # Q
Jeez, seems like it's been longer.

Still, I wouldn't change the past 10 years for anything.
I love ya, baby.

:)

One by one, the penguins are stealing my sanity.

RE: Just 10 years?
adamsmark @ 3/28/2006 4:29:28 PM # Q
Agreed. I'm a dedicated Treo user... but I do think I could do more with more. That's what I want.

It is remarkable how changed their devices are, though. As much as I loved the Palm Vx, wow, it sure is an inferior machine today.

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Happy b-day Palm or PalmSource/Access?

Scott R @ 3/27/2006 9:27:03 PM # Q
Should we be saying happy birthday to Palm or to PalmSource/Access? Shouldn't the owner of the Palm _OS_ be the birthday boy?

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RE: Happy b-day Palm or PalmSource/Access?
dkirker @ 3/28/2006 7:14:25 PM # Q
No. Palm originally owned the PalmOS. Then they split to Palm SG (Palm Solutions Group, I remember them, that was about the time I got in) and PalmSource (the OS guys). Then Palm SG acquired Handspring and formed palmOne, and then you probably know the story.

So initialy it was Palm Computing, Inc. (back when the IIIc was released, and shortly after became Palm, Inc., I believe) that created the Pilot 1000 Organizer, so Happy Birthday to them (Palm, Inc. that is).

RE: Happy b-day Palm or PalmSource/Access?
Scott R @ 3/29/2006 8:27:21 PM # Q
Yeah, I know the whole history. My point was simply that everyone's making a big to-do about "Palm's" birthday, but what made Palm successful was the Palm OS combined with the original Pilot formfactor. Today, Palm is touting a me-too WM Treo as their "latest and greatest" just as they hit their 10th birthday. Sad.

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